Piano House Rhythm pt2 How To Write To Vocals

[@jeffwass8268]

never looked at it like this thanks

[@stevehowarth8470]

This has helped me 10 fold!! Cheers!

[@Bthelick]

Thanks Steve, glad I can help. Let me know what you're struggling with I'll try to incorporate it into future vids. ❤️👊🙏

[@stevehowarth8470]

Would love a video on layering a Piano, what instruments fit best etc. I’ve been going through your videos and can’t believe I’ve only just stumbled across them. Absolute gems!!

[@renanmelo4797]

Seu canal é sensacional. Um dos melhores que vi até agora. Parabéns pelos vídeos. Sua voz é absurda, logo me vem a mente usar ela em uma track 😂. Deus abençoe o seu trabalho!

[@Bthelick]

🙏❤️👊

[@RossTempo]

So inspiring 🙏🏼

[@mikeaporter]

Thanks. Brilliant stuff. Would love to see how you would apply similar thinking to other genres of dance/EDM - the foundational principles/options for taking a melody and finding a suitable drum pattern/bassline and vice versa. Lots of tutorials showing how to make a 'good' melody or a bassline - not many that show how the two fit together. Hope that makes sense.

[@Bthelick]

Yeah we can do that. The principles are all similar in truth, you're right though, context is key!

[@mikeaporter]

@@Bthelick Amazing! Thx

[@INVIZO-MUSIC]

thank you

[@darbomusic]

Amazing videos. Thanks ❤

[@eartimevibes5994]

I like the bit we're you started pitching, I definitely want to be able to hear and play it in like that. I am fully aware that it comes with practise and patience but even playing around with it, it'd be nice to test myself and see if I can figure out the pitches. Another great video 😇🤯

[@Bthelick]

That's indeed how you get there. 1 note at a time. Chop them up or slow them down in the DAW even to help. Finding 1 note at a time. That's all it is, time and practice

[@thisislucydarlyn]

OMG THIS IS WHAT IM LOOKING FOR!!!

[@twoscoops2]

Great video, thanks so much.

[@Bangers_mostly]

i love this guy!

[@MrDisrupta]

Top work

[@djkebbe]

Top videos. So understandable

[@Vxyz.official]

incredible with the pitch IDs - great video as always

[@aqrs269]

Thank you!

[@prem1ummusic]

Haven't watched the video, but _thx for your work_ Once I could get through your teaching, cause I'm zero at music producing and still haven't practiced at any true DAW (what a pity)

[@jp_sizzle]

I am working with a vocal that has a separate verse and chorus and I have the goal to make a danceable piano house song. The separate vocals have their own unique syncopated rhythms. Should I try to find a piano rhythm that hits the most syncopated notes of the entire verse and chorus to try to keep the song more danceable? What's more important, having the same piano Rythm throughout the song or matching the vocals syncopation?

[@Bthelick]

Good question. If you can't find any common syncopated rhythms between the parts then it's probably best to leave the vocal to do most of the syncopated stuff and just Keep the piano / bass simple and mostly square. If there's any sections without the vocal you can always fill in the gaps there, emulating the rhythm of the best vocal hook. Or There's nothing wrong with changing it up in each section, as long as it doesn't sound like a completely different track and groove. Try to keep something in common between them.

[@jp_sizzle]

@@Bthelick You're the best music production content for EDM I have ever found. I never experienced someone being so helpful to a stranger from across the internet. I admire your passion and helpfulness to others. Thank you again!

[@NinoAngelo_Music]

Hello. PLEASE can u just Tell me where did u got that classic drum kit or can u sample these sounds for me? That kick is so punchy. I never figure it out in logic x how to remake it.

[@Bthelick]

First of all, no one sound is great in all situations. This kick will sound good only in this context. This bass sound, this song key, and the room left by the other instruments etc. These drums are pulled from various sample packs on splice and elsewhere. Mostly Mark Knight, and Defected packs. The most important information you need is my original reference track because that's what I aimed for when I chose the drums. The reference track was Tommy Vercetti - I Miss You. Choose your drums while listening to that and you will get much closer.

[@FLAN-MUSIC]

fuck I was so stuck before this with the rhythm of my song, now it sounds nice and bouncey.

[@ililililililililil6974]

Found your channel recently and it’s easily the best production channel out there. Wanted to ask, in this video your piano is playing from C3 to C4 (or what ableton says). If I play the same chord as you (in the same octave) with my M1 patch ( from your other vid), it sounds really dirty whereas yours sounds really clean. Do you have some sort of pitch shift for ur piano in this vid? Sorry for massive question

[@Bthelick]

It's probably that the m1 sample is in the wrong octave (meaning it was sampled in the wrong octave). I can't remember if I mentioned that. Try it +12 and see if that sounds the same. Oh and thanks for the compliments! Though I would call this composition more than production. That term gets too confused these days I think it's important to make the distinction.

[@ililililililililil6974]

@@Bthelick I’ll try to pitch shift it then, many thanks

[@Bthelick]

@@ililililililililil6974 transpose it, don't pitch shift it! Pitch shift is an audio term, pitching the audio will sound terrible. Instead transpose the midi.

[@ililililililililil6974]

@@Bthelick ah ok. Yea I changed pitch with little alter boy and it ruined the sound. Transposing it sounds good but still much more thin than your sound, I’ll try to mess around with saturation or something in the mids

[@Bthelick]

@@ililililililililil6974 it's definitely not saturation, distortion typically sounds really bad on piano. I'm not sure what the problem could be.

[@desroi6967]

What's the best plugin for those piano sounds? Korg M1 VST?

[@Bthelick]

That's one of big 90s sounds yes, but There's free options too. I show it in the "release ready piano house sound" video. Some then also the free meat beats micro piano is great too. Or I've done plenty of tracks with Ableton's own grand piano also.

[@will90ist]

What do you mean when you say square section? Amazing video btw you're such a legend!

[@Bthelick]

Thanks! Did you check pt1? 'square' rhythm is on beat , usually most things on the 8th grid . Anything in-between that is "syncopated " (the opposite)

[@mariostoka1198]

super!

[@joffey1990]

Love your Channel so Much I ca find pt1 tho

[@Bthelick]

It's here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZDCaJJvbcp_d7c Can you tell me if it's blocked in your country?

[@Bthelick]

I've had to mute parts unfortunately, let me know if the lesson survives

[@joffey1990]

@@Bthelick thank you very much works in uk

[@JoesFastestStarcraftCasts]

Anyway you can send me the vocal so I can practice getting the rhythm down?

[@ruk2023--]

Does this work for other instruments of chords as well as piano?

[@Bthelick]

Yes anything can play chords apart from bass really. If you are referring to the rhythm aspect, Bear in mind the attack (start) of the sound is important for that. The same rhythms on a soft sound and a transient rich sound will sound like 2 very different grooves

[@ruk2023--]

@@Bthelick Top man.

[@dannyfrederixmusic3312]

Another cracking video, I'd pay to watch you do a start to finish, I always get stuck in arrangement and automation stage, I'm so useless at it, I get frustrated and throw away quite a few good ideas and plenty of bad ones. Also have big struggles finding decent vocal material to work with, Splice is lacking IMO..

[@Bthelick]

Yeah good vocals are a nightmare, I'm really lucky to know girls like Tasia. But its like any other sample or sound selection, you get an ear for it over time. Splice is still the best solution we have right now. We'll definitely do a full session at some point. I'm kinda trying to structure all this like a course, so the fundamentals are in place first.

[@ryanbent9368]

@@Bthelick Agreed, most Splice vocal samples sing with no emotion and it will make a vocal driven track fall apart.

[@stevehowarth8470]

How would I fit a melody with this?

[@Bthelick]

Have you seen any of the melody videos yet? They are a bit older

[@prem1ummusic]

Btw, what DAW do actually you use?

[@Bthelick]

I use Ableton these days. But I've used them all at some point in my career.

[@prem1ummusic]

@@Bthelick I've heard that Ableton is good for making arrangements;)

[@prem1ummusic]

Is it better than Cubase 12?

[@prem1ummusic]

@@Bthelick And 1 more question: is Ableton enough for beginner or amateur later?

[@Bthelick]

@@prem1ummusic any daw is enough for any level. I used to use Cubase, I stopped at v8. It probably has more options than Ableton tbh, but I just prefer the work flow in Ableton. The DAW or plugins is never the limiting factor of any music maker, it's only the ear training. There's no quality difference between any of them at a fundamental level.

[@PilzE.]

Soulful, groovy, girlie house has always been my thing. Just couldn't get enough of female vocals, thumping four/four beats and lavish piano hooks as my eyes bulged, jaw clenched and body rode the rhythm. The late great Frankie Knuckles with K Klass on remix duties, and Adeva laying the heavenly silk: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ3Ifnton9qUmNE Seeing this style broke down is amazing. Your workflow, as you input notes and chords, by ear, to perfectly complement the vocal, is mesmerising. You, Sir, are my house hero! Did you ever appreciate the sub-genre “epic house”? Probably my favourite track of the type would be this banger, which I picked up on an unmixed vinyl compilation of, oddly enough, Epic House! Magic by Sasha, remixed by Blue Amazon: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ol7RkmeblNJ0qK8

[@buzzandjim4265]

Noice