PGA TOUR 2K21 - How To Improve Your Swing Timing

I hope this video helps you improve your swing timing on #PGATOUR2K21 #PGATOUR2K21TipsAndTricks #PGATOUR2K21SwingTiming Follow me on Twitter @1981Early Big mention to T.Mitchell for bringing this to my attention

[@RudeandRude]

Finally, someone who gives a real tip. This was extremely helpful.

[@Early1981]

Hey pal I'm glad it helped

[@daves9355]

I thought slow and fast was based on how hard you push the controller down??

[@TheScotsman9]

Right am off to the practice ground 🏌️‍♂️🏌️‍♂️🏌️‍♂️ great tips & tricks vid, just wanting I have been waiting for. Ps love the bonus clip at the end 😁😁

[@Early1981]

Your welcome pal. Your the first person to mention the bonus clip 🎯

[@tacituskilgore2316]

Thanks mate, you just helped me massively... Great visual aid... Great work 👍👍👍👍😁👍👍👍👍

[@Early1981]

Delighted to hear that pal.

[@richardbarcaricchio]

An honest to god tip. Looking forward to trying this out. Thanks mate! Subscribed.

[@Early1981]

Delighted it helped. Cheers pal

[@ralphgiofre4316]

Great Tip, thanks for the video Lee. . . . and Thanks to Mitchell for pointing that out for you to share!! Continued Success!!

[@Early1981]

Your welcome pal.

[@tmitchell6552]

Cheers pal

[@steholden1975]

I understand what you are saying; and always do what works best. Everybody will find their own method, but the margins are so small, a perfect can soon become a fast / slow, or worse with little difference in feeling. I personally use the small window right after the vibration to determine my downswing. Nothing else matters other that not losing consistency with the completion of the downswing, but my sole focus is maximising distance control and therefore sacrificing forgiveness / swing plane, where I already feel pretty confident. Having a bigger window at the top of the backswing is massive for me; and makes a huge difference when it comes to hitting perfect shots.

[@Early1981]

Great post pal. Yea it's about finding what set up best suits you.

[@anthonygregory1391]

Great stuff, congrats to guy who figured it out. Great shot at the end m8⛳👍👍

[@Early1981]

Great find from him. Thanks it's great executing those shots

[@tmitchell6552]

@@Early1981 Cheers guys.

[@Bobbynotthingham]

Great stuff, never even noticed that. Can't wait to try it later 👍🏽

[@Early1981]

I hope it helps pal

[@bearcat0]

Some of these comments are wack, this info was really helpful. A few calibrations later and using the timing strategy in the video, I’m absolutely crushing the ball straight down the middle

[@Early1981]

Hey pal delighted that it has helped you. Thanks for the support and feedback

[@cd06tgc79]

Yesterday I changed from Amateur to Pro settings on my swing as it felt stupid shooting -10 or better all the time. This should really help me Early, thank you! Also, I should say now that the Olympia Fields course you played there was crappy autogen...

[@Early1981]

Glad to hear your game is improving. Your very welcome. Thanks for the support pal

[@tangerinechris4492]

I am glad I saw this video as it has help a lot from the wild swings I was was having a times. I was trying different ways to figure it out but with little success though.

[@Early1981]

Delighted to hear it has helped pal.

[@douglasweston2742]

Hi Lee Thanks again for the tips. Interesting. I'll certainly give it a go, as my tempo is abysmal . Qualified for the pga tour but it was a struggle lolol. Loving the challenge though. Stay safe Cheers Doug

[@Early1981]

Not a guaranteed fix. I think the meter is for swing distance but great spot from the subscriber. Certainly helping me

[@conor9298]

Wow. That’s cracked the code for me. Much more consistent like almost instantly.

[@Early1981]

Glad it has helped you pal

[@andrewcarr9024]

That's really useful, thank you!

[@Early1981]

Pleasure pal

[@Resenbrink]

I have calibrated a few times now but continue to consistently hit it slow on Pro settings, occasionally red slow and very slow. I basically have started playing always aiming left to deal with my perpetual slow swing speed. I'm going to give your tip in this a go and see how I go - thanks for posting this tip.

[@Early1981]

I hope it helps you out pal.

[@oldgamerwyzzy6163]

I tried this method after getting more and more frustrated. Before I tried it, Round 1 was +5, I then watched your video after searching for some guidance, Round 2 I got -7. So thanks alot man!

[@Early1981]

Glad it helped pal

[@richjacobsen7217]

I'll give it a shot, but I think the key is finding the difficulty level that works best for you, practicing and playing, and moving up as you improve. Kind of like real golf :-)

[@Early1981]

Your 100% correct pal.

[@erikanderson712]

Do you have any tips on how to swing forward on your analog? That’s my main concern right now. I can only hit it straight if I’m looking at the controller. Thanks!

[@Early1981]

I've never looked at my controller to swing. I'd suggest hit the range and activate the practice swing and just familiarize yourself with swinging without looking at the controller.

[@rockyhoughtaling2007]

Great vid. This will help.

[@Early1981]

I hope so pal

[@solidrockofjesuschristmini2423]

Ok so I've tried this on practice and so far it's made me more consistent, I am very inconsistent and now it's more consistent, I literally just like you said focus on the bar I look at nothing else lol

[@Early1981]

Delighted to hear its helping pal

[@celticwolf1896]

I've been focusing on the grey bar as well, I'm still struggling to get to grips with the Master difficulty but will persevere with it.

[@Early1981]

Hang in there pal you will nail it soon. I'm looking to jump back up to Master settings soon.

[@FunnyDud696969]

Fantastic video

[@Early1981]

Thank you

[@Mrequine1]

Chiping in the game is the same on a real coarse DON'T CHOOSE the highest lofted club subject to how far you want the ball to roll out, and play a chip with shaft lean by deloft the club, for much longer chip use up to a 5i as the 5i will roll out much further than a pitch wedge, its really important you select your landing spot depending on the loft of the club your useing, so for me a 30ft chip i probably would use a pitch wedge to 8i depending on slope and speed of the green!!!! 5i 60ft chip land on the edge of the the green (fringe or light ruff) let role upto the hole

[@Early1981]

Good advice.

[@tonydavies676]

Thanks mate really great tip

[@Early1981]

I hope it helps

[@ReddyFreddygo]

Hi, really struggling with the timing playing on Master settings, just had +46 on a 2 round placement play in a society,absolutley dreadful. I am intending to stick with the Master setting b ut the frustration is awful, looking at the pinch grey bar may help, I'm going to give it a try, thanks.

[@Early1981]

The timing is frustrating in this game pal, especially on master. I'm finding the timing tough myself.

[@bullshed5819]

Its a help to have a mechanism that will indicate the moment to swing forward. I tried to use the rumble in the controller but that is not as consistent for me.

[@Early1981]

Yea I totally agree pal

[@28russ]

That's pretty much what I've been trying to do but I think it's more about the stick speed because ya can still manage to get fasts, slows and perfects if ya hold the stick at the top of the swing for a few secs. And it takes a bit of power off if ya wanna hit a 95%er. I'll have to play with it some more. Now they've updated it again it might be more consistent. They've fixed the putting glitch anyway :-)

[@Early1981]

I'm certainly finding my timing more consistent using that method.

[@ScottoSoHotto82]

I know this is an old video, but thank you for this. I'm still slightly slow or slightly fast, but this is a great tip.

[@Early1981]

Pleasure pal, I'm glad it helped.

[@YellowandBlack]

Great Vid Mate i can hit it long but yes hitting it straight all the time is killing me

[@Early1981]

Yea it can be tough pal

[@jmu76featuring61]

How do you get the slope grid when hitting your shot...icant tell if ihave to aim left or right ..the grid where the ball is doesnt show

[@Early1981]

You need to disable the true shot setting that calculates it for you automatically and make sure lie grid is enabled

[@PinkStarburst717]

Great information man.

[@Early1981]

I hope it helps pal

[@PinkStarburst717]

@@Early1981 it helped tremendously.

[@HomageProductions]

Interesting. Probably of use at the beginning. I played with shot feedback switched off in TGC2019. I aim to do that with 2k21. I also don't play with the vibration. It's too distracting for me personally. I feel as though I'm chasing the vibration, rather than looking at where I'm supposed to be going. Just one big adventure for me. Trying to feel my way around. Getting roughly 90% perfects at the moment.

[@Early1981]

I think its useful as a visual aid. I agree with the vibration. If your getting 90% perfects your doing better than me well done

[@tmitchell6552]

90%?? Thats not possible beyond Pro clubs....even on Pro its hard to imagine.

[@HomageProductions]

@@tmitchell6552 I tend to play Pro-Am. I still get a high percentage on Pro, but not necessarily in the direction I'm aiming for ;)

[@tmitchell6552]

@@HomageProductions Yeah I'd be around 90% on Pro-Am....too easy for me. I feel they should put a skill level between Pro and Master personally I mean I don't know why they need Beginner and Amateur , surely only 1 of those is needed.

[@greymack]

Worth a try

[@Early1981]

I hope it helps

[@scaffscazz8497]

this could be very useful, what was in the update we downloaded and installed today (ps4), i cannot find any info?

[@Early1981]

Your welcome pal. Society fixes and stability mainly.

[@Safetyman99]

I want to try and watch the golfer animation to do my swinging instead of watching a meter. Do you think that's possible? Might be difficult on chipping and putting.

[@Early1981]

I'd suggest looking at his swing, as soon as your golfer hits top of his backswing move your analog stick to begin your down swing

[@Safetyman99]

@@Early1981 I'll give it a shot and see what I can do. Thanks.

[@jard627]

I just started playing but that's what works best for me is just looking at my character when I swing. If I look at the meter I like snap the analog stick up and get a lot of very fast snap hooks

[@ScaffManGaming]

I’m on Xbox should I use left or right stick btw great video

[@Early1981]

I play with right stick as I am right handed pal

[@ScaffManGaming]

Great I will give it a try Also that is for the reply I subbed 👍😀

[@stevesumner9988]

great video. I also miss when you would get within 50 yards or closer, and hit a key to view the pin on the green to see how the shot was going to break. that is now gone. have to hit the tab key 3 times to get a small look ahead. i'm pc, and mouse

[@kendob9642]

Have u discovered the mouse "cheat"?

[@Early1981]

Thanks pal. Yea I've heard of a few more issues since the update

[@dannyrand1733]

Great video Early. I hope this will help new players to the game because many are frustrated as we speak.

[@Early1981]

Cheers pal. Yea I feel the frustration but you can make the game as easy as you like until you are ready to step up the difficulty.

[@jompe84]

I really don’t get why some societys tend to remove the swinging-meter function, it’s just turn the entire game into a frustrating experience. It’s a strategy behind the bar, especially while putting! The society should match people with simular drivers too, loosing with 40 strokes with a leader who always lands at least 150m ahead of you is nothing else but unfair!

[@Early1981]

As a society president it's tough to get a setting that will accommodate everyone. As you said the gulf between casual players and the competitive players is massive. I'd suggest finding a society that has the settings you are looking for. Failing that try and practice with the swing meter off.

[@bonesblinks5330]

I was under the impression the bar shrinking was purely to do with going over 100% and then getting an accuracy margin or error penalization for it. I haven't personally felt a link with it actively giving me fasts or slows (as in moving my marker further astray). Seems a bit odd to work that way, I mean it's just a theory after all based on anecdotal evidence. (Edit) - I think this game is just so sensitive that it will cause people to come up with theories based on what they think or felt was correlating in a specific round, when in reality it may not work that way. But... it could also be correct.

[@beakstown5622]

Yh that's correct the bar shrinks as soon as you enter over swing I feel like the tempo has changed on PS4 since yesterday's update, the swing I was uning for the 1st week now gives fast all the time

[@Early1981]

That was my initial thoughts, but using that method I showed in the video has improved my swing consistency so god knows lol

[@Early1981]

I agree tempo has changed for me since update

[@xaininpc5625]

Yes you're basically right, waiting till the bar shrinks does mean you are in overswing and will lose a little bit of forgiveness. But if your tempo is generally on point, you can use this method to almost always get a 101%. Also, for those who use the swing when it rumbles method, this is more noticeable and can help you dial in when to time the start of your downswing especially when learning the timing for partial shots. I think this method is great for learning. Just might suffer a little on those shots where you might wanna hit a shot at a lower % than what the game will let you aim to. Also may want to phase out of it later on when you move up to master/legend difficulty and +distance / -forgiveness clubs where you don't wanna sacrifice even that tiny bit of forgiveness from overswings.

[@ticonderoga8000]

This is 100% wrong lmao. The bar shrinks when you go over 100% power, it literally has nothing to do with swing timing.

[@Early1981]

Not going to help everyone

[@garrettnobles8956]

It’s important because over swinging makes tempo misses bigger. But yeah tempo seems to be controlled my how hard you slam the sticks forward

[@MrDejavu1982]

Thats what i was thinking

[@madf3rn]

I use to flick my swing on pga 2019 on a good new controller first pull back and then flick, this seems harder to achieve on pga 2k21. Also putting I now need to use the power bar in pga 2k21 because in pga 2019 holding back for 1sec for every 10ft does not work. They should have kept using the same format of game mechanics like in the TGC 2 and TGC 2019 and just add the spin, update the grafX, have a real face scan like NBA 2k21 instead of limited faces and few facial hair and hair styles. I'm disappointed with this game. They made it to have too much settings and the worse culprit is that new swing which gets really bad for me once I set to pro, even calibrated. I find setting the swing off on amateur with off back distance control I get pretty much straight bangers like i did in TGC 2019 but feel jipped that it is on a easier level which will be frowned on a online match game. Thank You for your advice so I can come to grips with the reality of pro settings and its challenges...

[@Early1981]

Yea I fully understand what you are saying. I have sacrificed swing line for swing timing. As slows and fasts on this game are more punished than swing line imo.

[@garrettnobles8956]

My main complaint with this game is how punishing the rough is...any tips? It will say 75%-80. One time you hit it perfect and it goes past where 100% should be other times it lands short of where 75% was suppose to be.

[@Early1981]

I've noticed the same thing myself pal. At the moment I'm just studying the course environment to hopefully get the best outcome

[@rickfrompawnstars5550]

Online Pro Swing is broken, there’s 0 consistency, and the ball is magnetized to the Bunker. Also when I compensate and aim in the trees... that’s the EXACT moment I get a perfect swing. The game feels like your score is forced.

[@Early1981]

I understand what you are saying pal. I've felt that the game wants me to score badly at times lol. I'm sure things will be improved soon.

[@ScientificBeatz]

I'm glad someone else said it. I feel I have the same rhythm everytime, but a different result. And whatever side the bunker is on, that's the side it makes me hit. Also swing speed shouldn't determine a slice or hook anyway. I can still hit the ball straight with a slow swing. That should be determined by the swing path

[@timmcgrath1117]

You seem pretty knowledg ble but this video is old so maybe spmepne who knows can help me It's not clear whether the sticks speed going back and forward too fast can effect the swinging what can I d here

[@Early1981]

I'm releasing a new video of what is in my bag and why. It may help. Stay tuned

[@outback8048]

one thing i can not stand is the vibrating of the stick on the back swing and down swing when putting it is very distracting to me. i think mainly because i'm used to gauging my back swing to get my distance like we used to on tgc 2019

[@Early1981]

I agree. I need to use it for putting though due to the glitches

[@outback8048]

Early-1981 it was alot easier to gauge your back swing on tgc19 for instance i used to pull my putter back to the front of my back toe and that would roughly putt the ball 5 meters and so on

[@klekster12]

Anyone know if you can improve attributes and stuff? It’s getting really annoying only being able to drive the ball like 280 yards and having to use hybrids and woods on most par 3s lol

[@Early1981]

No pal, your attributes are basically the clubs you select and the difficulty settings you choose.

[@klekster12]

Early-1981 damn i already have the best clubs that are unlocked and have it on the easiest setting and my best score on of a tour so far is even par 😂 games fun but so frustrating.

[@davidisrael8537]

I've tried the calibration but the blue line still goes wild. I look at the bar under the golfer and even when I hit the ball in the right place it goes pretty much straight right and that is on beginner settings. I've seen very fast and very slow shots happen with the blue line still straight. So I don't know how to help this. I'm scoring over +10 on beginner as a result lol.

[@Early1981]

Hang in there pal. The game mechanics will eventually click with you. It takes time

[@ogichidaawag3244]

I think the Fast and Slow has to do with how fast your physically pushing the stick forward on the downswing, not power timing. Calibration didn't do anything for me.. I just modified my game play and adapted a consistent fast downswing to where I expect the flight path to be. I've been quite consistent with the benefit of a couple extra yards. It's difficult with a right to left wind though, because the fast swing negates an intentional fade. You can always intentionally hit slow to fight the right left wind though. Swing a round with you if you're on ps4 diefree246

[@davidisrael8537]

@@ogichidaawag3244 ​ @Ogichidaawag For beginner difficulty its not too bad. My scoring ain't great but I pretty much hit the fairways at least. Usually get a bad bounce now on the green lol. I've holed out for eagle and have made plenty of birdies though. Thanks.

[@marczeppieri9075]

Dude thank you for the tip. It has DRASTICALLY improved my game. Thank you!

[@Early1981]

Hey pal delighted to hear that.

[@callmefrog76]

Got this game because it’s free on game pass. The timing is absolutely infuriating!!! RNG at its finest

[@Early1981]

2k21? You should try 2k23 or EA Sports PGA Tour pal

[@SUPERSTROKE333]

It would be nice to get an explanation on the timing from the people who created it because it seems super random at times..people say takeaway speed has nothing to do with the timing but i can take it back super slow and hammer the stick forward and still get a slow or vice versa.I play sim mostly and started with legendary swing and there was a period of a few days where i could hit perfect after perfect shot on the range but on course it seemed super random.Now its just super inconsistent so you cannot even really play for your fast or slow swing

[@Early1981]

I 100% agree. The timing doesn't really make sense currently

[@callmefrog76]

@@Early19813 years later and it still sucks!! 😂😂😂

[@AbleAnderson]

I don't think swing timing has anything to do with when that little bar is shrinking though. I've done swings where I just hold my backswing at the top for 10 seconds and then can still get a fast, slow, or perfect swing. I don't get downswing timing at all, it's all over the map. I wish it was more tempo based and about the transition from backswing to downswing but sadly, it seems to have everything to do with how fast you push the thumbstick upward, not when you do it. You can test this by just holding the backswing for an exceedingly long time to neutralize that as a factor, and then if you jerk the thumbstick up as fast and hard as you can you'll get very fast, and if you calmly and lightly push it up you'll get slow. This is a bad decision on their part imo bc that isn't a place where ppl really have a ton of control over the difference. I'd much rather have the timing be about tempo

[@Early1981]

I fully agree with you pal. The swing timing is so inconsistent in this game. If I was asked to explain how to get a perfect swing I honestly couldn’t explain it. I find it extremely random since the previous update

[@AbleAnderson]

@@Early1981 Yeah it's a shame I wish they would redo it or something, it's so weird. I hate to say it but I've turned it off for now. Maybe I'll revisit it at some point lol

[@pokermax2910]

What bar are you referring to? I don’t see one lol

[@Early1981]

The timing bar

[@chrisdimino1897]

Why u playing from The ladies tees???

[@douglasweston2742]

Hi again Lee, I tried it and it didnt make any difference really, I just found it a distraction. The white area on the top bar is really just the tempo & overswing bar. If you get the tempo right and hit the power exactly 100% then you'll be in that small white area ( which decreases in size as you go up the difficulty levels). If you overswing, say go to 103% power, then that white area decreases in size, therefore making it more difficult to get the "perfect" tempo. If your tempo is out it doesnt matter how big that white area is, you're going to hook or slice. When you see that white area just go fractionally smaller, it indicates you are at 100% power - thats all. It has nothing to do with tempo - however if you can make it work for you, then great. Hittem straight Doug

[@ogichidaawag3244]

I just gave up and modified my game play to adapt to fast swing. Aim shorter and right and I've pretty much got it down now. Hitting near par, I think -4 was my best run yet.

[@SUPERSTROKE333]

and how about that putter animation lol,still after a few games they still cant get a square putter face on address

[@Early1981]

I'm hoping that's fixed in the next patch

[@jp1170]

How about the actual creators of the game make the swing animation realistic first and then we’ll worry about calibrating the swing.

[@Early1981]

Cant disagree with that statement pal.

[@TroyDann]

Yes, putting has been fixed on PS4

[@tat-is4of]

How do u mean

[@TroyDann]

Some players had problems with the back swing including me. It’s been fixed in the update

[@Early1981]

Its improved for me also

[@sloanedgeton3173]

Take the vibration off. Watch your golfer and at the top of the backswing have the same tempo with your downswing. You'll visually start to see trends. I'm in no way saying I'm good at this game. However, I tried focusing on the bar too much and would shank every shot.

[@Early1981]

Great piece of advice. Thanks for sharing

[@solson223]

The online swing (pro) with timing is broken. There's no consistency to it at all no matter what you do. Too bad though because it's a fun game.

[@Early1981]

I hear ya pal. It will be fixed soon I bet

[@HELLBILLYx88]

Thank you for your help subcribe

[@Early1981]

Your welcome. Thank you I hope you enjoy the channel

[@Boneil19]

Hey love the videos! Let’s play a head to head sometime for the channels!

[@Early1981]

Thanks pal. If you ever see me online feel free to join.

[@charlesspechtjr8184]

They need to patch the swing let’s face it! The timing has way too much influence on hook and slice. I’m not a pro golfer but I don’t even have this much trouble getting a real ball in the fairway!

[@Early1981]

Haha yea I find the timing somewhat inconsistent also pal.

[@daves9355]

I had the exact thought tonight when I was playing 🤣🤣. I can shoot 78-82 in real life...but can't break 90 on a video game 🤣🤣

[@tony2169]

Why do you not have a bar in the bottom of your screen

[@Early1981]

I disabled it. I dont like using it

[@tony2169]

@@Early1981 I did not know you could do that thanks.

[@Early1981]

Check out my swing difficulty settings video pal. It may help

[@tony2169]

@@Early1981 I want to try and get good at multiplayer can you tell me what difficulty the game is played on multiplayer online

[@Early1981]

@@tony2169 Multiplayer is set at pro settings

[@LeOssi]

7:17 great shot there! If you want, you can check out my chanel, i upload there also a shot like this. Its just SO lovely when the backspin works!

[@Early1981]

Thanks pal. I will stop by for sure. It's great executing these shots

[@rentonnotner]

I’m never critical of content creators. Respect for offering out tips. But I feel this is a really bad idea and an awful tip , unless people are really struggling and playing on less than pro settings. But if you’re on master and maybe even pro then you really CANNOT afford to shrink your forgiveness and swing plane zones. You should want to try and develop a consistent swing and start your down swing earlier and aim for 95-100% swing power and getting a white % power bar. Sometimes you need a 101% red and a fast swing on purpose to get a few extra yards on a shot for example (and aiming right). But yea bottom line for me in master difficulty is DO NOT reduce your zones! Nothing personal and I don’t like to comment negatively. Keep up the work 👍🏽

[@aeastwood54]

Think you’ve misunderstood, he is trying to time it literally before it starts shrinking. Think of the pulse and the pulse through the controller as a warning ⚠️ he also said at the beginning of the vid that it was important in swing calibration to maintain a smooth swing.

[@rentonnotner]

Fair enough, although his zones in the examples on the round were shrinking still 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Early1981]

I think you have misunderstood my video. I'm not making things harder. It's about looking at the timing meter and using it to your advantage.

[@rackum44]

Sorry but that bar has nothing to do with timing It does not work

[@Early1981]

Yea I tend to agree

[@donaldcaron7752]

That's crap... calibration doesn't work on a PC.

[@Early1981]

How not pal.

[@Yak1312]

Swing back AND swing forward?! Well no wonder my timings been off 🤦. Jk 😉

[@BigB-1]

This is stupid, I uninstalled the game on the training.