Dr. Jordan Peterson: We Who Wrestle With God | EP286 | The Dr. Phil Podcast

[@garyw4211]

Who else could watch the two Doctors sit there and talk for hours on end?? When truly intelligent people get on a stage, we should be smart enough to sit there and listen like this audience did. Jordan is an absolute joy to behold. He is one of the few people that makes this Canadian proud these days. 🇨🇦💪

[@27jmac27]

Yes, me too!

[@Pari991-y3o]

I’m grateful to live in era that Dr Peterson lives….

[@oliviasamanthashaw23]

Proud Canadian here as well!! ❤🇨🇦

[@Io-Io-Io]

Think for yourself instead

[@deborahvallier9245]

Absolutely 👍 ❤

[@brookswalker6859]

Hard not to appreciate this man. Often you find what you need, where you least want to look.

[@Memmie033]

I am convinced Dr. Peterson is an angel in disguise...

[@colleenshea2293]

I often am as well. He will get top spot in heaven for sure.

[@jg8464]

The world needs Dr. Peterson. Image not having him during BLM, wokism, anti Christian, anti white, etc..

[@antiochiaadtaurum3786]

no

[@tiffaaniamberr4655]

I agree I love JBP been a fan for years

[@jg8464]

@antiochiaadtaurum3786 Yes

[@paradisecityX0]

God Bless Jordan Peterson

[@shannonswift2233]

For those who really think deeply about the Universe, God and how ourselves and others play into it, Dr. JBP is truly a watershed.

[@freeri87]

No.

[@ipredictariot6371]

@@freeri87 eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, is not good for you.

[@ipredictariot6371]

@@freeri87just of mature interest, would you say you disagreed with what Jordan said here? Are you having the responsible adventure of your life? A passion in life? Finding reciprocity with others? Making the proper sacrifices? Or, is it just nihilism?

[@N0THlNG-2-C-H3R3]

Coming of age rituals, naked alone in the woods and afraid. Are you ready to survive?

[@jtjones4081]

“Trump sues Des Moine Register and pollster / reporter.” So much for JP and Phil’s candidate’s belief in free speech. Cancel culture.

[@jeremiahmacclure]

Thank you Dr Phil for giving Jordan more publicity and explaining why his message is so important (and allowing him to do that as well on your podcast).

[@HeartFireSessions]

As a Christian, this is how I have ALWAYS related to the Bible. I don’t understand how this is revolutionary, but I’m super thankful that people are discovering this.

[@anthonybrett]

You're right, it isn't revolutionary, but unfortunately, its been forgotten. It's amazing how much we can lose if we don't pass it on.

[@michael.t.connors8007]

Two great men we need in these times!!!POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!

[@tblair2277]

Mr. Peterson is an interesting and responsible person who should be respected.

[@MisMariaRosee]

My advice to everyone for the end of 2024 is to read book called Your Life Your Game by Keezano🙌🏼I’ve read it, and it truly changed my life. It beautifully shows how connecting with God and your inner self can lead to spiritual growth and family/career success. A must-read.God bless 🙏💟💕

[@riccky707]

l just bought it, thanks

[@Keegan-km2jh]

Jordan Peterson, what a treasure to have in this world. We're fortunate. I feel grateful to have lived in the time of Mr. Peterson. God bless him

[@lyndseeharrison3134]

Love Dr. Peterson. I only understand about half of what he's saying, because I'm not even close to as smart as he is, but I love everything I DO understand.

[@randydiaz1880]

Damn I thought I was the only one that felt that way. He’s the only person I hear speak and I feel stupid .

[@lyndseeharrison3134]

@ glad I’m not alone 😅

[@Mastermindyoung14]

That's an indictment of his ability to articulate esoteric topics. Conversely, Richard Feynman could explain quantum chromo dynamics to a child.

[@HeatherGoolsby]

As you listen to him more and more you begin to understand a little bit more.

[@lisafrazier7143]

Great guest!! Jordan Peterson is an awesome voice of wisdom that our country needs!!!

[@robg5157]

Him and Phill are both Fake doctors and scammers.

[@milokaz2753]

Thank you for having this amazing guest who changed my life for so much better. I will be eternally thankful for Mr. Peterson.

[@damiensandone2000]

I can listen to Peterson articulate gods words all day.

[@EvanWilliamG]

It's really something to see Jordan Refine his craft over the years. I went from watching some of his university lectures when I was really struggling years ago after betraying myself and others to watching him now. He's matured a lot and so has his references to these stories. It's really an amazing thing to see. The message is the same but he's refining his ability to convey them in a more professional, easily digestible manner .

[@kawarthakarl]

Lol..Dr.Phil looking like he couldn't understand Jordan's googlyguck either😅..but I'm sure he gets paid to promote the book! #DumbandDummer2

[@FIghtness1]

We are blessed to have such a thinker alive in our time. I value him so much in my life.

[@jennifersanges5737]

I can't wait until Jordan is Born again and filled with the Holy Spirit. ❤We love you JP. Merry Christmas

[@sarahamaral2931]

He has been…he just doesn’t tell you blatantly.

[@2godbeinfiniteglory]

​@sarahamaral2931 i agree. Biggest public figure ive listened to thats on the cutting edge of truth-seeking, to those that feel like they have already found the truth..they are more lost than they are probably aware of. His honest about his development, his leading a whole generation, and probably wont get flowers for it. What a beautiful sacrifice.

[@lindaa.6916]

Good grief, let that crap go

[@arneedlund8512]

Lets pray for him to be 🙏

[@larryjake7783]

​@@lindaa.6916 no, they say what they say because they have love for him. So no, we won't let it go.

[@Antiochous1stheos]

What a good interview. Thank you dr Phil for listening and making a space for Jordan to articulate he’s thoughts.

[@elisabethcharvet-fiedler1882]

This was such a treat to listen to!! Two of my most favorite men/teachers, etc. I hang on every word!! I always learn something vitally important too…from both of them!!! ❤❤❤❤

[@BoonOrBust]

Good Talk I can see this talking in schools everywhere Congrats Jordan👍 44:36 Phil your on a Roll👍

[@deborahmac.mcintyremcintyr526]

Jordan Peterson is formidable. We who wrestle with God is a keeper.

[@beautifulheart7]

2 great and amazing men ❤❤❤❤

[@SKUNKIE]

Jordan is looking so good! That meat and water diet doing gods work!

[@Reformsqua]

It's TRT

[@JujangoBango]

hes got that hormone/steroid look honestly

[@STREETHEART__]

Jordan Peterson is awesome! He just needs to pray more and understand the Grace of God

[@taniajonathan1019]

You guys are amazing thanks for existing

[@TheOddOddish]

Man, greatest Collab ever!! You boys are the best! My mom used to be your fan Dr. Phil, and lately ive been your bigger fan!❤

[@cayleesmith71]

I grew up w/o a dad. I'm so glad I found jordan. He made me see things and take ownership of so much! It put me back in control

[@judithmoore9174]

Judith Moore These are 2 highly esteemed men. Because everything they share, is good news, common sense, factual, the TRUTH of rational thinking and facts. What a great witness to the goodness and potential of humankind.

[@Dbulkss]

It's extremely important that Jordan is able to articulate these deep concepts in an easy to swallow way or else people will not understand. The child friendship metaphor is solid. Hope he comes up with another.

[@lolapfann7951]

Merry Christmas to you and yours Dr. Phil

[@TheToastwithTheAbsoluteMost]

I’m not religious but I love his work

[@Ki11Th3mA11Kid]

Love how Dr. Phil just sat back admiring the knowledge Peterson was dropping on the crowd and nust nodded in agreement 😂

[@GudakWindblade]

Absolutely love doctor phil

[@craigk888]

Great duo would love to see more content between you two

[@Dakez3112]

Yes this book is beyond great and would (or at least could... As it must be applied) change the life of anyone fortunate enough to take the time to read it.

[@DestinyA83]

Sometimes I wish Dr Phil still talked to everyday people.... I've dreamt about him helping me for almost 20 years 😢 Things are just getting worse every day

[@Paula-us8en]

I’ve been waiting for this!!! Love it!!!!

[@Ann-le5uf]

Amazing! Thank you!

[@Joefest99]

Dr Phil went against the grain recently regarding his cultural/political/psychological perspectives, and it’s paying off!

[@brynnh.4741]

Exactly why he does it. For the money.

[@Joefest99]

@ It could have sank him financially.

[@jessieinthewest]

Jordan Peterson may be an angel in disguise.

[@kerrigrandmaison7844]

Excellent conversation

[@jennymcgowin9140]

Great show Dr. Phil. You and Jordan are always fabulous!!♥️♥️

[@pastorjer6877]

Dr. Peterson is certainly a deep thinker and I love his heart behind his thoughts. What is glaringly missing in this interview is any mention of Jesus. The entire Old Testament by design, was pointing to a Savior. Yes, that's right, Jesus. I'm not sure why 45 min of time could be used in an interview on a platform this large to discuss the deep things of God but God himself not even be mentioned.

[@mycattitude]

God was mentioned. I've been a Christian all my life, and there's a time and place for everything under the sun. I have led people to Christ w/out pushing Jesus specifically on them. When people are confused about which religion and which God to follow, trust God and trust the person, who if their heart is sincerely seeking for the truth about God, that they will find it. I had a good friend, just fresh into becoming an agnostic, after being an atheist for years. His time in NA at least led him to lean on a higher power than himself. He knew I was Christian, and I didn't need to hammer Jesus on him. I simply told him to ask God and it is promised that the way would be made clear. It took maybe a whole week and he came back to me quite excitedly and told me how Jesus being the way, and true son of God, God incarnate had been suddenly revealed to him. Trust God and trust people who are genuinely seeking. You're too rigid, as so many are. Peterson is the atheist whisperer, and so many thousands of hard core, indoctrinated atheists have come back to Christ, or come for the first time because of his teaching.

[@pastorjer6877]

@ You led people to Christ without mentioning Jesus? Jesus is God (John 10:30) That seems problematic. Some folks would hear “God” come from your lips and be misled to believe something else entirely. Some would follow the path to Jesus. Causing much confusion. Why not just share the Good News?

[@sharrodjohnson336]

3:50 Your memories are what you've experience throughout life; Let's not change things here.

[@stephsdlnthms3957]

Fair, but his point still stands. Your memory priotizes experiences. If you're 30 y.o, there's no way you can remember what you had for breakfast on a specific day when you were 10 - unless that day was an important day for some reason, so your mind held on to the details. Unless the day was important to your self narrative. Then the details would be more clear, and the more relevant to your story, the more clear those details would be. This is also why school teachers would teach things in nursery rhymes.

[@sharrodjohnson336]

@@stephsdlnthms3957 Our memories aren't structured as stories but creates the narrative/story itself. Stories are a creation of experiences...or the memory of the life we've lived. You don't tell a story about your life if someone ask you what you ate, you just say "I do not know" or "It was a bagel".

[@theresethomas8831]

Science is based on the faith of the orderliness of the universe

[@supercraftkid5709]

2 of the worlds great wise teachers 💚💚💚😍😍love them!!!!!!!

[@johnpauladamovsky86]

Doctor Phil really really wants to let everybody know that Jordan Peterson is a close personal friend of his. That may be true, but Jordan Peterson once compared me to a young Arnold Schwarzenegger... I will never settle for second best...!

[@melissaparker9144]

I’m just going home and I’m not picking on the boys o😊pooop

[@emibaartstorm]

11th

[@stevewebster3590]

I'd love to see a round table with these two and Dr. Bart Ehrman.

[@lovelightfreedomtruth]

🥰😍💗💖 Thank you. God bless you both and MAHA. God make the world healthy, better than ever.

[@NordsZ]

Amazing Thinker!!!

[@27jmac27]

Wonderful discussion. ❤

[@dee20221]

Loved this

[@jameskostrewa9861]

AWESOME !!!

[@Adanishmagahat]

Dr phil says in one sentence what Dr. Peterson say in 5-10 minutes. 😂. Dr phil makes sense really fast. Dr. peterson elaborate our vocabulary 😉 Appreciate both ❤ But I wonder what doctor phil thinks about Petersons looooong explanations and body language. 😅 I correct my self, 20 minutes in.. I know exactly how Dr. Phil feels about the endless speech from Peterson 😂

[@kahwigulum]

it depends on what you mean by sense, and it depends on what you mean by elaborate you know, it's incumbent upon someone who takes these things seriously, you know, and I mean _seriously_ to, what would you say, _interrogate_ what they actually mean when they use words, when they use speech, or use vocabulary, to use a word that you used. it's important to be specific, man. And I mean, _be specific_ and let people know what you _actually_ think, you know. because lord only knows how much time we can all lose wading in the weeds when we're not specific, you know. and then what are you going to do?! what will you think about yourself knowin' you wasted your time. no one wants to relate to a loser, man, and that's what you are when you don't speak the truth and bring order that is potential inside of the chaos.

[@Adanishmagahat]

@kahwigulum are you the son of Jordan Peterson ✌️😉

[@Adanishmagahat]

Dr phil ❤️

[@marianamach9496]

Love you JP 💕 Ya quiero que llegue mi libro

[@darrellcanning5163]

Not a lot of people who can articulate the word of God in ways that we ourselves miss. All is left to do now is for Jordan Peterson to accept Jesus as God. Imagine what a man of his calibre could achieve if he fully submitted to God. I pray for you brother you will come to know God fully. I respect Jordan he is a great man. God bless you and yours.

[@aleksandarkg]

Amazing!!!

[@Adanishmagahat]

I went to a psychologist... He was talking all the time. Me too, but mine listend.... Two ears one mouth 😊😉

[@-._7]

Christ is King!

[@coreykelly2523]

Christ is a fake man created by the elites to dumb down people. These false narratives have tortured people for centuries and paralyzed their thinking abilities. Wake up and use your brain

[@sylviageorge2287]

Two brilliant minds in one discussion-I admire them both! This has been incredibly interesting and insightful. On a side note, does anyone know the title/artist of the intro song?

[@YatnielVega]

Interview starts at 5:52 You’re welcome

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

That's a sharp looking suit Jordan has on.

[@annettegower2962]

My grandchildren are always sick. When we were children we got sent to play with children with chicken pox etc. I dont really remember being ill i had nore injuries from being daring.

[@aga5109]

I understand more now what Dr.Peterson means. Integration and disintegration of psyche.When we don't allow certain parts of psyche to emerge and integrate, we are stuck in chaos and immaturity, self- destructiveness. Traditional narratives contain integrative elements. But not only this, l think. That's the nature of reality our psyche has to align to in a process of maturation. Biblical stories and incarnation mean revelation. It shows us the real structure of reality. Otherwise, disintegration and chaos, emotional anguish, and destruction of Western civilisation. The nature of reality also contains truth that we are made in the image of God. We co-create and tend to the union in love. If we stop doing it and disown it because a stupid culture that is based on lies tells us so, we suffer tremendous pain and alienation, which is a path to self-destruction. We disown this central image. Disown our real nature. Peterson talks about voluntarily carrying the most heavy weight for you up the hill to develop to the best version of yourself that you can be. I agree, and it is true in life. This process properly happens when we find God and let Him lead the way. We align with the truth and love. Additionally, in Christian understanding, sometimes suffering isn't invited by us voluntarily. We are crushed by unimaginable suffering - which is a part of the reality we live in - and we have no choice or enough strength. Christ is with us in it. Incarnation happened to assist us in suffering we cannot bear and transform it by God's power. It is not God's fault. Men have to have free will to be able to love. Nature is fallen. God took all suffering of humanity on himself and transformed it. Only God can do it. Only God can understand the deepest suffering humans go through. He is not a distant God. He suffers with us. He is in us. He is almighty but also loving, living God. People of other religions think that it is a strange thing that Catholics have Holy Communion. It is not only a sign it is a reality that is becoming manifested. One of the deepest truths about the nature of reality. Also, on bodily level but all the time spiritually. God transforms the reality of suffering of his creation in this process. It makes sense.

[@shaneml1988]

We've got issues

[@luckyjinxer]

Land of Nod- Western culture is so amazing that every single piece of the Bible has so much depth and truth that Steinbeck wrote his mangum opus using that minor mention in Genesis as a direct metaphor... I dont get people who try to sluff off Christianity from Western civilization - you would not have one without the other. How do you see something with such resonance and distilled truth and not see the devine in that? I dont see how, lets say, an eastern culture teaches western history and civilization without a day one assignment to read the whole Bible. It should be a prerequisite.

[@MsSme123]

Good to see Peterson’s face filling out a bit. Healthy. Excellent conversation with Dr. Phil. But there was a lot of advertising involved. Let’s the two big thinkers have a genuine conversation without it being scripted in order to sell a book. Cut the marketing and have more honest conversation.

[@daleoutdoors17]

This was a good interview. I’ve listened to a few of Jordan’s interviews over the years on his journey to spirituality. Only issue I see is that he really is still trying to explain the word of God not in personal relationship with Jesus way, but rather trying to explain what the Bible is in a humanistic way. What I always sense is he’s trying to say. Well in this story , it didn’t really happen but it’s a metaphor. I feel he’s searching and that’s great but he’s trying to hard to have an understanding of the Word without a total surrender to Jesus. You can be a student of the Word and yet not know the Word himself which is Jesus. But at least he’s searching! I hope he has an experience like Saul did. A highly intelligent man who knew all the Old Testament scriptures and law , yet didn’t know Jesus. But when he seen Jesus on the road to Damascus he was transformed and said of himself, he didn’t want to know anything except Jesus Christ and him crucified

[@mR-dc4oq]

Not first but first in the comment section. Being a star in my own life… 😂

[@svantenordstrom]

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[@marcusbou-samra5929]

God wrestled with Jacob. Physically.

[@albarosolis5969]

Only way to believe in our Lord Jesus Christ is for him to open your eyes and reveal himself to you only then can you believe and have faith

[@savannamc407]

Omg I clicked SOOOOOO fast I almost broke my phone

[@marlabeckhastings9803]

Me too!

[@hindsman]

To many ads Dr Phil. I was just getting into the conversation and you injected an ad broke the flow. Very disappointed 😢

[@seanguzy9601]

The only Angel I meant was an immigrant from Haiti. God bless him. RIP Bo. The Philadelphia police murdered him.

[@owenmcintyre9299]

Please examine and investigate Caeayaron and Suzanna Maria Emmanuel

[@thecampcouturebyalexandria1860]

I hope he runs for Canadian president . He’s as powerful as trump and all things good . The world has a better chance for greatness X Please Peterson/ run run run and instill sanity and thoughtful thinking back to humanity and to the Canadian people .

[@alexanderayotte8867]

We have prime minister, and he lives in the US now. Also I would suggest he shouldn’t stoop low enough to take such a position

[@RobertBranthoover]

There's only one person to wrestle God and it was a tie, that's why he was called Israel. But he paid a price Amen

[@valeriefromoregon]

I don’t wrestle with God , he knows best. We breathe because of God. I gave my life to God at age 21 best thing I’ve ever done in my life. I am 56 years old now. Surrender to Christ you will be amazed how much he loves you and will be with you ❤

[@paulsky7943]

Only people without sin can say they don't wrestle with God. And even then, Jesus did a little wrestling ("My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken me?").

[@alexanderayotte8867]

It’s only through conflict that the truth is realized.

[@moroniholm87]

If you don't wrestle with God, you don't change in the Holy Spirit. We're required to maintain our relationship with God's Holy Spirit.

[@MsVito22]

😅😅😅Dr Phil... you become a slug 😂 excellent description 😅

[@mkw777]

❤

[@megaexidor]

Unless his main point of his book is, repent and believe the gospel & go read your Bible & cultivate a Biblical world view. Its not worth the ink wasted to print it. And especially the time wasted, you don't get that back. I like dr Phil & dr Peterson, there're two of the smartest dummies I'm aware of. That goes for anyone who reads this comment. Repent and believe the gospel.

[@onerainiday]

💯

[@TheUtopiaStream]

Be of value, not of use.

[@CodyMiller2]

1st

[@dejesuso4329]

🙏👏❤️

[@H0pe1sG0ds]

💗❤️💗

[@pastorjer6877]

Thats not what "Eve" is defined as in the original Hebrew. "Eve" in Hebrew is "Ḥawwāh" and is most commonly believed to mean "living one" or "source of life". What you have been referring to is actually a description of Eve in Genesis 2:18. The Hebrew name for Eve is "Chava" (Genesis 3:18), derived from the word "Chaya", which means "life", "because she was the mother of all the living" (Genesis 3:18).

[@gwistmaya]

True. Dr. Peterson doesn't know Hebrew and sometimes gets his translations garbled. But the Bible does state that Woman/Chavah/Eve was created to serve as a "helpful adversary" to Adam. So while he mistranslated her name, he was true to the definition of her role, and the integrity of his argument is intact.

[@pastorjer6877]

@ The role of a woman cannot be summarized in one Greek term. The translation for her name is “suitable helper” and we would be misinformed to not fact check when people just say things on KZbin Tube.

[@alexanderayotte8867]

While the statement he makes in this conversation is inaccurate in the manner you are describing he does break it down correctly in the book itself. Likely a semantic error in the moment on his part.

[@amoh5]

As a Christian I think Jordan means well but I think his explanations are kind of over the top in regards to following and believing in God. God is the spirit of divine moral intelligence and truth in how we think morally about ourselves and other people. Therefore, first and foremost our focus should be all about our own moral intuition and compass, aiming high in that regard. I find his illustration about imitating the passion of Moses to be somewhat outrageous and scary especially if you're just working week by week trying to pay your bills, and that alone can be enough drama for most people. I understand there is a potential for people to get out of their comfort zones and find projects that will better their lives and the lives of their community, kinda like heroism, wow!! That sounds like charismatic ambition!!! But I guess what he meant to say was to aim high in regards to being pro-active rather than just lounging around at home getting too comfortable. He sounds more like a motivational speaker than a clinical psychologist, saying to us, get off your backside 😅😂

[@tomgreene1843]

Has he got Iain McGilchrist...?

[@alexanderayotte8867]

Him and JP have a few recorded discussions

[@sjr8140]

Gotta really consider that Jordan is a pastor now if he's going around teaching the word of God 🤨

[@AndromedaLibraria]

Dr Phil does a hard out on his own podcast lol

[@ngt84]

Why we wrestle with god ?

[@anaanna1075]

EDUCATION: teachers are frustrated because parents are NOT teaching children self control therefore teachers are left babysitting and can not teach. When they teach, children are unable to sit still and learn. From LA, CA.

[@antiochiaadtaurum3786]

he'll scramble around stories til the cows come home, anything to avoid reality

[@alexanderayotte8867]

What exactly is he avoiding

[@worktime1143]

As a TRUE Christian, I’m not impressed at all. I recognize Jordan Peterson as being a secularly intelligent man who has not given his life to Christ and obsesses with getting people to see his revelation of Biblical “stories”. Here’s what will happen. Because people have identified him as “smart”, they will go out after him and be misled. IMHO the Word of God is enough and you need NO MAN to explain anything to you. Hence the Word of God tells us that if we were preached another Jesus, we would accept it. It’s happening! Dr. Peterson is being used as an influence in the wrong way. Folks we need to REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND! God is not wrapped up with our simplicities, but we need to get ourselves wrapped up with His holiness!

[@albarosolis5969]

Repent and believe in our Lord Jesus Christ turn away from your own evil ways look at the Law of Moses and understand we broken every law and we deserve hell ask for mercy call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and he will save you