Crusher Explains Jacks Accent To JL. Sharing a Moment - Part 3 - Star Trek Picard S03E03

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[@dibaterman]

Yeah, this is closer to the Picard I know, he made the hard decision on the spot and showed that he is struggling but that struggle is locked in a game of professionalism - That's Star Fleet.

[@kristinazubic9669]

Boarding school. I knew it… That look Will gives Jack 😂

[@stephenfgdl]

yes but Jean Luc is French not British lol

[@kristinazubic9669]

@@stephenfgdl Jack went to boarding school in London. Idk how they explain Jean Luc 🤣

[@ibrohiem]

@@kristinazubic9669 First season explained it, the Picard family left France after ww2 for a few centuries and only returned recently. Also something in the tng series where the french language wasn't as popular in the future.

[@compmanio36]

In contrast to the rest of the ship, the lights seem to actually work in Sickbay. I guess if you can only have a well lit room one place on the ship, that's where you'd want it.

[@lumberluc]

On emergency power. Most of the functions are being offset by nebula energy

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

I kind of get Picard's attitude here. He now knows that not only did the mother of his child feel the need to hide said child from him until she basically had no other options, but that his son consciously choose to avoid meeting him even once and is only meeting him now because he had no other choice. That is going to feel like quite a betrayal from Beverly (because it is, let's be frank) and a big old indicator that Jack is not interesting in knowing him at all. So all he can do now, is focus on the practical element; how to get all these people out of the mess, that he dragged them into.

[@Sentryman002]

I agree, my friend.

[@TyphonJRT]

Like he didn't make a habit of making decisions for other people or refuse to let other people make decisions for him.

[@user-yr9lt7dz8k]

Kind of like Kirk and his son.

[@compmanio36]

@@TyphonJRT About their children? Their family? And he was the Captain. It was his job to make decisions for his crew.

[@TyphonJRT]

@@compmanio36 The man wouldn't even let his own doctor cut him open, don't tell me he's not being a massive hypocrite.

[@richardhalligan7900]

Picard: His accent? Crusher: He studied in London and he never shook Me: Good Boy 👍

[@THEC.O.VISIT.]

Wow. That scene was powerful. Will always trying to be reasonable and Picard cold, thaaat is the Picard I know.

[@marknoonan4720]

Well I guess when Jean Luc said there will be no more Picards after Robert and Rene were killed in the fire in Star Trek Generations he was wrong.

[@EvanCops]

things change mang

[@ricebrown1]

No one's ever really gone.

[@thiagodeandrade7081]

How old was Doctor Crusher? Did the Federation extended women's fertile years as tit extended human lives?

[@dustinparker9456]

It shows the writers of Kurtzman Trek never seen Star Trek before.

[@Wachtier]

@@thiagodeandrade7081 Weak modern trek writing aside, presumably the excuse is the nonsense fountain of youth energy they were all exposed to in Insurrection reversing or delaying menopause (even though that still doesn’t cover the fact that women don’t make more eggs, so there’s still slight of hand/handwaiving involved). It would have made more sense if she had said she did it on purpose (at which point technobabble and future tech assumptions do the work), but she at least implies it was unintentional.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

0:04 - 0:14 Who wants a TNG spinoff called "Dr Crusher, Medicine Woman" or "Dr Crusher, Medical Frontier"? 😉

[@IndomitableT]

Now that is a wonderful idea❣️ Any writing aspirations? Many would thank you.☺️🖖🏼

[@bcs2em625]

This is in some ways a recycled story of David Marcus, the son that Dr Carol Marcus had with Capt Kirk and kept hidden from him. The idea that there’s really a vendetta against Picard much like the one against Kirk that Khan and later on the Klingons had directly leading to David’s death are being set up here in Jack’s story. Even his not seeking out his father when of age recreates David’s disdain for his father James Kirk.

[@richarda29]

Quite so. A way to add a new angle onto a beloved captain the audience has known for decades. Sure, the stories differ slightly, but the fundamentals are near enough. There's one critical difference: David Marcus was introduced in Star Trek II, five whole movies before Captain Kirk died. Stewart's been clear at the outset that this is Picard's last hurrah. Dragging an illegitimate son around wasn't practical for Kirk. There's no such problem here. This is the writers getting to do what they wanted to do the first time without the logistical baggage.

[@DrewLSsix]

Except Kirk always knew about David and David about him.

[@carriew5106]

Except Jack did seek JL out, but misunderstood an overheard conversation about family. The concept of family, and what it means is explored throughout the series.

[@Wizardof]

Were they ever together, Were they going to be? You had your world… and I had mine. And I wanted him in mine… not chasing through the universe with his father.

[@patrickgriffin6810]

seriously... thats the exact thought process I had watching this. Rip off of Star Trek TWoK

[@Spock4771]

​@Patrick Griffin except in WOK Kirk new hear picard didn't different sinaros

[@Wizardof]

@@patrickgriffin6810 They might sneak the USS Voyager out of the SF Museum , backwards, in order to do something...

[@ibrohiem]

There was an episode where they where linked mentally then things got romantic. So he probably dicked her down every now and then.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

0:23: Hmm, so Jack is being jumped by Chakotay and his ex-Maquis crew? 😏

[@kristinazubic9669]

Prodigy crossover! 😂

[@blueskybelyr]

The one real downside of this season is that it implies the TNG crew had basically nothing to do with each other for 25 years. As if Deanna Troi or Picard would let Beverly disappear without a trace, not suspecting foul play. As if Picard and Riker wouldn't know the faces, names and ages of Geordi's children. The cast is so close, I wish their characters were too.

[@uncletaylorify]

Even though Star Trek likes to refuse to admit it StarFleet is a military organization. In the military you can serve with people for years but when your time is up you go your separate ways and may never see each other again.

[@Icybubba]

​@@uncletaylorifyalso everyone EXCEPT Beverly stayed in contact with each other so that is pretty good

[@cmj0929]

@@Icybubbaexactly, even if it was just a yearly check-in

[@rjh7101]

Wish they didn't kill Rikers son off-screen. Would have loved to see the children of the Enterprise D/E taking over where their parents left off.

[@AzguardMike]

Beverly trying to sound like she gave Jack a choice, but bare in mind they spent his whole childhood running from attacks with her saying "This is because Jean Luc is your father, its all his fault!" and so on. Did Jack *really* make his mind up and choose, or was he gaslit by Beverly the toxic mother? Speaking from experience.

[@normansawatzky4778]

This was done to my own children...evil minded people get away with this all the time.

[@jooie444]

Wow! What a dick thing to say. The next episode you know why he didn't want to meet him because he did and Picard more or less said Starfleet is the only family he needed. Nothing to do with ' toxic mother'. Sorry if you had a bad experience but you shouldn't make 'toxic' assumptions.

[@eissbott]

@@jooie444 the questions was did he every feel the need to have more of a family outside Star Fleet... lets see at the time of the question, he was the last of the Picard line that he knew, brother, sister in-law and their kids dead, all his prior relationships have seemed to have failed. so his answer makes since. he made great deep, long lasting friendships with people he was close to from his time in Star Fleet. to him that is all the family he gets and needs.

[@UnlimitedFlyers]

Gaslighting is a fair point; I don't think the writers were equipped to consider that possibility, nor it might be addressed within Star Trek. You raised a point worth asking them, really.

[@AzguardMike]

@@UnlimitedFlyers thank you

[@BigAntTVMedia]

That ensign looking out the window was cute

[@darrellhall6622]

Sounds a little bit like Indiana Jones with his son. Never knew he had one.

[@lucasbachmann]

1:08 ouch my eyes - actual lighting.

[@GilesMcRiker]

Love it! This is great after-school special, Teen star Trek drama!

[@ericthecyclist]

I find it hard to believe that a culture can have warp engines and not the ability for men to control their own fertility.

[@Ooilei]

Canonical proof that Captain Picard has a British accent and everybody hears it and his son also "inherited" it. Basically proof Captain/Admiral Picard is British, because it's in his DNA

[@drxshock6957]

The previous season also confirmed his ancestors moved to the UK following WW2

[@OnafetsEnovap]

@@drxshock6957 Right, and they wouldn't return to Chateau Picard for at least another century, if memory serves.

[@WendyMyFairOne]

Beverly was wrong for not telling Picard about Jack because... Picard took Wesley (her son with her husband Jack) under his wing.

[@Katka1979]

Exactly.

[@Icybubba]

And Wesley made his own decisions, Picard was not at fault.

[@erikberg8098]

It would be pretty hard for Picard & Crusher to find their way back to love at this point after all that, but who knows? With so many tv shows bringing back 1980s pop songs it feels like…maybe… a scene of them slow dancing in the 10 Forward Bar to some Phil Collins would be appropriate. Maybe “Against All Odds”? Cheesy, I know, but last season they had Jurati singing Pat Benetar! Why not?

[@zwill8882]

I don't think this was intended to be some sort of romantic Picard/Beverly crusher get back together thing. At least that isn't how I interpreted the dialogue here.

[@erikberg8098]

Looking back months later I agree, its highly unlikely and improbable. Too much time, too hurtful. They can still have a measure of love for each other in their hearts, still love the son they share, still re-start a friendship that goes back so long....without falling head-over-heals in love again like some rom-com.

[@geraldpatterson3903]

"Maybe it's in his DNA"..😂😂😂😂

[@mitche5007]

Jack is actually a Borg😊

[@fatman123526]

Beverly says she told him who he was and where to find him. Did she ever tell him that she was the one who explicitly never told Picard of his son’s existence? Or did she leave it implied that Picard just never made time to be around? She is still hiding a lot. I expect Picard will calm down and eventually listen to Will and have the conversation with Jack. And hopefully they both realize how much Beverley was leading them around by the nose.

[@girl1213]

As it turns out, it was because Picard felt he already had family and Jack never told him he was his son when he said that to him. Jack misunderstood Picard's meaning of why Starfleet was Picard's family and didn't know that he could have easily been a part of it had he just asked.

[@Wizardof]

Carol Marcus and Kirk at Genesis Cave!!!!!!! Roman Brady and Kate Roberts Salem 2003!!!!!

[@dj1NM3]

LJ Picard is a Frenchman with a posh English accent and he thinks Jack's accent is odd? "Shear fucking hubris!"

[@plspriska]

If anyone wants to read an actual picard crusher love story, look for “la femme de la vie”

[@heatheradams4221]

I am sure they added on the ten or twenty years. No one who says not too, ever really means it.

[@ChrisS-no3ft]

Notice that Raffie calls Picard "Jean-Luc" in season 3? She NEVER calls him "JL". Thank God! The writers KNEW that he was being written and the way characters were written off of him wasn't right. Not even Riker or Beverly, who knew him the best, ever called him a nick name like that, yet a cadet with a rap sheet he's known for a year gets to call him that? Nope. I'm sure you were just abbreviating here for a short title. I'm not criticizing you. Kurtzman never understood Trek or its characters and seemed to think modern 2024 language works in Star Trek, and it doesn't in most cases. Picard wouldn't like being called JL. I'm glad Terry Matalas and his writers got rid of that ridiculous nick name. It was inappropriate for the character. As far as this scene, its great, and we really get to have that "who's side is right" argument in Trek again. You let the audience make up their own mind. To me, they were both right, and had good points. Season 3 ROCKS! PLEASE BRING US STAR TREK: LEGACY RUN BY TERRY MATALAS!!!!

[@jameschou7342]

Raffi also stop taking drugs around the same period...

[@joetruth5924]

So Jack and Wesley are half brothers?

[@andyhull9182]

Why is the camera shaking even when they just talk in a corridor :

[@LGranthamsHeir]

0:01 - 1:50 Good to see a Picard/Crusher's conversation after all these years. But things seem to be odd. Beverly's tone is more formal and distant. She does not greet him by "Jean-Luc." And I sense she's hesitant to tell him the whole truth about Jack's origins and why everyone seems to be chasing them. It is understood that after their romance fell apart Beverly no longer feels any attachment to him. Still it's a very odd conversation to see esp for P/C fans.

[@jooie444]

They are bound to be strained first of all, even with their long history. Plus we have another 7 episodes for them to become closer.

[@knighriderredux]

If there's one plot hole from this conversation that wasn't addressed in the end, it sounds like Changelings not only infiltrated Starfleet, they're also amongst Klingons and Fenris Rangers

[@ninelegyak]

Good point. Could set up a later plotline, although probably the tech Beverly used to weed out Changelings got shared across the quadrant.

[@notabannedaccount8362]

He’s not Picard, he’s “JL”.😮

[@techniqueswithtodd]

Don't worry about the Shrike, they will forget they have a portal weapon and then we can just blow up the ship.

[@JounLord1]

Picard clearly didn't like being reminded that as a proud Frenchman he's got a clear British accent and his son inherited it.

[@2Scribble]

Nice nod to that meme about Picard being the most 'British' Frenchmen you'll ever meet xD

[@DrewLSsix]

Trek has a whole mess of messed up accents, Scotty doesn't sound like any Scott in our world, Uhura is supposed to be native African and sounds like she was raised in California, my head canon is that WWIII was a lot worse than we have been told, Scotland obviously took a heavy dose of radiation, turning the population a bit eccentric and effecting their ability to talk right, France, being a major part of the EU likely got severely bombed and lost much of its population, while the British people had to flee across the channel due to famine on the over populated island. Thus the French accent became heavily influenced by British refugees, was the Picar dfamily among those or were they established French citizens already? Who knows. Why do Kenyans sound like Americans? Idunno.....

[@Crunkboy415]

@@DrewLSsix Yes, he did explain in the second season the Picard family did exactly that, escaped to England during WWII when the Nazis invaded and only came back centuries later. What's even stranger is the fact Picard's ancestors weren't even originally French, they were Spaniards. His ancestor was one of the Spanish Conquistadors that wiped out the Aztecs in the 16th century. This was mentioned in TNG series.

[@stephenfgdl]

How can it be in his DNA he's tecnically French!

[@pferreira1983]

Dark, blurry and haze. 😆😆

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Is it just me or do I sense that Dr Crusher is hiding something about Jack's origins and the real reason everyone was chasing him? Her tone seems to be guarded, even to Picard, "the only person she trusts" she seems hesitant to tell him the whole truth.

[@blankenbeckler1]

I still say she made good of Shinzon's/Picard's DNA via artificial insemination. Maybe Lore and Moriarty can offer some insight. Hell, it could be the Dominion and Mirror Universe agents working together. All I know is that I'm tuning in on Thursday every week until we're given an ending we deserve or we're confirmed season 3 is a two part storyline

[@burtonryan50]

​@blankenbeckler1 Well this is science fiction and the 25th century. So I would not put it past the advancement in medical technology. I'm only disappointed that they borrowed this plot theme from Wrath of Khan. After God know how many TNG episodes they made that stood alone, they still looked to past stories for inspiration.

[@frankz5103]

@@burtonryan50 not really, Kirk knew about David his whole life, Picard had no clue.

[@burtonryan50]

@frankz5103 I get that totally, but I mean is that it's the same idea of the long lost son coming into the hero's life during a crisis.

[@stevefreeman9265]

I was thinking the same thing

[@weixia5577]

It would have been funnier if she said he went to school in France BAHAHAHA

[@zenfox1979]

Picard, a french man with an english accent asks about his sons accent haha.

[@levondarratt787]

always weird they made him FRench..... made no snese

[@RicktheCrofter]

The character was created, (as French,) before the actor was casted. Picard was named after the Swiss family Piccard, a family of explorers, scientists, balloonist, pilots, etc.

[@anastgouz3734]

A FRENCH WILL BE OLWAYS A FRENCH

[@seanwhitman8353]

2:00 What did he say?

[@phua1543]

"Walk with me, Will"

[@Agent77X]

Filming is still very dark! No lighting it seems.

[@patrickschulz2193]

you saw how much the lighting flickered when they tried to turn up the lights at 1:03? Clearly, the retrofit took liberties with the EPS grid and it can't handle running the lights at full power.

[@tred6292]

This show has been getting some good personal moments this season. Respect for its characters and good interactions from what I’ve seen so far. But can they stop trying to make it like StarFleet doesn’t care about its outer worlds already. “Planets that StarFleet has forgot about” my foot. StarFleet has such a big fleet so that they can support and help aid ALL their member worlds. You send out a distress signal from the most remote planet in the Federation and you’re guaranteed to have a dozen ships in orbit in minutes. This season of Picard deserves a lot of credit so far, but I won’t tolerate bad mouthing StarFleet. Lower Decks has played that card since its first episode, and that’s why I don’t watch that show. Picard can’t make the same mistake.

[@2Scribble]

I mean, Starfleet was perfectly happy to let the Cardassian's rape and pillage the bajorans until the bajorans threw the Cardassian's off their planet THEMSELVES and were suddenly in possession of a vital trade route... And that's just *one* example It's easy to be a saint in the core worlds of the Federation - in Paradise... ... ... not so easy to do it on the front lines

[@ChaosSepher]

@@2Scribble Speaking of the Cardassians, let's not forget the whole idiocy of their treaty that ended up with numerous Federation colonies on the wrong side of a redrawn map and the messes that caused.

[@Madeintheshade65]

Wait Jack her husband I thought he was dead it was clearly established in TNG.

[@siewheilou399]

A London accent? In the 25th century?

[@smcneal057]

This seems out of character for Beverly...🤔 There's a lot more going on here, and I wonder what this has to do with the Changelings?

[@2Scribble]

She lost her husband to the same things trying to kill Picard She lost her son - her parents - even her grandmother - to stars she'll never know And every day - every moment - she served under a man that she *also* loved who could have been taken by *exactly* the same forces Seems *very* in character

[@chaz32]

Lol ‘Fenris Rangers’? Did I hear that right? How derivative…

[@2Scribble]

Literally a plot point in the first two seasons of Picard Seriously Seven served with them until they started being less 'independent marshals' and more 'violent terrorists'

[@WashashoreProd]

@@2Scribble I suspect that the Rangers are not the best-organized group. Some units may be good, but there's probably nothing to rein in the bad ones.

[@davidgriffiths7696]

Yes but Beverly he doesn’t look like Picard either!

[@patrickbowers8359]

It's not Picards kid

[@remus80]

Such a cop out by Beverly.

[@Wulfman317]

Jack > Wesley

[@danwarb1]

Lip filler has never looked good.

[@levondarratt787]

her whole face is Botoxed and Injected to the GILLS!!! like an alien.... WTF!!!!

[@meggrotte4760]

I don't know why but I just don't like this. I don't know. It doesn't seem like Star Trek

[@pipoo1]

Well the Jack/Beverly/Picard story mimics that of David/Kirk/Carol Marcus in The Wrath of Khan, main difference being Kirk knew of David but deliberately chose not to be involved in his life, a move he regretted when he eventually met him, and he was later murdered by the Klingons.

[@papabear562]

What happened to Gates McFadden. She looks nothing like she did in TNG. She was easily the most beautiful female member of the crew. Now she looks like plastic surgery gone amok.

[@levondarratt787]

it shoudl be made illegal by producers that actors change their faces....her nose bridge looks ALIEN...like in TNG this would have been classed like a Borg drone, or some creature...in 2023....with the DUCK MOUTHS and weird faces we see on Social media, it is almost acceptable...but not in Movies , or good shows...it's too obvious with a good camera....this isn't some selfie video where you can apply filter and QUACK - DUCKLIP yourself through a 30 second KZbin Short... This is Star TRek....

[@ArcticWFox]

This is the worst Trek. What am I watching; grandmother's soaps?

[@pootypump7440]

Yeah well, I'm still interested somehow

[@mambofuego5101]

Women keeping kids away from dads even in the future. Gottit.