Piccadilly Line. Arnos Grove-Cockfosters-Bounds Green. London Underground. 1973 Deep Level Tube

[@beverleydobson3442]

I love the "waffle" It makes for a very relaxing journey. Thank You so much for these videos, I'm going to watch all of them in sequence

[@camotech1314]

"What i really want is control too ring me and say - driver put the train away"... That cracked me up!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ezwages]

I'm really enjoying these vids. thanks

[@neilhoddy7828]

Thanks Dale. I’m saving this for my 55” flat screen tv and surround sound for the fully immersive experience later this evening. Great videos! Keep it up mate.

[@bertspeggly4428]

I went on this section of the Piccadilly line regularly, on 1938 stock. Great to see it in cab view. Thanks!

[@thememphisallstars]

I really love the dusk setting..... ...cracking video cheers Dale ❤

[@seanbonella]

best time to film, morn or night

[@osimodfrance7279]

Thanks!

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

Thank you it is most appreciated

[@LeonClarke-u5l]

I like your video 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@bobbob7877]

great video i now say to my self when iam driving and slowing down off and release

[@ebismusic8813]

Thank you dale for making me less nervous of the tube 😊

[@bryansmith1920]

I'm a 70yr old retired Brit HGV driver, I found Railcowgirl on YT, and am absolutely chuffed to find You, I'll try not to breathe down your neck as I stare out the windows, Lead on McDuff

[@TMBK4]

Hi Dale, I'm a member of staff on the East end of the line. Love your vids mate. I was on your train the other night but was in a hurry😂. Next time I'll be sure to say hello😁

[@BookOfJames1]

Oh, Dr. Asperger, why do I love these videos so much?

[@pitman4121]

Why? because you have good taste Sir!

[@KeithJones-yq6of]

You're a legend, Dale. Never fancied going heavy rail and overground?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

Not now. I couldn’t take the pay cut or learn any thing new 🤣🤣

[@KeithJones-yq6of]

@@dalecharmantravels8057 You seem very clued up. Always a pleasure to watch your work. No way on earth would any TOC / FOC allow you to do what you do. Credit to your bosses

[@davidline2454]

Hi Dale, watching this at home after DJing for my crowd 0215 Sunday morning. Love your videos, thanks for sharing a unique insight your job!

[@MrDavil43]

I enjoy your videos way more than I thought. The Piccadilly Line was the line of my teenage years, although it was just a means of getting to the London steam sheds. In the view of Cockfosters Depot you can make out the houses in Westpole Avenue, one of which was lived in by a railway enthusiast who had old signs and number plates from GWR locos bolted to his garden wall just feet away from your trains.

[@StuAnderson90]

Dale "they came on harder than expected" Me "ooh matron.. what is this carry on London Underground" 😂

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I would love to hear Sid James on the front of a train with that laugh of his 🤣🤣

[@seanbonella]

A nice distraction from England match....😂😂😂😂😂 ...and not just because im Irish 😜😜😜😜😜 Great video Dale

[@seanbonella]

whoever replied i cant see it ps engerland were rubbish too

[@Lisbonized]

Even though Southgate was a cheeky reminder 😂

[@seanbonella]

@@Lisbonized plus Dale heart my comment then took it off, maybe maybe not hahahaha

[@camotech1314]

Didin't England just get lucky?

[@Lisbonized]

@@camotech1314 they got lucky in the qualifying stages! 😂

[@BevMattocks]

When I lived in London in the early 1980s, the Bakerloo line still ran the red (with red and green interior) 1930s trains. Have you ever driven one? The Northern line still ran trains with wooden window frames. (And escalators were still wooden 😩😩😩)

[@martyn6792]

Those videos of unusual movements like sidings are always interesting together with your commentary

[@raygarrood3546]

Thanks Dale. Just found your channel. Takes me back to around 1961 (I was about 5) and I used to drive the 30s stock from Wood Green to Finsbury Park !! With my dad who worked as a guard in the 50s . Really enjoy the videos. Some great memories. 👍👍 PS im 69 now and dad no longer with us.😢

[@Xipheas]

You used to drive the train when you were 5? Impressive!

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I am sorry to hear that

[@twentyrothmans7308]

Thank you, Dale. I don't get up to that end of the line. As a fellow BA flyer, I look forward to your NYC trip.

[@johnvitrano5401]

Those dark tunnels would give me the creeps! Beautiful subway system though.

[@jonathanparry9505]

Dale, thank you once again for your interesting video. Happy driving

[@trevorhoughton863]

Brilliant as always Dale - Thank you & look forward to the next one 👍

[@davidbird4713]

Hi Dale, fantastic commentary and great video, no mater how many times you travel over the line, it is always interesting. Stay safe.

[@KGSELD]

Nice one Mr Dale keep on posting more videos

[@steveastill997]

another great video I seem to learn something new every time looking forward to the next one

[@grahamkent2868]

Great video as always!

[@michaellittlejohns7968]

Great video dale

[@Lisbonized]

Always loved the fact that you can see the portals from the platform at Southgate

[@krystalpeck1313]

Great video as always, looking forward to seeing New York & Thailand videos if you're able to 😊.

[@Ian-Steele]

Thanks Dale for another fascinating video, informative as ever. I note you say you’re going to Bangkok to ‘Let your hair down’. I think you and I would both have a similar problem in letting our hair down 😂 👨🏽‍🦲

[@IndaloMan]

These journeys remind me of the late 70s when I worked at STC New Southgate (by ECML). I used Cockfosters and Arnos Grove for my trip back to KX and then Leeds #goodolddays

[@SuperloopSL9-u4e]

Nice one Dale

[@squirrelwood8008]

One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster The bars are temples but their pearls ain't free :)

[@MarkE-ICM0-4001]

Nice video Dale. Greetings from Holland 😁👍

[@warrentimothy2276]

Love the view towards Southgate!

[@johnkent-thanet-uk]

I truly love your videos, you manage to make each and every one interesting and a joy to watch. I'm a country bumpkin and don't visit London too often and have always felt nervous using the 'tube'. Watching your videos has given me an awareness that I had previously lacked, I'm sure my next trip to London (late July) using the 'tube' will be a far more relaxing affair 😏😏 Thank you for sharing your videos with us 👍🏻

[@Slycockney]

Excellent videos, love them. Cheers Dale.

[@oober2004]

Great little video, Dale. Really enjoyed. Cheers.

[@DarrenSaw]

Had to wait until Monday night to get the full half hour to watch this one with a distraction this week! Great commentary as always.

[@debbie3923]

Just want to say thank you, Dale. I love all of your videos ❤

[@iankr]

Great video, Dale. Many thanks.

[@SeaUsername]

love your commentary. great video thanks

[@johndean5251]

Great Ride

[@NoddyMaccy]

I was out with one of your colleagues and TM’s yesterday. Wonderful bunch at Cockfosters!

[@georgearchambault6185]

Thanks Dale for the video, again learned a few things. Please keep the vids coming... till next time !

[@scoopjeff]

Great video Dale, again massive respect to you mate for your professionalism, im sure you would make a great trainer, job for the future

[@CaptainBuzzBee]

Really enjoy your videos. Train transit, and airplane Nerd from the Rocky Mountains!

[@2010ditta]

Thanks Dale...very enjoyable. All the best.

[@weetabix2]

Thanks again Dale…..was looking forward to a new posting🎉

[@Mark-ud9ir]

Nice one dale great video again

[@Jeff034]

Love your vids mate. Thks!

[@MrLewis555]

What a welcome surprise, lovely video :)

[@thechilledonion9313]

Cheers mate.

[@BigLebowski2000]

19:10 45 I am doing 4 to 5... funny stuff😂

[@royhorn9412]

Love these videos, Dale.

[@TheTraindriver85]

Loved Southgate, great memories of going to a school in that area, it’s playing fields backed onto the tunnel coming into Southgate eastbound/ leaving westbound, used to throw stones at the trains on our break, and hauled into the headmasters office in the afternoon as the drivers obviously complained.

[@silentflier5144]

Just been re-watching this and noticed that there seems to be a time warp at Cockfosters! At 11:30 the digital clock to the left is 9 seconds fast compared to the one on the right. Isn't modern technology wonderful 😃

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

Some stations are even worse. I think it’s T5 one clock is about 4 hrs behind or is it 20 hrs in front

[@SimonHarling-Willow]

You should drive the first 24' stock train because it would be a realy good video. Another good video idea would be an Arsenal FC home game video (except the seasons over rn). Also, I will be at the day of the final 73' stock, so I would love you to drive that to. :D

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I will be driving the new 24 stock once they arrive and I have had the training

[@lawrencecarlin4309]

Brilliant mate

[@RJPeacock]

Regards your NYC trip, you can take the Amtrak Acela from New York Penn Station to either Boston or Washington DC. Both cities are worth a visit. Several visits in fact. If you travel to Boston you will experience the networks fastest line and a good deal of history at the end of the line. If you visit DC, upon exiting Union Station you will be at the footsteps of the US Capitol and a stone's throw from the greatest free show on the planet, namely the museums that compromise the Smithsonian. Start at the Air & Space museum where America keeps some of its best toys!! DC is not marketed as a tourist destination but it really is a hidden jem.

[@limeyfox]

Interesting discrepancy between the digital clocks at Cockfosters 🙃

[@MM0IMC]

11:55 Seems that the digital platform clocks don't agree with each other! 😂

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

That’s the railway for you 🤣

[@curiousaustriantours6962]

You were close to where I was at that time! Hilarious! Great video!

[@davidstone408]

On the overnight sleeper, maybe there will be some tickets becoming available as sudden change in MPs in Scotland

[@andydredlox8686]

Loving the videos, always wanted to be a tube driver but unfortunately I live up north.... I was well chuffed when Train SIM ( on Xbox) had the bakerloo line on it.. and really enjoy and find it quite realistic.. Have you ever tried any commercial Train or Tube simulators (not the professional ones on tfl) ?? And how realistic do you find them?? I'm sure there's videos of them on KZbin

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I’m not one for video games so I have never played the train sims. 5 days a week on the front of a train is enough 🤣

[@davidpemberton9326]

Always enjoy your videos and it's slowly teaching me your signaling systems over there. Hope you can film more and keep us updated on the construction of those new sidings near Cockfosters. I would enjoy seeing them slowly built. You have mentioned the NEW SIGNAL'S for the new trains coming they just seem to be a version of a DWALF SIGNAL or are they something totally different?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

No they are just contacting signals. They are lower as the visibility on the new trains is reduced

[@cowslaw]

I just discovered your videos Dale, these are amazing, thank you so much for sharing! Have you ever made a video with a head-mounted camera? I think it'd be super cool to see that perspective, if possible!

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I’ve not. I don’t thing that would look very profesional

[@cowslaw]

@@dalecharmantravels8057 I gotcha, I kinda just meant to be able to see what you are doing!

[@robertmee9759]

Another great video as always, informative and interesting. One thing I've not seen out all your videos is I've not seen you go through a washer, is that done by depot staff or do drivers like yourself go through leaving depots. Keep up the great work uploading content

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I have filmed going through the wash before. Here is the link Ever wanted to know how we wash the trains? Stabling the train at Cockfosters. Piccadilly line kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3S0aYmjhdqMrJo

[@robynrox]

11:30 Interesting to see that there are two clocks and that they are about ten seconds different from each other. I wonder if something like that ever causes problems?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

Not really. A lot of the clocks are wrong. You can easily make up a little bit of time if the clock you are using is wrong

[@BevMattocks]

Question: before modern electric coloured signals, how was the underground signaled?

[@Alex_Fella]

Are you allowed to wear any type of ear protection when going through the noisy tunnels? Obviously you need to hear alarms and such but surely it can damage your hearing when you're going through them so often.

[@peteanderson5170]

Another great video, thanks Dale and looking forward to the next one. When the new trains come into service will all the old trains be replaced at the same time?

[@InsaneCoaster]

Thanks for the upload as always! When you swap ends at a terminus, how common is it to find issues on the train (cleaning issues, possible vandalism etc)? Do you have to hold the train until it's rectified? I feel sorry for the staff who have to deal with the inevitable on Friday/Saturday nights!

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

It really depends what the issue is. So if it’s bodily fluids then it will be held or out of service until a cleaner can rectify it. If it’s some thing that could cause injury then the train would be removed from service

[@TikTokBrian]

Another very interesting video, Dale. Many thanks. The slow progress at the beginning was annoying for you and the passengers but made it very interesting for us. As always, your commentary helps us understand everything we’re seeing. I watch your videos in “episodes” - a few stations at a time - so I don’t yet know how this journey unfolds 😀

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

@@TikTokBrian I won’t spoil the fun then 🤣🤣

[@MrAustinPowers]

So if you’re too fast for signal to change do you have to call up control with your tail between your legs.

[@Antti44]

When you brake before a station, do you start with a harder brake and then loosen the brake at the last meters or the other way round? If I remember right, I also recall you saying that you might put it to neutral between the two braking phases.

[@TheLondonTransportDroid]

That’s interesting Eastbound from the middle platform at Arnos Grove, normally the middle is for revers heading back west? Is there still any old 1983 stock at Cockfosters depot? Used to be a few cars.

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

No there are no old stocks at Cockfosters depot. The middle platform at Arnos does get used a fair bit to travel east. More often than not on my last trip I get put in the middle

[@john_smith1471]

I recently had a LT museum trip arranged in the restored 1938 stock tube between Oakwood and Acton Town, but the day before we were notified that because of overnight vandalism to the 1938 stock tube the excursion was cancelled, I wondered where the vandals could have had access to this train, at Acton Town where the museum depot is or was it Oakwood?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I’m not sure if it was in Northfields depot or Ealing Common depot

[@trevorlewis9975]

Hello, I'd be very interested to understand more about the signalling system, particularly how you know which of two co-located signals is 'home' and 'distant'

[@LUAu101]

I'd be interested to know what you mean when you say home and distant because those words mean different things to different people.

[@gregmacaree]

If you're looking at a new Camera, the DJI equivilants are getting a good reputation

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

Thank you I shall look in to it

[@therealxunil2]

Why were the two clocks ten seconds out from one another?

[@russellsawyer2742]

Hi Dale: love your videos. I don't think I have heard you explain why the signal is always red at Southgate?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I don’t know why that one is always red. There’s a few like that. That don’t seem to have a reason for it

[@russellsawyer2742]

@@dalecharmantravels8057 ah that would be why you didnt explain it then 😛. Thanks for replying though

[@jonosadler]

At Signal PM1 (8:12) why do there seem to be two repeaters for signal PM2? Is there any difference between the middle two aspects and the bottom two aspects?

[@LUAu101]

The bottom repeater is a fog repeater. When these were installed they were used only in conditions of poor visibility and would not normally be illuminated. Nowadays they're lit all the time to try to reduce the number of SPADs hence the apparent redundancy.

[@carnaedy]

19:45 - Or worse, depending on the track layout, train positioning and signal wiring, it could even show something as outrageous as red-over-green. Extinguishing the repeater altogether is just a much safer design; you don't need to know what is going on behind the red signal anyway since you don't have the authority to go there.

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

They say the most important signal on the whole line is the one in front of you

[@DrJimi]

Dale, besides the new starter co-acting signals, already discussed, I felt I was seeing some of the line signals having larger/brighter aspects then I recall. Have there been replacements or was this just an effect of time-of-day and/or camera making the lights seem brighter? Some of the multi-homes (a/b/c etc) seemed brighter also. Greatly enjoying your videos - informative and entertaining. Many thanks!

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I can’t say I have noticed any difference in the brightness. Maybe I am just used to them

[@DrJimi]

@@dalecharmantravels8057 Ah thanks Dale. I had read a post on DistrictDave from back in September 2023 that said "Resignalling of the Piccadilly has not yet been funded, this however hasn’t prevented expenditure on new co-acting signals for sighting purposes for the 2024 Stock at nearly every signal." and wondered if further re-signaling had occurred. I also believe I saw some signals close to starter locations that are bagged and X taped. Are those part of future signaling?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

@@DrJimi so my understanding is that the new signals are only co-acting signals. They are lower due to visibility issues with the new trains. Although we have not yet had a brief with regards to it all yet. My understanding is there is no funding for a new system hence why we will be driving the 24 stock manually

[@DrJimi]

@@dalecharmantravels8057 Gotcha. Thanks!

[@LUAu101]

You'll probably find a lot of the lamps have been replaced with LED 'bulbs', although I can't confirm that. But that would explain signals appearing brighter than you remember. Even NR's semaphores have LED lamps these days

[@arjansandhuynwa9117]

Hi Dale, can you record the section between Hammersmith and Acton where you stop at Turnham Green?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

There is a video of the east bound. I have recorded stopping in the west bound. That should be out next week ( I think )

[@arjansandhuynwa9117]

@@dalecharmantravels8057 👍

[@patrick7055]

Thank you for the video :) Question, have you had anyone recognize you from youtube during work to say hello?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I have. 3 or 4 people have come and said hi

[@S1deep160]

did it say minor delays due to spad at Southgate and oakwood on thr radio?

[@S1deep160]

today

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I wouldn’t have thought so. They don’t say there has been a spad. They say signal issues

[@alastairgordon-forbes3139]

Cockfosters-Heathrow-Cockfosters. Wow, that’s quite a pull. What time did you finally clock off? And how do you get home from there at that time of the night? I love your videos. My wife thinks I’m mad. 🤣

[@alfsallander3400]

5:00 Will the new Piccadilly trains be faster? West bound do you add some word to determine if the train is heading to Uxbridge or the Heathrow terminals?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I don’t know what the plan is with the speed of the new trains. I guess the testing will help determine what they can do. Do you mean for the digital voice announcer? If so we use codes for the stations and route

[@alfsallander3400]

@@dalecharmantravels8057 You said that in your work you call it west and east, 4:46 to delineate the heading. To make clear which of the west bound branches do you add south and north or some other term for Heathrow and Uxbridge?

[@telhudson863]

One time I was on a platform and a train came out of the tunnel before the previous train had completely left the station. The new train came to complete halt with 3 cars out of the pipe. It then moved at walking pace to the normal stopping point. Could this be a legal move on the Piccadilly Line and if so, how would it be signalled?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

Not sure it may have had a spad. What station was it?

[@telhudson863]

@@dalecharmantravels8057 I'm not sure (it was a few years ago) but I think it was Chancery Lane. It certainly wasn't on the Piccadilly Line. (So not your fault 😁)

[@TrainBusFanUK]

Wow that sounds eerie...

[@fredsmith6725]

Thanks for the cab ride Dale. Great edit. Just one question at 12:35 there are two clocks which display a 10 second difference. Is that intentional?

[@londonlore5881]

Agreed - I came to ask this very question.

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

No they are often wrong or out of sync. One at T5 is several hours behind the rest 🤣

[@londonlore5881]

@@dalecharmantravels8057 Lolz! 🤣 Thanks mate. ok, which timepiece do you use to run the train to time then?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

Most of the time it’s the Green signal. However at places like Heathrow I just use the clock that I can see from the cab. Unless I know it’s way out

[@Otacatapetl]

I don't know if you've already answered this Dale, but do you have maximum permitted driving/duty hours, and minimum breaks? Great video as always, you get the commentary just right.

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

So it’s a max of 8 and a half hrs a day. Max 4.15 driving time before a break. We have to have a minimum of 30 mins break

[@George-jz9fk]

Nice one dale. I just wanted to ask ,why did they take the points out on the District line local by any means? When you could, could Piccadilly line Trains run down to Richmond and Wimbledon? Can the Piccadilly line also potentially get onto Bakerloo line tracks up to Harrow and Wealdstone?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

I can only assume it’s to do with the district running ATO ( although they are still driving manually in theta section). We could have gone to Richmond but not Wimbledon. The tracks for Wimbledon is some where near Earl’s Court. As for the Bakerloo there are no direct places from the pic line. Maybe from one of the other lines. As we could go down the met/northern:vic lines. ( there are points to run on to those lines) I hope that makes sense

[@idlewise]

@11:53 clocks left and right about 10 seconds difference! Do you not have a centralised time code? How do you know if you're running on time or not?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

The clocks only give you a rough idea. So many are incorrect. There is time built in to the timetable that if you are a few minuets late you can make it up

[@watson956]

0:39 At Arnos Grove to the left of the track, what does the "D off" sign mean?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

That’s for the sleet operation trains. So hen it’s cold it will say D on so if you are driving a sleet operational train you would turn on the de-icing fluid and sleet brushes

[@PerthLuxury]

Petition to rename Southgate station to Nogate Station. Regards the teasing Aussies.

[@Vizorgz]

Why are the clocks at Cockfosters (12:36) 10 seconds apart?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

The clocks are hardly ever correct. The one at T5 is hours behind the rest

[@trevorlewis9975]

...and what is the red object with a white diagonal cross at the platform end?

[@dalecharmantravels8057]

If that is the red with The letter T and a cross through it. That is to say the tunnel telephone and/wires are not operational