Peter Pan & Wendy - Disney Murders Fairies (It Does! It Does!)

In Peter Pan and Wendy, Disney has managed to suck all the magic out of an old classic, giving us instead a bland, grey, soulless - and sometimes embarrassing - mess.
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[@TheLittlePlatoon]

This isn't the best version of this video (you can find that on my Twitter @PlatoonPod) - but it is the version that cleared appeal. It should have been out almost two weeks ago, but was delayed by the most ridiculous copyright nonsense I've ever encountered on this platform.

[@idaniluz652]

How many attempts did it taje you to upload this video?

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

@@idaniluz652 Around 50. None of them worked. It blocked 4 second clips, it blocked two three second clips because it thought they were the same clip, it was just impossible to use *any* footage at all. So this is the early version I appealed last week.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@TheLittlePlatoon 50? Congrats on the steel resolve to try and try again

[@johnjohnson9073]

Seems like the big studios have been getting real defensive. Another youtuber I watch spent like 3 weeks trying to clear copyright claims on his video reviewing a decades old failed franchise owned by Universal

[@dmgsuperiortraining9443]

I so desperately would like to get my voice out there with you guys but to see the trouble you, justsomeguy, clipped coin, themoviecynic, itsagundam and more go through... it's discouraging to say the least. Thank you for your efforts, and although your videos may be 'late' they are nevertheless timely

[@eddstarr2185]

I was 9 years old in 1968 when my best friend said, "real childhood is magical because it is so brief - Peter Pan's childhood that never ends is a trap, where he never becomes human".

[@alsmith9853]

Very perceptive

[@Britti_Kitti]

That's deep and strangely philosophical. Love that

[@Yatukih_001]

Peter Pan is the precursor to the coronavirus situation, the belief that a pandemic never ends unless the CNN says it ends. I feel very sorry for Peter Pan´s mental condition, and also for Hook´s mental condition.

[@Melina_Evarblume_Seelie]

I'm going to have to doubt that an (assumed) 9 year old has that much understanding of the value of childhood to a developing person without even finishing said childhood. If you aren't completely bullshitting though, that's cool. It's a smart take but it reads as a "my 6yo just said this about the socio-economic crisis" facebook mom who definitely just puts her own takes in a quote type post.

[@user-uw1do5yr4n]

@@Melina_Evarblume_Seelie kids can be really smart, smarter and more perceptive than adults, especially back then

[@thesardonicpig3835]

The attempt to give Hook a "tragic backstory" is misguided in an ironic way, since technically, he's already got one in the book. Although his origins are mostly played for comedy, there is a layer of actual tragedy just underneath, as with all of Barrie's writing. Moreover, Hook's backstory is actually relevant to the book's overall themes of adulthood, regret and lost opportunities. Hook went to a famous public school (probably Eton), so his childhood was probably defined by discipline, pressure and traditionalism. His decision to become a pirate is a radical attempt to escape the stifling world of his youth, seeking freedom through chaos. Unfortunately for him, he is too late. The values of his childhood are by now so deeply ingrained in him that they suffocate him even as an adult (hence his pathetic obsession with "good form"). His pirate career is also an act of self-denial. Hook is actually a hypersensitive aesthete with a passion for art and beauty. He's very emotionally responsive and desperate for human connection and intellectual discourse, none of which he can have with his brutish pirates. If Hook had been free to choose, he would probably have become a philosopher or a gardener, not a pirate. In his mannerisms, he switches back and forth between ruthless, calculating adult and frightened, gullible child (the animated film surprisingly captures that perfectly). But besides being very funny, it could also be a result of his restrictive upbringing - he's neither a fully realised adult nor a fully realised child. Enter Peter Pan. The reason why Hook is obsessed with him is not just the casual dismemberment of his arm, although that's definitely the catalyst. It's his "cockiness." Peter is the child Hook could never be, living the freedom Hook will never know - a living mockery of Hook's existence. Feeding his hand to the crocodile just adds insult to injury: what is dead earnest for Hook is just a game to Peter. Peter takes nothing seriously, not even his arch-nemesis. In Hook's final moments, that becomes clear in a way that's almost painful to read. Peter basically wears Hook down to exhaustion while laughing at him. Not because he's cruel - but because he can't comprehend the weight of the situation. In the end, Hook just wants to die. His final thoughts are of his childhood, but this time, he finds himself longing for the order and tradition he sought to escape. Peter Pan has become a monster to him, an embodiment of the chaos he's been trying for as a pirate - but which he now finally realises is not in his nature. With all that said, I think the idea of Hook as a former Lost Boy is actually great - just because it's not book-loyal doesn't mean it's worthless - and it could have been used to support the story's themes. But of course that's not possible if the themes are not there in the first place.

[@Beedo_Sookcool]

Pffft. Since when have Disney EVER cared about the original source material, mate? If they went by the original stories, for example: The Prince wouldn't kiss Snow White to wake her up, but merely try to take her glass coffin back to his castle so she wouldn't be left out in the woods. One of the servants carrying the coffin stumbles on a root, which dislodges the bite of poison apple from her throat, and she wakes up on her own. Pinocchio would get annoyed and kill the talking cricket, who later haunts the puppet as a ghost, and Pinocchio later gets hanged. Kaa the python would be a hero who helped rescue Mowgli from the monkey city, and later helped mentor the boy. The Little Mermaid would refuse to take the murder escape-clause in the sea-witch's contract, so she would die and turn into sea-foam, then roam the Earth as a spirit for 300 years to develop a soul and go to Heaven. And finally, let us not forget, Walt and his cronies hounded P. L. Travers for the rights to "Mary Poppins," but she didn't want to sell the rights because she was afraid they'd screw it up. In the end, after years of badgering, she finally gave in, sold the rights, Disney screwed it up just like she feared, and she spent the rest of her life criticising Walt and his company for it. And THEN they waited until after she died so she couldn't defend herself, and made a smear movie called "Saving Mr. Banks," where kindly old Uncle Walt (who loves absolutely everybody), played by kindly old Tom Hanks, kindly and gently talks a shrill, stubborn, emotionally-damaged, hysterical Travers into selling him the rights to "Mary Poppins," so he can simply bring joy to the children of the world. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 Even the Disney "Originals" screw up the stories, and the remakes just make things worse.

[@gorgon2385]

gosh, i love hearing from people who understand and think about the stories they consume! Really great insights, makes me want to go watch Hook for the millionth time

[@moresnacksplease526]

Wow, thank you for that. I never read the book, so that’s very enlightening. Thank you!

[@BWMagus]

@@Beedo_Sookcool Eh, alot of the older Disney movies based on folktales really needed to be changed. Because here's the thing; while stories are older than dirt, the art of telling stories varies from place to place and time to time. Alot of our old folktales are superstitious nonsense from illiterate European peasants, collected by the brothers Grimm and others--interesting IDEAS, but the stories are typically primitive as hell and would be boring as shit as movies. Also, what's appropriate for children in the 1900's is quite different from several hundred years prior, where scaring the shit out of your kids so they stay the fuck out of the woods was probably a good idea, even if it resulted in yet more superstitious twaddle and the regular ritualistic murder of single women (the witch trials and inquisitions of Germany were far worse than the paradoxically more famous ones in Spain). Although the changes to the Jungle Book were pretty extreme, to the point of barely getting anything right. Kipling's work was not some primitive claptrap from dirt farmers and didn't need that treatment; I swear they already had a movie with dancing monkeys and just needed a name to slap onto it.

[@Edmar_Fecler]

Magnificently put, young sir/madam

[@Manawolfman]

I find it so weird how writers seem to have forgotten that the "mama bear" trope exists. That a girl can be badass but also feminine and protective like a mother at the same time. It's almost insulting.

[@Gothic_Analogue]

They can’t push their trite non-creativity if they acknowledge mama bears like Sarah Connor, Beverley Crusher, and the Mama of all Mama Bears Lt. Ellen Ripley.

[@flyingfish7787]

“Being a mother” is a sexist act to modern woke Hollywood.

[@pubcle]

Femininity? That's sexist! There's ONLY good female character has physical strength and is a rude, soulless person with negative male-related traits framed as good and no positive masculinity or femininity at all.

[@Cheezitnator]

It is insulting. That women have to act like men to be a girl boss. That they have to throw away all their femininity to be a good lead is harmful and bad to show to kids.

[@lawlietriver8869]

Hey! The feminine half of humanity cannot be feminine you fucking bigoted piece of shit. Woman are men and men are retards! THAT IS THE ONLY WAY!

[@SugarFreeGaming]

Disney went from "lived happily ever after" To "died alone and no one ever loved them" 😂

[@anshsharma4131]

Only thing missing was 24 cats and 30 wine bottles.😂

[@sarahouillette1357]

​​@@anshsharma4131 with the cats ready to devour her decomposing corpse

[@cardboardcutout]

@@sarahouillette1357because she hasn’t fed them in weeks

[@dannyknightblade4592]

It's disturbing that Disney thinks that dying alone and unfulfilled in life is somehow a happy ending.

[@CliffSedge-nu5fv]

​@@dannyknightblade4592 It's the happiest most of us can hope for.

[@Datura981]

As a woman born in the 80's, what's most sad to me is the loss of diversity and unique nature of female heroines or characters. She-Ra, Xena, and Storm were no-nonsense, mature, bad-ass warriors, but they weren't what you would call 'maternal'. They were beautiful but their powerful natures made them aloof, unattainable, almost ethereal. Beverly Crusher, Ellen Ripley, and Sarah Connor were every-day, working-class women that balanced duty and femininity, and rarely looked pristine doing so. Each of them repeatedly made critical choices between responsibility to the whole and care for the individual, and being mothers was circumstantial to their behavior, not because they were mothers. Rainbow Brite, Strawberry Shortcake, and many of the early Disney princesses won battles through charm, cunning, grace, and care for others. They defeated evil and did battle using influence, not weapons. They were poised and fair, sometimes naive or childish but always kind, and that often bred loyalty from others to win the day. Their adorable or beautiful natures weren't an effect of their kindness, but an augmentation to their charming personalities. Their foes were illustrations of how ugly hatred made people; how pointless and harmful jealousy is. Aeon Flux, Emma Frost, and Selina Kyle were shade-of-gray femme fatales, sometimes heroes and sometimes villains, who had no issue using power, manipulation, or sexuality to get what they wanted. Unapologetic, conniving, manipulative, dangerous, and singularly focused women who saw vulnerability as weakness. Uhura, Scully, and Princess Leia happened to be women. Being a woman wasn't a defining feature; their duties and missions were always far more important. Their personal lives were barely a footnote, and we knew very little about them outside of what we'd see of them in their present. Who they were to the people around them was almost always an extension of the positions of office, authority, or respect that they held. Lucy Ricardo, Sailor Moon (both Usagi and Minako), Starfire, Jubilee, Kelly Bundy, Buffy Summers, and more than half the roles Marilyn Monroe played, were clumsy and ditzy that had a secret cleverness to them that wasn't always evident to those around them. They were often underestimated because of their general manner, but they often solved their problems with an efficient simplicity that escaped most of the other characters, and even ourselves as the audience. Each had an intense hobby and interest, usually to the point of having surprisingly expert skill in or knowledge about. Even the 1953 animated Wendy could fit into this... she was a bit slow on the uptake, there were many jokes made at her expense, but ultimately we realize she's actually quite insightful and empathetic, which is a totally other kind of intelligence. But yeah, it's an honor for all women to be boiled down to 'GIRLBOSS SLAY!' 😞

[@jaceyking5015]

I'm so tired of the girl boss trope that every time I see a woman on screen my stomach starts to hurt. It shouldn't be like that. But it is.

[@RogerS1978]

It is like they have never spent time around real adults or conflict. An intelligent person uses their strengths to win, it hurts me a lot less having a woman break her hand punching me, than influencing a huge guy to do it. Although, like most guys, I'd prefer the guy as hurting a woman is unthinkable.

[@delivererofdarknessshoguno1133]

​@@jaceyking5015 yeah, whenever I hear "female empowerment) or something like that I just cringe. And I wouldn't react like this before all this nonsense.

[@shayla106]

Xena was very maternal when it came to her own kids.

[@vinsinsanity]

A lot of writers want to write a "strong female character" but don't understand that "strong" doesn't always mean physical strength.

[@fionnaitsradag5152]

I found Wendy's "happy thoughts" of the future (a vision of herself dying old and alone; presumably because she didn't want to be a mother) to be unintentionally hilarious. They might as well have added some bottles of wine and 2 dozen cats around her bed.

[@samcochran8203]

As soon as I saw that scene my mind went screaming to, "OLD! ALONE! DONE FOR!"

[@fionnaitsradag5152]

@@samcochran8203 That's what I thought of too!

[@rowantic6539]

2003 hook: old , alone done for is a nightmare. 2023 Wendy : this is the dream 😂

[@DangerZone200]

i thought the writers made wendy amelia earhart which would be hilarious since she died in her prime trying to fly over the atlantic ocean and instead ended up crashing into the ocean in a horrible plane crash......im assuming the writers were too stupid in her history to realise she disappeared

[@samcochran8203]

@@DangerZone200 the writers are too stupid for many things, thinking being one of them

[@spykkielee7627]

"This POWER belongs to no BOY" is such a weirdly possessive thing to say... Peter does have the power of flight, even if he's not the only one who can use it. They could have just said "magic doesn't belong to anyone" instead. Not only would it have made a lot more sense but it would have given magic back some of its mystery which makes it so fascinating to children.

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

Definitely. I think it’d still have missed the point, that being Peter as representative of magic and imagination (and so, in part, the embodiment of Neverland), but at least it’d have made more sense and been less exclusionary and cringe.

[@niashq]

I think it was meant to be more of a cool moment like Eowyn’s “I am no man” line in the LOTR movie, of her owning being a lost girl sort of, but well. We all know this remake was a mess script wise. Lately all Disney does is dish out terribly written lazy scripts.

[@reharl4953]

Because every pile of garbage Disney vomits out now adays has to be boiled down to "MALES SUCK, SLAY GIRLBOSS SLAY". Years of lazy Western entitled feminism has led us to this.

[@jacksamson1239]

​@@niashq Na I would have to disagree with that due to the reason Eowyn said "I am no man" is not only to reaffirm to herself and the audience how far she's despite the preconceived notions of being a woman but to also tell the Witch King who " could not be killed by no man" that he's fucked and the one thing that was seen as a disadvantage is the reason she'll win where no one has before. Wendy however has literally no reason to bring up she's a girl or that there's an issue with not being a boy.

[@Clownacy]

"The Force is female"

[@brainthebrian3690]

Hook: You have the boys magic? Wendy: No this magic belongs to no _boy._ 😏 Hook:😑 Hook's crew:😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑 The fish in the ocean:😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑 Tinker bell now on Hooks side: 😑 Hook: It was a simple question, my dude

[@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954]

The fish part made me laugh

[@TheRoflcer]

A Mermaid: "Hey I wrote you a song, it goes like this! [Strums Guitar] Fuck you!"

[@Hexensohn]

"You have the boy's magic." "This magic belongs to no boy!" Hi, welcome to Disney, we have cringe bottled and on tap.

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

“Do you take your cringe neat or on the rocks?”

[@felicity1877]

ahem., it's actually right, as Peter Pan uses fairy dust, but I hate how it seems so aggressive...

[@RobotsEverywhereVideos]

"You have the boy's base." "All your base are belong to us!" (I'm old, so sue me)

[@Hexensohn]

@@felicity1877 it's definitely the set up and delivery more than anything else.

[@stevenkeeffe9137]

@@RobotsEverywhereVideos "Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional." - another old guy who appreciates your comment

[@shanehudson3995]

Can't possibly understand why Tinkerbell isn't portrayed as a violent little psychopath in this. 🤔

[@jcdf2]

immature children are quite psychopathic.

[@skychieftain]

Because it's a woman of color portraying her 😂

[@anib8863]

@@skychieftain You ever notice how sometimes by changing a characters race people accidentally make them a negative stereotype? (i. e. making the agressive bitchy fairy black)

[@skychieftain]

@@anib8863 that's because the writers prioritise the skin color over the character

[@egbertmilton4003]

@@zogwort1522 No, it wasn't cute, you really don't know what you were talking about. It was an immense personal flaw that was hilarious some times and provided threatening tension other times. Her being a sociopath was entertaining, not cute.

[@artrosear]

It's really tragic how being a mother, a natural and beautiful thing, has been demonized by many people.

[@memequeen7352]

It's strange because I don't want to be a mother, because I don't think I would be a good mother. I am now 31 years old and have seen many friends and family my age become parents. While I do not think it is for me, I have so much respect and admiration for women who are so bold as to become mothers. Why is it being portrayed as something pitiful??

[@memememe609]

​@@zogwort1522 It's mainly the lack of freedom. Our current societal standard is that of hedonism. Being able to do what you want, when you want, all essentially leading to a more authoritarian take on anarchism. Most modern writers, left-wing as they are, have long since forgone the idea that putting effort into a goal for the long term ends up being more satisfying than immediate pleasure. Hence, motherhood is seen as inherently evil due to restricting women's ability to do whatever they want. "My body, my choice". Quite ironically, Peter Pan is a perfect representation of these people. The writers are right in that females CAN be just as immature and irreverent as males, especially if society rewards them for being such. Modern left-leaning fellows are essentially part of the Lost Boys, never wanting to grow up while missing the joys of a proper adulthood.

[@memememe609]

@@zogwort1522 "All mothers regret having children" Utter bullshit, I'm afraid. BAD mothers regret having children. Narcissistic individuals who regret enriching their lives at the cost of actually having to bother putting in effort. My mother certainly did not regret having me a single second. And one only justifies his life choices if he's insecure enough not to understand how he got there, and if it isn't the right path, how to fix things or change his mentality. But yes, this movie is awful.

[@shayla106]

@@zogwort1522 Stop projecting.

[@trustmeits610pm2]

@@zogwort1522 What a gray and unpleasant world you live in. Glad I'm not wherever it is you are.

[@-Kuro.]

The part where Hook says "Peter.. I haven't got any" could have been so powerful, especially with the right kind of music. Yet they cut to silence which almost felt comical. I just can't wrap my head around that.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Wendy interrupting the moment too is extra salt on the wound

[@kevinarnold8634]

Cutting to silence can be impactful if the character is seen as reflecting on what just happened, or in the case of Peter Pan to be on the verge of doing so. Perhaps if Wendy had not interrupted Peter's thoughts at that moment he would have crossed over than threshold of reflection, which in itself could have initiated transition toward maturity. It is somewhat reminiscent of moments of compelled silence in real life, where those present are expected to use that pause for reflection on whatever the matter at that time is.

[@mattjindrak]

Cause sad old people are funny lmao

[@CommentPositionInformer]

@@kevinarnold8634 But cutting to silence requires the proper setup and camera work to be impactful. A simple panning shot of Hook falling isn't enough. You could add some slowing, make other sounds muted and distant, focus on the expressions of both people involved, add focus play to reflex the emotional distress for Peter, almost as if he is struggling to perceive reality because of the shock in his system.

[@aronthedev3074]

Peter and Wendy on the '03 version also had great chemistry. Here, the writing doesn't allow it, rather focusing on making Wendy a "girl boss" than developing any character.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Added bonus is putting Clocks by Coldplay into the trailer. 2 wins there!

[@akashajones6079]

I don't understand the term 'girl boss'. Like what is the equivalent for a boy? I feel like there isn't one because the term is applied based on standards only used on female characters.

[@Embrace-The-Dork-Side]

@@akashajones6079 When a male character displays the traits of a girlboss they call it toxic masculinity. Forcing one's decisions on others. Solving problems with violence. Doing everything oneself, not accepting help or advice from others (especially those of the opposite sex). Belittling other characters (intentionally or otherwise) to prop up oneself. The list goes on. Essentially everything a male character would be criticized for, female characters are praised for, nowadays. The term "girlboss" is mostly used to mock this double standard.

[@tomsmith6513]

@@akashajones6079 alpha boy . . . an alpha male, but one who is a boy

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Considering the casting, if there was chemistry, someone is seriously ill.

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

Peter Pan is a classic Coming of Age story. Captain Hook afraid of the symbol of time, Wendy going on an adventure right before a maturity benchmark, etc. By misunderstanding this, it's clear how immature the writers, directors, and company are, and how much they have to grow up. I dearly hope that this isn't emblematic of the modern age, but I fear it is.

[@vladpiranha]

Disney's 1953 film, and the 2003 version, were made by people who understood the source material. They even observed stage tradition of having the same actor play both Mr. Darling and Captain Hook - very symbolically important and completely over the head of the knuckle-dragging cretins responsible for this version.

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

The strange thing is that there are one or two moments where the film gives a knowing reference to its source, in a way that seems to say “we’re doing something different this time.” But never once do you ever get the sense it knew what that difference really was.

[@tjroelsma]

Your last sentence captures what modern scriptwriting has devolved to, as modern scripts can be summarized in one sentence: wahmen are not only better than men; they are perfect, so they can't have any flaws and therefore can't have any character development.

[@kyotheman69]

no they did it on purpose, these days its all about "the message" Disney has fallen what happens when you hire activists in your company

[@WackaMei]

You know it. Spielberg got this right in Hook too, a perfect sequel and homage to the original book IMO. Why couldn't Disney have gone with the Spielberg approach if they wanted to show a "progression"?

[@sophietemple2728]

The idea that motherhood is not something women should aspire to, for women and children alike, makes me so sad I can’t really put it in to words.

[@CliffSedge-nu5fv]

Mothers resenting themselves and children resenting their mothers is good for business. Now there is more to sell to them.

[@JM-vp8zc]

6:14 “Try reading a book.” Nailed it. I think so many of these writers suck because they’ve not read too many books.

[@CodeBroRob]

they read online fan fictions intead

[@deliciouskromer4578]

@@CodeBroRobI’ve seen fan fics way better than the kind of crap writing live-action movies give us

[@Slla-th5vt]

What do you expect when the most imaginative books the entire generation of kids have read are Harry Potters. Don't get me wrong. Harry Potters books are good, but hardly the most imaginative around.

[@pubcle]

That's part of it, but another is that none of these authors grew up themselves. They are eternal children, millennials who never grew up. Most of the writing is all about the moment rather than any sort of cohesive idea. There's never a relationship, just measures of status. There's never delayed gratification, just instantaneous gratification. It's also self-gratifying, it's all about ego rather than actually wanting to say something meaningful.

[@JM-vp8zc]

@@pubcle Got an old friend who writes and teaches creative writing for a living, and he says this is a huge issue for his students

[@TheMovieCynic]

This video better get a million views because of all that copyright BS.

[@arks_knights]

Its amazing how disney put so much effort defending their mistakes and saying F**K OFF to its very fans, and wonder why they are losing money

[@theredranger9723]

YOU better get a million views… Oh snap

[@petriew2018]

i think i'll start a few comment wars just to get the shills we know are incoming a reason to keep refreshing.... because the fun part of that is the delicious irony of it all.

[@damienruzco]

Oddly optimistic for someone of your…persuasion

[@atom_gray]

It says a lot about a dying empire, doesn't it?

[@vladpiranha]

There's a terrible irony here. Michael Eisner was pushed out of his position as CEO back in 2005 as part of the "Save Disney" campaign spearheaded by Roy Disney Jr. Roy believed his family's legacy was being lost as the Walt Disney Company became more interested in business than the art of storytelling and family entertainment. The final straw was when Eisner pushed for all of the tasteless direct-to-video sequels we all remember from the late 1990s and early 2000s (Pocahontas 2: Journey to a New World, Cinderella 2 and 3, The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea, etc). When Bob Iger took over, he was supposed to fix Disney. Instead, he's doing the exact same thing, but with live action remakes.

[@sarahb.7175]

At least Cinderella 3 was a fun, entertaining, original story that a little me loved!

[@Attmay]

They wanted the entire board of directors gone.

[@moresnacksplease526]

Iger also had Pixar to breathe fresh life into the studio, but then they spent the last 2 decades purging that place of creativity and stocking it with Yes-People, so no help there. Maybe ‘Elemental’ will make a billion dollars(snort).

[@matane2465]

Except even if you think the DTV movies were bad they still took more creativity and effort than any of the garbage that's been made in the Iger Era. I'll take the DTV movies over the live action remakes.

[@markopusic8258]

​@@matane2465 And that's a really sad thing to say because the majority of those were... Not particularly great, with a few even being absolute garbage.

[@Fiasco3]

"As Artists, we've re-imagined and re-created the story for a modern day audience." everytime you hear these words you know whatever media they are working on is woke and doomed.

[@sebastianrubin7476]

The problem, I think, is they never do this with old stories which have been largely forgotten or fallen out of fashion. They keep doing it with timeless stories, which entirely defeats the entire charm of said stories being _timeless._

[@TheCriticalDrinker]

Excellent breakdown

[@John-Doe-Yo]

Truly

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

Why thank you very much! I did try and say “f- off, film” in your style but I think all of Scotland would’ve tried to kill me had that made the cut.

[@elizabethanthony3916]

​@@TheLittlePlatoon😆👏👏👏👏

[@Fred-gu6pk]

​​​@@TheLittlePlatoonNaff orf you abominable moving picture. I don't have the right accent to spell it.

[@osmanyousif7849]

What gets on my nerve is that if Disney was all about "diversity" they should have taken notes from the Pixie Hollow series, where they had Iridessa (Black) and Silvermist (Asian). But the main reason these two stood out is that they were given defining personalities, that nobody cared what their ethnicity or race was. And that's what the studio and creators are ignoring: Stop giving your female characters a girlfriend or race and start giving them a personality.

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

You forgot Fauna (Latina)

[@rokamayono8590]

I LOVED that series back then! I think my favorite was Fauna!

[@KL9702.]

They were written by John Lasseter, founder of Pixar, (who was fired for giving people hugs), that's what made them amazing. All of the best people are long gone.

[@egbertmilton4003]

@@KL9702. First off, John was never a founder of Pixar, the founders were Edwin Catmull and Alvy Ray Smith, so clearly you don't have any idea about the inner workings of Pixar. Second, those hugs you claim he was fired for were actually grabbing, kissing and making comments about physical attributes to point that Pixar has people who were deigned to keep John in check. He ruined it with his own desire to sexually assault staff. Third, he only helped write one of the Pixie Hollow stories, Jeffrey M. Howard wrote the first, third and fifth one, Evan Spiliotopoulos wrote the second, Bradley Raymond also wrote the third one, Bobs Gannaway, Peggy Holmes, Ryan Rowe and Tom Rogers were writing the 4th, John only wrote on the fifth film with Peggy Holmes, Bobs Gannaway, Jeffrey M. Howard, Lorna Cook and Craig Gerber, so clearly he wasn't vital to the spirit of the one movie in this series that he had any writing in. The sixth was written by Steve Loter and Tom Rogers. The fact you actually think the best people are gone just because John failed to control his vices is an embarrassment.

[@elizabethlevesque6978]

I can’t remember her name off the top of my head but the pixie hollow books also had a prominent disabled character who was a valued and important member of the community. She was a water fairy, she lost her wings in an accident I think? Point is though, she was a beloved character because her presence wasn’t just to be a mouthpiece or an example of like “see how society treats marginalized/disabled people?” She was a fully realized character. I also think when writing the books they probably said to themselves “well we have this society of fairies, which obviously fly. What would happen with one who COULDN’T? How would that change their outlook, how would their society adapt? How can they use their talents in innovative ways to compensate for their lack of wings?” Care was taken when creating the world and creating the character. It wasn’t just slapping a bunch of stuff together and hoping it stuck.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

Above all else the butchering of Tinkerbell is the most surprising. This is Disney, Tinkerbell was not only their iconic mascot for over 50 years or so. She also spawned a pretty successful movie series. At least far as direct to video Disney films go. This destruction of her character hurts both images they have been using for marketing for decades.

[@GotoMaki4Micah]

so weird how blacks think having her black is a good thing. they made her void of any character. i feel bad for the actress and her talking about all the silent films she was inspired by because it sounds promising. she can be animated but the script gives her no interesting story, personality or character arc. i think parents dont want their kids to see others behaving badly onscreen because they think it will make their child act out. peter who was the ''villain'' was not actually shown being villainous at all. but even tho peter failed as a villain i still wanted hook to get his revenge because i relate it to when a man would throw acid on a woman's face for rejecting him. pan can eff right off. you can not just say im sorry i maimed you. we good?

[@FoulPet]

​@Lydia deetz they should be upset they can't create a decent new character of color.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

@@FoulPet True, most "new" characters lean way too heavily into stero types to really be enjoyed by any one. Never mind the fact they can't have any flaws or it's an insult to the characters race/gender/etc. Thus leaving us with very bland characters.

[@austinreed7343]

Given what they did to Jimminy Cricket… Mickey is probably next.

[@Agaricus_cuscus]

@@GotoMaki4Micah Wait POC thought having tinkerbell black was a good thing? i would say most POC people either don't care or are annoyed by swapping colours of skin for estabilashed characters. As you say, they just want new stories with good POC characters.

[@Sancyria]

Also, did Wendy even talk to her brothers about growing up and going back to real world? Imagine going to an epic adventure with Peter Pan and then your sister just deciteds "okay partys over, were going home now."

[@pendragon0905]

Not like in the 2003 version; There, Wendy had a little fight with Peter, and she had the talk with John, Michael, and even the Lost Boys, reminding them of the lives amd families they would be leaving behind forever by staying in Neverland.

[@johnnykopp7304]

Well in the ‘53 animated film, Wendy makes the choice to go home and take her brothers with her, simply because she was jealous of the attention Peter was giving to TigerLilly. Ironically, TinkerBell almost got Peter killed in his own hideout because of her jealousy of Wendy.

[@lou9635]

@@johnnykopp7304 No, don't you remember the boys' reaction? When she says they can't stay because they need their parents, the boys answer she can be their mother. She tells them that she can't be a mother, they ask why. Then she explains what is a mother in a sweet song and the youngest brother cries and says he wants his mom back. The rest of the boys joins him and says they want to have a mother too and leave Neverland. That's why they are adopted at the end of the movie. The brothers and the lost boys want as much as Wendy to go back. But in the remake, they forced so much Wendy as THE girlboss that her brothers are irrelevant and don't have any opinion on the subject.

[@MaztRPwn]

I’m glad everyone online has come together to not take garbage like Velma, new Disney garbage, Forspoken, etc.

[@bohd3]

I enjoyed the 50’s film the most because it’s the only adaptation I think got Peters inhumanity correct. He is described as a boy and that’s basically it. His behavior seems more like an elf with a fairy girlfriend than an actual human boy.

[@Attmay]

If they had waited to do it after the 1950s, they never could’ve gotten away with it.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

I always figured him to be a prankster and troublemaker.

[@darthdaddy3071]

I always thought he was supposed to be rather like Puck in A Midsommer Night's Dream.

[@pittland44]

@@darthdaddy3071 I think there's a definite element of Puck to Peter, great observation.

[@darthdaddy3071]

@@pittland44 Peter could very plausibly be Fae. He's definitely a force of nature, the embodiment of boyhood and mischief.

[@thecornerkid402]

My best friend was an English major and Hook is one of his all time favorite movies so he wrote his final thesis on Peter Pan and its history. It’s common knowledge that Spielberg does not like Hook very much. He’s never been happy with how it turned out. While researching that paper, my friend found an obscure interview with Spielberg back in the 90’s where someone asked what happened with Hook. Paraphrasing, but he said he started out very excited about the movie. He’d always loved Peter Pan, it was one of his favorite stories, he had all kinds of ideas for Neverland, the cast was amazing, the script was good, it had everything going for it, but he said while they were filming, something happened. He became a father. And Neverland changes and becomes kind of horrifying when you become a parent. Halfway through filming, his entire outlook on the story changed and became much darker. It’s why there’s so many tonal shifts between scenes. Halfway through making it, Spielberg started to hate Neverland.

[@MALICEM12]

Imagine if he finished it before

[@jacksmith7726]

Doesn't he have daddy issues ? I think people say his films changed again once he had contact with his father

[@xk445g]

@@MALICEM12 OR started it after.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Yea, imagine that. Neverland is a wonderful story, until you live it.

[@cheshirecat882]

Yet Hook still has a much better understanding of the core concepts of Peter Pan and fleshes out toxicity in both adulthood and childhood. I believe it is most on point when Peter realizes he has no happy thoughts until he remembers he left neverland and childhood to have a family. The reboot has no deeper point or thought behind anything it does.

[@truesoulghost2777]

That line where Wendy says, Something something, this magic belongs to no boy! It really reminds me of, I am all the Jedi. Lmao

[@truepractitioner]

I love this analysis. You are spot on. The entire story is based on the differences between boys and girls. Erasing or ignoring those differences makes it impossible to establish any significant relationships between the characters. Also, what idiot thought it was a good idea to have Wendy slap Peter Pan like that. So domestic violence is part of girl empowerment at age 12? This is like Disney films that make people think they can hand feed bears.

[@riotd.r.8363]

Considering Neverland is notorious for making you forget, Hook and Peter not remembering their origin stories or why they started fighting could actually make most sense.

[@BWMagus]

That would be an interesting and tragic story.

[@GotoMaki4Micah]

maybe it only makes you forget you past memories on earth? i do remember a reference of peter temporarily forgetting wendy and even the lost boys but they dont forget him. is that why peter was mia when they got shot down and separated because that seems awfully convenient and proof pan is one mindless twerp who needs to be beaten like a red headed step child. he says oh wendy youre still alive? wtf? he brought her there to be the kids mom, yet he forgets or neglects her so soon? i just can't even. the croc should have eaten them all.

[@pittland44]

In the hands of competent writers, there's loads of story telling potential there. Like they know that they should know each other, but they can't remember where they know one another from. It could all be very tragic and bittersweet, but that would require a real understanding of those types of things.

[@poopjeans1135]

Captain Hook doesn't remember his origin because Disney added him, not the author. Peter Pan is supposed to be the Villain of the story. You don't live forever in neverland. It is explained in the original books that Peter killed or banished children that grew up. The pirates are LITERALLY lost boys that Peter turned on.

[@petriew2018]

this version of Peter Pan is strangely poignant, i think, but not for the reasons anyone at Disney can understand. Originally it's a story about the crossroads between childhood and adulthood.... and now it's just a dark parody of how no one in modern hollywood knows what adulthood even is.

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

I like that idea but I think we can both agree that there is no way they would pick up on that.

[@blackosprey2219]

Thing is, telling a story that ruminates on what it means to grow up is totally antithetical to Disney's current brand. They make buckets of cash off of adults who never outgrow them. Their remake factory depends on adults who want to feel like kids again by recycling their childhood with a more adult-acceptable aesthetic. Anything more complicated or emotionally fraught than "generational angst/trauma" is now completely off the table because it's easier to resolve a problem that can just be Talked Out than grapple with an immutable law of reality that is melancholic but also necessary and good in many ways. But no, they could never do that, because that eternal childhood fantasy is exactly what Disney wants you to indulge in. That's why this adaptation shears off a lot of the elements that build up that theme and replace it with "girls can be as cool as boys!"

[@secretchefcollective444]

I don't think they know what childhood should be either.

[@kevinarnold8634]

@@blackosprey2219 Their remake factory doesn't so depend. An adult wanting to feel like a child again would focus on those Disney movies from when they were children, which for a good number of them is the animated classics from the past. Their live-action movies don't capitalize on that, but instead do their best to distance from it. They are essentially made to please their makers with the hope the Disney name will make them profitable regardless. The displeasure this invokes in their audience is become increasingly clear at that trend continues. Eventually that audience will crumble altogether if they persist, not just in these live-action remakes but in all their product lines where they so indulge.

[@blackosprey2219]

@Kevin Arnold look at any promo material for the high profile "remakes" and you'll find adult influencers soying out over stuff they recognize. "DUDE IT'S PRIDE ROCK" These movies wouldn't make stupid money if they were fully new stories told just as badly.

[@ApostlicNinjaGirl]

The 2003 version with Jeremy Sumpter is far and away the best version of this story ever put to screen. Aside from some odd special effects here and there (a product of its time) it so gorgeous and magical, and perfectly captures Peter Pan’s world and his character. Jeremy does such a magnificent job playing him, and the story is told so wonderfully. I’ll just stick to that version if I want a live action Peter Pan, thanks.

[@elknspire]

For me too ! It's the only live action of Peter Pan I'll ever really enjoy and love. Jeremy was the perfect casting, watching this version made him my childhood crush. I'll stick to this version too!

[@RobotsEverywhereVideos]

The music in the 2003 film is insanely good.

[@Pain-And-Gain]

Not to mention the sweetness of Rachel Hurd-Wood, when I wan a kid I had a crush on her xD

[@anubusx]

Hook will always be my favourite.

[@gelchert]

It’s also the closest any movie’s gotten to getting Hook right (other than maybe _Hook,_ appropriately enough). He’s not an overdressed cowardly buffoon like the Disney cartoon and Broadway musical, nor a common criminal who was in the right place at the right time like in the _Neverland_ miniseries. He’s a cultured, intelligent, and charismatic man - who’s also vicious enough to kill as many children and fairies as it takes to get to Peter.

[@kidcthulhufortney1320]

Wow, not only have you pointed out everything wrong with the remake, you've made me completely reappraise the '53 version. There was so much going on with the original that went over my head as a kid.

[@cherylz6569]

One thing I noticed is that they didn't have the same actor play both Mr. Darling and Hook like they did in the animated and 2003 version. There was an interesting dynamic there and they totally missed it.

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

I think that was a tradition in the plays, too, designed to highlight Hook’s representation of adulthood and parallels with the father in the child’s imagination. I don’t know why they wouldn’t have kept up that tradition, other than that they simply weren’t aware of it and didn’t understand it.

[@JCSalomon]

​@@TheLittlePlatoon , it was a tradition in the plays out of necessity-two roles that demanded good acting but which never appeared on-stage together. Not in Barrie’s stage directions, for example. (Sorta like the “tradition” of Peter being played by a woman.)

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

@@JCSalomon I think I’d describe the former as out of convenience more than necessity. Unlike the example of Peter being played by a woman (laws governing child actors, general incompetence of child actors), casting the same man to play George and Hook is a tradition that transcends the medium (and the restrictions of the medium). It’s undoubtedly cheaper, but it also says something about the nature of the parts, making it an artistic as well as a mechanical choice.

[@JCSalomon]

@@TheLittlePlatoon yes, “convenience” is more correct.

[@PoisonousPen]

In the stage play it’s always the same actor. In the 1953 animated version, they used the same voice actor for both. Pp&w missed the mark AGAIN it seems 🤦‍♂️

[@shaoronmd]

"but you're not all boys.... but i guess it doesn't really matter" "this magic belongs to no boy!" every time I hear these 2 lines and their delivery makes me cringe. it's as a masterful line as Batwoman "It will be (the perfect suit) when it fits a woman."

[@GotoMaki4Micah]

i cant stand the "So?" the attitude. the insolence. the loudness.

[@atlas956]

if it doesn’t matter, WHY POINT IT OUT, writers? Wendy, as the “character” in this version, has no reason to even NOTICE that she is the only girl, because this Wendy doesn’t give a crap and girlhood or being the only girl is not a real theme for this Wendy at all. it’s all just growing up.

[@elizabethanthony3916]

Absolutely agree, far too much of that " man hate" in films these days, makes me 🤢, as soon as i hear that dross from a female character, I'm jolted from the story and just switch it off. I think I've watched episode one of most Netflix and Disney series and gone no further, in case I get so angry, I pop a vessel . 😁👍👏👏👏👏

[@Nikita-zo4gp]

@@elizabethanthony3916 to me it's the portrayal of female characters alone that is starting to annoy me. in this adaption, wendy seems taken out of some quite important concept. tinker bell is not allowed to be a nasty nordic elf-creature anymore? and tiger lilly... won't, I won't go into it. peter pan is the epitome of the syndrome named after him. From what I see in scenes showed here, he has... lost his childish superiority, his nonchalant, curious attitudes and lighthearted self-esteem? and has become a rather depressing dimwit? won't watch.

[@robertagren9360]

The whole peter pan is boys who don't grow up

[@eyjay1508]

32:50 I had never realized the metaphor with the ticking clock and the adult antagonist running from death, that's incredible.

[@treesurgeon2441]

That's the secret of the film Platoon. It turns out Wendy is the actual Peter pan of this movie. She envisions her dazzling potential and never once shows herself having anything that matters and quietly dies alone.

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

Peter: "Think happy thoughts." Hook: "Peter... I haven't got any." I am reasonably convinced, given the script's quality and what passes for humorous speech in this film, that the writers inserted that quip thinking it was a gag. Otherwise, I would've suspected more discussion on Hook's trauma and psychological damage. If I'm correct, props to Jude Law for turning an off key joke into the emotional line that it ought to have been, saving the scene in the process.

[@thesardonicpig3835]

I actually think it's a great moment. Funnily enough, it might be partially ripped off the 2003 film, in which Hook temporarily succeeds at flying, but can't stay airborne because he has no happy thoughts. It's played mostly for comedy as his attempts at "happy thoughts" are all absurd. But there's a tragic moment of recognition, shortly before he falls to the crocodile, that his life is actually meaningless and not worth living - after which he decides to take his death with dignity. The moment works thematically and Isaacs plays it brilliantly. It's a shame _this_ film's version of that moment went to waste.

[@breevans5219]

I didn't like the film but I didnt realize that was supposed to come off as a joke. I legit felt bad for Hook when he said that because it's Peter's fault he turned out the way he did by exiling him for a pretty standard reason. I miss when bad guys were bad for the sake of being bad and didn't have all these intricate tragic backstories because this movie made our "hero" out to be a total prick and the "villain" a sympathetic character.

[@heiranima4534]

@@breevans5219 You know, I don't think I'd have minded this twist if it had Peter dwelling on this, reflecting on his actions, and being forced to grow up quickly, like most children who've gone through a traumatic event have to in order to cope with it. Have it really mean something, have it where it weighs on him, and the eternal boy is made to work this out like an adult. Is it a good hook? Probably not, but it would be SOMETHING. Having them move past it is....well, it's like every other Disney movie these days, I suppose. It's just wasted potential.

[@natperXD]

Not gonna lie, under good writers, this could idea work. For example, Hook thinks that killing Peter is a happy thought since his whole goal is to kill him and is obsessed with it. However, it doesn't work because the feeling is more akin to finally solving a problem that took hours. Or how in the first Avengers movie where after they saved the world from the aliens, they felt more relieved rather than happy since the pressure is finally gone. So while it is a happy thought, it isn't a real happy thought if you know what I mean.

[@BWMagus]

But didn't he have happy thoughts while in Neverland, playing with Peter? It's sort of strange that he has NONE.

[@hueghh3775]

It's incredible. They never fail to butcher old media. No matter how airtight the setup, or how established the universe and storyline, they always manage to somehow make it infinitely worse than I could imagine.

[@hughmcgown]

I think a lot of people miss the potential reason for this though. For example were I to ask my niece if she would like to watch 53 Pan she would say no, because the message the remakes are sending is "everything that came before was a mistake, everything was toxic, this version is more pc" then they make the new version garbage and forgetable which puts a nail in the coffin of people rewatching the original, if new version is superior and new version is garbage, old version must be worse and harmful. It muddies the waters while cashing in on the memory of what was, in that way it makes sense why they are doing this, it's a definite agenda to destroy old values and brainwash the current generation. The only people that can identify this are those that grew up on the originals and the majority of them just think "oh lame another remake" without wondering further why they would do this.

[@hughmcgown]

I should also add the other message they send in modern cinema is "new is better" so when they make a remake the younger generations claim it as their own and see the older version as inferior because all past is mistakes all modern is fixing mistakes, disney plus sends this message repeatedly too censoring old media further discouraging people exposing their kids to it.

[@BWMagus]

@@hughmcgown There is some of that. But there's a middle ground between "grand conspiracy" and "gosh, what a weird coincidence that it happened for the 48th time."

[@HelloKolla]

Screenshotting this comment. Well put, sir.

[@r3dr4te963]

Like other commenter mentioned in @sardonicpig385 comment mention, Disney already change the original story to be somewhat safer for mass public and have happy endings; "Disneyfication". Now they further ruin the older Disney version, and make them more unrecognizable.

[@sleekemu356]

03 Hook's happy thoughts: Killing, choking, lawyers, dentists, puppies blood, children's blood 23 Hook's happy thoughts: I haven't got any 03 Hook's happy thoughts are just hilarious yet fitting for him

[@augustina3657]

What a beautiful person Little Platoon is. As a woman it was actually really hard for me to accept femininity and being a woman. It felt so thankless, uninteresting and unimportant to do women's work and play women's roles but stories like Peter Pan, Howls Moving Castle and Cinderella remind me its a subtler sort of thing that matters an awful lot. It may be underappreciated and thankless sometimes but its still so very needed and being motherly is a role no one else can really play. I'm kinda a cynical shrew but I'm working on it.

[@bigduke2140]

Glad you are working on trying to be a decent human being, but have you apologised to all the men you were a shrew to? Or are you just another attention whore whose sex appeal has gone and needs a new thing for attention?

[@thelaughingrouge]

The original tale is so steeped in subtleties and metaphor that there was *ZERO* chance a modern screenwriter was gonna do it justice. And I use the term screenwriter in the loosest of all possible senses.

[@loveyallyangu]

Current Disney writer's distain for motherhood is so narcissistic and ungrateful. People seem to treat it like slave work or a prison, stealing away all freedom and God forbid, giving women responsibilities that can restrict their flexibility and lifestyle. Refusing to listen to women who ARE mothers, many of which insist motherhood is the most amazing and important thing that's ever happened to them. Obviously not every woman had to be a mother..... but god damn, show some respect for those who have taken on this important job.

[@BWMagus]

Not unusual. Look at how they ignore the massive number of women who oppose abortion. I'm not even on that side of the debate, but the refusal to acknowledge them all is just indicative of how self-absorbed they are--they literally can't imagine someone disagreeing with them who isn't part of the "wrong" group.

[@pascalsimioli6777]

I do not agree with anything disney produces nowadays but have you ever met parents? They shit ONE clone into the world and somehow think they're owed everything. Skipping lines, discounts, arriving last at the aircraft before a flight and why? Because they're doing such an important job? News flash: the world is overpopulated as it is, we don't need anymore humans for a while. Their important job is futile and a sign of their narcissism if anything.

[@elizabethscott7904]

Yeah, no. Not everyone wants kids.

[@loveyallyangu]

@@pascalsimioli6777 the majority of people in my life are parents or grandparents, it's a decent sized community of people who love their kids, who don't lord their parenthood over the rest of us without kids, and maybe there's one person out of that couple hundred I can imagine acting like this. The small subset of truly entitled and, we'll go back to narcissistic, parents, does not represent the whole. In fact I'd argue more people than ever assume this stuff about the majority of parents because of social media, the way algorithms boost the annoying behaviors of people. Don't make the mistake of substituting in the odd stranger acting crazily online, to the dozens and hundreds of people you meet face to face. And if all the parents in your own life act like the way you are describing, I promise there are communities out there that don't encourage this type of arrogance.

[@jaceyking5015]

@@elizabethscott7904 That's not the point of the comment. Of course not everyone wants kids or should have them, but parenthood and especially motherhood is being so demonized by modern media despite it being a perfectly natural part of life.

[@chrismatteson1312]

You are a wordsmith. Multiple times during any video that your voice is a part of, I will stop rewind, listen again to the way you tie words together. I’m impressed every time. I’m not even 5 minutes into this video and I’ve felt this way more than once. A storyteller so good that I’m taken out of the story you’re telling, but in the best way possible. Just wanted to say that I appreciate you and the time you spend making content for people like me. I wish anyone working today had an equal level of talent and passion for your craft. I fully expect to learn your real name one day in the credits of a film that I actually truly enjoy. Until then, I thank you for your time making these videos.

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

Well now I’m blushing! That’s far too kind, but I thank you for it.

[@chrismatteson1312]

@@TheLittlePlatoon I find it appropriate. I have more excitement for the content you produce than I do for the films you speak about. Despite the quality of modern movies, I mean that as a compliment.

[@chrismatteson1312]

@@TheLittlePlatoon And you’re welcome.

[@darklord884]

I remember watching the 2003 version and being awed by it. The shift of view on the pirates Wendy names during the storytime scene to her aunt, going from cool storybook heroes at the start to vicious villains in the middle to tired and jaded soldiers with dreams in the end. Plus Jason Isaacs's spine-tingling portrayal as Hook. Simply gorgeous. "Yes, Hook...Hook flies!" *slams Peter into the sails, throws cutlass up for no reason but to be cool* "And he LIKES it!"

[@subkris]

I loved the 2003 movie. It was my childhood film.

[@gelchert]

“Old…alone…done for.” And the implication that Hook actually let the crocodile eat him rather than having to face that reality.

[@darklord884]

@@gelchert As a kid I was chanting along with them, but looking back, that scene is actually terrifying.

[@gelchert]

@@darklord884 As a kid, you laugh at how gory Hook's "happy thoughts" are. As an adult, you realize you're watching someone come to grips with his mortality in the most painful way imaginable.

[@darklord884]

@@gelchert Slowly realising how he basically has nothing "good" to live for and even his joy to make him fly earlier was just the sadistic glee of making Peter suffer. The horrific end to a terrible man but still sad in its own way. The newest one just doesn't have this. Well it doesn't have anything, but it lacks this quality too.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

With great wokeness comes great irresponsibility.

[@johns.1854]

And great brokeness

[@deandrenicholas2545]

​​@@johns.1854 That's a fundamentally stupid statement. Then again, the wokeness comment to begin with was fucking stupid. Disney is still making obscene amounts of money to shovel those bullshit out. They are as far from broke as a thing can be. But it got a few likes. Someone appreciated that dumb ass statement.

[@sirensong237]

Define “woke”

[@johnstrife7]

​@@sirensong237 delusional and mentally ill people that wants to ruin everything and anything

[@carolynrois]

@@sirensong237 Diversity for the sake of being seen as diverse and not actually giving the characters...well....character.

[@Bahador.B]

Drop them likes already boys (and girls). Help our boy not be in the KZbin shadow ban section.

[@logansmith3278]

Amen

[@johns.1854]

Did you just assume Little Platoon’s gender?? You bigot!

[@curleyqreviews9793]

I only have one to spare. Is that enough?

[@Shineinpoverty]

"Drop them likes boys. Wait a minute, girls dropped them too. So???"

[@benstanfill363]

I loved the film "hook" it was such a great follow up. Teaching that just because you're grown up doesn't mean you can't have fun or be silly, and to remember where you came from. Man do I wish they made more movies that followed up stories like that more instead of remaking and butchering the originals.

[@jaden_bricker]

That would take clever thinking

[@RobotsEverywhereVideos]

Hook was great but it's one of those movies that could only have been made with Robin Williams in it.

[@titheproven954]

@@RobotsEverywhereVideos I mean that is SO hard to say. Robin made every role he is cast in HIS regardless of the script. You hire the guy b/c you want to stick the camera on him and say GO. You film around him and for him. You are not making the same movie if he isn't in it. But say you get a really talented drama actor for Peter in Hook, like say Tom Cruise (we have to pick a guy would be late 30s in the 90's). You would have a really good movie with the same script. Stay with me here, Hook has a rather dark under tone to the movie, a dramatic and serious undercurrent that while Williams does well with them, an actor who could do more serious scenes would highlight tonally different parts of the movie. Tom can do the more light and comedic acting (he has done it) but not as well as Robin can. As a side note I think Robert Downing Jr. might have a good spin as well, but l digress. I think it would be interesting to SEE that movie, but it isn't the way I WANT the movie.

[@alpyki2588]

The problem is for every Hook we get at least one Return to Oz (good cult film but a box office disappointment), and then we also get (especially in this current climate) character assassinations no one asked for. They can't even write a basic cartoon character from 2010 good, what makes anyone think they'd write something good enough for a sequel to Peter Pan?

[@titheproven954]

@@alpyki2588 Eh I have always been of the opinion bad movies don't ruin past good movies. Shrek 1 and 2 are still good despite 3 & 4 the others. Then you Get Puss in Boots 2 which is one of the best family movies in years. When the first was just mid...Let stuff role and hope for the best. You just have to say what you don't like and then hope they learn.

[@christiansjolander86]

Hook was a new approach to Peter Pan, but performed so damn well it became the "new" Peter Pan. Its almost impossible to think of Peter Pan without mentioning Hook. But the cast was next to flawless.

[@jaceyking5015]

Hook is honestly brilliant.

[@TetsuRiken]

What is Neverland without Hook afterall

[@silverscorpio24]

Every time I hear OG Peter Pan's voice I'm reminded of how Disney treated Bobby Driscoll.

[@TheAntlionGuard]

It's disgusting how they made fun of him in chip & dale or whatever

[@Beedo_Sookcool]

@@TheAntlionGuard Cripes, they've written books about all of Disney's shady practices. My favourite is still "Team Rodent: How Disney Devours the World" by Carl Hiaasen.

[@MegaSpideyman]

@@TheAntlionGuard Yeah, it's just messed up that they would actually do that, especially releasing it.

[@mattjindrak]

All the world is shit and nothing is good

[@hellyzenthedestroyer2783]

oh shi...almost forgot about that....truly tragic

[@KirstenMarie_MS3]

The line, "This magic belongs to no boy" rather baffles me. Usually that sort of trope has been set up beforehand with vague foreshadowing or something. You usually see the girl or whichever character getting the out group treatment, only to come in clutch at the climax. And the pay off isn't "girl does it better." It's we're stronger together and can accomplish more by embracing our differences.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

The foreshadowing isn't in the story itself but in the knowledge you're watching a 2023 Disney remake. All girls are girl bosses so Wendy will end up saving the day because "girls do it better". According to a lot entertainment I see nowadays the best a girl or woman can ever hope to be is someone who just does things boys and men have already been doing for years.

[@APsychicMonkey]

​@@BiggieTrismegistus These hack writers have no idea how patronizing their "women are the best at everything" message is.

[@kevinarnold8634]

In this case the magic seems to belong to fairies, or at least requires their dust. It may indeed belong to no boy if fairies in the setting are exclusively female.

[@cyborgmonday4817]

I don't know about this version, but in the Disney Fairies canon, there were male fairies called sparrowmen. One of the main cast was actually a sparrowman who worked to make and distribute fairy dust.

[@atlas956]

“Tiger Lily talks to Wendy about not-romance and they mutually benefit from the exchange” could have actually worked well… I mean, how about they come up with a plan together to solve a conflict with the pirates? talk about growing up and how they feel pressured to become someone they aren’t sure they want to be? Wendy could ask her about Peter’s weird, erratic behaviour, and Tiger Lily could fill her in on how he’s always been like that (maybe with a throwaway line about how she used to have a crush on him but moved on because he can’t reciprocate). Wendy could ask her about literally ANYTHING related to life in Neverland and her people, and then realize she wants to see the world outside her sheltered english life, anything. It could have worked, and carried new themes an all. But no, either girls are lovesick or they say “yes bitch slay”

[@rotema1]

Barrie had an unloving mother, another reason why the "mother" part is so important and totally missed in this movie

[@micaelasparrow650]

Excellent insight as always. Disappointing the current demonization of women and girls wanting to be mothers robs Wendy of one of her best moments, where she reduces an entire gang of blood thirsty pirates to tears with one song about motherhood.

[@Chris-th5fl]

I love how you describe the nuance of the story and all the important messaging of the animated movie that the new film lacks. Disney really needs to hire people who actually like these stories and not feel they could change everything to make it better.

[@kathleenhensley5951]

Mr. Platoon and Critical Drinker could save Hollywood if they asked them for advice. Both have great ideas and understand how to compose story and character.

[@secretchefcollective444]

@@kathleenhensley5951 If you missed it the Drinker is already gonna slay Hollywood via Kickstarter :) But I do agree.

[@Dravianpn02]

​@@kathleenhensley5951 I disagree about Drinker though. He hardly ever focuses on films from before the year 2000. Which contain the greatest films that will ever be made. He only reviews whats the most popular in pop culture.

[@NightRainPanda]

Peter Pan 2003 will always be the one I love most. It's just whimsical, tells a wonderful version of the story, a legendary Captain Hook, and I do believe in fairies. Honestly, when I saw the trailers for this film I was just disappointed they made Captain Hook's hair STRAIGHT???

[@gelchert]

“I do believe in fairies! I do! I do!” I didn’t think anyone could pull that scene off on film, but the 2003 movie hit it out of the park.

[@NightRainPanda]

@@gelchert My favourite scene as a child by far.

[@JazzedJuniper]

Seriously they couldn’t give the actor a blowout? It looks so flat. I know it’s probably a more realistic pirate hair but hooks hair feels a little iconic

[@NightRainPanda]

@@JazzedJuniper Like BRO CAPTAIN HOOK IS SUPPOSED TO BE A QUEERCODED ICON. He's one of the most queercoded villains ever, and one of the only ones where DISNEY'S original is the LEAST queercoded. Hook, 2003, etc. Every Hook has been queercoded to an extent and it feels like an important part of the character now.

[@kevangunn7163]

Being an old fart, I find it sad that Wendy physically assaulting Peter is passed off as reasonable. I'm sure if Peter had retaliated questions may have been asked,

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

If you can do a story that’s been done before, put your own spin on it, and tell the story in a unique way like Guillermo Del Toro with his Pinocchio, then by all means do so. Is it a flawless movie? No. But it has heart, effort and unique attention to detail. You can feel the 15 years that went into making it. But if all you’re going to do is lazily remake it with no charm, magic, or passion like the latest live action remake of Pinocchio and this, don’t expect us to give you any sort of praise.

[@juma8126]

If you're looking for a dark retelling of "Peter Pan" a'la del Toro, I'd recomend Regis Loisel's comic. It's pretty grim and morbid at times, but definately worth a read.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

@@juma8126 That sounds really awesome. :)

[@Dravianpn02]

​@@juma8126 Gaiman's snow white is awesome also.

[@juma8126]

@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 Yup. The man knows what he's doing. My personal favourite of his is "In search of the Bird of time". Loisel really knows how to make a plot twist.

[@juma8126]

@@Dravianpn02 Yeees. I like this one too. Gaiman is great too.

[@loveyallyangu]

Love the 2003 Peter Pan version, so lively and faithful to the story.

[@FTChomp9980]

Universal Studios made a better Live Action Peter Pan then Peter Pan and Wendy! It is still the best one.

[@zenocrate4040]

Me too, and now that I'm in those twilight years of my mid-30s I can conclude that it is one of very few films I seem to become fonder of as the years pass.

[@paolabetancourt3365]

I just watch it a couple of days ago. I love it just as much as the first time I saw it

[@ireneb.9975]

It was one of my favorite movies as a child and I can’t wait to show it to my son when he is a little older. The acting, the narrating, and the beautiful set and special effects were something so special

[@silverscorpio24]

"You offend reason sir." I still want that on a shirt.

[@twilightsquire]

Disney's 1953 movie was so important to my younger self, it was the magic I needed when I was struggling so much adjusting to moving into secondary school and never truly fitting in with anyone around me. It was and still is my little comfort movie, the escapism and I get and the message of finding balance between being grown up but never losing your childhood resonated with me. I haven't watched the remake, I don't feel like I need to, my connection to this story is to the 1953 movie (though there's some other non Disney Peter Pan movies I like) I have already seen the Disney version I don't need to see them do it again especially after I saw how bad they butchered Pinocchio. 😬

[@MajorSmurf]

Captain Hook screaming for Mr Smee while being chasing by one of the most charismatic crocodiles ever created is just by itself a scene I could watch on repeat. Hollywood writers seem totally blind to universal messages. Every culture can understand the concept of having to grow up expect of course Hollywood writers who somehow manage to live in a bubble in the 21st century. I can understand wanting to update the Native Americans from the OG however out right removing them just removes an entire layer to the story. From what I remember of the OG the children were very interested in the other culture and wanting to join in. Hell the lost boys would play with them constantly usually by kidnapping Tiger Lily. I've also mentioned this before but Disney need to watch that Mermaid scene in the OG animated Peter Pan and understand the nature of that scene. The mermaids wanted to play with Wendy by drowning her. You also have the Mermaids asking for a story and Peter remarks about the time he cut off Hooks hand. It's one of the those moments that set a slight darker tone of the story. The way the Mermaids don't even recognise that drowning someone is a bad thing to do shows just how terrifying Neverland is as everything is a game. Also the Mermaid VA at the end of that scene is amazingly well done.

[@paintingdragons1828]

This also goes along with what baggageclaim said about tinkerbell. She and the mermaids are not real they are fantasies of women. They are beautiful,vain, and jealous. Shallow reflections of real people

[@dah3071]

an easy fix, hook missed his mom and so pan kicked him out thinking he was being ungrateful for what he gave him in neverland, more lost boys are gathered and when hook comes back its because he wants to take out peter and free the other lost boys so they dont end up like him as he found out he had been in never land far too long and his family was long gone, peter wants wendy to be the mother as an anchor to keep the lost boys with him in neverland because in the end for as much as he wants adventure there is no point in it if hes alone in them, not a complete idea but its something

[@SilvrSavior]

It certainly is a better idea and way to subvert the original story and give more meaning to Peter Pan being the villain protagonist.

[@thesardonicpig3835]

Holy sh*t, that's actually brilliant. That would give Hook a motivation that's both strong and understandable, and it would save Peter from just being a straightforward villain.

[@deandrenicholas2545]

It's a hell of a lot better than what Disney did with it...

[@toomanymarys7355]

That's quite clever!

[@LazGato]

You made a better script in less than 5 mins than what Disney did in months

[@boxofrox619]

Funny thing is that Disney and Western Culture as a whole is in a “Peter Pan” state. The parallel of 1953 Peter Pan not being able to recall Wendy’s stories to this movie not being able to recall its own story is quite poignant.

[@RedwoodTheElf]

Yeah, they lost the original joke about how "Girls are to clever to get lost" which is why the "Lost boys" are all BOYS. Barrie was pointing out how little boys are impulsive and tend to get into trouble more easily and, as he put it, they can be incredibly cruel at times, which Peter is on a number of occasions. When Wendy returns to Neverland later, Peter doesn't even REMEMBER Captain Hook, casually stating "oh, I forget them after I kill them."

[@LukeLovesRose]

I just noticed how the 1953 classic gave Wendy an upside down heart around her forehead. It totally encapsulates her beautiful character

[@isaacwright407]

Hook (the movie) is a staple of my childhood, but I will say I never realized how much depth was in the original Peter Pan animated movie. Also thanks for making these reviews, scratches the same itch as hate watching something without the drawback of paying the creators of these garbage fires.

[@mariecarie1]

Hook is an incredible gem. The screenwriter clearly was very familiar with the themes and characters in the book, and the book is often quoted or otherwise referenced throughout the movie. It’s so good

[@ArDeeMee]

It’s also a proper sequel, not retroactively forcing changes into a previous story, but instead going „then this happens“ and develop the story from there. It was also a fun movie.

[@justin_5631]

Yeah while Hook also twists Peter's eventual ending I never realized how much they carried from Barrie's original. Even the part about living being an awfully big adventure.

[@TranscendentaLobo27]

Absolutely incredible take on this story. At least we can appreciate how deep and meaningful the original stories are by juxtaposing them against the vapid and shallow excrement that is 2023’s Peter Pan and Wendy. Top notch work Platoon, top notch.

[@ashlynbulsara4238]

This video better get a million views I love the 2003 peter pan.

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

Here’s hoping!

[@gamingforever9121]

Something of note is that in the 1953 animated film tinker bell was so jealous of Wendy. That she was willing to sell everyone out to get rid of Wendy. This she comes to regret which is completely missing from the new film .

[@ChaoticYak1]

The live action Peter Pan story I enjoyed the most was actually Hook. Yes, I know it's more a sequel than a remake, but it addresses all of those growing up themes, expressing them with Peter himself. His deliberate rejection of Neverland and his embracing living in the real world never quite goes away. He does have the return to the thoughtless life of Neverland but only briefly. His happy memory that allows him to fly is not Neverland but the birth of his son. As a follow-up to Peter Pan, it's, by far, my favorite in that it stays true to the heart of the story but extends it. I do appreciate your in-depth critiques of these movies and shows. I haven't watched much of modern cinema but I actually really enjoy watching thorough critiques of modern cinema.

[@ryans3795]

Same, hook is a true gem and has always been in my heart since I was young.

[@mattjindrak]

Rufioooooo Rufiooooooo

[@samcochran8203]

@@mattjindrak looky looky I got Hooky

[@kaytlinjustis5643]

I love that one too, and not just because Robin Williams was in it! ^^

[@GeorgeMonet]

Hook is an accidental masterpiece.

[@FirstLast-il6ok]

It just goes to show how well written these films were. The subtlety could completely be overlooked in the message and the writers didn’t try to pass off shallowness as subtlety. The works are rich with deep themes and meaning.

[@ashardalondragnipurake]

the original story makes you smile as a child and cry as an adult while the new rewrite leaves you empty as both

[@PsychicGirl]

I had forgotten how good Jason Isaacs was as Hook in the 2003 version.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

I had forgotten about the Darling brothers right up until you reminded the audience that the Darings brothers offer nothing to the movie. It actually reminds me what this movie is about: Wendy and what she wants.

[@bruder._.ketchup6188]

My favorite quote of yours: "It's a lack of well-crafted characters and stories that has driven us to hate modern writing, not some sexist racist boogie man." I love when people play the racist/sexist card when we aren't leaping with joy in the face of race swaps (black Tinker Bell), inclusion (the lost cultarly diverse children), and girl bossing (Tiger Lily and the "this power belongs to no boy"). But the truth is it isn't these things per say that make us hate these remakes, but it's the force-feed of the activist/feminist agenda and Disney using this as a shield for their mediocre writing that pisses me off. These sorts of tweaks can be done well, but when it disrespects the material, alienates the fanbase, and is solely done to make a quick buck, I lose more and more faith in the studio. Well done as always, sir. Thank you again for reassuring me I'm not crazy and this isn't just all in my head. I'll be looking forward to Mando Season 3 Part II.

[@alice88wa]

You know what really offends me about Disneys 'feminist takes'? IT REDUCES THEM TO MEN, EVERY. TIME.

[@thejasminedragonmerchant6843]

​​​@@alice88wayep. There's nothing wrong with a warrior lady, but it has to be done _with nuance_ . Given how absolutely no passion and thought seems to go into making these girlboss characters that get churned out like factory models, it's honestly really disappointing that Disney nowadays seems entirely bent on making all their new female characters ALWAYS have to be overpowered I-can-do-everything-you-can--do-but-BETTER shallow caricatures. While I applaud having strong, vibrant, impassioned female characters that can hold their own, that doesn't mean that they must therefore be carbon copies of all the dudes. You can be feminine and like artsy things and still be amazing. You're allowed to emote and have emotions and be soft. It's not a crime. You can be tough and strong and brave _and_ still have a soft heart and show compassion and empathy for others. The 1950s Wendy was kind, loving, and brave. She could have adventures quite happily with her brothers and embraced Neverland with absolute joy, but she still loved her parents, she still offered songs and stories not just to the Lost Boys but the pirates too, and when all was said and done she still had the strength to turn her back on Neverland's incredible allure and go back to the gentler mundanity of her home in London. It's beautiful. It's like Disney wants their audience to think all new female character reboots must be bland now. It's sad.

[@HardcandyofJustice]

Every time I see the main actress, i hear Marry Poppins in my head: "Shut your mouth, you're not a codfish!"

[@cryptic1999]

In my opinion, the "Captain hook was a Lost Boy" storyline could've worked if they made Hook's character more mad. As in, Hook gets lost at sea after leaving Neverland after having a falling out with Peter. Hook ends up lost at sea long enough to go crazy before being found by pirates and later returns as an old mad man Peter doesn't recognize as his old friend and Hook attacks, Peter cuts off Hook's hand and we have an way of preserving Peter's innocence and Hook's role as the villain of the story.

[@goldenwaver-themagicalspir9618]

It's funny how countless other less popular studios made better remakes for Peter Pan than "Disney." Just goes to show you how far this formerly magical studio has fallen.

[@pendragon0905]

Except for the Winnie the Pooh slasher movie which tries to turn Pooh Bear into Jason Voorhees.

[@builder396]

One small thing I keep going back to is Wendy's line about motherhood: "I dont even know if I want to be a mother!" It sounds like it came out of a political debate about abortions, which is probably where the writers get the sentiment from. Simply change it to: "I dont even know if I *could* be a mother." Equally short, but it would at least lend an appreciation to the implied responsibility, the vast variety of how a mother cares for a child in so many ways, a recognition of the warm fuzzy feelings she still has herself, from the care she got, and the care she imagines giving someday. But we cant have that, thats femininity! Its weak and disgusting! Female characters cant have that!

[@elizabethanthony3916]

Spot on 👍👏👏👏👏

[@pendragon0905]

Indeed. Clearly these people never heard of eudaimonia.

[@Sashadraga]

I mean it would be nice but it doesn't fit if a character doesn't ever want to become a mother, which is what it seems like they were going for. And it does exist irl, not only in pushy films.

[@Dravianpn02]

Neil Gaiman's Snow White is a great example of taking an existing story, flipping it and giving it proper depth.

[@mikeylicksit]

"Missssster Smeeeee!" the animated version will always be #1 in our house. #2 is Finding Neverland...thank you Johnny Depp.

[@elizabethanthony3916]

😁👍👏👏👏

[@SteezyRider]

I'm going to watch all of this in pure unadulterated solidarity due to the sheer amount of crap you had to go through to get it uploaded.

[@LorenzoEusebi]

Having a modern girl with lip filler already in the role of a coming of age Victorian girl really breaks my suspension of disbelief.

[@hairyballs089]

Does the actress actually have lip filler? Our society is f-d. How is that not as damaging for young women as Skinny to the point of anorexia.

[@fatjoe460]

Had the chance to enjoy this early on Twitter and like to say thanks again for such a through review on the Peter Pan movies. Your commentary really brings to life the depths and ideals these writers packed into this timeless classic. These newer writers are standing on the back of giants and see them as nothing more than cogs in a machine.

[@fionnaitsradag5152]

As a kid, I loved the book. And I quite like the 2003 live-action film. It took some liberties, but overall, remained fairly true to the book.

[@InDeathWeLove]

I would say this is the anti-adaption in that fundamentally the creators behind this movie disagree with the morals the original story was about and instead of doing the correct thing and deciding not to take part in the adaptation of a work they fundamentally won't be able to honestly portray they want to "fix it" and in doing so disrespect the original author, the story itself and its fans. The problem is currently no one at Disney actually appreciates motherhood. Sure maybe some of them might give some minor lip service to it, but they are definitely the types that wouldn't see being a stay at home mother focusing entirely on motherhood as a healthy choice for women so they have to change what is effectively one of the two core parts of the story and worse yet in doing so they also harm Peter Pan's part of the story by taking away from his unique aspects to give the girls "new and improved" character growth more attention.

[@OverAnalyst]

Good point. Drives me crazy how people miss that CHOICE was an OG feminist goal. I love my career-gal life (Army vet, no kids) *and* admire SAHM friends raising happy, well-adjusted kids. "Auntie" is fun, but fr: kids that make good choices are better for society than crap I work on. It's gross to devalue moms just because other choices exist! Also this "Be Strong Woman = Do Man Things" is pretty misogynist if ya think about it. And dumb AF.

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

Yup. By the same token, you get a pretty good read into their lack of values. They know vaguely what they oppose, because they’re supposed to oppose it, but the film is empty because they don’t actually have a value set to replace the one they’ve deemed outmoded. Beyond vague, generic “girls in STEM” type symbolism.

[@InDeathWeLove]

@@TheLittlePlatoon that’s literally all they have, a vague girls should need no man and also should find fulfillment in a career instead of family. The former though somewhat discongruous with the original the latter is entirely counter to the original’s message about growing up and motherhood as at it’s core it doesn’t respect motherhood as a valuable thing at all.

[@InDeathWeLove]

@@OverAnalyst I mean do they have any “healthy womanhood” that’s not just act like a stereotypical man? As in focus most of your energy towards your career, have fun and don’t be too nurturing? You can’t be dependent on a man even if he is dependent on you as being two halves of a unit to make it more efficient and thus lower stress and more conducive to raising kids while keeping the household afloat. They don’t have a lot of respect for the traditional man’s role in the dynamic, however they absolutely hate the woman’s role in it to the point where now it actually gets ridiculed rather than respected by the very people claiming to be pro-woman and their choices. That’s not to say we should ridicule women who choose to not go the traditional route like we used to, but we have just inverted the dynamic.

[@rowantic6539]

Capitalism does not respect motherhood. You need to be an obedient worker and then die. That is what this is.

[@RutherfordBeehayze-kw2mz]

My favorite part is the flash-forward scene where Wendy is dying, old sickly and alone on a cat-piss stained couch while her siblings are all off spending quality time with their wives and grandchildren looking back on a life well lived ever since that disgusting harpie left their lives for good.

[@StriderStryker]

Me when watching Peter Pan and Wendy: *snores* Me when finishing reading Peter Pan for the first time: *starts crying nonstop*

[@RREvilMonk]

Outstanding work in both understanding the source material and the faults of the “modern” attempt. Cheers!

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

Thank you!

[@marshalhammel5065]

"Mother is name of god in the lips and hearts of little children." - The Crow (Eric Draven) [Quote is originally from William Thackeray.]

[@petriew2018]

William Thackeray, actually. It wasn't an original line, and possibly completely ad libbed by Brandon Lee, who was always pushing for the character to be more contemplative instead of just broody, which is how the original script made him.

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

It can't rain all the time.

[@marshalhammel5065]

@@petriew2018 I attributed the quote to Brandon Lee's Character because that's where I heard it first: and I was using his interpretation of the quote rather than the religious intention of Thackeray. I'll amend my initial comment to provide proper credit.

[@magetsalive5162]

All that matters is the message. Good writing? Coherent plot? Accuracy to the original? Nuts to all that, they got some *preaching* to do.

[@williame6455]

The 2003 peter pan was so good a portraying Wendy growing up even when she was denying it and peter starting to be influenced by it but refusing and rejecting it as soon as he realised what was happening, only wanting to play and be a child. And why didn't they took the same actor for hook and Wendy's father as it is usually done in theater (and the 2003 movie). It has meaning. The father is view as the villain by Wendy and peter and the real villain in Neverland takes his face ... anyway, the 2023 movie critics are the only entertaining thing about it !!

[@sethkaicer319]

Creatively bankrupt and morally exhausted.

[@rosamy2017]

There’s a million good ways to tell a story about how gender doesn’t matter. But the world loves to tell adolescents that gender matters a whole fucking lot, and that’s why it IS important to have stories that show that being a boy is great, being a girl is great, and choosing your own path regardless is also great. If Disney doesn’t like what a story has to say, they shouldn’t tell the story.

[@kevinarnold8634]

Many such stories can be told, but none of them change the fact that gender does matter.

[@TOONYBOY]

32:37 That's such a hilarious scene with the soundtrack. The way his eyes and his entire body jitters in time with the ticking clock and the beat of the song makes it look like the crocodile has its own soundtrack they can hear

[@gelchert]

The crocodile also looks at the audience at least once, so you’re left with the impression that it can break the fourth wall.

[@TOONYBOY]

@@gelchert I don't remember it doing that, but if so, I guess that's an entertaining notion

[@MinisterRoy205]

I begin to believe, the classics, are classic not because of nostalgia, but because they really fill a recently left empty hole. the hole being, an enjoyable bit of history making film. Robin Williams was a living legend, and he was a living example of classics being good, not because of blind nostalgia, but because it was good.

[@shanehudson3995]

The brothers don't get any characterization because the film isn't about them anymore than it's about Peter. This is a Wendy empowerment film.

[@vskane]

I feel like every time Little Platoon releases one of these extended commentaries I always call it his best work to date. This is Little Platoon’s best work to date. There, I’ve said it.

[@thesrow1056]

I think Disney died when they decided to prioritize accounting and profit maximization over creativity and imagination

[@Frieslick]

If they cared about profits, they wouldn't be grooming children and blackwashing white folklore. Money and profit are being sacraficed in order to inject cultural maxist poison into our culture. That's the agenda.