Physics - Mechanics: The Pulley (1 of 2)

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Michel van Biezen

Michel van Biezen

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This lecture series will cover Newton's Second Law of Physics: F=ma.
This lecture series will introduce you to the function of a pulley, also called the Atwood Machine.
Problem Text:
A string is placed over a massless and frictionless pulley. A mass of 8kg is suspended at one end while a mass of 5kg is suspended from the other. What is the acceleration of the system.

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@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 10 жыл бұрын
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@lujainaakz1630
@lujainaakz1630 6 жыл бұрын
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@l.bandproud9506
@l.bandproud9506 6 жыл бұрын
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@infernosm3857
@infernosm3857 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, sir!!!
@abdulnaqvi8284
@abdulnaqvi8284 4 жыл бұрын
Your teaching is excellent but I do have one question, why did you make the gravity positive? I would have made the gravity negative because its going downwards, but it would give me the wrong answer.
@infernosm3857
@infernosm3857 4 жыл бұрын
@@abdulnaqvi8284 Because gravity itself, fundamentally, is a DOWNWARD force. (As it *PULLS* objects toward earth) So the positives value will always be downwards, and negative value will be upwards because it is against gravity. Hope u get it, correct me if I'm wrong.
@pureskiler69
@pureskiler69 10 жыл бұрын
i've learned more from you in 11 minutes than i have from my professor in 9 hours. Thank you!
@aaronward9318
@aaronward9318 9 жыл бұрын
My left ear learned a lot from this video.
@prakashmohite6409
@prakashmohite6409 8 жыл бұрын
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@eirc123qwert
@eirc123qwert 7 жыл бұрын
I would have been puzzled the whole video if I didn't see your comment xD I only had my right one in
@B2utyCookies
@B2utyCookies 6 жыл бұрын
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@Lorenzo01179
@Lorenzo01179 6 жыл бұрын
I also thought my earphones were broken xD
@newtonpandey3465
@newtonpandey3465 6 жыл бұрын
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@somesmallstuff8647
@somesmallstuff8647 Жыл бұрын
it is pretty nice to see that you are still replying to comments considering the fact that the video was uploaded 9 years ago! I am generally solving these questions by turning these two masses into one body and finding the acceleration from there.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is the technique we use in the videos as well; look at the whole system as one entity.
@zachkennow9638
@zachkennow9638 8 жыл бұрын
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@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 11 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thanks for the comment.
@Mrfurry618
@Mrfurry618 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you your explanations are very in depth with a simple and easy to follow delivery. Keep up the good work.
@chainarongjitbunjong851
@chainarongjitbunjong851 7 жыл бұрын
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@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 9 жыл бұрын
Faisal, At first only using variables (and no numbers) may look strange and confusing. But it is the best way to learn how to solve problems in physics. I recommend that you learn this technique, because in the long run, it will greatly improve your ability to solve physics problems. Just take it one step at a time and make sure you understand each step before going on to the next step. After giving it some time it will make sense
@selene_xoxo
@selene_xoxo Жыл бұрын
Wow this video was God sent! Someone recommended this video in an MCAT practice question thread and this just explained everything so well. Thank you :)
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped and glad you found our videos. They should be a big help for getting ready for the MCAT. 🙂
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@nimo517 9 ай бұрын
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@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 9 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel. There are 9900 videos, so that will keep you busy for a while. 🙂
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 10 жыл бұрын
Suvrath Hegde Sure. It makes everything a lot easier. If you are just trying to understand the concepts or show that you know how to solve a problem 10m/sec^2 makes it much simpler. But when the "exact" answer is asked for you must use 9.8 m/sec^2
@danaabou-khamis9975
@danaabou-khamis9975 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sir! This was great. I had two physics teachers that tried to explain this to me and they made it so complicated by subbing equations into each other. You made it so easy and I have a test tomrrow.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@nerdguy21
@nerdguy21 10 жыл бұрын
Really like how you explain simple pulleys. Make my life alot easier
@fallenangel3703
@fallenangel3703 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you, You have helped my understanding and with that i have improved my grade significantly.Thanks
@LuluXin-oo4wu
@LuluXin-oo4wu 4 ай бұрын
There is a formula for this type of question which is actually a derivation. Here the mass of object 1 should be greatest than mass of object 2 (m1 > m2) and should be in Vertical motion For acceleration a = [(m1 - m2)÷(m1 + m2)]×g For tension T= [(2m1m2) ÷(m1 + m2) ]×g (I mentioned in magnitude) If m1 = m2 Then a=0 If i am wrong correct me
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 ай бұрын
Nice work. We try to avoid assigning equations to everything, instead teaching the techniques to derive the equation in any situation.
@LuluXin-oo4wu
@LuluXin-oo4wu 4 ай бұрын
​@MichelvanBiezen Sir, it's actually very helpful. Your way of teaching is great and beginner friendly too and you explain the concept crystal clear.I really appreciate it.All I wanted to convey is that if direct formula and tricks are given it will be helpful for students appearing in competitive exams that's it. And Sir, I have been watching your videos for a long time and it really helped me to ace my exams😊. Thank you so much. Wow it's been 11years and you still reply. Hats off And I am going to attend an entrance exam. Wish me luck please🙏
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 ай бұрын
Best wishes and good luck!
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@xprincy 6 жыл бұрын
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@andysmith342
@andysmith342 9 жыл бұрын
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@alejandromontague1388 6 жыл бұрын
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@jonathanche3722
@jonathanche3722 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I understand you much more than my AP Physics teacher... hopefully i'll do fine on my test tomrrow!
@lissandro3709
@lissandro3709 7 жыл бұрын
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@flynnkyran
@flynnkyran 6 жыл бұрын
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@samisiddiqi5411 2 жыл бұрын
It's been four years. Did you pass?
@suryasarkar87
@suryasarkar87 5 жыл бұрын
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@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel.
@tinani97
@tinani97 6 жыл бұрын
I wish my professor would teach these concepts straightforward like Biezan, he does it in like 10min too. My professor just explains how the equations are derived and has us do practice questions as HW, without actually doing at least one problem to show us how its done. Going though step by step of how to solve physics questions in these videos helps me understand more and gives me hope to pass my physics class
@OjasviAgnihotri
@OjasviAgnihotri Жыл бұрын
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@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
Glad we are able to help with our videos. 🙂
@WeR2VEVO
@WeR2VEVO 7 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful video, Mr. Biezen. Very clear and I appreciate how you solved algebraically before plugging in values; I usually define my formulas and jump in plugging numbers.
@mravi8or
@mravi8or 6 жыл бұрын
This video is exponentially better than the SAT study books I just bought.
@markwu8605
@markwu8605 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.Your lecture is the savior.I really hate my physics teacher and like a rubbish.Thank you so much for my physics test!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
Glad you found our videos. Good luck on your test. 🙂
@carultch
@carultch 2 жыл бұрын
We call it Atwood's machine because Mr Atwood came up with this machine for the purpose of slowing down the acceleration of gravity, so that it would be practical to measure it accurately when subject to human reaction time. He also used it as a way to experimentally verify the constant acceleration kinematic formulas.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comment. Like the insight.
@justinmedia1621
@justinmedia1621 6 ай бұрын
Great teaching understood it in 13 min. Wish my school had a good Physic teacher.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jackcicero6746
@jackcicero6746 7 жыл бұрын
why did he write m1g minus m2g and not plus? if you look at the diagram both forces act in the same direction so the resultant force on the system is g(m1 + m2). what is the explanation for putting a minus?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 жыл бұрын
To find the net force you must add all the forces that aid the acceleration (they act in the same direction as the acceleration) and SUBTRACT all the forces OPPOSING the acceleration (they act in the opposite direction of the acceleration).
@jackcicero6746
@jackcicero6746 7 жыл бұрын
+Michel van Biezen yes because even though m2g is acting down, acceleration for M2 is upwards so it opposes. thank you very much, i understand now :)
@HasibAlRashid
@HasibAlRashid Ай бұрын
i've learned more from you in 11 minutes than i have from my professor in 9 hours.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 9 жыл бұрын
Shadd, I believe I made a problem like that.
@yourlocaltheatrekid900
@yourlocaltheatrekid900 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I completely did not understand the lesson from my teacher, but this video explained it wonderfully.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
Glad you found our videos! 🙂
@FoxRiverBridge
@FoxRiverBridge 7 ай бұрын
What a perfect video for the night before my exam. Thank you so much for this!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 ай бұрын
All the best on your exam.
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@Jonathan-vx7xi 3 жыл бұрын
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@biancablair6462
@biancablair6462 7 ай бұрын
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@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 ай бұрын
Thank! You had to do some heavy lifting too.
@antisymmetric237
@antisymmetric237 Жыл бұрын
I love to learn physics specially when mathematical equations are involved. You do such a great job at that. Thanks you for sharing the knowledge!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. Glad you found our videos! 🙂
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@istinugovorim3855 6 жыл бұрын
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@behindtheslopes3907
@behindtheslopes3907 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Had a problem like this on Khan academy, the hints and solutions really weren’t helping glad I found this!!!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@tuanangthe3296
@tuanangthe3296 Жыл бұрын
The tension in the string is 60.3, the resultant force is 60.3*2 = 120.6(N), which is less than the sum of the two weights (5+8)*9.8 = 127.4 (N). Please explain why!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
The tension in a string can only equal the weight of the object havning from it, IF the object is not moving or moving at a constant speed. If the object is accelerating, the tension will not be the same. (See the other videos in the Newton's application videos).
@tuanangthe3296
@tuanangthe3296 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@dhruvpandey4147
@dhruvpandey4147 8 жыл бұрын
damn entered my left ear and left
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 8 жыл бұрын
+Dhruv Pandey Sorry but our early video are for left-ear only. Then we discovered we could make our videos for left- AND right-ears!
@goodman5836
@goodman5836 8 жыл бұрын
+Michel van Biezen lool
@shrddharajput1324
@shrddharajput1324 5 жыл бұрын
Entered your ear and left 🤣🤣😂😂
@maplesap
@maplesap 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched an entire 2 min studypug ad AND clicked the link, cuz you deserve it. Saved my ass
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@huotantonin9193
@huotantonin9193 9 күн бұрын
mhhh ..., since to get the expression of acceleration a_x, we need to assume that T1 = T2, thus a_x = (m1-m2)g / m1+m2. So why T1 isn't equal to T2, since we first assumed that T1 = T2 ?
@lucygrainger4860
@lucygrainger4860 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone else cramming some last minute studying before an exam?
@sinclair1082
@sinclair1082 6 жыл бұрын
Lol me
@lipibanerjee9791
@lipibanerjee9791 6 жыл бұрын
Lol me
@muhammadhashim5385
@muhammadhashim5385 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@muhdhafiz2468
@muhdhafiz2468 5 жыл бұрын
Akuu
@blaccoon0594
@blaccoon0594 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. You are better than my real Physics teacher.
@thatoldbob7956
@thatoldbob7956 4 жыл бұрын
A very interesting lecture. My question: How would you explain this by the old system? Since you only examine a static condition, the forces in the rope’ s sides while the pulley is not rotating. I spent 60 years in static engineering and I am glad that I got out of it in the right time. One of my daughter is a physicist from Cambridge.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 жыл бұрын
In this example, the pulley is rotating and the masses are accelerating.
@venukalvakota1262
@venukalvakota1262 7 жыл бұрын
I have clearly understood whatever he explained me...now I can do my exam well.
@simthandetv9851
@simthandetv9851 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Repeating the video over and over has helped me a lot!
@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397
@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397 4 жыл бұрын
Let us say I'm making a 2:1 ratio pulley system. 1st mapping is: (A) 10kg weight on ground rope tied to it, (B) Pulley anchored on ceiling, and (D) I am hand pulling from free end on ground over top pulley to move (A) to a balanced point and progress capture. Here I get 10kg to move, 20kg on pulley anchor, while I tugged at 10kg. Correct? OK... Map 2: What if I add another identical size pulley hanging same height @ 60cm away... then run atop both pulleys still in a 2:1 (no direction change). Even if angle of the two pulleys is more or less out of the equation... Am I reducing friction? Does this have potential for preventing potential vectoring or twist of my tugging position? Did I make any difference like changing acceleration or ease I might feel by possibly sort of creating a larger bullwheel so there is less bite over just atop the single pulley? I know that is a lot to ask. Thank you for considering my inquiries.
@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397
@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397 4 жыл бұрын
MY first questions get transformed into another practical or not reason to know where I am going with this. Map X: I am standing on the shore trying to free a pinned raft. I am fortunate enough in this scenario to have the pulley attached to the Raft. I make a 2:1 Point (A) = Shoreline anchor Point (B) = Pulley secured to Raft Point (C) = Me tugging on the free end of rope. Here I should get mechanical advantage of shoreline anchor receiving same load as me tugging, while the pulley to Raft is doubled. Correct? SO... what if I employ a second identical pulley inline with first, same 60cm apart (maybe/likely even more) still 2:1 as in no direction change for second pulley. Same inquiry: am I achieving anything other than a backup pulley? Thank you again.
@jagadishmahato9925
@jagadishmahato9925 10 жыл бұрын
Great job. Thanks for uploading physics problem solving videos... These videos will be very helpful for physics guys.
@physicsmanodd4491
@physicsmanodd4491 2 жыл бұрын
i know that the m2g is slow down the systyem acceleration but the definition when we sum the force is force in the same vector need to add not subtract
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
Because you want to differentiate between which forces are aiding the acceleration and which forces are opposing the acceleration.
@physicsmanodd4491
@physicsmanodd4491 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but how it can controversial the definition
@thailandfutsal5508
@thailandfutsal5508 2 жыл бұрын
The mg force is in the Same direction so we can’t calculate in one system because F =ma can use only F make the object has Same acceleration but we need to calculate in each object and add 2 equation so we can get your equation does it correct
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
There are 2 ways to solve a problem like this. You can take the whole system at once and calculate the net force on the whole system, or you can draw a free body diagram around each mass and calculate the total force on each block, and then solve the the two equations simultaneously. The first method is easier and faster, but they are both correct methods to solve the problem. We show the second method in a different video.
@thailandfutsal5508
@thailandfutsal5508 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichelvanBiezen but the whole system solution has the source from the each mass equation rigg
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by the "source". We are only dealing with mass and force, not sources. Also, what do you mean by "solution"? We are either looking for acceleration of the system, or the tension in the string.
@rbix404
@rbix404 2 жыл бұрын
its always the old videos, thank you so much
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@nerotyagi
@nerotyagi 7 жыл бұрын
sir, your explanations are tremendously good!!! Love 'em. I hope I watched 'em in the beginning of my sessions
@marcaroughsecretagent.
@marcaroughsecretagent. 11 ай бұрын
Wow sir you are the best, I had a different question from this one but I found everything right...the tension I calculated is balanced thank you I just subscribed ❤
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel! 🙂
@fizixx
@fizixx 9 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas 🌲 thanks for all the wonderful videos and explanations.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 8 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas to you as wll. 🙂
@fizixx
@fizixx 8 ай бұрын
@@MichelvanBiezen 🙂
@EmGann-l3i
@EmGann-l3i 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, this was super helpful!! was browsing the physics forum for ages trying to figure out how to solve a standard pulley problem and this explained it so simply instead ^^;
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 11 ай бұрын
Glad you found our videos. 🙂
@PIANOSTYLE100
@PIANOSTYLE100 7 жыл бұрын
Michael thanks for your reply. my phone is this year's ZTE . iPhones may allow changing resolution but as far as I know I can not change the resolution .
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 жыл бұрын
We just checked it out on one of my kid's phone and it looks fine on that one as well on the regular setting. And she can increase the resolution as needed. (that is part of the youtube settings and it should not depend on your phone).
@Martin07031
@Martin07031 Жыл бұрын
And what if I wanted to include friction and mass of the pulley? How would the equation look?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
We usually ignore friction (since it tends to be insignificant), but if the pulley has mass you must take into account its moment of inertia: see these two chapters: PHYSICS 13 MOMENT OF INERTIA APPLICATIONS and PHYSICS 13.1 MOMENT OF INERTIA APPLICATIONS 2 starting at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnakpYemfqxrd68 and kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnnOdX2thpmLpMk
@metturamadevi3459
@metturamadevi3459 Жыл бұрын
Sir when will tension be different and how will we find acceleration when tension is different
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
We have examples of that when the pulley has mass. Physics - Mechanics: Application of Moment of Inertia and Angular Acceleration (2 of 2) kzbin.info/www/bejne/raPLhWiufLhgnJo
@lazaruspora3280
@lazaruspora3280 2 жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation from Papua new Guinea
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so! Welcome to the channel!
@m16biswas45
@m16biswas45 7 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained
@johnbingham6355
@johnbingham6355 3 жыл бұрын
Until now, I had used a much longer approach ie ......8g-T=8a.......T-5g =5a...to give a =3g/13 =2.26
@shreyb1409
@shreyb1409 7 жыл бұрын
thanku sir...i studied these things like a life ago......kind of nicely refreshed the memory..
@SuvrathHegde
@SuvrathHegde 10 жыл бұрын
For simplified calculation, can't we assume the value of g as 10. Bcoz in Indian entrance exams (for universities) we are asked to assume g= 10m/s^2
@carultch
@carultch 2 жыл бұрын
There is nowhere on this planet that g equals exactly 10 m/s^2, or rather 10 Newtons/kilogram. 9.8 N/kg is close to the global average value, and is what most teachers expect you to use in Physics problems if it is not otherwise specified. The value ranges from 9.77 N/kg to 9.83 N/kg across the planet, as the apparent gravitational field in a reference frame for an observer who is stationary on the Earth's surface.
@angiebabe94
@angiebabe94 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much. I can't tell you how much your videos help. It makes a huge difference in my confidence this class.
@deborahtesfaye5551
@deborahtesfaye5551 Жыл бұрын
I was very stressed out bc I thought I would fail my phy final exam...u make it alot easier to me I rly appreciate ur cooperation Mr u saved my life...we need more videos like this with simple explanation.honstely I wish u were my physics teacher. Tnx again
@user-kd2om5ej9c
@user-kd2om5ej9c 7 жыл бұрын
Thank u sir , I understood the problems very well and u explain by easy way 👍
@evanhincapie1442
@evanhincapie1442 6 жыл бұрын
Got a physics test on this tomorrow and you saved my shit bro good looks
@SarunaAlbahr
@SarunaAlbahr 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your explanation! The detail you added really helped me to understand!
@austin1623
@austin1623 10 ай бұрын
In college physics, this is amazing. thank you.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 10 ай бұрын
You are welcome. Glad you found our videos. 🙂
@teresaolim2857
@teresaolim2857 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be solved the same way if the pulley had mass? Thank you so much, this was very helpful!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
If the pulley has mass, you need to use a different technique. See this video: Physics - Application of the Moment of Inertia (10 of 11) Acceleration=? When Pulley Has Mass kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipq9mWx6jr9qapY
@petertshiamu2136
@petertshiamu2136 7 жыл бұрын
beautiful studied for one 3 nights and i got everything that i need to pass my upcoming test thank you
@austin2dmax216
@austin2dmax216 Жыл бұрын
I really wish you were my physics teacher... Physics would probably be more enjoyable if you were.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
Thank you. We do try to make it interesting in our classrooms.
@johnbingham6355
@johnbingham6355 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.If I were not so daft I should have realised that.However, as far as I can see, we always seem to deal with a light string.Well, supposing that under the same conditions, as in the the simple example of 1;2 we deal with a heavy rope of mass m.Could we answer the question by the proportionality within the rope? I have tried this but still fail to find the right answer.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome
@borisk6089
@borisk6089 7 жыл бұрын
If the pulley is massless, then we don't care if it's frictionless. If the pulley is frictionless, we don't care if it's massless. In other words, if it's either frictionless or massless, things will work out the same. Also, if it's either of those things, it doesn't make it obvious that the tension is the same throughout the string. It requires that the string be massless and is a not-so-trivial thing to explain. Also: if you consider two blocks as the "system", one should carefully explain what the net force on the system is. If you add m1g and m2g, which are, after all, in the same direction, you get m1g + m2g, not (m1-m2)g. Of course, the answer IS m1-m2)g - but why? Should be explained more carefully, I think.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 жыл бұрын
If the pulley has mass you have to take its moment of inertia into account. If the pulley has friction you have to take the friction force into account. They are very different.
@borisk6089
@borisk6089 7 жыл бұрын
If the pulley has mass BUT is frictionless, its mass (and rotational inertia) don't matter since the string will be sliding along, without exerting a torque. If the pulley is massless, then not being frictionless doesn't matter: there would still be no friction and no torque. When I say "frictionless", I mean, of course, the rim where the string is sliding, not the axle (which better be frictionless since, hey, intro physics). For the tension to be equal on both sides, there should be no friction between the pulley and the string AND the string must be massless. I am sure we agree on this.
@Zephero
@Zephero 4 жыл бұрын
My right ear hated this But my left ear loved it
@johnmifsud6814
@johnmifsud6814 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do this problem including the friction and mass of the pulley ?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
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@samueloliver5598
@samueloliver5598 7 жыл бұрын
Really good, really helpful thanks for spending the time to do this for us!!!
@alanchoichang8336
@alanchoichang8336 2 жыл бұрын
what? you have to round down to a=2m/s2 because they gave you whole numbers?? what is that all about...
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
Since the original information was given with 1 significant figure, the answer should only have one significant figure. We were just pointing that out.
@alanchoichang8336
@alanchoichang8336 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichelvanBiezen i see. thank you for your answer! i guess i was just wondering whether a teacher would consider the answer incorrect if the student were to keep the 0.26.
@2MinMaths
@2MinMaths 2 жыл бұрын
Question: Why would the tensions of both of the ropes be equal the same?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
For the tension to change from one part of the string to another part of the string there must be a force (from outside the system) somewhere that pulls on the string other than at each end by the two masses. If there isn't (like in this example), then the tension must be the same on both ends. Newton's third law states that for every action, there must be an equal and opposite reaction. The pull by the one mass is therefore equal and in the opposite direction to the pull of the other mass.
@2MinMaths
@2MinMaths 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichelvanBiezen But aren't the masses of the two objects different? So it would have different tensions per rope?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
The size of the mass doesn't matter. The rope is pulling on each mass with the same force and hence the tension is the same everywhere in the rope. It is physically not possible for the tension to be different, unless there is an external force (not part of the system) exerting a force on the string along the direction of the string.
@2MinMaths
@2MinMaths 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichelvanBiezen Does that mean the acceleration due to the ropes on the objects are also the same?
@tianlang-r6n
@tianlang-r6n Ай бұрын
sir, what is the magnitude of the tension of the uppermost string(connecting the ceiling and the pulley)?
@ArgentumFirst
@ArgentumFirst 7 ай бұрын
Sir, Thank you so much for the lesson!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 ай бұрын
You are welcome.
@boggarapulokesh3224
@boggarapulokesh3224 4 жыл бұрын
I was asked bandwidth for same problem but only with single mass. Any idea on how to do it?
@notebook1542
@notebook1542 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, you saved my test grade
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck on your test.
@historyisthebest5831
@historyisthebest5831 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, I also did a problem like this on the test and I have rounding errors as well. I'm kind of curious about how those rounding errors are created because the tension from the two sides (same rope) are really really close but it's not exact.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 жыл бұрын
Just keep more decimal places, or just use the calculator results without rounding.
@historyisthebest5831
@historyisthebest5831 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichelvanBiezen Okay thank you! I kept more decimal places the last time I calculated it, and it perfected the result although they're still missing by 0.02.
@teohjingyang3082
@teohjingyang3082 6 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot!!! Thanks for helping me in the exam!!
@jojibot9193
@jojibot9193 6 жыл бұрын
I have an exam in 10 minutes this saved my skin
@drumtwo4seven
@drumtwo4seven 4 жыл бұрын
"times g which is 9.8 meters per second squared" where did 9.8 meters per second squared come from? Thanks
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 жыл бұрын
g is the acceleration due to gravity
@theastuteangler
@theastuteangler 2 жыл бұрын
It has been obtained experimentally and is a known value
@thrinaikarthick7709
@thrinaikarthick7709 Жыл бұрын
sir you just saved me now i understand pully problems thank you once again I am in class 9
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
That is great. Where do you go school? Typically that is not covered in grade 9 here.
@ahmeddraza
@ahmeddraza 9 ай бұрын
same here brother, these pakistani and indian schools make us teach these college things in grade 9 and 10
@ss-pw4zj
@ss-pw4zj Жыл бұрын
Intuitively I would think it’s masses subtracted as well on the bottom
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Жыл бұрын
No, the force must act on the total mass of the system. F = ma
@thailandfutsal5508
@thailandfutsal5508 2 жыл бұрын
But the whole system Has the source from each of mass equation right?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure what you are asking. The mass of the whole system = m1 + m2
@virajagarwal4789
@virajagarwal4789 7 жыл бұрын
Sir this video is amazing can you make some more videos on ib physics Regards
@kifter4254
@kifter4254 6 жыл бұрын
thank you so much. such a good teacher
@muhammadnurfirdausbinswand538
@muhammadnurfirdausbinswand538 4 жыл бұрын
I learn more from this
@aryasomayajularajeswarisra9794
@aryasomayajularajeswarisra9794 2 жыл бұрын
Can i know why the tension is same on both the strings even though two different masses are acting on either side
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
For the tension to change from one part of the string to another part of the string there must be a force (from outside the system) somewhere that pulls on the string other than at each end by the two masses. If there isn't (like in this example), then the tension must be the same on both ends. Newton's third law states that for every action, there must be an equal and opposite reaction. The pull by the one mass is therefore equal and in the opposite direction to the pull of the other mass.
@aryasomayajularajeswarisra9794
@aryasomayajularajeswarisra9794 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichelvanBiezen sir if there is a string where one end of the string is attached toa rigid support and other end is passed through a pulley and is attached some load now in between pulley and one end of the string that is attached to the rigid support there attached another load directly to the string, now will the tension be same over the whole string sir
@carultch
@carultch 2 жыл бұрын
@@aryasomayajularajeswarisra9794 Tension is a "stretching force" that opposes a stretched structural member from increasing its length. In this example with an idealized string that is massless and inextensible, the string length remains constant. Tension will be as large as necessary to prevent the distance along the string between the two masses from increasing. If one tries to move away from the other along the path between them, the string's tension will oppose this motion. The string length remains constant, and the tension is the same on both sides of the string. The tension is the same throughout the string because the string is idealized to have no mass of its own, and the pulley is idealized to be massless and frictionless. All the pulley does in this example, is redirect the tension so that it pulls both masses up. There is a bearing that supports the pulley, which applies a force of 2*T to allow the pulley to support the tension from below, and be supported from above.
@aryasomayajularajeswarisra9794
@aryasomayajularajeswarisra9794 2 жыл бұрын
@@carultch thank you sir
@carultch
@carultch 2 жыл бұрын
@@aryasomayajularajeswarisra9794 No problem. Let me know if you have any further questions.
@johnbingham6355
@johnbingham6355 3 жыл бұрын
I have unsuccessfully tried to calculate the length of the string in such problems.Can anyone suggest a method?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 3 жыл бұрын
The string can be any length (assuming we can ignore the mass of the string) and the acceleration would be the same
@masongluth6759
@masongluth6759 7 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video!!! Thank you Mr. Biezen!
@mwabakabamba7124
@mwabakabamba7124 2 жыл бұрын
I finally understand this topic
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found this video. 🙂
@egemenbalban3789
@egemenbalban3789 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Explained very clearly.
@matthewmoore7862
@matthewmoore7862 7 жыл бұрын
my left ear loved this video
@arunfz
@arunfz 5 жыл бұрын
i have one doubt . Here its said that tension in the string is same in both side of the pulley .but a pulley will be in static equilibrium if the tension is equal on both sides as turning effect clockwise and anticlockwise cancels out the rotation chance . here in this question the pulley will rotate anyway . so how we can say tension in the string is same on both sides ?plz help
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 жыл бұрын
The tension in the string will be the same on both sides, even when the object are accelerating.
@arunfz
@arunfz 5 жыл бұрын
@@MichelvanBiezen but how a pulley can rotate if the tension in the string on both sides are equal ?turning effect will cancel out and pulley will be at stuck na ? my email id is arunkumar8c@gmail.com . if u can elaborate with any sketches u can mail me to it . will be helpful if ur helping me .
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 жыл бұрын
If the pulley does not apply a force to the string (as in this example), then the tension on both side is the same.
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