SIR JACKIE STEWART - THE EXCLUSIVE REVEAL by Peter Windsor

This weekend's Italian GP marks the 50th anniversary of Sir Jackie Stewart's epic drive with Elf Team Tyrrell to clinch the 1973 FIA F1 World Championship. Peter Windsor spoke exclusively to Sir Jackie on Tuesday of this week not only about that momentous day but also about his other unforgettable moments at Monza. With BRM he scored his first F1 win at the circuit; and in a Tyrrell Matra he clinched the 1969 World Championship at Monza with a dazzling slipstreaming win over Lotus' Jochen Rindt. In between those key moments, Sir Jackie evolved as the greatest F1 driver of his era and as the most important single influencer of motor racing safety and big business: no other individual, in short, has indirectly saved more lives or brought more money into F1. Peter talks to Sir Jackie about all of this, too - and about his decision, despite a recent health scare, to attend this weekend's Italian GP.
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[@NicotineRosberg]

Sir Jackie is 84 years old ppl.. let us enjoy him while we still can. He is the embodiment of a living legend

[@philkakid5617]

And commitment and integrity.

[@jan.lotvall]

What an epic video🙏🙏👍

[@Lance_Lough]

What an excellent interview. Mr. Windsor lets him talk with a minimum of interruption. Well done to all.

[@dietpepsivanilla3095]

IMO, the Sir Jackie Stewart is the greatest ambassador Formula 1 has ever had. All the best to him and Helen.

[@terrymusch9581]

You Peter are the only person on the planet who could have done that historical interview. Brilliant. I spent all summer following Jackie in 1973 starting at Monaco. A very special time. Many thanks for this.

[@stevebrooks65]

It makes me more fully appreciate looking back at my first F1 race in Canada at age 15 watching what turned out to be Jackie Stewart's final race in 1973. the rain soaked weekend sleeping in the car at corner 2 never dampened my excitement. A remarkable driver and for all he did to improve the safety of the sport at a great personal cost is simply amazing.

[@dgomes265]

Was also there.

[@stevebrooks65]

@@dgomes265 really? Wow! We didn’t know it was his last race. I think he qualified or maybe just a practice session at Walkens Glen following Mosport

[@peterbailey2732]

I was a young pupil at the racing school (Motor Racing Stables) at Brands Hatch and at a F3 test session we were told to keep to the inside of the track when the F3 teams were on the track. We had old F3 cars, no seat belts and I remember a moment when I realised I would never become a professional ra ceding driver. I had come through Paddock Hill bend and was going up to Druids when with a blast of sound and colour I was overtaken by Jackie Stewart in the Cooper works F3 car, and glued to his tail was Mike Spence in the works Lotus F3 and glued to his tail was Roy Pike in the Chequered Flag Brabham F3. They must have been a couple of feet away from me as they blasted past and I remember jinking to the right out of fright and having a moment on the grass before gaining the track and getting round Druids. For every lap I did they did one and a half laps. I reached a stage when I had a driver coach who was the late great Tony Lanfranchi. Having crashed at Druids trying to meet a target lap time and ending up in Dartford hospital, my father went to pick up my road car and asked Tony if I would ever make a pro driver and was told, never make it, he is a 9/10th man, too much self preservation. He is above the average and could be ok in club racing but never a pro. So ended my attempt at race car driving., Seeing Jackie Stewart reminded of those days long ago.

[@AmericasChoice]

Glad you are still alive, if you had kept going you would have died in a crash.

[@smarsh7727]

The amount of f1 knowledge in these 2 mens heads is off the charts .Great interview Peter. Although sir Jackie is an interviewers dream lol

[@davidearthling5123]

Sir Jackie Stewart, one of my favorite drivers along with Jim Clark. Thank you, Peter. Only you could’ve drawn out so much in conversation with our living legend.

[@fintonmainz7845]

Excellent interview with no unnecessary interruptions. People forget how hated Stewart was because of his safety campaign.

[@FEARYOYOYO]

Sir Jackie is looking great for being 100!

[@Conservator.]

84 of course but still looking good. 😉

[@barryfastcars25]

I met Sir Jackie at Pebble Beach about 10 years ago. We walked along the 18th hole for about 10 minutes talking about some of the vintage Ferrari's in front of us. Just the best person.

[@raydriver7300]

That was lovely, so moving. Thank you both 🌞

[@hhgv]

Such a full life, giving and leading, simply legendary!

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

Always followed and respected this driver and person. His being Scottish helped my affinity for him.

[@andygray6749]

What a brilliant, nostalgic interview,, thank you very much Peter ,, so insightful 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@david-joeklotz9558]

Love these interviews. Thanks so much

[@kellycook5314]

You take me back to an existing period having met Sir Jackie who signed a small Smiths Instrument hardcover book 📕 to this day some 50 years later I have never seen such fine penmanship … 3 time F1 championship winner 🏆 🏆🏆 27 Grand Prix wins only 99 races … He took action on safety because he felt the real loss of so many friends … I salute 🫡 you … and yes I was wearing my Jackie Stewart black signature cap in Canada 🇨🇦 when you took a moment to engage a 15 year old enthusiast … thank you . Peter wonderful work as always

[@mattzegarski3831]

Sir Jackie is one of my favorite drivers of all time. This interview shows why.

[@user-xc1yv1wr7o]

The best program in many years. Sir Jack is the Man. I grow up in the formula one world, and this interview was the best. I feel sorry that my dad passway and did not listent. Dear Peter, keeping us happy !!! Fábio from Barzil

[@WimvdBrink]

Living legend .. and still bright and funny at this age. Great interview

[@johnandzelewski]

The helmet behind Jackie during the interview is one I provided for him while I was at Ford. It was reserved for him on site to use when evaluating limit handling of our prototype/competitor vehicles. But first, it was shipped to England for the special Tartan Plaid paint treatment as Jackie specified. I still have mine but without the plaid of course. Jackie was extremely helpful in quickly improving our vehicles in the 80's and 90's (and later) as he would communicate needed changes (usually late and expensive)directly to the highest levels of Ford Management and bypass much of the bureaucracy. Interesting and fun to work with.

[@hopeenquiries3638]

lovely chap, I met Jackie not so long ago in first class Emirates

[@kiwi335d]

A lovely interview and conversation between two of my favorite people ever to be directly involved in Formula 1

[@MarioDallaRiva]

Brilliant, Peter & Sir Jackie! I remember in the mid 80s seeing a VHS tape of Jackie Stewart's Principles of Performance Driving at a Video rental outlet (remember those places?!?). One of my best rentals ever! I began using only three fingers on the shifter of my Fiat Spider 2000 from that point I recall. Smooooth

[@floodo1]

[@martinclapton2724]

Great interview of a great guy. I put him above Schumacher, on my top rung with Senna and Clark .

[@nigelsouthworth5577]

Thanks Peter and Jackie for a wonderful chat. And thanks to KZbin too. Jackie, I saw you at your Classic Show in Lauder recently and it was such a wonderful festival. I hope you can repeat it if events allow. If not, it's a very special memory.

[@stonetrouble5053]

I started following F1 mid-way through the 1971 season. It was Stewart's book "Faster" that got me hooked. In 1971 in the USA, it was quite a task to follow F1. F1 got almost no coverage in the press. I often had to wait for 2 months after a race to read a report of it in Road & Track. The sport was very amateur then. A ticket for the race might have cost $15. I was there that sad day in Watkins Glen in 1973 to attend what I assumed would be Stewart's last race. His teammate, Cevert, died in the practice session. The violence of the sport was awful. I still have F1 nightmares.

[@Enzoblueblood]

Jackie believed Cevert was destined to be world champion. I’m not old enough but I’ve deep dived into those years. Tragedy was so normal those days.

[@charlescastell4638]

Sir Jackie represents the best of the gentleman gladiators from an era that will never be seen again.

[@pauled111]

Supreme interview!

[@robertheymann5906]

As a little in the 1960s in America Jacki Stewart was the only racer from outside America I remember hearing. He was beyond famous and still is...what a blessing to be a race fan during his legacy. Thanks Peter

[@Enzoblueblood]

He named dropped Curtis Lemay (candidate for vice president); if he’s talking about Gen. Curtis Lemay, then this is breaking news to me. Couldn’t imagine that guy as a Jim Clark fan. Amazing story.

[@FordTransitvan]

Wow, what an interview and Jackie is a legend.

[@nikjames2965]

A gut wrenching interview. JYS was a great champion

[@nikjames2965]

Well done PW - you're the best

[@TheJimbeatson]

As a 78-year-old, I was brought up by a motor sport dad. I followed F1 seriously, from the rise of Vanwall in the mid-‘50s. Dad was a subscriber of the celebrated British monthly, called Motor Sport, then widely regarded in the Anglosphere as the final word on F1. The writer who covered all F1 races for Motor Sport, was a bearded bespectacled older journalist, Denis Jenkinson, author of The Racing Driver: The Theory and Practice of Fast Driving who had been the sidecar passenger, to the World Sidecar Champion in 1949, what today is called Moto GP. Jenkinson was also the legendary navigator alongside the much younger Stirling Moss, in one of Moss's most famous victories, the 1955 Mille Miglia. “Jenks”, as he was known, also had a monthly, long-form commentary-column called Continental Notes. Peter Windsor’s brilliant and revealing interview barely details the vitriol heaped on the modest Jackie Stewart for initiating his brave stand in demanding the FIA, and other F1 administrators, take action over a lack of safety at circuits, and in F1 cars, over the appalling number of F1 drivers who died in races from the early ‘60s to the late ‘80s. Elsewhere Stewart has explained he kept his mouth shut over his views until he became World Champion, because he anticipated the hostility he would face. Most of all I remember the disgraceful print space that Motor Sport’s editor, gave to Denis Jenkinson, who decried Stewart literally as a “coward”, who argued since admission tickets to F1 events clearly stated that ‘motor racing was dangerous, and you attended at your own risk’, both spectators and especially F1 drivers, participants did so at their own risk. Therefore, had no F1 driver had the right to advocate that the sport should not lead to a driver’s death. So, I stopped reading Motor Sport, as I regarded it as colluding in F1 deaths. I believe it's important that F1 history be honestly confronted as we must confront all of humanity’s ugly and sad sides honestly. Jackie Stewart for me became my all-time F1 hero, even greater than my previous loyalty to his friend, Jim Clark who like so many of Jackie’s friends, died behind the wheel of a racing car. This same feeling also led me to lose another youthful hero of mine, Lotus’ Colin Chapman, whose attitude to racing driver safety I regarded as cavalier.

[@davidlangley94]

One of the best interviews I’ve ever seen, thank you!

[@michaeldouglaskemp3204]

Just brilliant interview. Ask the questions and then listern.

[@fh2926]

Wow, Peter... This was outstanding! You did so well with this! I"m old enough to have just started following F1 when Sir Jackie won his 2nd and 3rd Championships (from the US, where information was scarce and delayed). I was 12 years old in 1971. I lknew F1 was special, but couldn't fully understand what I was watxhing. I have been increasingly nostalgic for rhose days, but this inteeview really drove home how special that era was. I'm happy for the safety we enjoy today, but could certainly do without rhe trivial pissing and moaning we get from certain drivers. Many of today's drivers could take a lesson from Jackie's humility as well. Jaxkie is a master and a legend from another era, an era both better and worse than we live in now. I remember it fondly. Thank you!

[@mikewessel6935]

Just brilliant Peter. Thank you! The one guy I wish I could get his autograph one day. He and Lauda, such interesting people.

[@m12x12]

Phenomenal, brilliant interview. Archival photos beautifully integrated. A wonderful, generous contribution.

[@wcads623]

What a legend at 84 with the memory of a 24yr old. Very impressive, a great driver one of the very greatest. 😊 It's such shame he does not appreciate a legend of the modern era, Sir Lewis😢

[@Enzoblueblood]

The memory recall on these guys always amazes. It’s like they’ve got hyperthymesia or something.

[@wcads623]

@@Enzobluebloodyes in those days F1 drivers were always on the very edge between life and death. So their experiences were so intense that the memories were just burned into their consciousness.😅😅

[@antonhuman8446]

What an example in life!

[@charliebrockway166]

Thank you! What a special and moving conversation. Simply the best ever.

[@floodo1]

Wow. Just wow

[@philtucker1224]

20+ years ago I had the honour of shaking Jackie’s hand. One of my lifetimes heroes since I started following F1 back in 1970. What a warm, polite gentleman he is. Big, warm hands with a firm grip and good eye contact, and that immediate sense of absolute strength beyond strength. I Never will forget that day..

[@shaunmckenna1923]

Well Peter that was one of your best if not the best video you have done , there will only be one Jackie Stewart

[@leica356]

That was really wonderful! Thank you!

[@ronaldweir712]

With Jim Clark I followed Jackie’s career avidly. It was a lovely interview with a living legend.

[@cathleendestefano368]

Lovely interview, Peter. Sir Jackie’s memories are so captivating. He has done so much for racing and F1 in particular. To have lost so many friends due to poor safety standards is beyond tragic. A true living legend. God bless him. Thank you, Peter. Well done.

[@johnmorrison27]

Absolutely amazing thank you so very much 👍👍

[@philkakid5617]

Every Formula 1 enthusiast needs to watch "The Quick and the Dead," a 1970's film about the sport during that era. Amazing the dangers these drivers faced. The current crop of drivers have no idea what their predecessors faced.

[@robertheymann5906]

Superb interview!

[@jonfreedman9069]

Brilliant! Thank you.

[@JLgG2454]

Thank You for an amazing interview; finding ourselves immersed one more time in that more sophisticated and refined era in motor racing and its enlightening culture of traditions and respect for individuals and their privacy. It actually made me smile because when today I witness all of this youth allowing themselves, for their car-spotting KZbin revenues, to completely wreck the privacy of all car owners to then disrupt what was an almost ceremonious moment where one would follow our parents, to be welcomed not just by a hotel manager but by one of the owners of such great palaces as the Cap Estel, the Eden Rock, or the Splendido. The day when Sir Jackie will pass, will be a very sad day for me, even if I certainly would be moved to tears if something was to happen to Sir Lewis Hamilton, or to Toto Wolff, and many others current personalities of that same industry , yet so different 'Club'.

[@danielbrazil4683]

Thank you Peter. Very grateful for this content.

[@aubanurmi]

What remarkable final words... Jackie is an absolute inspiration.

[@rockymtnsquid4537]

One of the true legends and an absolute gentleman of Formula One. And he is the exact same when you have the privilege to meet him in person. Much respect and love for JYS.

[@othgmark1]

Pure class.

[@Xboxracer1]

What an amazing piece. Thank you Peter 🙏❤

[@pidfenderlane9012]

Thank you, this is an amazing interview!

[@darrenbrailsford6809]

Sir Jackie really is a true living legend. Such a wonderful character and ambassador for motor racing and many other things. Thank heavens above we have such great people like him. Thank you sir Jackie and thank you Peter. Lovely video.

[@grahamleigh8398]

Great talk listening to you guys chatting. Salute.

[@joelpierce3940]

Thank You, Both! I love hearing about the History of F1. Used to watch on limited tv in the 60’s and 70’s. The men of that era had nerves of steel and intestinal fortitude!

[@chriswoolacott]

My childhood hero and 63 years still ,and living just up the road from Dumbarton, having met him many years ago as well ❤❤

[@chrism5433]

Thank you Jackie for all the hard work . Always a hero cheers 🍺

[@jamesthompson1279]

Excellent interview!

[@johnnycomelately6341]

Priceless instruction from the man who dared challenge the status quo, driven by an inate sense of correct and humanity. Lessons from history are necessary for progress, the right kind of progress

[@jameslove1363]

Great interview Peter I don’t know why we don’t have something similar to the Jim Clark Museum for Sir Jackie Stewart in Dumbartonshire Scotland.

[@buckfaststradler4629]

He hasn't lived there since the Sixties - lucky bastard , I didn't escape Dumbarton until 1980.

[@garyfallows1123]

Great chat, I won't say interview because you were two guys remembering the golden years of F1, I watched the documentary about chef James Martin getting to drive Sir Jackie's Tyrrell at Monza, Sir Jackie was there watching him, you could see the emotion on his face listening to his old car roaring down the start/finish straight, and even commenting on hearing the gear changes as James was rounding the circuit, you could tell how Monza has a special place in his heart, one of the few last great racers

[@Meine.Postma]

Thank you

[@25kmgb]

Thank you for providing this excellent opportunity to allow Sir Jackie to share these wonderful stories. His perspective on life and relationships that defined this period is priceless.

[@Lexington125]

Thanks for a great video. I recently watched the ‘Mansell Red 5’ doc , it was great & a pleasure to listen to you, some aspects of life are tough for me at this moment , so to look back and reminisce and understand the back stories I have to say is immense . Thanks Peter.

[@ptewilks2634]

Great Pte

[@mytinplaterailway]

What a great man. Thank you for doing this Peter.

[@aquaracer65]

From p20 back to p4… without DRS. Real racing, real overtaking.

[@marianne1555]

Thank you so much Peter, this interview is wonderful and it brought up a lot of beautiful souvenirs 😊 Jacky did a lot for the F1, thanks to him. There was more friendship among drivers, it was like F1 family, nothing to do with nowadays. I remember we never missed races which were gathering the whole family in front of the TV. Unforgettable moments. Thanks again ❤

[@stevew9957]

An excellent interview, informative and entertaining in a lovely mix. Well done Peter and sir Jackie.

[@tocsa120ls]

Thank you Peter, another excellent interview!

[@rodaguirre3418]

Great interview 👍

[@bmf97ss1]

Jackie is the Godfather of F1 💪

[@jimshorts6751]

He was always a class act. Huge ego, but he reined it in and became legend.

[@roelvanes1711]

Fabulous

[@davea3791]

Bravo Jackie……

[@dermotrees9873]

Part of the Golden Age. Long past.

[@Mac-jc8hd]

'Chicane', artificial' - love it, here speaks the truth

[@wcads623]

Great little anecdote about Jim Clarke 😂

[@OldmanNix]

What a legend. Also (please don't have me crucified for this but ...) After that "... bust down doors, flip cars ..." story I thought; "and today we snap over a bunch of fans booing".

[@richardmortimer8147]

Those deaths were totally unacceptable. Terrible that families were torn apart and children left fatherless. Thank God Jackie consigned those dreadful moments to the past.

[@edgarkapp2722]

Special

[@thomasmitchell6921]

Peter, I have a great personally taken photo of Dan Gurney I would love to make arrangements to send you and perhaps sir Jackie a copy

[@lukestevens6783]

57!

[@WicherBos]

57 😳

[@Conservator.]

20:04 I could use some help because I can’t exactly follow what Sir Jackie is saying (I’m Dutch). Could someone please explain why he had to get permission from the PM to go to the funeral? Thanks in advance!

[@cosmostrek2001]

he said he was a non-resident of the uk. he was a resident of Switzerland probably for tax purposes. back there was no eu. Everyone needs passports and visas to visit all countries. i would assume since he was not a resident offically of the uk they did not want people leaving for tax purposes to enjoy citizenship rights in the uk when you are a citizen of another country.

[@Conservator.]

@@cosmostrek2001Thank you very much! I thought he said something like not being a resident but that didn’t match with him being Scottish but with your explanation it makes perfectly sense. 🙏

[@Conservator.]

@@thegotterdammerungThank you! I didn’t know he had non-dom status back then. It makes sense to me now. Just FYI and because i’m a nerd;) The current rule is that if you spent less than 183 days in the UK in the tax year (and there wasn’t a period of over 91 days where your only home was in the UK) your foreign income won’t be taxed in the UK.

[@davea3791]

And Peter….

[@mike.999]

Dear Peter, I have been followed F1 since my fattar took me to the first GP of Sweden/Skandinavien of Raceway!! I have one statement and one question. 1 I think you are speaking in favour in "short cornering% drivers" compared to traditionel drivers (like Fernando). Pls comment w/o picturing me as an idiot! 2 Question, Whats your thoughts of my nr 1 driver all time, Ronnie?!?! Please give your thoughts, why did not win over Mario?, why did not win over Jackie?, I have never understood why Ronnie as a faster driver did not win over Mario and/over Jackie!! Awaiting your thoughtful answer. /Mikael, Sweden

[@alikhatibi]

1st 🇨🇭 👍

[@Tommy1198S]

🍪

[@freespeech3673]

I wonder if in 30 years Sir Lewis will be reminiscing about taking the knee and parading around in frocks?

[@fh2926]

No,.he will be remembered for his.piercings 👍😂👍😂

[@ecufile4095]

​@@fh2926 yess for shure and for hiss need to crash other F1 drivers with the same thing he learnd in the cartingsport, go fast in the corner and hitt with you backwheel hard to the F1 contender, and he crash hard off the track, and Lewis car stays hole. But finely not today, when he slammed into Russel F1 car, do normal Lewis cryboy, go fast but do not hitt your teammate car. Now Lewis got lucky, and hiss car missed a back wheel haha and G Russel gets 4fourt in the race. So Lewis drive better, look better and be not a dirty driver, the same you did in Silverstone with Max also an action, room annoff on hiss right side, bud steer into Max side to the left, and Max flyes off with 51G. Thanks Lewis for your sporty years not really you dirty driver. You go in the books as the dirtyest driver ever. Thats good to now. Greetings from a real F1 fan

[@tiagofernandes8389]

Jackie stewart better than Hamilton.

[@terrybeechener5992]

when racing drivers were men,not cosseted namby pambies like today's wallies.

[@fw0756]

A remarkable man .

[@robertvanzant2653]

When men were men ! Not these lulu lovers we have how who constantly have to appease Hamiltons victim complex, except for Max and Fernando lol .

[@ajwasp3642]

Max Backstabben🎉

[@roywinchel3620]

What a great interview 👨‍🦰the story of the fans busting down doors and tipping the truck on it's side 😂 Then the sorrow of loosing so many great drivers/people Several times a year.