What the Hell is Double Threshold Training and Does it Even Work?

[@nocakewalk]

I'm a Norwegian and I approve of this video. And indeed I am also called Hanssen Johansen Larsen Kristiansen. I particularly loved hearing our beautiful national anthem, and the way you told me you "love the gate" at the end.

[@PhilyBowden]

Haha you are most welcome

[@Zinerun]

Daniel looks like he plays base in a ska band in a Vans Warped Tour band back in 1999.

[@jennierayner2152]

this is so specific and accurate lmao

[@gregoirefourniermontgieux2033]

😂

[@PhilyBowden]

Poster boy!

[@pedroamaral8100]

I absolutely adored Hanssen Johansen Larsen Kristiansen's Science Corner I hope it comes back again soon

[@garnster]

Double threshold, 22 miles. You are definitely a pro. Mere mortal can't even comprehend how much that is. I had to pause to process how insane that is. Cause a 22 mile run is enough to kick my butt so would a threshold day. Together is not just twice as hard but exponentially harder. Us plebeians can only watch in awe :)

[@Pothi90]

What an effort, to change hair color just for the gag to look more nordic when explaining the Norvegian method 😁

[@PhilyBowden]

Haha I didn’t even think about this

[@alisonS4708]

Love the hair, love the new running gear! Love the Grind at altitude!

[@RealFrenchWill]

Your Norwegian Prof is Peak Phily 👌 Highest overlap between entertainment value and educational value. More of this please 🙏 Also very clear now that Double T was a massive contributor to smashing Berlin! Would you do a video revisiting Double T?! how Double T evolved for you over the block? How the volume on that day changed (or not), how your pace improved, how it helped you mentally for Berlin? How should intermediate runners introduce Double T? How your threshold pace compares to your Berlin pace…? Would be great value 💪🫶 Love the Grind!

[@meaganharrison233]

This was my favorite YT to date! I swear you & Daniel just keep outdoing yourselves! Production 👌🏻

[@twobarb]

The new hair kind of makes you look like Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Which I have to admit is pretty awesome!

[@kevinpeterman7127]

Love the science gal. Graphs are much appreciated.

[@rolandhoward8421]

Flagstaff looks awesome. Random big thank you to your channels… your various house diy projects helped to convince us to do a big move with lots of work required but so glad we did it! Just need Phily to come round with her sledgehammer to take out a fireplace monstrosity. Also listened to Ashley Giles saying not to try the removals all yourself, didn’t work out as expensive as I thought and it made things so much easier!

[@PhilyBowden]

Haha this has given me flashbacks thank you 😂

[@macsmachine]

Did I mention that I love seeing Flagstaff and the high country running trails? Lots of memories. Thanks.

[@christinaclementson]

That was a beast of a day! Can’t wait to see how you get on in Berlin. After all this time your videos still make me laugh so much! Keep doing what you’re doing 👌👌🤣🤣

[@markmager1669]

Acclimated!! If you drink Yorkshire tea, it’s Acclimatised. They might not let you back home 😂

[@catjex94]

13 minutes in and I have to comment here already that I absolutely loved the "Hanssen Johansen Larsen Kristiansen" part. I am laughing my ass off haha 😂

[@Kangleicha89]

Love your content..mostly came here to check your training and running advice but lately I stayed here for your satirical 😅 🤟🏼

[@rollmop99]

never mind the content of the video (which is great)- the production is A+++ 🙂

[@Ally_and_Gigs]

Honey wake up, new Phily video has dropped

[@snelson3166]

Daniel please please post a video on your channel. Your viewers miss you we don't care if you are not running everyday we just enjoy watching your daily routine!! Miss you a bunch and the blonde hair is nice. See a video soon?😊😊

[@timverkoyen8742]

Love your content so much. The science part was both hilarious as well as really informative. Keep on being awesomely yourselves ❤

[@IanTravis-ep5st]

On must realise they’ve struck gold with you two. In the words of Carly Simon….. “Nobody does it better”

[@RuddyEdson]

The real slim shady please stand up!

[@ianjones9322]

@RuddyEdson you must be of a similarly astronomical intellect, i made thos very comment 😀 lol

[@RowdyMushMutt]

as a norwegian this one was especially entertaining XD espesially by the end when you told us you love the fence gate :D

[@CryogenicFire]

Phily B the Science Queen! 💥

[@derek_spear]

informative, interesting and in parts completely bonkers. Loved it 🙂

[@Jake-Warwick-147]

New hair who dis?? 😊

[@deec6535]

Enjoy Flag! It’s a fun town. Macy’s European Coffeehouse has great food, coffee, pastries, etc. Best in Flag. ❤

[@amystubby]

Bahaha, just realized you're running through my friends' neighborhood in Flag. Love it!

[@racheldeller4972]

I hope you see this comment. My six month old absolutely loves watching you talk. Anytime the camera is directly on your face and you’re just talking. She pays such close attention. It’s pretty cute.

[@alexpopona]

THE HAIR 🙌🙌🙌

[@tomdavies-fairwaymortgage2075]

Talent more animated, production value better and better, 100k right around the corner!

[@IainThacker]

Saying "No!" to pre-run Granola is something I've learned from you. My long runs thank you for that! Given my normal brekkie is Granola, Skyr and berries... Instant Oats is the Sunday norm now. Looking forward to this week's 5 x 1 mile threshy session although the paces for the last two reps look 'challenging'. Thanks slightly evil coach. Not quite up for a double-thresh day though! I remember watching some of Lucy Charles-Barclay's trining videos and watching her do the lactate testing between bike reps - she used her ear. As a data-junkie I approve!

[@AugherAndy]

What's wrong with granola??

[@IainThacker]

​@@AugherAndy It takes a bit more digesting I guess . Certainly for me and, from Phily's comments on the subject, it's somehting that can lead to mid-run mishaps.

[@AugherAndy]

@@IainThacker thank you! I do feel uncomfortable sometimes after eating it!

[@PhilyBowden]

Save granola for the snack that falls after a run! Haha

[@michaelandereck236]

@@PhilyBowden I nearly had an accident doing some intervals the other day - I think it was some beans from the night before. Would not have been nearly as amusing as Daniel's editing in of that gushing gray [grey] water 😂

[@timothymyszak1163]

Its always a good idea to acclimate to the attitude...

[@MarieAlessandra]

As a Norwegian, I approve this video 🇳🇴✊🏽🤪

[@amber-leighmarvin4996]

Absolutely brilliant science corner section acting and editing 😂

[@PhilyBowden]

Thank you!

[@linab.6586]

get some aloe vera gel to relieve pain under your arms (also good in general for mild burns). Love your new hair.

[@elenie333]

LOVE the hair!!!!!

[@mikestevenson1334]

Best science video ever =D

[@ringspanner]

The Norwegian double chokehold has to be a winner. Eisker Grinden.

[@crashinglikewaves]

Love the doodles on your kitchen whiteboard lol

[@notall1196]

Professor Phily had me rolling lmao

[@liaferguson9495]

You know Flagstaff is only an eleven hour drive to Boulder! A Phily/Allie O Collab???

[@liaferguson9495]

youtube.com/@allie_ostrander

[@martinrollo5540]

great video!

[@Nayz13]

Your hair looks nice! I know exactly who you were impersonating in your Norwegian skit 😂

[@RunningMadeSuperEasy]

Meal between workouts: Almond butter and banana sandwich on gluten free toast. Barney butter and Canyon bake house whole grain bread, both available at whole foods, where it looks like you get your ketchup. My GI tract is the worst, and this stuff never bothers me. Just give it a try...

[@PhilyBowden]

Oooh I hate gluten free bread tho

[@catrionagillen7894]

Hey! The new website is class 👌🏼 Have you deleted the cross training and 10k plans? The cross training one has saved me this year but it says “link not found now”. I’ll be so sad if it’s gone. Also, good luck in flag, you’re crushing it ❤️

[@raychinnn]

Great content, keep it up! I was wandering, what's brand/model of the stretching mat, seems nice and portable?

[@1519Spring]

Halloween costume unlocked! Hanssen Johansen Larsen Kristiansen! The good professor needs to talk next time about untangling multiple variables (distinguishing the effects of coaching, elevation, double T, experience, etc.).

[@MiaKiser693]

I saw on strava you were blond and i was so confused i thought it was lighting but it looks great and also thanks for the info about double treshold

[@cindylouwho88]

What's with the OJ and collagen? Throw is in your smoothie!! Loved the science class :)

[@jonath2908]

«Love the fence gate!»

[@timothymyszak1163]

You both are SPECIAL !!! Almost makes me want to watch your video's. Oh wait... I am watching...lol

[@glen6276]

Yorkshire Tea is the BEST 😃

[@SomethingNick]

Love your videos! I was wondering do you have any advice / know what professional to ask about issues with needing the loo during runs? It’s the number 1 thing affecting my performance 😅

[@robdunne6573]

What a fun video, making threshold training look fun( false advertising 😂😂)

[@seancampbell7884]

Where do you get your running gear? Feel like running tops are boring looking but I like the style of yours. The main reason I bought your merch was because it was a good looking running top. Oh and yeah wanted to support you. Something like that!😅

[@Ally_and_Gigs]

Urm, phily what are THOSE on the whiteboard 9:33

[@williegunn292]

Haha, hard not to notice those, eh!

[@Ally_and_Gigs]

@@williegunn292 gotta love the… hmm.

[@williegunn292]

@@Ally_and_Gigs I always thought that phrase was related to running!! 😲😂

[@Ally_and_Gigs]

@@williegunn292 Bob Ross would be proud of the art, I just wonder whether it was Phily or Dan’s work?

[@massiminimakes]

I am surprised that this is the only comment so far.

[@Nerdalert007]

What is roughly your pace for those 75s recovery jogs? Your last video (90/30s) seemed to be ~6:30 but wondering if these are slower or not. Thanks!

[@CoolInOlympia]

Love your new blonde hair!

[@markbateman9222]

I think the main advantage of these days (ignore al the science stuff) is that, if you add all the warmups and cooldowns to the distance run in the two sessions, you must end up with a pretty big volume day. And because the threshold sessions are basically interval sessions (with breaks between the efforts) a good part of this volume is done faster that you would in a single long run. Nothing terribly new to all this; in the '50s and '60s loads of runners trained on two interval sessions a day, 5-6 days a week.

[@jdoveyk9422]

Can vouch for this also being done in the 80’s and I didn’t even know it was an actual Norwegian thing

[@Biubibibiu]

Phily "norwegian is the easiest language". Also Phily "I´m sorry? El skrr skrr?" 😂❤

[@PhilyBowden]

Hehe only slight sarcastic 😉

[@andyranaway]

Phily!you're a hoot!lol

[@kahlaaja]

Dunno if gelatin, that is used in baking, would be appropriate substitute for the collagen powder for your level of a runner.. : D

[@santiyoutube73]

The cameraman holds these paces very easily I assume :)

[@PhilyBowden]

On wheels yes haha

[@melissaanastasakis1275]

Question! So what exactly does the threshold data from the lab tell you? It gives you an approximate pace, right? But a pace for what exactly? Because (if I understand correctly), your threshold effort is going to change based on the distance. So for example, your threshold pace while running 2mi splits is going to be slower than your pace when doing 800m repeats. Or am I incorrect in thinking that? I'm still trying to learn.

[@saskhiker3935]

Double threshold brutal.

[@jjs5691]

Love the hair and nails! What colour is the green polish?

[@scottybot2003]

I feel like we've missed the opportunity to rename jumbo oats to "Jumboats"......

[@Ally_and_Gigs]

Will there be posters in the next merch drop? 👀

[@margaretblake5051]

i wonder if you would have the same benefit of double T if you did an evening session followed by a morning session. Is there an optimal number of hours between sessions?

[@PhilyBowden]

I don’t know! I believe in Bakken’s blog it says timing between workouts isn’t important provided adequate recovery has happened (subjective), but I’d guess that sleeping between them would be at odds with having distinct hard vs easy days?

[@adriaantermors8122]

Looking good out there Philly! Or was that Philippa "de Niro" Bowden talking to herself in the mirror? Also (holiday) greetings from Norway!

[@tyrinaveronica1165]

Love love love the blonde hair!!!

[@Stevenc1984]

I had assumed the blonde was a tribute to the Romania 1998 World Cup squad.

[@ryandiparisi]

Are you a full time runner? How do you have time to do two sessions per day? Do you have a home based business or do you work remotely?

[@PhilyBowden]

@@ryandiparisi I’m a professional runner, content creator, and running coach - 3 businesses that I get to work around my training schedule

[@fpupesh]

a lot of ON things 👀

[@Naniso]

Was looking for this because I saw it and was like, am I an easy marketing target for noticing😂

[@dbracer]

@@Naniso Was the same in the last video. Presumably they're her new sponsor, but I don't recall any statement.

[@sparkles877]

They're her new sponsor. There was a statement put out. It was on her Instagram iirc

[@goggleboy2464]

rice with ketchup! You have no idea how much crap i get for doing that. Another great one is egg noodles with butter, parmesan and ketchup

[@littleleafy]

Did you get some purple shampoo or whatever it is that blondes use to control brassiness? The color is so good! Love it!

[@PhilyBowden]

Purple toning hair mask did the trick!

[@KilroyWasThere]

Didn't realize Ollie Hoare is actually british

[@m.ch4rmaland3r10]

I have to try that tomatoe sauce eggy rice.

[@jeffpicken5057]

Body Glide and Vaseline are common for chaffing, but take a tip from the ultra running world and try diaper cream. It works well and absolutely doesn’t rub off. Might make your running gear a little harder to clean.

[@_Tp___]

I've heard that you can buy "Udder cream" in bulk (for cows) and it works the same as chaffing cream.

[@PhilyBowden]

Diaper cream?! Wow will find some - any particular brand?

[@jeffpicken5057]

@@PhilyBowdenBoudreaux’s Butt Paste is a favorite of a friend of mine. If you’ve ever used zinc oxide on your nose for sun protection, this is much the same stuff. Use a wipe or Kleenex to apply, as it’s hard to get off your hands.

[@jeffpicken5057]

@@_Tp___isn’t udder cream more of a lotion for chapped hands? Not sure that would help for chafing.

[@_Tp___]

@@jeffpicken5057 "TriathlonDan" made a video about it as a cycling chamois cream replacement which is used to stop chaffing.

[@abernardes2]

Hey Phily! How many times a week do you do straightening training with the band?

[@oliverbell1258]

Is your worth a double threshold even if you usually only do a 4 mile threshold a week? I need to run more miles

[@goggleboy2464]

are using the cloudsurfer for training?

[@christopherbrand5360]

The pressure of making the post-session smoothie… that was >12mmol/L

[@rubarb1275]

Any update on what Daniel is up to? Has he given up on his own channel?

[@BroDuke1]

How accurate are the garmin watch lactate threshold levels according to pro runners, I wonder 🤔

[@timothyfranklin4808]

Can't get Yorkshire tea in my local Tesco's in Northern Ireland anymore 😭

[@PhilyBowden]

Gutted for you :(

[@meghanpetersen9705]

A lot of ON gear … is there a new sponsor ?

[@brendanconnelly5610]

Dang, Joe Burrow’s influence stretching into the running world.

[@ianjones9322]

Will the real slim shady please stand up 😂 matching hair, cute.

[@daveswitch22]

Slim shady on the camera!

[@philipperoy6130]

I think she's sponsored by ON now... wild guess but i'm gonna say it hahaha

[@marcelopoku-owusu3723]

Thank you! Was looking for this comment and can't believe it was made only an hour ago. Thought something was gonna be mentioned in the actual video as well hahaha

[@josteinholen1312]

Blummenfelt eats rye bread with Nutella between workouts.

[@Lily-dg4wd]

Hi Phily ❤❤ first ❤❤❤

[@plantbaseddietandfitness2677]

try taking the egg out, rice is very easy to digest, eat protein after the second workout, and dairy before the session?? I would try it without that as well. your blonde hair with the dark roots looks very nice however.

[@PhilyBowden]

This actually work very well for me, my pre-race meal is always overnight oats or porridge (with dairy), feels great on the stomach for me!

[@bbjunkie]

8:45 never trust a fart. Pro runner tip #69

[@2spoons]

Hey Phily... hope you're keeping well and just two questions, your arm band is it like my HR chest strap, and any feed back or can you do a review as I'm dying to see if they are any better ??

[@PhilyBowden]

Yeah it’s the same but it’s rechargeable so no button batteries, I find it more comfortable

[@feherpatricia6860]

Did you say your second double treshold was before your period? Are you doing an update on that?

[@irawhitlock1084]

Ice cream sandwich is king of foods

[@ShannonQuirke]

🤘