Phantom 4 Pro | Tiffen ND Filters | Review & Recommendation!

[@sky173]

I just found your channel and love the material. I hope to see you around again. Great stuff.

[@smcarmel]

I think I speak for all when I say, we miss your videos!!! Please don’t stop!

[@FrederickHagan]

Thanks for the kind words Sam. I'm trying to think of ways to reinvent the channel since I've already covered so much and don't want to be repetitive. And on a personal note... After my divorce, my free time has been consumed with work and home improvement projects for my new house. Not complaining.... I'm a fortunate guy for sure. But that's the "reason" between you and me. (And anyone else that reads this!) Regardless, thank you and I really appreciate the support. Clear skies my friend.

[@smcarmel]

Frederick Hagan I’m sorry to hear of that, keep your head up. I got a friend going through that right now as well, not an easy trial. Trying to keep a KZbin channel unique is a difficult challenge. I would love some insight from the setting differences from photos / videos. But that’s just me, no need to make a whole video for that single purpose. PS: the tiffen filters were too bulky, DJI filters seem to be the best in my opinion

[@johnnyhauan5896]

Really miss your videos Frederick! Would love more videos on drones, like an example of how you configure your drone on a sunny bright day or in the evening. Sharpness levels evening compared to bright days and so on :) You are really the best source for anything camera/drone related :D

[@skyflow_kreative_imaging]

Hope you're okay man. Haven't seen a video from you in years. Used to watch your stuff all the time. Really good content. I hope you're doing okay in life. Maybe we'll see you around sometime

[@lauromrcruz]

Frederick, thanks for sharing such good recommendations with us, we love your channel, please keep it up!!!

[@FrederickHagan]

Thanks for the kind words, Lauro.

[@matwom]

hi mate,, would love to see some more videos from yourself , cant understand why you stopped ? great vids

[@SteveSmith-tp4mn]

Frederick, it's been quite some time since your last video. I hope all is well and you can make new content soon.

[@user-xm8sq1mu1c]

Hey Fredrick it’s been a year since you posted a video everything good buddy? Loved your tutorials very informative

[@HalStaniloff]

Awesome Fred! Nice work. Glad to see genuine prosumer stuff for the P4P on the market. 😊👍✨

[@DavidAnderson-vt8iq]

Excellent and about time. Hopefully we will get a high quality polariser next.

[@williamconnell6541]

Thanks Frederick,i just got my P4P and also just ordered the Tiffen filters :),thanks for your review,cheers.

[@WaaProductions]

Yea!! SRP has always had some of the best filters in my opinion. I usually have not been impressed with Tiffen filters on my I2, so glad they worked with SRP

[@enjoytheride-p7z]

I hope you're fine, it's been a long time since you've been posting anything. kind regards; Olivier

[@RMSVideo]

Great stuff Frederick!! I had a Polar Pro lens pop out on me as well. Fortunately the glue they use remains sticky enough to pop it back on. These things are delicate!!

[@tagemathiassen]

Frederick where are u?? Really miss all ur videos, and now with the mavic 2 out, would love to see ur oppinion on it.. please start making videos again

[@michaeldehart648]

I hope to see more from you soon! Thanks for sharing...

[@Josho4]

Awesome! Hope they come out with filters for the Mavic Pro!

[@FrederickHagan]

I dont' believe they are unfortunately, Josho4. But I'll soon be doing a video about some great Mavic Pro ND's (With a discount code for subscribers!)

[@Josho4]

Unfortunate indeed. Hoping to expand my business to be able to justify the cost of purchasing a P4P or the next Phantom. Many thanks!

[@GeoffreyGreene_au]

Hey Frederick, haven't seen any videos for a while ☹️. I have watched all your stuff since the Phantom 3 days. I've learnt a lot from you about many aspects of shooting and post. While I now shoot mostly with the Inspire 2 and sometimes Phantom 4 Pro, I miss your stuff down hear from Australia. I know these can take a lot of time to peoduce, but even a few tricks of the trade in post production or technical stuff - keen to hear from you. Your stuff is great to watch and you do a fantastic job. I trust you are well. Geoffrey from South Australia. 👍

[@FrederickHagan]

Thanks for the kind words Geoffrey. I've been doing fine, super busy at work and trying to think of new videos for KZbin. I've covered just about everything I can thing of! Any suggestions? Thanks again and I hope as is well in your part of the globe!

[@atomterrible]

What causes the polkadot flare at 4:04? I've seen cheap phone cameras do this.

[@FrederickHagan]

atomterrible unfortunately this is a side effect of a camera lens system that isn't exactly "top-of-the-line." I'm not a fan of the massive star shaped lens flare that the phantom 4 pro has but it is what it is. ;)

[@mlewis2293]

Hi Fred, just wondering if you are ok. Haven’t heard anything from you/your channel in quite a while. Hoping you are well. Cheers✌🏻

[@bcdvideo]

Awesome review! Thanks!

[@yetinestfilms6806]

Thanks Frederick, do the filters come with that pouch you show @1:51 or any case or pouch at all?

[@FrederickHagan]

Thanks for the comment. Yes the filters come with the pouch shown in the video! (The set also comes with a Polarizing filter!)

[@scatdaddi3927]

great info and the clips quality are amazing...will there be any for zenmuse X4S????

[@CDigata]

Funny you should say that about the DJI filters, ive had 1 pop out and now use a cleaning cloth on the inside while cleaning the outside for support of the others. i also have a set of polar P`s but cause a tad of camera vibration/shake no and then, is it possible for you to post the weight of a tiffen ND8 to compare?

[@mickspawn]

thanks for telling me this when yesterday i purchased the Polar Pro ND filters :( Fred do you have a guide on gimbal settings for the p4p?

[@smcarmel]

I just picked up these filters, about to go use them, will let you know what I think! I hope that they come out with a ND32 for bright sunny days, well see if the ND 16 is enough.. Enjoy the videos keep em coming! :D

[@FrederickHagan]

Awesome, Sam. Yes please let us know your thoughts!

[@smcarmel]

Frederick Hagan you know, I really like them!!! They screw on nicely, no more loss of metal on my threads from the other set of polar pro filters. Only wish they had a 32 for going directly into sunsets.

[@P3T3R0U1]

Miss your vids. Hope all is well in your world!

[@FrederickHagan]

Hey thanks for the kind words. Been working non-stop for the last couple of months. I'm trying to compile a list of new vids to start working on as week speak. Thanks for touching base.

[@Bobster986]

I had the same problem with glass popping out of my original UV filter. I contacted DJI, sent them a picture of it and within a few days they shipped me out a new one. Tiffen is a great company, I have a been using there products since the mid 80's, but even though DJI's filters are made cheaply (it's like there is nothing more than a thin layer of plumbers putty holding in the glass), strangely their ND filter glass really produces a crystal clear image with not color shift. The other nice thing about them is that they can stay on when you reinstall the lens cap/gimbal lock. Not to mention, they match the camera color nicely and are perfectly balanced on the gimbal, but Fred, what was that glue you said you used on your? Maybe I should add some just to prevent mine from falling out again. 😉

[@FrederickHagan]

Bobster986 I used tiny dab of super glue gel. That said I wouldn't recommend it.... the chemical in the superglue discoloration the areas on the glass around the gel! Kind of left that oil on water rainbow effect of the lens.

[@matwom]

great video again ,,, have you ever graded any slog 2 video ? if so have you got a video of it on youtube ? keep up the good work .

[@FrederickHagan]

Thanks, mat. I have graded just about any type of footage from any camera. But sorry to say I've not done a tutorial on differs footage types. Hmmmm.... maybe I should?!

[@matwom]

hi mate i would love to see a video on slog2 sony ,,, iv recently switched brand of my camera from canon to sony on suggestions and results from my photography colleagues . i find my new sony camera gives way better results than my old canon camera and the video results are just fantastic ,,,, i do mainly landscape photography and have in the last year started taking video footage,,, i can relate to your videos as they are of beautiful landscape shots and your videos and Technics are just great help ,, would love to see a video on slog 2 sony ,, keep up the great videos .

[@muntee33]

Love ya channel mate. When's the next series kick off? PLEASE, PLEASE cover gear from other manufacturers. Fox tech have a vid on a camera platform from tarrot(?) that's similar to dji's c

[@frederickfitt6241]

Thank you for your videos Frederick. Have you tried the polar pro cinema series vivid collection of ND/CPL filters yet?

[@FrederickHagan]

You're most welcome. Thanks for the comment, Frederick.

[@PKmode]

Also, what picture profile or setting are you using for the camera? I don't use the D-log because of the ISO500.

[@Gallacherboy]

The last few clips at the end are cool but I am curious to know what they dark corners are on all 4 corners?

[@FrederickHagan]

That's a vignette I created in the color grade to pull visual focus to the center. (The filters DO NOT vignette your footage.) You have a good eye for detail!

[@MrErikdoe]

How did you make the footage without and with filters? Did you put the filters on in software?

[@DroneDad]

Thanks for another great video Frederick. I have a question that I am sure has been asked but didn't see it, so maybe it's worth a video? What about using a drone/filter for the upcoming for the solar eclipse coming up. I have a PHP4+ and like the idea of not necessarily facing the sun itself, but maybe up and capturing the casting of the shadow. Thoughts?

[@FrederickHagan]

The Drone Dad thanks for the comment. Unfortunately I think ground shots during the eclipse will simply look like dusk or dawn. But it's a killer idea!

[@goldenoptic7295]

Thank you Frederick, Does the gimbal guard fit the aircraft with the filter installed? I'm using polar pro filters, I love them but they have to be removed before fitting the gimbal guard. Take care friend.

[@FrederickHagan]

S Hass no I'm afraid they must be uninstalled to put the gimbal guard back on. Thanks for the comment.

[@kevinhudson6256]

Just carve the round front part of your stock gimble guard off with a Dremel Tool. And your done. Your ND doesn't need that front piece while it's sitting in a case or even outside a case tbo.

[@FrederickHagan]

Nice idea. Thanks for the comment, Kevin.

[@kevinhudson6256]

Absolutely Fred! First thing I did on my P4 and P4P when I got the Polar Pro's! 79.99 is great on the Tiffens btw. So I see it has an 8, 16 and a polarizer in the set. 8 and 16 is almost all I ever use in daylight anyway. Did you say your clips here were graded from d-log footage?

[@FrederickHagan]

I shot these in Cinelike. -1 Sharp, -2 Saturation, -3 Contrast

[@arizonaaerialproductions6390]

Hi Frederick, awhile back you were very passionate of the Sandmarc line of filters. How do Tiffen and Sandmarc filter compare to each other?

[@FrederickHagan]

Arizona Aerial Productions thanks for the comment. The Sandmarc filters work fine BUT in my humble opinion...you can’t beat the optics of Tiffen glass.

[@billteter142]

Do they plan to make an ND4? Reason I ask is that it seems like the latest firmware update from DJI has desensitized the sensor at least for some color profiles. I like to shoot in D-Cinelike at 1/120, FHD @60fps, and ISO 100 and aperture around 5.0-5.6 with an DJI ND8. Since the last update I've had to open the shutter all the way to 2.8 and increase ISO to 200 just to get to -.3. I haven't checked other profiles. Has anyone else noticed this?

[@williamconnell6541]

Also,please excuse my ignorance, but have you done a video processing from start to finish? i mean i am very new to drones but familiar with lightroom and photoshop.So when i remove my SD card and put it in my reader will the above systems recognise DGI products?

[@FrederickHagan]

William Connell yes the camera shoots and jpg or raw (which is the same format is in the other camera) so you shouldn't have any problems.

[@daveeverett9341]

Thanks, and great to see you back again, Fred! Being a 50 year veteran still photographer it's super to see that Tiffen is now producing UAV camera filters. I'm currently using PolarPro on my P4P and Mavic, as well as Typhoon H. What still astounds me is why even Tiffen is including a polarizer! By what means can we adjust these in the air to fine tune for each direction of flight? ...and if we don't like the results, then good luck removing in post. I'd much rather they sell a full set of ND4-16....

[@FrederickHagan]

Thanks for the comment, Dave. These are great questions. Because of the very nature of HOW a polarizing filter works I rarely use one. I can get the look I want in post so I really don't mess with them much.

[@TiffenCompany]

Hey Dave, thanks for your comments! We included the Polarizer in the set mainly for photographers and cinematographers looking to take advantage of everything a polarizer offers. This will dramatically help with reducing glare off water or metallic surfaces (something you can't do in post production editing).

[@Ashkyousefi]

Do you guys also make them for the Mavic?

[@kevinwalters9577]

Fredrerick.....I just ordered a set of these Tiffen filters mentioned in your video, the ND 4, 8 And 16 + PL for the phantom 4 ....quick question, I have the P4P...will they fit the P4P? Iam thinking I read somewhere the threads between the P4 and P4P may differ...thanks and thanks for all your videos. Update....received the filters today...they DO NOT fit the P4P, the threads are different...they need to make this known, so others know this before they order!

[@matwom]

hi mate silly question but is there anymore vids coming up ? we miss you dude , your vids are the best

[@FrederickHagan]

mat matwom Hey I really appreciate your reaching out. Been super busy with life after my divorce, buying in setting up a new home, working etc. etc. Been trying to think of some new videos to do lately since I’ve covered most things. Any suggestions are warmly welcome. Thanks again for touching base.

[@3treesphotography62]

Have not seen you for a while. Hope all is well!

[@PKmode]

Have you tried the FreeWell set? I just got them and now feel like I should have waited as I use Tiffen often with my DSLR lenses.

[@FrederickHagan]

Never tried them, PKmode. Let us know what you think of them please?

[@BrianKushner]

Just bought these filters and I'm a bit concerned about the weight. When using they are causing tilted horizon that I don't have without the filter. They are heavier then Polar Pro which are metal and that puzzles me.

[@FrederickHagan]

Brian Kushner thanks for the comment, Brian. Try doing a gimbal calibration after installing the filter. I have no issues with mine but I also do this calibration before each new day of flights.

[@BrianKushner]

Frederick Hagan will do Frederick. Love the filters.

[@Theeslickness]

I know you addressed the weight concern, however I still think its a bit necessary to add a counterweight. I've built 3-axis gimbals, and it is critical to have good balance to allow the motor to handle wind and extreme vibration. So I think the solution is to use some Dual Lock (like velcro on steroids), and add a 2-3gram lead weight. It can be easily removed and even repositioned. I'm going to buy the Tiffen filters, and try to counterweight it.

[@darrenr1973]

Hi Frederick, thanks for the review! Do you know if these filters cause any vignetting when used for still photography? I know my previous SRP filters for my Inspire 1 did, which forced you to crop in post. Thanks again mate!

[@FrederickHagan]

Darren Reichel thanks for the comment, Darren. There is no vignetting whatsoever with these new filters!

[@darrenr1973]

Thanks for confirming Frederick, I appreciate you replying. Keep pumping out your brilliant and honest vids!

[@andrewclark3499]

Nice review, Filters are worth for photography i have freewell ND filter and they are good too.

[@FrederickHagan]

Andrew Clark thanks for the comment, Andrew.

[@MasteringHow-To]

Too bad Hoya doesn't make a filter for the p4p

[@biscuitsalive]

Hi Frederick. I appreciate your previous feedback to my comments. I have just finished a initial review on the P4adv+ and I would REALLY love your input on it, are you getting the same problems I am?? I won't post a link here as thats a bit rude, but i would genuinely like to have you thoughts on my app crashes and input lag mid flight.

[@FrederickHagan]

biscuitsalive I was having these issues moderately. But I deleted the app entirely from my iPad then reinstalled it fresh. I also replaced the lightning cable and after that I've never had a problem.

[@biscuitsalive]

Frederick Hagan thanks. As it's the built in app into the plus the cable isn't a factor. But I will look into reinstalling the app on the dji screen. (If that's possible) Glad to know I'm not alone with these problems at least.

[@biscuitsalive]

Frederick Hagan did I explain I had just uploaded a video on the subject? Prob didn't make that clear. That explains the issue properly. (Also I did side by sides with gh5 and gh4 in case u were interested)

[@sipapito]

It looks dark in the edges is that normal?

[@bradcarr1364]

Do you find these filters better than the Sandmarc ND filters you reviewed? Could you do a review on the tiffen vrs the sandmarc? Do you see any difference in the vignetting or color shift differences? They are close to the same price but it sounds like the tiffen's might be a bit lighter. Thanks for all your videos you post.

[@FrederickHagan]

Thanks for the comment, Brad. "Better" is always subjective...obviously. Certainly not try to dodge the question but it's true. I will say this - The glass that Tiffen uses is the key IMHO. It's all about the glass. There's zero color shift. There's no vignette. Also the coatings help reduce unwanted glare and refraction. Another tell-tale sign of good glass is if they are easy to clean. Tiffen's wipe clean quick as if brand new. "Cheaper" filter glass is always a dead giveaway because it seems to take forever to wipe them down and get them perfectly clean again. I've used Tiffen and SRP products for years and I will continue to do so with their line of aerial filters. The quality is there. The price is reasonable. Hope this helps.

[@bradcarr1364]

Thanks, Frederick! I thought I noticed some vignetting in the vid. Did you add some to the post? I've used tiffen for dslr photography in the past. I would agree they are a good product & company. Thanks for your input I'll have to take a closer look at the vids. Nice on the quick reply too! Cheers!

[@FrederickHagan]

Yes absolutely. I like to use a vignette from time to time in post color grading to pull focus to the center frame. So yeah that's me... not the filter.

[@bradcarr1364]

Thanks! Agreed always helps to focus. I looked back and the Tiffen do seem to be sharper watching the vids in HD.

[@davidgcorbett3883]

I agree with your observations about the DJI ND's and standard lens cover how they just fall out of the frame is completely unsatisfactory and disappointing. Given they cost $150 a set in Australia I'm pissed off!

[@davidgcorbett3883]

Further to my comments DJI could not even supply a decal marking which ND filter one is using! Attitude problem going on.

[@richardshears9725]

Hi can you do a colour grading tutorial please?

[@FrederickHagan]

Richard Shears hey Richard. Look through my past videos. I've done quite a few color grading tutorials. Hope this helps thanks for the comment.

[@sagrilofotografia3921]

Hi, does the polarizer rotate free after in place?

[@FrederickHagan]

Sagrilo Fotografia yes I believe the polarizing ring does rotate independently.

[@muntee33]

Froze up. Hmm. Any ways. Thanks for the information. Pitched at perfect level for learners like me. Ah, and your little mantra, truer words never spoken. You just need to add in one more at the beginning. Something that captures the essence of trying. And trying again. And again.

[@FrederickHagan]

-IOI- thanks for the comment. As far as “keep trying” goes... this might be a good vid to watch... kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXa0pJqNa92GqNk

[@muntee33]

Frederick Hagan Cheers. Can we expect more content from your channel?

[@brandonspencer3840]

I am extremely amazed by your patience, while teaching we imbeciles.

[@RayBrennanrookwoodproductions]

Are they making some for the Mavic ???

[@FrederickHagan]

No unfortunately they've decided to forgo the Mavic Pro.

[@RayBrennanrookwoodproductions]

Damm.. shame as i would have a set of them, guess i stick with the Polar Pro then...

[@francisgarcia3452]

how do you compare this with polar pro cinema series ND filters?

[@FrederickHagan]

Francis Garcia honestly Francis there is no comparison. The glass, coatings and optical quality is far superior IMHO. Because of the coatings the glass is much easier to clean and stays clean. There's much less unwanted light ghosting & refraction when turning into different angles to the sun. Color rendition is true neutral… Meaning no strange slight shift to the greens or reds. The polar pro line of filters is a good line of filters and they work fine. But they are a beginner level filter. And to be honest I really feel that polar pro never really changed the physical make up of the filters from their already established P3 Pro line… They just gave them a new look and renamed them "cinema series". It's all about perception I guess?

[@francisgarcia3452]

Frederick Hagan oh great thanks man now i get it..and derlin is a very good material too which gives it a plus..will look forward to get those in a week. 💯💯

[@kevinhudson6256]

Wow! When are these going to be shipped Fred?

[@FrederickHagan]

I was told within a "couple weeks." If not sooner.

[@chloejohnson9225]

I completely agree polarpro is nothing but a way to fool buyers with high end words , Specially polarpro making filter with fancy color rings itself proves they do not know anything about filter as black is the best color for filter because it absorb the rays & color filter rings will reflect the ray's.

[@tedwarkentin2211]

Which do you find yourself using more overall on your Phantom 4 Pro, ND8 or ND16?

[@FrederickHagan]

Definitely the ND8. That's aways a good starting point. Then you can look at the exposure to decide if you need to back down to a 4 or up to the 16

[@HoustonBrownPhotography]

Is it me or does it seem that those filters have some serious vignetting in the corners?

[@FrederickHagan]

Houston Brown some of the shots have a vignette added to them and post for more cinematic focus and effect. I can assure you that these filters shoot clean with an equal tonal range from edge to edge.

[@anthonybarton8631]

are you not doing videos that where very good

[@smcarmel]

What is the weight difference from stock to tiffen?

[@FrederickHagan]

Minimal. Couple grams.

[@smcarmel]

Frederick Hagan do you think you will use these or the polar pros? I don't really like the Polars, because of their twisting design. And he copper feels weak. Thoughts?

[@FrederickHagan]

Sam Carmel no as I said in the video these filters have the best optics of any filter I've used to date on my phantom 4 pro. That pretty much says it all for me. Plus with the ring made of Delrin you don't get that metal on metal scraping taking the filters on and off! Nice.

[@smcarmel]

Frederick Hagan for sure, I think I want to order some, im not seeing a 4 or a 32, that's not really enough for sunsets :/ am I just missing it?

[@kleaspop]

Are you out of business ?

[@digitalmedia-timothywillia7376]

So Keith Urban likes Tiffen...there you go