Phalanx Triarii and post-Marian Reform Triarii | Modding units in Rome Total War

Remastered Rome is soon upon us so let's look at how to add the phalanx to *any unit - peasants, archers and of course Triarii.
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*Any infantry unit... Sadly an elephant phalanx is not a thing :(

[@thecrazytophatman7304]

The fact that your a primary school teacher has made me smile, thank you

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

It's a mad job but if it means the younglins know how to form a perfect 256 man phalanx then my job is done!

[@reltihfloda7419]

​@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH is it posible to chenge primary wepon or add Like unit that use spers can o chenge it to use sword

[@anthonykillingsworth6697]

Okay, I can confirm that this method for the Phalanx trick for Triarii does not work in the Rome Total War Remastered. I followed this video step by step then double and triple-checked I did it right. Before uninstalling the game, reinstalling a fresh version tried again and got the same result. Edit: Okay... I feel like a total numpty now. I watched your basic modding for Rome total War video right after writing this comment. And yeah... I made the change in the feral__export file and the phalanx fix is working just fine now. I really earned a dunce cap on this one.

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

Glad you got it working. The Remastered thankfully is largely the same when making small mods like this. Happy modding!

[@DraconimLt]

The dagger or sword getting completely replaced by the spear, I presume you need to change SECONDARY weapon as well to say dagger or sword instead of having no weapon mentioned on that line...? As for the Hastati, sounds like you've tried to have them Phalanx while still having the Pilum as the primary weapon, but they can't have both a Pilum and a Pike at the same time.

[@cobrazax]

honestly i would add a SWORD alt attack to them as IT SAYS that they HAVE a sword! they would be awesome troops this way. historically im also sure that sending the triarii as spearmen to fight at the critical moment of the battle...would make no sense vs infantry. they would SURELY use their gladius and we dont have that in game, which makes them useless except as spearmen. they should be BETTER than regular legionaries when using swords

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

Fair point! The game gets upset when I add a side arm and won't load. Not 100% sure why but I'm guessing that the game is unsure how to generate that weapon when it wasn't designed to. I supsect that because phalanx is a formation, the game just works out that a spear is needed! Just a hunch at this point.

[@antoniskoutsoukos9574]

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH this probably has to do with how the unit's skeleton is set up. You can try meddling with the triarii entry in descr_model_battle.txt ;)

[@cobrazax]

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH well try to put the same things as the greek units have...as they do have sword alt weapons i think. but yes maybe its because of a lack of a specific sword graphics that needs to be selected.

[@cobrazax]

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH btw if u got access to remastered RTW, u can do a battle between an army of berserkers vs 7 armies of peasants...DEFENDING A VILLAGE! it would be FUN. hell even without the remastered its awesome

[@giftzwerg7345]

Well spears are awsome weapons in realive, and probably better than swords, as they must have had good reason to keep spears for thier veterans, now one thing is that the triarii come to bear when the pilum and sword has allready failed, so one consideration is probably as a back up, another is that as veterans they can be trusted to know whn to use spears as well as when to use swords, and not just cower behind the range of the spear. Beeing veterans they are also more valuible so, having more range as to not loose thier arms after they have allready proved thier worth in swordfighing mid be one consideration as well. An finaly they are uspoosed to cover the retreat, so hold te line rather than breaking it, and a spear is a better weapon for defence, also the enemy would probably be out of orde and formation chacing the previous lines, so organised spear and shield wall would be unbeatible. no need for the pilum to cause disorder when the enemy is allready disordert.

[@maxgrozema1093]

Will there be a video on adding units to other factions? I want to add the warband unit to the Spain faction. Also, will there be a video on weapon effects like armor piercing?

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

I already have a guide on modding unit Factions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYXOfYCGn6d3eas As for the armour piecing etc... Yes I plan to at some point!

[@maxgrozema1093]

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH thanks for the response!

[@IvicaArmanas]

*Yeeeaaahh! Thanx, Thomas.* *Unit stats need TOTAL OVERHAUL that will make the Game REALISTIC. I mean, PEASANTS often won battles against even the best units in ancient times and in the middle ages (besides Slave revolts in Rome, I remember those Dutch peasants that CRUSHED heavy infantry of Holy Roman Empire, not to mention the Swiss), so it is shameful that they are presented in the Game as some RETARDED CHILDREN. Yes, pro soldiers will defeat them, but not after 5 seconds, man. Or Hastati - you can easily conquer the entire map just with them. Bullshit! They were fucking ROOKIES, novice youngsters with no experience whatsoever! So, yes: TOTAL OVERHAUL is NECESSARY for realistic game play that I enjoy.* *P.S. : I sent you an Email yesterday with some suggestions. Cheers!*

[@SuperVideoman2012]

might be of interest to you as a semi-turtorial channel to teach the peeps that removing the fire_by_rank line from the atributes of gunpowder units in medieval 2 makes them always use kneel fire without requiring you to put them on skirmish mode so you can place them infront of some pikes and have them become a real viable unit. combine that with your previous video of fixing pikes and late game medieval 2 suddenly actually works. (also dont forget 2 ranks deep for gunpowder units for maximum smacking)

[@baggelis_aikaterinis]

TRIAAAAARIIIIIIIII

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

I couldn't resist the sound bite! 😅

[@baggelis_aikaterinis]

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH who can ? XD

[@AnubhavB00B5]

Adored that anecdote about your schoolkids. Looking forward to you getting to grips with the Remaster by Late April!

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

😂 I kept drilling them for far too long... Too many lefties in my class for a decent phalanx!

[@noraandersson7822]

That was too cute!

[@lostvayne3977]

YEEEEESSSSS TYSM

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

No problemo!

[@fatnootz3466]

HOLY COW YOU MADE THE VIDEO LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@slayerk9469]

Can u make more units_size... Plz

[@richardtaylor215]

Victory is almost Sultan!

[@hannahneal1601]

Triarii peasants are my favourite

[@aleaiactaest6503]

6 months from now: "Good evening ladies and gentlemen, I am to nerd is to human, today we will be learning how to add your own factions to the amazing game of Rome total war"

[@eduardosousa9106]

Well from my experience, that video would be at least around 4 hours long

[@aleaiactaest6503]

@@eduardosousa9106 it also requires a lot of art, so yesh

[@santinomunguia3138]

is it possible to do this on medieval total war 2 I would like to try to give the byzantines pike men or make their spear milita pike men

[@MiguelPerez-zx2wg]

Well, it be know the early years of the Triarii used to carry hoplite equipment round shield and long spear, probably influenced by the Greeks living in Southern Italy at the time.

[@mrsandman452]

You Need More Views,Subs, And Likes Thanks For All The Help!!!1

[@BronzetheGolden]

Hey TNH epic video as always Now, will you do a video on how to add the norman, the saxons and the rebels in custom battles in Medieval II also what subjects do you teach in School? Sorry if I'm asking to much questions

[@noraandersson7822]

I second this!

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

Your wish is my command! ;) I teach primary so maths, English, science, geography, history, art music... basically everything! 😂

[@dudee145]

I’ve been waiting 13 years for this

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

😂 Pretty much!

[@aleaiactaest6503]

Does the Thermon line imply an attempt to have a divide et inpera class system? So nobles are a hidden resource in Mainland italy to allow certain units, etc? Also, can you assign the legionary eagle to any unit using modding? I know other factions can steal it from your armies and the senate demands you return it.

[@otomo_3417]

Hello. I know this is off topic, but could not find anything on it. I watched some vids and made the Aztecs totally playable in M2TW, with ships to get to Europe in everything, but they don’t get religious agents to convert settlements, so it is hard to keep new territory happy. I did see your video on changing culture and religion and consisted changing them to Islam, but did not want to change the culture. So is there anyway to give them religious agents, or give them their religion and agent from Kingdoms? Again sorry for the off topic comment, I just thought of writing this on your newest video so it might be seen.

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

I am looking into an Aztec Guide! In descr_character (data) they do have priests listed. What you would need to do is add them as recuritable from an Aztec building in export_descr_buildings. I discuss how to edit this file in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYXOfYCGn6d3eas It is aimed at Rome but it works for Med II as well. :)

[@noraandersson7822]

TRIARII! :D

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

Triarii

[@rubengames4706]

It doesn’t work for me can you help me

[@gavinkwok3285]

how about adding warcry into Triarii 😂😂😂

[@theflyingspaniard6881]

Is cavalry phalanx a thing?

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

It only seems to work if a unit come under the category of 'infantry' :(

[@blazepine]

a little heads up - that sparta resource is a resource like gold on the map, but it is "hidden" and you can't see it. Sparta has it and it only appears there in vanilla. Elephants and camels function the same way for their types of units, except unlike the spartans they're not hidden. if you want to build spartans elsewhere you need to add the resource to a region. Give it a try and see if that helps!

[@hirkamirjohn5696]

See I wish I could make custom "hidden resources" so i could make other units only recruitable in certain cities such as Creten archers in Kydonia

[@blazepine]

@@hirkamirjohn5696 in theory you could though I havent ever actually tried it so I'm not 100% sure how you would go about it

[@flatbat8571]

I was a bit lost for something to do this weekend but now I'm sorted. Couple of heinekens and some Rome 1 modding Rock and roll

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

Take that lockdown! Who needs friends when we have Rome??

[@flatbat8571]

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH one question you might be able to help with is can you add javelins to units that don't have them? So add them to Iberian Infantry or Hillmen for example. I've got an idea but no idea if it will bork my game

[@olwsoldier]

@@flatbat8571 you can, you just have to change their primary weapon type to the same as a javelin throwing unit. look at a hastati or something like that and simply copy paste their primary weapon and set their secondary weapon to whatever you want

[@flatbat8571]

@@olwsoldier good shout! Thank you! I'll test this out

[@olwsoldier]

@@flatbat8571 just make sure to backup your original file just incase something goes wrong, ofcourse if you have the game on steam you can just verify game files and get it back. good luck tho!!

[@hannahneal1601]

Excellent as ever!

[@Scurge237]

So you're saying I can add Gauls swords men to parthia??? Lmao that would be so cool

[@TheAleatoriorandom]

Cool stuff!

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

Cheers!

[@harrysmith3988]

I was born for this moment!

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

That seems a common theme

[@noraandersson7822]

As were we all!

[@indieWellie]

it might be a bit of a stretch, but what about the units like the immortals or the that indian bow and spear unit from the alexander expansion?

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

Any unit classed as infantry this will potentially work for. Its best with simple spear units like triarii but it will work to varying degrees on any unit with the category description of infantry. That includes missile footmen.

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

Immortals may be strange due to their bow but I haven't tested that! Could be interesting!

[@ryangrant9885]

So with this idea in mind it will be an idea to give carthage some archers?

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

You could use the Modding Unit Factions guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYXOfYCGn6d3eas Just apply the principles there to archers. :)

[@ryangrant9885]

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH yeah I got the archers that numidia use onto carthage unit tree, however getting the unit profile card is a bit harder, also im now trying to give carthage Spanish bull warriors as a kind of late game inf unit 😂 since carthage uses sacred band as a hop lite style unit I wanted some close quarters sword unit 😂 proving difficult but it's interesting 😂

[@ryangrant9885]

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH the only downside is unit cards, the archers and the now added bull warrors use the basic peasant unit card and it sucks 😂😂

[@ryangrant9885]

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH thanks for the video it worked a treat :D Roma Delenda Est btw. ;)

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

@@ryangrant9885 Noooo! I'm sure I shoed how to add in the unit cards too. The only thing is the colour will be wrong but for a simple fix I think it more than suffices. :)

[@sebastianellison276]

My game keeps crashing cuz of it

[@sebastianellison276]

Help pls

[@ToNerdistoHumanTNH]

It is almost certainly a small formatting error. It will only work if the unit 'category' is 'infantry', so that could be the issue too.

[@yeiji4315]

i have the same problem. for some reason, just adding the "phalanx" to triarii's formation is making the game crash while loading/starting up. is there something i need to do first?

[@yeiji4315]

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH i found your comment about how adding a secondary weapon to units that didnt have it before is bugging out. turns out i did the same thing kek, its working now thank you, i tried finding a mod for this but i didn't know it was this easy to add phalanx to triarii.

[@sebastianellison276]

@@yeiji4315 ikr

[@dragontamer2474]

It'd be really funny if you did a PMS (Pick My Sabotage) Where you make a friend of your play a "perfectly normal" campaign of Medieval 2 or Rome Total War but you just made a massive amount of changes to the files at random. If you're wondering PMS Playthroughs were popular from the community of Fire Emblem players and I just thought it could transpire very well to the total war games :)