Physician Wanted for $70M Fraud Disappears After Boat Collision | Dr. Marvin Moy Case Analysis

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I learned about this as a cautionary tale in grad school. Your renaming of his boat is hilarious and on point, as per usual. Merry Christmas to you and yours, Dr. Grande 🎄

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[@jamesparlane9289]

My hunch is that he had another boat on board or nearby and got on that before scuttling the main boat. The other person on board has been paid handsomely to keep the faith while the fraudster is now recovering from facial surgery in Thailand.

[@lorilee1931]

I was also thinking he had another boat waiting.

[@ellenolsson3703]

The other person could have died though. and what about the boat? It's hard to plan getting struck by a vessel.

[@sarahalbers5555]

Good theory.

[@lorilee1931]

@@ellenolsson3703 maybe there were more people involved? He did have the money for it.

[@10HDFLHX]

I don't believe there was another boat. I don't think he ever got on that boat. He met Max somewhere, gave him his phone (for tracking purposes) and then disappeared. Let me add this, I knew Marvin personally from many years ago. He has always been a "shady" person despite what some others have said about him. He even managed to get me in a bit of trouble in my youth.

[@andreasrau2161]

Good morning, Dr. Grande! It's good to hear that Dr. Moy survived pancreatic cancer. All of the people I ever knew who had the disease died of it. As for Moy's disappearance when he was shortly due to appear in court, too many coincidences are too coincidental. That's from "The Flintstones;" I only quote from the best. I believe that he stage managed his disappearance, had secreted money away with this in mind, and left the poor schnook he took on board with him to tell a tale of him drowning.

[@rockhard9369]

He is intelligent, but also a big shot, risk taker, so I am not surprise, he calculated and planned his getaway.

[@marymcquaid7291]

There are some doctors in the U.S. and also in Japan who have tried ivermectin on pancreatic cancer, with success. These were patients who were considered beyond hope.

[@thelogicaldanger]

@@marymcquaid7291 ivermectin does nothing for cancer (or Covid.) I am sick of snack oil salesman with snake oil remedies.

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[@williamrichardsonjr9731]

Superb analysis and insight as always! Your work has really helped me understand the "why" pertaining to human behavior. Thanks!

[@Jared_Wignall]

Very interesting story. Thank you for covering this. Keep up the great work Dr. Grande and I hope you had a great Christmas!

[@4MAGA]

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[@figplucker3052]

This reminds me of the boat incident involving Nathan Carman and his mother. It would be interesting to hear any thoughts on this subject

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[@davidwartski7213]

What about the substantially larger vessel? Did that sink, too? Surely someone would have reported the boat and its occupants missing. Authorities might have put those pieces together. But that's just a shot in the dark. By the way, "Max & Marvin" would be a great name for a buddy movie.

[@LA-hj2jo]

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[@jackiegrice714]

You often get to see people’s true character in response to adversity. Looks like Marvin came up short. Thank you for covering this Dr. Grande.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

True. As did the woman he married.

[@georgehasleftthebuilding6621]

That sounds like a "Sure Jan" explanation to me lol

[@jeanetteshawredden5643]

???

[@georgehasleftthebuilding6621]

@@jeanetteshawredden5643 The Brady Bunch is an older U.S. tv show. The "lies badly about obvious truths" sister is named Jan.

[@scottdiamond74]

Those emergency beacons are activated when submerged in water. There's literally a Coast Guard station right there. It would be interesting to know how long he was in the water. They may have been there so fast that he didn't have time to open the life raft.

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Dr. Grande, I hope you had a great Christmas!

[@bunbun4037]

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[@marymcquaid7291]

I am really at sea over this case. If Marvin wanted to kill himself, why go to so much fuss, even putting someone else's life at risk for no reason? If Max's story was true, why wasn't the collision reported by the larger vessel? To me none of the alternatives sound likely. But the fact that Marvin was nowhere in sight immediately after the incident makes me feel that he was never there in the first place. Maybe Marvin paid Max to go out in the boat alone, and then Max fell asleep. But that doesn't explain the unreported collision.

[@meanmole3212]

Because Marvin was operating the bigger boat and did not report the collision.

[@bevbag2715]

Sadly, this wouldn't be the first collision of a large vessel to collide with a smaller one and continue their trajectory as if nothing happened. There is video footage this very thing occurring, one large vessel pummeled through a Coast Guard ship and kept on their course. Marvin Moy was very generous and kind to his friends. Please be kind to his memory. He would not intentionally risk Max Wong's life (or anyone's life for that matter). Also, it is very easy to disappear at sea and also, often difficult, for helicopters to spot a human in the ocean. The water temperature was about 63 degrees that day which is cold enough to begin to loose dexterity. I highly doubt that his friend would risk his life in some sort of planned escape.

[@ojgsk8ter]

Exact same reason people commit hit and runs in cars. Maybe the person piloting the larger vessel was afraid of getting sued, losing his job, etc if he owned up to the collision. Maybe he wasn’t following proper procedure or he was intoxicated and was worried he’d be arrested if he admitted to causing the boat collision. Lots of reasons someone might not report it.

[@BYAH808]

Very interesting case. Thank you for all of the excellent content!

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[@LawyerMysteryMaven]

I’ve been researching this- really appreciate your insights on this one! Thank you!

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Outstanding humor. Always interesting. Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲

[@dawnrobbins5877]

"mugshot" 😂 Marvin could have asked five people to join him on the boat believing that none of them would be able to accept his offer, but to his surprise, Max took him up on the offer. Marvin could have given Max something in a drink causing him to vomit and fall asleep.

[@irinat9521]

Pancreatic cancer is a death penalty, 5-6 months left to live. He is too active for a cancer victim

[@10HDFLHX]

He had a whipple procedure in 2009 as a result of the cancer. They basically cut off part of the pancreas. He recovered. Ironically, his mother died from pancreatic cancer in 2012

[@brianeaton9046]

I’d put money on Marvin is currently practicing medicine in China.

[@tinageorge8058]

I said the same thing

[@sheilagravely5621]

Or Mexico.

[@10HDFLHX]

He doesn't speak Chinese, and in fact, sounds like any other New Yorker. He was raised here. He visited once, and felt completely out of place.

[@spicyirwin5835]

Covid?

[@LaniLanilei]

@@10HDFLHX Is his mother and father Chinese? Do they speak Chinese.

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[@jwarchild7072]

“Pain endurance‼️” 🤣🤣 Great video, and I agree, theory 1. Merry Christmas Dr Grande!

[@nimsa2000]

Hello 👋 good Dr. Grande . Appreciate your hard work 💜

[@cottontails9003]

Good morning Dr Grande. What a strange situation. I personally believe he put an end to his life. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis, tragic outcome and informative topic.

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Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 Thank you for another great video!

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Thanks Dr G - Happy holiday's 😊

[@humbull]

Let there be peace on earth 🌎

[@bthomson]

We had a poster in our dorm room that read " What if they gave a war but nobody came!" Always liked that!

[@merson812]

Best of luck Marvin, wherever you are. ✌️

[@MKPrive]

This is most definitely going to be a future Unsolved Mysteries episode. AIS radar would’ve revealed a potential vessel strike, yet no such vessel was ever found with damage by USCG. Since no exact collision location can be pinpointed, only a slick, using any sonar to reveal the boat at the bottom will be similarly difficult to find. The most curious thing is all the cargo vessels in the area were not found with any damage.

[@bevbag2715]

A large vessel striking a tiny fishing boat likely wouldn't have any damage to the boat.

[@tinageorge8058]

I love this channel

[@Old_Indian_Trick]

In most instances of collisions at sea the sunken vessel is examined/photographed by divers. Maybe this hasn't happened yet, but it could obviously help determine the cause the sinking and prove or disprove these theories.

[@vladimirputindreadlockrast812]

To my ear, it sounds like the boat was lost at sea. It's extremely difficult to believe that, for any amount of money, you could talk me into floating at sea until the Coast Guard might--if I'm lucky, save me. Even if the timing of the fishing trip was planned to coincide with Marvin's court date, nothing of the aftermath of the rescue sounds like a planned escape. Where's Marvin? Where's the boat? Did Max just "play along"? I think this is a case of unfortunate coincidence.

[@bevbag2715]

Yes, thank you I agree. As I stated previously: Sadly, this wouldn't be the first collision of a large vessel to collide with a smaller one and continue their trajectory as if nothing happened. There is video footage this very thing occurring, one large vessel pummeled through a Coast Guard ship and kept on their course. Marvin Moy was very generous and kind to his friends. Please be kind to his memory. (Some of the comments on this thread are disgusting). He would definitely not intentionally risk Max Wong's life (or anyone's life for that matter). Also, it is very easy to disappear at sea and also, often difficult, for helicopters to spot a human in the ocean. The water temperature was about 63 degrees that day which is cold enough to begin to loose dexterity. I highly doubt that his friend would risk his life in some sort of planned escape. If they had planned it, they most definitely wouldn't be 25 miles off the shore - way to risky.

[@zenawarrior7442]

Another strange case. Agree with your analysis, just like a shot in the arm haha. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛

[@colinbyerly5212]

The questioning of the others who had turned down the fishing trip . May of provided much more information about the trip and it’s outcome . Why they had refused and how often and what connections they had to the doctor. And any of his past under the table money transfers . And the type of mindset or verbal or visual body clues that may add to any suspicious behavior . As well as others who may of gone on trips as well . The working crew or those were the normal working crew that had been taken . And how many crew members had the good doctor taken with him on the fishing trips before . And had they seen any dangers before that may of even had the past crews may of had observed or caused them to avoid taking such fishing trips. As well as the past areas of fishing and any documents or verbal locations of past fishing locations . And if possible this was a shipping lane . That had been avoided before . But this time had been a sudden change in fishing locations. Many more details may allow further support adding credibility to any of or even add new possibilities .

[@LaniLanilei]

Pancreatic cancer spreads rapidly and has a poor prognosis. He has nothing to lose.

[@10HDFLHX]

He has the cancer back in 2009 and had a whipple procedure a result of it. As far as I know, the cancer did not return.

[@LaniLanilei]

@@10HDFLHX How do you know this?

[@10HDFLHX]

@@LaniLanilei Because I've known Marvin since around 1985. We went to school together and loosely kept up with each other since then.

[@LaniLanilei]

@@10HDFLHX Is he alive?

[@10HDFLHX]

@@LaniLanilei It's hard to know. If I were a betting man, I'd say yes.

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Merry Christmas Dr Grande!

[@KoolT]

Good morning from NC east coast.

[@samjam2376]

I ask, is it possible that the Doctor was never on the boat ? Or did I miss something? Wouldn't be the first time.

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

You gave this one your best shot, Dr. G.

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[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

please cover Shaquilla Robinson and the Cabo 6

[@defunctdefunctdefunct]

Lol, his friends declined because they knew his intentions. Definitely alive, one of those three boats circled back for him.

[@AZVIDS]

Fascinating👍

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Wow so interesting Thank you and Merry Christmas

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[@azulgaia7782]

so, was the factoring illegal, or just a way of selling off partial ownership of your business? Lots of us healthcare workers work for companies and only get a small percentage of what the insurance reimburses.

[@RagdollRalph]

Could you analyse the personality-characteristics of Conald Petersen aka Fedsmoker.

[@Traderjoe]

Did they find wreckage of the boat and did it show evidence of a collision? Aside from the oil slick, I only heard about the guy in the water being found. What happened with his wife? How was she being supported and is she still being supported? The waters off fire island are very shallow.

[@ZaneZog]

Without knowing what happened, there appears to be an ethics crisis in the medical establishment. Maybe there always was one. People my age remember shows like Ben Casey, Dr. Kildare and Marcus Welby, Md. I wonder if they were secretly brainiac criminals.

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Yesss king go off

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Hello Dr Grande! 😊

[@otzey]

It seems there won't be any upshot to this case any time soon.

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[@henkbarnard1553]

Should have stuck with the restaurant.

[@mariamerigold]

Thanks doc 😊

[@gazoo7411]

Marvin is living the good life in the Bahamas. Just a "shot in the dark"...haha

[@rullmourn1142]

Was any wreckage found of Marvin's boat.?

[@calico-kat-mom6204]

Merry Christmas Dr Grande to you and your family Happy New Year as well 😊

[@foxbat888]

Why not find the wreck?

[@mariaferro5832]

Great 👍 video.

[@Martin-gf1hh]

This is a cautionary tale to never have a child with a woman in America

[@automaticmattywhack1470]

If there was an oil slick, someone certainly noted the location. I'm sure an unmanned submersible could be sent underwater to inspect the craft and see if the remains are consistent with a collision.

[@hippygirlfriend4937]

Dr grande ur my favorite merry Xmas

[@kcindc5539]

Oh good lord. This story is so full of holes it’s amazing. Here we go: Max is lying. Flat out lying. He wasn’t hanging on to the case containing the raft, he was plucked from the sea while holding “a white cooler”. - If the raft were available Moy would have deployed it. The raft wasn’t available - why? Because Moy took off in it. That’s why he invited Max. Max was expendable and Moy most likely saw him as a potential witness for the prosecution. I’m also willing to bet the four friends who declined all had enough knowledge of Moy’s tricks they could be a liability if called as state’s witnesses. He wanted to be rid of them. IF Max was indeed asleep it was because Moy slipped him something in his drink or whatever. Moy had no plans to kill himself. He wanted to escape. He drugged Max, sabotaged his own boat to explode and sink, and took off in the raft leaving Max to die. Max is keeping to the story because he knows Moy is alive. And Max knows if he gives up any dirt Moy will have him killed. Just my $.02

[@evawasteson1296]

Good story too

[@buffalobob6438]

Aaarrrrggghhh matey !! …shivers me Timbers skallywag!…. Davey Jones locker gets yet another landlubber daring the seas… Arrgghhh !!

[@emilyhollis4231]

Here in Alabama, word of mouth is the best way to find a pain management clinic....I can't imagine needing a PR (of sorts) connection to find patients. I work in primary care and my "seeking" patients know about new pain mgmt clinics WAAAY before my doctors or myself. But....this is not NY. 😉

[@bevbag2715]

His practice was hit hard during COVID.

[@TrainSounds]

Could you do the case of Jevonny Crespo?

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Good evening Dr Grande, very interesting analysis. Marvin disappearance could have been any of the three you mentioned. But, I also Marvin was killed accidentally when colliding with a larger vehicle. As always I enjoy your videos and your brilliant dry humor.

[@erikamccarthy1457]

12/26/22 Imo, Marvin possibly took his own life. Especially, with his health issues and long jail sentence ahead. What about charges against people who took bribes sending people to his clinic, wasn’t a 2 man job!

[@mikepotter6426]

Those plants on the table. They enjoy living on the edge

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My daily Doc Grande dose 😅

[@scienceandtechnology9228]

if we want to make a correlation between ordinal and nominal data, what type of test i should use?

[@sophiaisabelle027]

May God bless everyone. Happy Holidays.

[@mirgrant]

merry christmas!!

[@annal7364]

Hey Dr. G, what are your thoughts on the case of Charlie Cullen? It seems like there was good and bad to him like a partly rotten apple. Do you think that’s possible or do you think his good actions were used merely to perpetuate his bad ones? Thanks! ❤️

[@valor36az]

Can you please analyze the case of former judge Tracie Hunter

[@clayhackney3514]

Pain management clinics eh? And just like that my sympathy found a home elsewhere

[@rockhard9369]

More like getting patient becoming addicts clinic.

[@10HDFLHX]

@@rockhard9369 I go to a pain management clinic, but never have gotten any "drugs" there. Just steroid shots in my spine so my back doesn't feel like someone is hacking at it with an icepick. Pain management doesn't always mean opioids...

[@rockhard9369]

@@10HDFLHX You are the 2% that didn't get opioid, good physician you got.

[@johnchase3920]

Marvin used interventional modalities, not drug therapy. Trigger point injections, steroid injections, chiropractic, and did not prescribe opioids as a matter of treatment. Did he ever? Maybe, but he did not run a pill mill!

[@barbieblue3336]

Don't look in NJ

[@wendiwonderly1419]

Dr grande, have you done an episode on the boatin disappearance of Patrick, former friend of Olivia newton John?

[@janakakumara3836]

He went from dishwasher to medical doctor to multi-business owner. Clearly Marvin was a hardworking and intelligent. But at the end, he got involved with criminals, probably drawn by desperation of losing his child/marriage and then being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. I agree with Grande. If he wanted to plan his disappearance, he probably would have planned it in a far less risky manner. Also I think he would have taken his kid.

[@bevbag2715]

His business also suffered greatly during the COVID pandemic. He was very generous and kind to his friends. It's an incredibly sad story and he leaves behind a young daughter.

[@rayross997]

Please cover Charles Starkweather & Caril Fugate?

[@aarondavis8943]

Did any of those 3 boats show signs of a collision? Focusing on those boats and their sailors seems like a plan.

[@Sleepparalysisdemon2]

It was a larger vessel. Wouldn't necessarily show any sign of a collision.

[@arinerm1331]

I wonder if the Law & Order episode "Whiplash" (S11E19) may have been based upon this doctor.

[@michaelmcgovern8110]

It wasn't convenient for the boat.