Pickup truck guys spoke. I listened.

[@CityNerd]

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[@williamdowling7718]

Because I'm a masochist, I guess?

[@rayzhang3425]

14h ago??

[@jakobiigreene]

I came to the comments during the ads haha

[@timeformegaman]

Dunno of this was mentioned, but Hbomberguy does a video on the soy stuff you were mentioning.

[@n085fs]

How dare you assume I watched the video. I start it playing and while the yapping for nothing is going on, I read comments for the gems and warnings and rarely does the video play all the way through. Like channel surfing 200+ channels on TV that only show the same 6 shows over and over and over and over and over.

[@GAofthe612]

"I'm sure this person is extremely pro government regulation in a very consistent way." - Pure gold right here.

[@IcelanderUSer]

You mean like telling people they can’t have abortions or marry the people they love.

[@tubro541]

@@IcelanderUSer and gov't telling people how long they can live or allowing government to kill people (Capital Punishment, and telling other countries what they can and can't do...

[@victorquesada7530]

THANK YOU! That got me the most out of the whole video.

[@patricknelson]

@@IcelanderUSer “Freedom for me, but not for thee”

[@machinismus]

That shit gave me a considerable chuckle.

[@sstrange1973]

My dad just retired as a successful car salesman. His observations about big truck owners always made me laugh, as they were his most consistent sales. He noted that most were rolling multiple loans together and going into massive debt to buy these trucks. He noted that people would end up with a $100k+ loan on a $70k truck or worse quite often. Most of these guys were drowning in car debt, he would quip.

[@adamtedder1012]

At least he thinks they are.

[@sstrange1973]

@@adamtedder1012 Since he's doing their financing, he knows they are.

[@deedeeramone34]

This is true for “luxury” vehicles as well. People buying Mercedes who can’t afford to maintain them or keep a full tank of gas are a dime a dozen.

[@SuperSuperSpork]

​@adamtedder1012 wait, do you think they are brining fake numbers to a car dealership, and making their personal finances appear *worse*? You do know that would increase their interest rate and monthly payment, essentially making them owe even more?

[@chad4858]

The amount of forklift drivers who I know arent exactly raking it driving to work in a brand new f-150 and having to pull overtime because of it is sad

[@sarat6488]

fun fact: the pedals on the for F-350 are spaced further apart than usual to accommodate the owner's enormous CLOWN SHOES

[@verynick]

Lol

[@c1a2t3a4p5i6l7l8a9r]

You know what they say about guys with big shoes.

[@Bluebottlenose]

No, I drive a 1996 f350 and the pedals are normal

[@PaulChillen]

I just sprayed a fine mist of coffee over my laptop as I read your comment. thanks a lot! XD

[@garywolgast2818]

@@c1a2t3a4p5i6l7l8a9r They're clumsy?

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

"It's over CityNerd, I've already drawn you as the wojak and I as the chad"

[@AhDollar]

then you ask what field of construction or landscaping they work in, and they tell you they're an actuarial analyst, or an IT consultant, or otherwise, a desktop crusader of some kind

[@monsieurstalin6841]

I work part time at a gas station. I have started asking pickup truck drivers what type of construction they are in. Makes them feel ridiculous when they say “IT consultant” Edit: lots of people overdosing on copium.

[@lepus6511]

My mom drives a huge full size pickup 40miles to her office job in the next town over every single day...

[@fuckugplus]

Ok ill tell you rigth here, we are IT contractor and without a truck you are not going far, equipment is large, tools take place. I dont just deal in meta idea.

[@McGoogger]

You’re doing gods work

[@tsetserlegch]

Keep it up man lmao

[@Aethid]

@@fuckugplus A van would be better.

[@zorilla0]

Witnessing someone who isn't chronically online trying to decipher the logic behind "wife's boyfriend" comments is absolutely hysterical to me for some reason.

[@Unknown-jt1jo]

He's so good-natured about it, too! Which makes it even funnier.

[@adrianjauregui2281]

My wife and I live in rural Texas. We have an F150 that has been vital to running our goat farm. That being said, I agree with you. So many people in Texas have giant “pavement queens” that are never used for anything but commuting. Our truck is only ever used for hauling necessary farm supplies. Other than that we both drive compact cars for regular commuting. Her hybrid is especially useful for driving in DFW. A final note. The truck culture out here is absurd. These people are obsessed with trucks and have something to prove.

[@MyChevySonic]

If the truck is clean, it's a pavement queen.

[@markolguin8750]

So what? People can’t choose to have a truck unless they use it to work or haul stuff?

[@james-p]

"All truck and no tools" is what I say about them.

[@james-p]

@@markolguin8750 Of course they can. Duh. And I'm free to think they're stupid for buying a fancied up work vehicle ($75K for a Ford Raptor - that can't even fit plywood or sheet rock?) as a family car. But people are free to do that all they want.

[@zaphster11]

Thank you sir for using an amazing piece of technology to it's intended use!

[@Pickle_Panther]

If youre truck is your life, your life is depreciating just as fast as your truck

[@Bluecedor]

I wouldn’t make that comparison. Trucks depreciate a good deal more slowly than cars, either gas or EVs.

[@mrosskne]

cry more beta

[@Bluecedor]

@@mrosskne Curious…what truck do you drive?

[@zelzin251]

@@mrosskneOk gurl

[@mrosskne]

lol seething

[@alexadams-heard1604]

As someone who lives in Texas, I can say with full confidence that most folks who drive oversized pickups generally have very fragile egos. It’s like they’re always trying to prove themselves. So the fact that your video managed to offend so many of them doesn’t really surprise me. Really enjoy your videos, by the way.

[@hyric8927]

In other words, not offending truck owners would have meant the video was an utter disappointment.

[@justinwarthen]

Any sort of criticism is a personal attack. It’s insane.

[@eitkoml]

The pickup truck obsessed crowd are the exact same guys in school who would go around pointlessly berating people and trying to start fights.

[@logwhitley]

It's all the Australian's fault

[@cameronball3998]

For a lot of them, owning a truck is their only personality trait, whether they realise it or not. Not even saying this as a jab, it’s just the truth 😂

[@ItWasSaucerShaped]

Will never forget a classic moment at my grandparents' farm auction: We ran out of space in the machine-yarn-now-parking-lot and had to start parking people in the canola crop. Lots of folks were driving their 'heavy duty' pick-ups. So no problem, right? Except a lot of these 'heavy duty' machines were RWD only and absolutely could not make it into the crop. Had the absolute delight of watching as a tiny, ancient and well worn Hyundai coupe made it in to park just fine, and a colossal DODGE RAM! just spun its tires and refused to cross a pile of fallen stalks. Such muscle! Very utility! WOWE! So quite a few trucks just wound-up hanging-out on the highway, because pavement is the only surface these 'heavy duty' vehicles can actually work on.

[@chrisgoetzman8660]

It's made even funnier when the RWD extended bed truck with fuel-saver tires maybe even *could* get through the slick mud... ...if only they actually used the truck part & had some weight in the pickup bed/on the back wheels 😅

[@Hurc7495]

i'll never forget growing tired of the 10th time an idiot in the SUV failed to make it up an icy hill, I had to pick my moment when he was briefly paused at the bottom so to avoid having him slide sideways in to me. I got up the hill first time without issues... i drove a front wheel drive EV.

[@mattweeks2272]

@@Hurc7495I enjoy these moments. Personally, I do drive a truck and an SUV. But both serve purposes for my line of work. (Sound equipment transport(Dj)/landscaping). If I got paid for amount of times I’ve watched people in trucks and SUVS fail at navigating anything other than pavement, I’d be rich. Simply put, most people are not knowledgeable in how to drive their vehicles. Put them in larger vehicles and they’re just plain dangerous lol. These people think that just because they have AWD or 4WD that they can go anywhere. The irony is that you actually have to know how to handle the vehicle to navigate it. 4WD/AWD is useless 99% of the time if you don’t know how to operate your vehicle.

[@lv1543]

Truck people would rather have a kei or ford ranger or chevy s10 for normal farm use. More practical

[@seananthony7494]

I got a Toyota Tundra that is specifically made to go off road. For this very reason, I think it’s dumb if someone gets a big truck for no reason…

[@cphipps1969]

As a cyclist I can definitely say that when someone is driving aggressively toward cyclists (punish passing, close passing, rolling coal, etc.) it’s almost always someone driving a pickup truck.

[@hagelslag9312]

Irrationally angry and insecure people need the biggest protection themselves. Cannot drive a flimsy vehicle that gets run over easily themselves when they lose their temper.

[@mikhailshaw7030]

truck drivers seem to hate anything that's not huge and wildly impractical. I drive a Mazda Miata and truck drivers will punish pass me and cut me off all the time. they got no chill

[@james-p]

I've seen the change over the years... in LA it used to be the BMW drivers who were the ***holes. Now, by far, it's pickup truck drivers. Not the working trucks, but the fancy ones that never see real use.

[@evanflynn4680]

In my town there's not much in terms of cyclist friendly infrastructure, yet it's a very popular activity here. Every Saturday and Sunday morning has flocks of cyclists out on the roads. Most of them try to do their best with riding safely on a road shared with cars and trucks but there's always a few that make the rest look bad. There's these three cyclists that I see regularly that ride next to each other instead of single file. Annoying and dangerous. Also illegal, like speeding. I pulled up next to them and slowed to their speed, asked them why they're doing it. They said they like to have a chat while riding. I get that sentiment, but if talking is the reason they're doing something, perhaps waiting until they finish the ride and catch up after would be safer? Aside from that, I see a lot of people being dangerous assholes when passing cyclists. Even seen someone wait to open their car door until a cyclist was passing them. He had to swerve into traffic to avoid the car door. Pure luck he wasn't hit. And yes, the person who waited to open their car door was driving a big vehicle. Not a pickup, as I'm Australian and we don't have many of them. Our asshole driver advertisement is the SUV and the 4WD that you can tell never gets used for 4WDing.

[@deathtrvcker666pl2]

The funny thing is that the snobs behind the wheels of pickups often behave in the same way towards drivers of larger vehicles, for example professional truck drivers. As if they thought their F150 had any chance against a much heavier semi truck.

[@robertstuckey6407]

Its wild to me that people defend rural spaces by simping for suburban excess

[@ucantSQ]

Right? If you actually liked rural spaces (nature), you'd travel there in rural (natural) ways. Humans and horses used to work together. Humans separated themselves from all their natural allies.

[@danlowe]

More like rural America is extremely gentrified and anyone with a decent job just goes to town and shops the same places anyway. We live 55 miles from the closest city and my dad got me a truck for my first vehicle. I turned it down because I didn't want to work to pay for it or buy gas. As an adult I can't fathom how much work I could have done myself out in the back country. I could have dropped out of school.

[@robertstuckey6407]

@@ucantSQ what? I mean is building a suburb out "in the sticks" destroys the countryside and turns it into an ugly grey neoliberal paste.

[@Jacob-od5yo]

​@ucantSQ this is like saying if your socialist why do you use a capitalist phone? I kinda need to drive when I work an hour away

[@CSpottsGaming]

​@@Jacob-od5yoI think it's crazy that you managed to find a part of the US with employment opportunities available but no housing closer than an hour away. Or maybe you didn't and you instead chose to live an hour away from the place where you work.

[@therealhkhan98]

I live in Texas and me and my coworkers often talk about the latest new vehicles. We all started talking about the Hummer EV and everyone was astonished by its specs! I pointed out that it doesn't seem like a great idea for a 9000 lb car to have the ability to go 0-60 in 3 seconds and that it is a huge problem for safety. Everyone got so defensive it was really weird.

[@KingOfKYA]

Yeah your local dealer ships are like 50 to 1 tracks vs anything else so its not surprising.

[@kyleshape8645]

I'm just blown away by the mentality of these people. 0-60? For a truck? A goddamn TRUCK? THIS IS LIKE THE TESLA SEMI ADVERTISING ITS 0-60 LIKE WHO CARES?!

[@InventorZahran]

The fact that it can accelerate so fast while having such poor aerodynamics shows just how scarily powerful the e-Hummer is. Some might say, overpowered!

[@InventorZahran]

The fact that it can accelerate so fast while having such poor aerodynamics shows just how scarily powerful the e-Hummer is. Some might say, overpowered!

[@stefanieneubert4842]

What a colossal waste...to use fuel to propel a 9000 lb vehicle to move a 200 lb human from human A to B. I find your colleagues' reaction to your comments very strange. Don't get it.

[@heated817]

The freedom of choice is so real guys. Ignore the fact that ford has been making their vehicles progressively bigger every year and just cancelled their sedan line

[@lucasdude]

even regular cars are too big now. if i were to ever get a car id just get something from the 80s-90s, or earlier (though those get more expensive). dream car for me is an old stationwagon because theyre pretty small but they have that extra space in the back to haul things (i would actually need something like that to haul my convention merch around to conventions)

[@heated817]

@@lucasdude yea but old cars are scarily dangerous. No air bags no crumple zones no abs no differential no power steering. Theres a reason crash fatalities have gone down dramatically despite car usage constantly going up. But aside all that id never buy an old car because of the cost of gas for a horribly inefficient motor thats gonna need to be rebuilt every few years. You dont have to buy from idiotic American car companies, just get a compact prius if you absolutely cannot live without a car and want something small yet safe.

[@sambob8019]

That is the environmental protection agencies fault their regulations literally encourage this mainly because they're highly unscientific

[@knodel2378]

@@lucasdude I mean you can still very much get reasonably sized cars, brands like toyota are certainly producing smaller cars.

[@Bluecedor]

They got rid of their road cars because buyers went so hard for SUVs that even keeping 1 car model for rental fleets didn’t make sense financially. If everyone is buying trucks, CUVs, and SUVs, of course they’re going to shy away from sedans. Toyota has like 13 different SUV/CUVs. It’s just reality. If Ford could make a killing on any car that wasn’t a Mustang, they would make it.

[@RazvanMaioru]

Their reasoning for having a huge truck is because when they crash into things they'll get crushed less. Have they ever tried, idk, not crashing into things?

[@robertfox4114]

​@@mmm-mmmWhy is he driving towards me on my lane? I'm driving on it - it's my lane!

[@chsi5420]

If they had a smaller car, they would be able to maneuver away from obstacles better.

[@chsi5420]

​@@mmm-mmmI don't think a pick-up is going to save you from a head-on with a semi, you'd have to have an equivalent sized vehicle, like a semi truck. Some luxury vehicles may be able to handle it though.

[@eleanor5561]

And other people will get crushed more...

[@tuomashelin555]

It's amazing how in crash videos the cars that roll over after hitting, for example, a barrier are vehicles with a high center of gravity. Besides, do Muricans use cars as battering rams all the time? I mean, a vehicle with a stiff chassis frame in a crash concentrates the excess energy to the passengers. Your truck might be fine but your body, bones and your insides aren't.

[@iwearleatherjackets1]

Some people think they live in rural America because there’s an empty dirt lot next to their McMansion in somewhere like Orange County, CA lol.

[@ytgytgy]

a lot of them moved to new never ending mcmansion subdivisions in the front range of colorado. I grew up in that area and it was actually rural at one point besides denver/springs/ftcollins/boulder...it also didn't cost a lot to live at because HELLO, the front range next to the rockies has pretty wild unpredictable weather and long winters, + very dry & unpleasant desert like surroundings. But now The springs/Denver/Boulder/FtCollins, 100 miles straight, are all connected by literally never ending subdivisions of fkn mcmansions, areas that all used to be truly rural. Front range colorado I guess gets ranked as a top luxury living destination now, I still don't know why so many rich people would all want to live in such a cold dry environment but it's kicking a lot of people out.

[@littlesnarf]

I like how these dudes attack/question the masculinity of other men. It's so sad, but it also represents a serious problem in our society. I ride a bike everywhere - a touring bike with so many bags and racks on it that everyone always thinks I'm on tour, hahah. Not bragging, either, becuase I need every last bag I have. I also work all week in the dirt, doing sweaty work outdoors, and also in a greenhouse. On top of that, I'm busting ass on my heavy ass bike. This is somehow not masculine, though, and neither are the super fit guys on expensive road bikes. It's such a weird disconnect. I've actually experienced it in person when hanging out with these types of guys before, too. They simply can't understand riding a bike and not driving a car at all. It's this extreme environmentalist statement that is an attack on them. It doesn't matter how working class I am, how tan I am from working outdoors all day, and how little I say about their lifestyle. Talk about triggered.

[@matthewshultz8762]

You're just not in the 'boy's club' bro. You wouldn't enjoy a topless bar either 😆Toxic masculinity is fucked and the association between typical truck owners and their views on what a man 'should be' is really warped. It's almost like they're mad that this is what their life has been reduced to, working a dead-end office job in finance only to get freedom 2 days a week where they get to take their truck out to the lake and look at other women in bikinis while the mother of their children is contemplating a divorce on the boat.

[@Xerxesjc28]

The worst thing is these people harrass or even attack people on bikes. They blow smoke onto bikers, honk their horn to try to scare them, yell obcenities at you, and sometimes like what happened in Texas not too long ago, run bikers over and kill them. Its horrific.

[@michaelstratton5223]

I've always noticed that absurdity too. Why do Americans think pressing a gas pedal with almost no effort is more macho than cranking out all the power your legs will give you to ride a bike somewhere? Should be the total opposite. People in motorized vehicles are the "soyboys" and people who walk and ride nonmotorized bicycles are the ones being tough.

[@florascent9ts]

EXACTLY! The soft pudgy baby men in their big metal cradle that makes them feel safe and BADASS are so much "manlier" than someone who exerts physical labor and is independent, the very ideals they think they possess.

[@smithsmith6402]

Nobody likes to feel inferior. Wasting money on a vehicle you don't need implies you're dumb, and seeing someone do more exercise than you implies you're lazy. For some people that gets expressed as "Those tradesmen/roid monkeys at the gym are dumb and those guys with trucks are posing as tradesmen" while for others it's "Those guys on bikes are posing as athletes/environmentalists and wasting time and money." Of the people I know, ironically the ones who actually need trucks for work don't own them- they drive company vehicles for work instead. But I could make a similar statement about bikes- most people I know who own bikes own one more expensive than mine and barely use it. There's definitely a lot of virtue signaling going on in both groups, they just have different virtues in mind. I think the group with 1500$ dusty bikes in their garage is causing a lot less harm though. Lastly I'd just mention that having worked on a construction site; even there a pickup is rarely filled with cargo. It's more like a couple times a week you might need the space for a bunch of pipes or whatever, and even if you could conceivably fit all your tools in a small car it'd be obnoxious to load and unload each day. And the cargo is going to be from a nearby wholesaler, not from another city. So I don't think a highway is a good spot for judging their use aside from camping trips.

[@joe42m13]

There's a certain type of person who needs to brag about their oversized vehicle to strangers...

[@rauli386]

They normally have size insercurity, wonder why

[@applesyrupgaming]

@@rauli386 generally thats a low brow comment, as not all pickup owners are male. You can mock car brains for being unaware of subsidies or being dumb, or just entitled, but for things they don't control is kind of on their level.

[@panzer_TZ]

Americans like prestige. A couple pops out one baby and they immediately go buy a $50,000+ Highlander or MDX. You should see the parking lot of the private Christian Academy I live next to - I've never seen so many Escalades, Expeditions, Yukons, Highlanders, MDXs, etc. in my life. No one that can afford it is going to buy a Yaris just to save some gas when literally every other family on the block has a RAM, F-150, or Silverado.

[@joe42m13]

@@panzer_TZ when i was in college a guy i knew drove his h2 hummer 1k miles across the country to park it in a lot on our small, walkable campus

[@HamidKarzai]

@@panzer_TZ it's cool how those Christians have zero interest in maintaining or looking after the earth that they think God gifted to them huh

[@DansTravels5823]

As a Texan, I find it funny that so many truck drivers take it personally when trucks are slightly criticized. My main concern is that if someone I care about has a smaller car and is hit by one of these large trucks, they will have much more severe injuries and damage. The attitude of many of the commentators "as long as me and mine are safe, then F you." This is so much the problem with this country today.

[@WhiteOut-]

Literally man, its like it's a personal attack on them. Also a fellow Texan here!

[@burgundygt]

Daniel, I’m seeing the same mindset here in Florida and agree.

[@snickiedude]

Floridian here. I drove a RAV-4 (which was bigger than I've needed at most points of my driving life). Last year I was rear-ended by a Camry doing 45 mph while I was sitting at a red light on a stroad. My car was totaled (due to damage to the frame) but I was mostly unharmed. If that Camry had been an F-150, I don't think I would have fared as well. I'm glad I didn't have backseat passengers.

[@matthewheinecke2621]

Pickup driving Texan here and I agree completely.

[@michaelstratton5223]

Right, and the fact that our roads in the USA are filled with semi trucks kind of makes their reasoning pointless. Any pickup truck will be a pancake if hit by a semi. And the only thing bigger than semi trucks is Amtrak trains so I guess they should ride with their families in an Amtrak if they have such a family fortress mentality. But they probably hate trains more than they love their family, so that's where they draw the line, lmao.

[@uwuaimafemboy8731]

I love the farmers argument, here in France when they don't drive their tractors they're in small kangoo or c15, almost never in pick-ups

[@Luke357]

Last I checked a C15 was a truck.

[@VirtuousMarine]

C15 is less than half the size of an f150​@@Luke357

[@DonnieX6]

@@Luke357 Luke, listen, "France" is the important word here, it is a Citroën C15... 🙄

[@raphaelcaceres9129]

​@@Luke357you're gonna tell me it's as big as an american truck ?

[@Oncipian]

I dislike trucks but unironically need one now to haul my quad ppaces for rides LMAO

[@hinken24]

Hauling stuff around is also a thing in Europe. We rent trailers. Driving a big thirsty truck everyday would be just insane.

[@sarowie]

In germany, I rearly see trailers on privat vehicles. But I mean: That is kind of the point you are making: The trailer can be rented for the one time you need it - it does not need to be driven around as death weight. But on the other-hand: Germany used to hand out some driver licenses like candy. Some old german drivers licenses allow driving much heavier vehicles and a trailer, while the current driver license only allows light 1 axis trailers.

[@Marksman3434]

It’s almost like a person can rent a vehicle or trailer for a very brief time instead of buying it completely for the one or two times in their lives that they’d need to haul some cargo. Who’d have thunk it?

[@iloveanimemidriff]

I distinctly remember seeing mostly vans in Europe being used as commercial hauling vehicles.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

You used to get away without paying motor tax if you owned a traditional Land Rover even the estates configurations. Also why do they not buy van’s for carrying stuff.

[@aaronallblacks]

Yea before I got my Forester I used to rent trailers from U-Haul for my Chevy Aveo but in the minds of pickup owners "Oh you're hitching to a V4 lol good luck" meanwhile myself and plenty of Civic/Camry drivers do just fine daily.

[@Tamingmyimpala361]

Do you notice how it’s always the people who drive $60,000 tanks that get 18mpg who always have the loudest complaints about inflation and gas prices? Like, my condolences???

[@djplonghead5403]

18? We get 12.

[@nobodyimportant7804]

Definitely! I drive a RAV4 hybrid and was out fishing and some dudebro with an F 150 was making fun of me for it because he heard the weird noise it makes when running in EV mode. He also whined about how expensive it was to get out there - I told him it cost me about $8 in gas - round trip. When he left, he had a harder time driving over loose sand than I did when I had a 2005 Elantra with a manual - that little whimpy car was friggen amazing sometimes. I think some of his problem getting out was that he was trying to prove his manly manhood by making sure it made super loud vroom vroom sounds. I was super impressed!

[@nobodyimportant7804]

@chillwill5080 My electricity comes from hydro, wind, solar and nuclear. 99% of it.

[@nobodyimportant7804]

@chillwill5080 And? 10,000,000 cars burning gas is much worse than 10,000,000 electric cars. It lessens the pollution and the amount of oil used, which is a finite resource.

[@emiliocarranza6674]

18mpg going downhill lol that’s something I don’t miss about my truck tbh 😂

[@cooljonathan]

Bikes not being practical in Rural america is more due to the infrastructure than the distances, especially in the eastern US. The town I grew up in New Hampshire is only 1.6 miles from the next town over, but the road between them is practically a highway with a tiny bicycle gutter. I made this trip last time I visited, and while the journey was shorter than the distance of most of my errands in the city, the experience was awful because they prioritize cars over bikes at every turn.

[@mathewadams4094]

Agreed, moved from a large metro area to a small town this year. Foolishly I thought it would be safe to bike to the next town over (30 mins)... turned around after the first 5 mins, not worth my life

[@user-lv6rn9cf8m]

I think we have to separate "commuter cycling" from just regular cycling within your town/city. One is absolutely not for everyone - the other could be. For one you want a really good modern bike, for the other you want a classic old school bike. That said, as long as the area is relatively flat "bicycle highways" alá the Netherlands are doable. You shouldn't need to go to the next town over to begin with. Generally speaking. There will always be exceptions, like maybe you have family there or whatever. But for the general population, the needs should be met within your town. That encourages walkability and cycling - and walking/cycling encourages that type of place. As usual, with cycling. The city planners should do a field trip to Amsterdam or Copenhagen.

[@linuxman7777]

There are some really good trail systems, but most of them tend to avoid most towns, such as the great allegheny passage near me in Pittsburgh, going to washington dc, it is a nice trail, but often avoids the places people want or need to go in the small town areas, it is more focused on connecting Pittsburgh to Washington D.C.

[@user-lv6rn9cf8m]

@@linuxman7777 Not talking "trails" here though. Those will always be for the more hardcore. Do an image search for "bicycle highway netherlands". Also observe what kind of bicycles they are using.

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

@@user-lv6rn9cf8m why shouldn’t someone not need to go to the next town? On bicycle. Even if you don’t have relatives in the next town can be pleasant to bicycle on a well done bicycle path if it’s only a few miles away. In Germany, on weekends we would often ride through through three towns on bicycle paths and stop at one to eat ice cream stop at another for lunch etc.

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

Reminder that any man who accuses someone of "being a beta" is most likely wracked by insecurity about their own masculinity

[@Bluecedor]

1001% It’s a massive self-report. But even more than that, it only serves to to advertise up front how stupid and gullible they are.

[@dellybird5394]

They really aren't beating the "I bought my truck because I am insecure about my masculinity" allegations any time soon.

[@moriyamakyon1067]

Insider info, most guys who offered "a service to my bottom part" were guys that on public do most masculine things and are sooo manly

[@yuran1um]

So, what did they mean by beta?

[@LowenKM]

Yep, and in the same way that a once practical, everyday 'tool' like a pickem-up has now become an essential part of some folks personal 'identity' and manhood... perhaps not 'coincidentally', the same phenom has also occurred to what was formerly just another common 'tool'... aka, _'guns'._

[@aidanb.c.2325]

My dad drove a pickup his whole life until he reached retirement. Whenever he would go to trade in his old truck for a new model, the salesmen at the dealership would hate helping him. Why? Because his old truck would be beat all to hell and therefore have little resale value. And worse, what he always wanted in a new model was a basic WORK truck with no frills. No extended cab, no lift, no giant tires, no fancy seats, display, or radio, and no decorative elements. There was no way they could ever up-sell him into a suburban toy. Being a hardworking carpenter and painter, I don't think he had time to worry about whether he was an alpha or a beta. I think he paid more attention to all the women he dated (who also never seemed to care that he was a vegetarian). And perhaps coincidentally, he never wore sunglasses, only safety.

[@kenbrown2808]

my dad's second to last new pickup was the second cheapest 1-ton with a 4 speed and 454 on the lot. he didn't like the color of the cheapest one. and yes, it routinely carried up to 2 tons in the bed and 3-4 tons off the hitch. his last one was a 3/4 ton because nobody sold a 1 ton 2 wheel drive with single rear wheels any more.

[@schwarzwolfram7925]

Your dad doesn't sound like alpha-material, he sounds like husband-material; and you are living proof that he got laid at least 100% more than any "alpha male" could hope for.

[@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333]

What does wearing sunglasses have to do with the rest of that? Sunglasses are for seeing better when the sun is out.

[@iloveanimemidriff]

A friend's dad is exactly like that. He does drive big trucks, but because they're work trucks, he never gets them fully decked in vapid luxuries. He uses his trucks to visit mines deep within the mountains, and his mileage record is legitimately a round trip from Earth to Moon and back.

[@victorquesada7530]

@@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 Fair question. There's folks who wear them because they don't want to squint all day staring into glare and get a huge headache, and there are those who wear them because it makes them feel intimidating, depersonalized, like an armor over their face. Few who do the latter are aware of it, much less able to confess their true impulse. But if your cover photo has you covering one of the most important parts of your face, like in all the examples he pulled here, what conclusion are we meant to draw?

[@nunyabiznes7446]

"Loving trucks is American, truck love goes back generations-" not sure I'd be bragging about how susceptible my family is to advertising but you do you my man

[@eddieredmann3]

"Generations." The first F-100 came out in 1948. The C10 came out in 1960, and the Ram only came out in 1981. So that's like, at most, 3-4 generations in any family right there. Hell, my grandparents had all been alive for several years when the F100 came out. And they were all adults when the C10 and Ram came out. Hell, my parents were both alive for several years. I'm 24.

[@mrosskne]

trucks are based sorry

[@Chris_at_Home]

@RussOlson-nk3wcI drove crewcab Chevys and Fords 45 years ago for work and my first new vehicle I bought was a 1973 4x4 pickup. I live in a rural area with lots of snow in the winter. I have 3 pickups now.

[@Chris_at_Home]

@RussOlson-nk3wc Big pickups have been around for more than 15 years. My 1998 pickup weights more than my 2012 pickup also.

[@naattxxnaattxx7055]

I get the feeling he was trolling but Im not sure and it worries me

[@dustyrusty75]

The automotive advertising industry has done an amazing job convincing people that masculinity = buy oversized, overpriced truck. The amount of money that people will spend on their toys astounds me.

[@melissamoore6539]

I would LOVE to see an electric car add where a bunch of women are laughing at a guy in a large truck saying "looks like someone's compensating" then they get into a prius or an ebike or something.

[@melissamoore6539]

"With the money he saves on gas, think if where he can take you."

[@melissamoore6539]

Then she hops in the front of his cargo bike.

[@iloveanimemidriff]

It's always easier to just purchase something labeled as "manly" than actually adopting a manly lifestyle or choosing a manly career. If you're a suburbanite and your job is to push papers and sit on a desk, purchasing a truck is so much easier than quitting and getting a physically demanding job or moving to a rural area.

[@krunkle5136]

​@@melissamoore6539 not even. just show a gigachad living his life and driving small cars and normal sized pickups, leaving the heavier jobs to experts who have the sufficient equipment.

[@robbysalz8710]

I never understood why it's seen as "beta" or "weak" to ride a bicycle. I'm literally using my muscles and working out, on the same road where people are sitting in air conditioned vehicles. That makes me strong, not weak lol.

[@Pikkabuu]

Because your bicycle doesn't go "vroom vroom".

[@JustAnotherNamelessGuy]

How else am I going to haul my gigantic ego.

[@DankSi]

Walking is for poors

[@Pikkabuu]

@@DankSi And you just showcased one of the main reasons why transportation in US is a mess. Walking is a very nice way to move short distances. It is cheap, it builds muscles, it is done in a speed that our brains are used to etc.

[@TommyReed44]

As a former Texas resident who now resides in Chicago (carless) you really hit the nail on the head with the anti-social personality observation. I've met countless men in Texas who attach so much of their identity to truck ownership. It's sad really. I think by me owning a Honda Civic I gave permission to a lot of men in my family to downsize into a more economical car because it really does make sense on paper if you're just another suburbanite which most of these truck owners are.

[@dbclass4075]

Sometimes, a smaller car has more usable cargo space than an SUV. Example: Carnival vs. Suburban.

[@insooleedat1asiandude]

​@@dbclass4075yes, all unibody minivans have more interior space than all body on frame suvs

[@brekkoh]

and here i am living in texas desperately pining for a life without a vehicle at all, much less an identity structured around a vehicle

[@Mrwizard-ck7oe]

Same i live here in texas too. Im thinking about getting a motorbike. Its about the closest you can get to not owning a car while still being able to get around in 45mph roads

[@x10sam]

I'm a fellow careless Chicagoan who came from a truck-saturated area. I have never had an issue with farmers and workers owning pickups because they actually use them. Hunters would haul their kills in the truck beds. My grandma often used hers to haul lumber and materials for projects and build and tow boats or trailers. These vehicles had a purpose with them. What I'm seeing more and more is these folks (even in my neighborhood) driving trucks and you know not a single thing will ever go in that bed. It's solely for looking big and shiny. I can't help but laugh when I watch one struggle to parallel park.

[@kho2333]

The amount of truck owners who were shown your video and responded negatively really demonstrates how the KZbin algorithm is tuned to increase engagement even when it upsets someone. P.S. your videos, editing, and dry whit are great! Keep it up.

[@tombraiderstrums09]

Isn’t it more of a sign that the algorithm can’t tell whether something is mentioned in a positive or negative context, only that it’s mentioned?

[@sharedknowledge6640]

It’s worse than it appears as KZbin actively promotes blatant misinformation. Why do many believe 75% of people live in rural areas when the reality is roughly the opposite? Google promotes controversy as it makes them more money and they put users in an echo chamber to seemingly “confirm” their misinformation as it keeps them engaged longer when they hear what they want to hear.

[@scottjs5207]

Or maybe it's a sign that even truck owners want better cities? You can be all for more walkable cities, but not agree on the points about trucks, or the 100% removal of personal vehicles from the roads (such as myself). Me personally, a truck is a utility, so you should only own the amount of utility you need, most trucks now are not good at utility and they absolutely suck to work on to boot.

[@Qay]

@@scottjs5207 _"100% removal of personal vehicles from the roads"_ What roads are you talking about? All roads & streets are a means to get from A to B. When a route has more activity, you often want to prioritize more efficient transport modes so more people can get from A to B. In urban areas, that can mean replacing 'car lanes' with transit-only lanes or pedestrianizing streets, since those modes can be more efficient in dense areas.

[@zSTALKn]

How do you think SSsniperwolf got so popular?

[@jacklindblom9368]

Amazing. I work in rural Wisconsin and commute from Madison and I swear it's some of my coworkers who wrote these comments....3/4 of the spots at work are taken up by enormous trucks of people who live a quarter mile away and complain all day about gas prices. Laughed so hard at this, keep up the great content!

[@CityNerd]

Love it!! Thanks.

[@87wxdiaz]

That's the worst or u see an Escalade with writing on back" first day of college need help with gas" ... Sure I'll trade u my accent for ur Escalade... Oh no u just want free stuff because u got a vehicle u couldn't afford.

[@ShawnGBR]

You're spot on about the people complaining about gas prices when it's their own doing. I've worked in a few warehouses where I've needed to grab a set of keys at short notice to deliver something to a customer or three. Whether it's a small fog light cover for a repair of a car that was in an accident to someone ordering a few sets of ten-ply truck tires and some studded passenger tires that nicely filled the back of an F150 when stacked. And our company vehicles have their speed monitored using GPS software - if we go 5 mph over the limit once, that was a warning. Three times in a six month period, that's dismissal. I got quite a few of the guys to use the map apps that show the Speed Limit signs and to always use cruise control. So there I am for hours at a time on the Interstate, going either barely over 55 or 70 in the area of the state I'm in, and in all the years I've done that I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of vehicles I have overtaken while in a work truck. Thousands upon thousands of trucks have whizzed by me, many with a collection of right-wing bumper stickers, driven by the kind of people that were putting Biden "I did this" stickers on gas pumps as they ensure they get single-digit miles per gallon performance.

[@timnewman1172]

I lived in a rural area with gravel roads for most of my life, and mostly drove compact cars/suv's... I have owned trucks, but they were never my primary vehicle.

[@Matty002]

i dont usually use this word, like ever, but the pickup truck cope is hilarious

[@whatsamazing1531]

Womp Womp

[@mrosskne]

lol beta

[@TheVideoIsLongEnough]

​@@mrosskne Nothing says "alpha" like replying to every comment criticizing trucks to demonstrate your insecurity

[@whatsamazing1531]

@@TheVideoIsLongEnough nothing says “Beta” like liking your own comments.

[@mrosskne]

@@TheVideoIsLongEnough lol seething

[@kr46428]

Decades ago, a friend of mine quipped "The shorter the man, the bigger the truck". It took me a long time to realize they were not always talking about physical stature.

[@S0REN_]

How about not making fun of people's height. I'm 6' 2" and own two trucks, try again.

[@DC3Refom]

​@@S0REN_your still compensating for something though😂

[@DodoNn]

@@S0REN_Read their comment again, to the end.

[@ShawnGBR]

@@S0REN_ ooh, self burn. Those are rare.

[@jasonb6570]

@@S0REN_ Way to completely miss the point lmao

[@davedixon1419]

I live in a small, rural community in the Midwest. Because of this, I can easily walk or bike to work all year round. There are two roads in town that could use a design change to make cars less of a priority, but overall it's perfect for biking and walking. Nothing is further than 1.5 miles away. Sadly, large SUVs and trucks are the dominant mode of transportation.

[@Chappington]

Definitely - like a lot of actually rural towns are actually decently compact and wouldn't take much effort to make bikable. It's really the post-1900 suburbs that force the car centricity

[@AssBlasster]

I have a similar situation in my rural college town. If you live near the central main street, everything is within a 15-minute bike commute. Works wonderfully for me! No need for transit, but we have a free trolley service to take people around campus and town.

[@JoelRipke]

My midwestern city is about 23,000 people. Not a huge footprint. Could be easily walkable and bike friendly. But it's not. Trucks everywhere.

[@styxdragoncharon4003]

I live in a small town in AK... Walking is my main method of transportation. My wife has to walk a whole two blocks to work... if we only had a Ford F950 with truck nuts and a snow plow on it to bring her to work XD ... that'd rev her engine. ...I rather like a 3/4 of an hour walk to the store... it's relaxing... and I have a good backpack.

[@trainglen22]

Regrettably the only thing that I see being advertised on TV is for big ass pickup trucks. Here in Montreal, gas prices are high but trying to find a fuel efficient vehicle is not exactly easy seeing that the auto manufacturers are pushing these monsters like crack cocaine .

[@kevinmcgrath5126]

I live in an area with a lot of trade workers (plumbers, construction, painters, electricians, tile work, etc.). Most of them drive big white panel vans because they have long roofs to strap ladders onto, and interiors large enough to fit sheets of wood or drywall. They're also inexpensive to maintain and operate. They don't have fancy leather interiors which would get filthy if you come in covered in pain or saw dust. These people know that 99% of their miles are on pavement so they don't need 14" of ground clearance or big mud tread tires or massive sport-suspension shocks. They need reliable, large capacity, inexpensive vehicles. Most of them also have an old Toyota or Honda parked in their driveways, with a few having a nicer vehicle for their families (mini van or SUV). The guys driving the pick up trucks are in the Target parking lot or drive thru at McDonalds.

[@bradlyfan]

Pavement princess drivers. A lot of people completely attach their personality to some stupid car they don’t need lol

[@krunkle5136]

And God forbid they get a scratch on their tailgate.

[@victorquesada7530]

Exactly. If you have a truck that doesn't have a rack or a full bed, if you can't really fit a ladder, sheet goods, or 2x4s, then what's the point?

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Those tanks are what we in the sailing world in Ireland and the UK call Gin Palaces.

[@maumor2]

Dont forget that the guy sitting in a truck for 45 minutes waiting for his wife to buy something at Target (with the engine running) is whining about gas prices............

[@KevinFields777]

Most American pickup truck owners are so mindwashed by corporate America that they'll never realize it, even as they stare right at this comment.

[@YourLocalRaccoon]

I want to find an old 80s S10 and throw a super fuel efficient 4 cylinder and a manual in it. It'd be perfect for my specific needs (I don't need more than 2 seats, and I tow a dirt bike trailer)

[@KevinFields777]

@@YourLocalRaccoon Yes! You just have to find one that isn't rusted out or beat to heck.

[@SPECTRA890]

Can't people just buy a big car and like. It?

[@YourLocalRaccoon]

@@SPECTRA890 what benefits do you have from driving a big car?

[@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS]

@@YourLocalRaccooncompensation. Sorry, couldn’t resist.

[@lohphat]

Getting a pickup and never using the bed is like getting a panel truck for your daily commute because you might move house eventually. Most people DON'T haul anything or tow anything with their pickup on a frequent basis -- they'd save much more money getting something which matches the 95% use-case and then rent a special vehicle when they need to transport a load. This is no different than buying an eScooter or private plane -- you buy the model which fits the 95% daily mission. There's no need for me to get an eScooter which can do 50+ MPH when local traffic rarely goes over 30.

[@benjaminfortney9655]

I rented a uhaul and moved furniture/boxes between 5 different places over the course of 8 hours all over my metro area for a grand total of $110 with gas. That is way less than the additional monthly price one pays to drive these ridiculous vehicles car companies convinced every man was necessary. It seems strange to me that masculinity to some folks boils down to "I bought the things they told me to buy."

[@neolithictransitrevolution427]

You want me to rent a different Escooter everytime I want to go fast? Idk if plan as far ahead as you in regards to moving at dangerous speeds.

[@lohphat]

@@neolithictransitrevolution427 That's why I'm buying a mid-range which CAN'T do car speeds as I don't need or want to go that fast on a scooter. Keeping to reasonable city speeds where lots of pedestrians jaywalk and aren't paying attention is just asking for an accident. I'm not going to spend another $1500 on top of the model which can do 30 MPH for the handful of times I *might* want to go over 50. My pen15 and ego don't need that money for compensation.

[@garygrinkevich6971]

I once scratched my uncles plastic ford bed liner with a cinder block and he almost had an aneurism.

[@mushroomsteve]

But renting one would not display their manliness or be a status symbol.

[@jayjackson5705]

I love really really large vehicles. Ones with very wide wheelbases and huge hauling capacity with big engines and I bet you do too... They usually have a carrying capacity of 40 people but some of the articulated ones can carry 60 or more.

[@luisduarte4855]

Those are great, but I love ones with powerful steel wheels, 150 meters long, weighing 250 tons and a capacity of 1000 people.

[@williamhuang8309]

And some of them are even super tall!

[@falsemcnuggethope]

That large vehicles sound like communism

[@traviskitteh]

@@luisduarte4855 Indeed. It's even better when you link them together in long, articulated caravans, thereby increasing carrying and load capacity!

[@trashrabbit69]

Mine makes 4400 horsepower with a V12 diesel. It has a lot of legroom, an intimidating facade, and a REALLY loud horn. And it can pull 120 loaded grain cars through Wasatch!

[@sluggyyarvin]

As a homeowner who has done a bunch of big projects around the house and yard, I somehow got by without a pickup truck. A minivan can handle 4x8 plywood and drywall. You can handle wood up to 10 feet long if you run them up between the front seats and still have the gate down. I have also strapped 12 foot lumber to the roof rack. Even in my sedan, I can haul 8 foot lumber inside if I have the back seat down and no passengers. When I replaced my porch though, I just paid to have the wood delivered. Even if I had a truck, it would have taken several trips to get it all home, so it was a lot less hassle to just have it delivered. So needing a truck because you sometimes do home improvements is just an excuse for a person's desire to have a truck. I would rather have a vehicle that can haul 7 people or a load of wood.

[@josephfisher426]

I've put 12' lumber in my HHR, for a mile and a half. I don't know if it's easy to find non-trucks that handle 4x8 anymore, though...

[@kowalskidiazdegeras9190]

I'm european, and what you see here is many vans that are often used for cargo. Much better gas mileage, can also haul people, stuff at the back DOESN'T GET WET OR STOLEN and there are 4x4 versions too if necessary

[@jasonreed7522]

The primary advantage of a truck is the ability to go off road, and they generally are stock better at hauling trailers. (Also hauling anything with dangerous fumes like any gas container or even just petrol products in cans/bottles are better in an open bed than an enclosed cabin) But for total cargo capacity a van can have much better internal storage, especially for small tools and supplies. Trucks have a place, but a typical suburbanite has no reason to own one.

[@andrewgardner7986]

Even minivans have decent off-road ability now that some of them have all-wheel-drive. We never explicitly go off-roading, but there was one winter our AWD minivan was our only car (our other car was a small sedan) that could survive in the several inch deep snow because the plows couldn't keep up with the snowfall.

[@MegaNardman]

The wild thing is that so many trucks have a short bed that can't carry anything of substance anyway (other than the toolbox in the bed so they can store things that won't get stolen).

[@TheHonestPeanut]

I had a town friend (friend just because we lived in a small town) who bought a lincoln pick up, leather interior, Bluetooth, heated/cooled seats. I said "that's the biggest luxury car I've ever seen". He literally never spoke to me again. Blatantly ignored me the few times I greeted him after that. Just a tender, tender boi.

[@VoxelLoop]

As a European, seeing the 'chads' talk about how 'alpha' they are because they own a pickup truck is absolutely hillarious. For us, it's a vehicle that no one really owns outside of farmers, who use and abuse them. It's like saying "Yeah, my vehicle handles poorly, accelerates poorly, stops poorly, gets horrible gas mileage, has poor roll-over safety, has poor crash ratings... That makes me an ALPHA MALE." I'm not sure what the 'chad'/'alpha' car would be here in the UK, maybe it's a Range Rover Sport, an offroad vehicle that will never ever see a spec of dirt in its life but instead be doing 110mph down the motorway. :)

[@HamidKarzai]

european alpha chads are driving BMWs of course

[@blitzn00dle50]

it boggles my mind how the people who believe in the male hierarchy pseudoscience think that the ALPHA MALE vehicle of choice is a fucking lazy boy surrounded by empty seats and dead space where you accelerate by increasing pressure on a pedal as opposed to a tiny skeleton of a vehicle without a motor where you generate your own power with your legs and are completely exposed to the elements

[@Ry_TSG]

Americans just feel a gripping urge to drive an 6000 pound grandma-squasher everywhere at all times.

[@paveladamek3502]

Have you seen the RR Sport review by Richard Hammond? He clearly established that it is a car for footballers and wifes of footballers. :)))

[@alfrredd]

yes! big expensive SUV's are definitely the european equivalent. Range Rover, Cayenne, Q8, X6, etc.

[@marchomotion]

I smiled ear to ear for the whole run-time. This is Seth Meyers "corrections" levels of sarcastic contempt for community-building effect. Cheers!

[@jaundice27]

“sarcastic contempt for others” yeah, this is the main brand of this channel

[@EricaGamet]

Same... and hello, fellow Jackal!

[@pablouribe1522]

"sarcastic contempt for community" that should be in the channel description. For real, i was laughing all along.

[@steven.l.patterson]

Agreed, loved it!

[@TFWhitemusic]

Greetings Jackal, now I'm interested in what else the 'corrections' crowd overlaps with

[@gjits5307]

I think the most odious thing about pickup guys is that they seem to have supplanted the much cooler and chiller muscle car guys (garage rats). I guess it's easier to buy something masculine than to be something masculine.

[@1brocktune]

algorithm move this comment to the top!!!

[@iloveanimemidriff]

This so much. Muscle cars are just as huge as pick ups, but they require actual effort to own and maintain, and that effort kinda makes you feel much more humble about your vehicle. Owning a truck, to the contrary, only requires a good enough credit score. With no effort required to own a truck, they feel the need to constantly have to validate their choice.

[@m2useinu]

Thank you, that's it

[@victorquesada7530]

Yeah, that's pretty thoughtful. If you are pushing a piece of tech to its limit, it breaks. And when it breaks, you either get used to shelling out the cash or you start figuring it out for yourself. It's not cultivation, like a garden, but maintenance and high performance use brings a level of awareness and respect to the owner of such a vehicle. Towing a boat in traffic or over challenging terrain will force you to pay attention, and if you do it often, it's part of the chore of driving, the task, rather than some machismo identity. If you love off road driving, and actually have to use your recovery tools on a regular basis, then you truly grasp the center of gravity, the feeling of traction on the edge of control, and respect that your tires on a wet road need to have different treads to get back to basic safety at highway speeds. When you truly care and engage, you notice the good and bad.

[@ntdscherer]

@@iloveanimemidriff What takes more effort about maintaining a muscle car compared to a truck? As for size, the Challenger (heaviest muscle car) weighs 3,841-4,481 pounds, and the F-150 (lightest full size pickup) weighs 4,069-5,697 pounds.

[@Kingmag3]

I'm watching this video in my Ford Maverick with my wife's boyfriend. Keep up the good work ❤

[@DinoCon]

City Nerd breaking character by laughing.

[@MiniFi_]

@user-hg4li3zx1x The laugh was so great. Clearly he was impressed with the 12 year old caliber of those comments.

[@FFcossag]

It's funny, here in Finland, everyone just drives a Japanese combi (that's a station wagon but done right) with a roof rack, a tow hitch and a trailer. It's way easier to haul things that way, and you can just unhook the trailer if you're too lazy to offload. It's just a better way of doing things.

[@iloveanimemidriff]

In Mexico we use instead compact pickups that deliver maximum value for minimum cost and won't make the owner worry all the time about minor damage, medium pick-ups like the Toyota Hilux or the Mitsubishi L200 that are everything good about the large ones (ruggedness and cargo capacity) with none of the bad (single digit km/L), or light diesel trucks such as the Isuzu Elf that are actually made to haul stuff. Up until 2008 or so we used the Nissan pickup a lot, but it was discontinued and replaced with a piece of shit that's not even half as good.

[@jrochest4642]

When I google Japanese Kombi I get what's essentially a VW Van?

[@siyeci]

@@jrochest4642 kinda but much better

[@FFcossag]

@@jrochest4642 Things like Mazda 6 station wagons, or the ever nordic Volvo 850.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Here in Ireland tradespeople mostly use vans mostly Ford, VW,Peugeot,Nissan or sometimes a Defender either pickup or van but mostly van.

[@CH-ck1by]

My observation from time spent in the U.S. is that in most cases, the biggest thing that ever gets transported in a pickup is the driver's butt.

[@apparentlynot1stLeonchubbs]

🥇

[@mikemikeyee]

Idno man, their ego is a close second though

[@JoseMoreno-yv9ol]

LOL 😂😂😂

[@nunyabidness3075]

I’ve heard this a lot over the years. On car sites the truck haters are a bit less bigoted and ignorant, but it’s still the internet. Most people have zero interest in actually understanding why things are the way they are. Still, if you can do math, and think your way out of a paper bag, you can quickly figure out that even a construction guy who only uses a truck for work will only be loaded a max of about 25% of his trips. Of course, insurance and depreciation make it more costly to not use your work truck as your only car, so the net result is that a serious work truck is loaded in maybe 5% of trips. Furthermore, the usual logic is that people who need a truck once every month or two should rent one for those jobs. It’s not cost effective to that though in most urban areas because along with the logical decision to add density comes a bunch of corrupt jerks who then try to get a free lunch by raising taxes on non voters. Also, a bunch of ambulance chasing lawyers. The result is that the actual cost to go get a rental truck overcomes any possible savings of owning a much smaller vehicle. Part of the issue is that body on frame trucks depreciate more slowly than cheap compacts and that fuel taxes are kept artificially low by both political parties.

[@biercenator]

@@nunyabidness3075 On that first point, as a one-time ranch kid, I always marvel at how these rugged working-man rigs always seem to be freshly washed and waxed, with no scratches or dents on them. But then maybe modern crew-cab pickups are designed to only show the marks of a working vehicle 25% of the time.

[@mastahfrederique1147]

When people say, "Not everyone lives in the city," in response to criticizing massive trucks, I want to reply with, "Great, then stay out of our cities and we won't have a problem."

[@nicholasr156]

They arent even good in rural areas

[@mastahfrederique1147]

@@nicholasr156 Eh, depends on how rural. My hometown had about 5k population and could definitely have benefited from being walkable and having maybe a little street car. The other towns in my county with -1,000 population? The people living there are doing so specifically to NOT live close to people. I say let them be.

[@mrosskne]

make me :)

[@douchopotamus3755]

Yeah, it's only 80% of the country that lives in cities

[@KyrieFortune]

​@@douchopotamus3755and the 20% who doesn't live in a city knows huge pick-up trucks are stupid and use much more versatile vehicles, because they actually need versatile vehiclez

[@SquozeLemons]

I live in Wyoming, and have for most of my life, and holy shit the Truckbros are so goddamn exhausting. And, to be clear, that's at least half of my fellow Wyomingites, plus the other like 45% who aren't super worked up over owning a big truck but don't see anything wrong with Truck culture. I love Wyoming, but holy shit it's wild being surrounded by Truckbros who think that sharing the road with anyone who's driving anything smaller than a Dodge Charger is going to shrink their reproductive organs, and sharing the road with a cyclist will make their junk fall off and crawl away.

[@sagehiker]

Wyoming note: I love my former in-laws who thought I was okay while piloting my company F-250 everywhere. Gawd help all when I showed up in my new commuter car, a 99 Chevy Prism (Corolla) when the company started restricting personal use. I was told I should have quit or I was certain to die.

[@Lurch685]

It’s like they never grew past age 6 and the “ahyuck, I like twucks” phase.

[@glennleslie6127]

You could have expressed everything without the "GD" , just sayin' honey

[@juliac6256]

@@glennleslie6127 who cares

[@dbclass4075]

@@sagehiker Amusingly, the truck's higher centre of gravity increases rollover risk, which is the deadliest type of crash.

[@garygrinkevich6971]

The lifted ram 2500 hanging 4 feet out of the handicap space is *chefs kiss*, quintessential truck owner energy.

[@CannedFishFiles]

My wife's boyfriend loves your channel, keep it up!

[@benjaminallisonii724]

Wait a minute...

[@cardenasr.2898]

My wife's boyfriend (who drives a truck) recommended this channel too! What are the odds

[@CortezEspartaco2]

Can confirm. Loved every video this guy's wife has shown me so far.

[@brainwashingdetergent4322]

Small place this KZbin!

[@ramencurry6672]

Double cream pie

[@DavidRichardson153]

I'm from Texas - born and raised there - and there was always a pickup in my family: my father's little brown 1981 Nissan. I learned how to drive a stick in that truck. That Nissan lasted 30 years, drove across the entire _continent,_ and did all of the hauling in the family before it finally gave out for good. Since then, the family pickup has been... a 2014 Toyota Sienna. It is also the family off-roader - and a rather damn good one despite having no aftermarket mods. I will never forget that day some @$$hole in a lifted F-150 tried to mock me for "being a pansy who drives a minivan." I told him look behind me, because in the Sienna's cabin was two full pallets of cinderblocks, and attached to a hitch was a trailer carrying a zero-turn mower. I then shouted at him, "This is what I, a "pansy," am hauling around with a _minivan!_ What are you hauling!? Just your f^^^ing re^^^^ed @$$!? You might want to go back and finish high school! At least that way, you can pick up enough Spanish to be able to get a gig standing in front of the Home Depot!" Hey, I'm Texan. We are fluent in the following languages: English, Bullshittish, Craponese, and then of course, your choice between Spanish and French. That was just some basic Craponese there.

[@redramage]

One time I picked up a 400 lb rotary phase converter (turns single phase power to three phase power) in the back of my toyota matrix. The forklift guy who loaded it in didn't say anything but he sure had an amused look on his face! I called it my "quarter ton farm truck" and thrashed the absolute piss out of it hauling things that a unibody hatchback has no business carrying. It's a 2007 and still going strong. Toyota makes a damn fine car.

[@LongJohnSilver707]

I own/drive a large pickup truck but I absolutely agree with your video about pickups. There are way too many people driving pickups in the USA when they don't need them. I own a large truck because I actually USE it. I work in construction, maintenance, and skilled tradework. I frequently haul large tools, building materials, and heavy objects, unlike the majority of pickup owners who typically seem to be middle aged men who own one to pretend their a "manly" man while they pickup groceries or drop their kids off at soccer practice. It seems to be a weird trendy lifestyle thing now, like how soccer moms seem to be constantly buying Jeep Wranglers (that will never touch anything but asphalt), because they "have an adventurous spirit". I'm definitely not interested in telling people what they can and cannot buy, but the luxury pickup fad is just getting a bit ridiculous. It actually makes it more difficult on people like me who actually use a truck for work in order to be a productive member of society because all these upper-middle class people buying luxurious pickups are driving the cost of pickups through the roof.

[@zephyros256]

The branding of trucks as luxury vehicles also has the unfortunate side effect of raising the height of the truck bed. Since loading some heavy stuff into a bed 3ft from the ground is less strenuous than when you try and do it 5-6 ft from the ground (heights are purely illustrative). The change from the low and deep beds towards these high beds that can't hold more than a decent station wagon or minivan is counter to what I would expect tradespeople to want.

[@gyorkshire257]

The weird thing about US style pickup trucks is how impractical they are even for people like yourself who needs a vehicle that can shift a lot of stuff. Here in the UK we use vans for the same job, which have much lower beds, making them miles easier to load and unload. They are also covered to a height of about 6 foot from the bed, so you can carry more, and do so in all weathers. Have a look for a ford transit on google, most of the people who use pickups in the US for work would be fine with that.

[@connor4961]

Nothing more fun than driving a pickup. I think that’s what most folks forget, most people buy trucks because they just like them, they’re fun to play around with.

[@unconventionalideas5683]

@@zephyros256The problem is that people who use the trucks off road need a higher bed or else the truck might get stuck, and automakers find developing two different ride heights to be too expensive in many cases.

[@Kloppin4H0rses]

​@@unconventionalideas5683 My off-road toy is a beat down GMC from 1986. It is half the size and height of these Ford F150 pavement princesses and can navigate off-road just fine. So no. Your truck bed doesn't need to be 5 and a half feet in the air to navigate a trail.

[@sagehiker]

No, I live in Wyoming that is heralded as a rural yet 70% of us live in incorporated areas. I had career in O &G. Pickups after ‘99 ceased to be machines with human ergonomics and work in mind. Harder to service. Washing windshields was like Pygmy’s on an elephant. Most of the working ranches in my area switched to UTV and keep the pickups simply for hauling trailers. Keep up the work. This video has made me a new subscriber.

[@ruslbicycle6006]

LOL thanks for the windshield bit. I never thought of it but now I can't not think of it.

[@CD-zd6zr]

Aren't things like subaru hatchbacks the vehicle of choice out there?

[@jordanjohnson9866]

Nah. Not 70%. Not “70%.” /

[@sagehiker]

@@CD-zd6zr Last figures I saw was 50% pickup, then came SUVs of which Subies in there but they have lost share to Honda and Toyos. Highest vehicle payment average in US because of the truck stats.

[@namebrandmason]

That makes sense. I live in the midwest and most of the pickups with lift kits are also suspiciously shiny (my favorite ones have low-profile tires, too). I wouldn't want to have to load/unload construction material from a truck bed that's above shoulder height.

[@garcjr]

I have a large pickup truck (I only use it when I need to haul things). But I don't get how these people get offended when someone points out how most people don't use their trucks for their intended purpose. I guarantee these are the same people who make actual offensive comments and tell us not to feel offended.

[@cjaquilino]

The thing is I do see memes of people making fun of people who have luxury trucks. You’d think these people would get onboard with making fun of the poseurs. But I think they don’t have the range to notice the nuance and they just see any making light of trucks as if it’s an attack on true alpha men or whatever.

[@GordonSlamsay]

I own a truck that I use for truck things and whenever I say it's impractical for me (which it is sometimes) some of my truck buddies get legitimately offended. I've also been called "commie" and "libtard" by these people for saying I like trains and cozy main streets. I dunno.

[@macgobhann8712]

@@GordonSlamsay Owning a truck has become a part of their personalities. When you make any suggestions that might be opposed to trucks, they consequently get offended as if you are attacking them themselves. Just understand that you aren't the problem, your insecure friends are.

[@justinwarthen]

@@cjaquilino put it perfectly 😂

[@tonywalters7298]

@@GordonSlamsay it is about supposed gender norms (i.e. being a man is all about being imposing and tough--which giant pickup trucks feed into--and those who reject such gender norms are called "betas" and 'soy boys")

[@emmahilburn1732]

I used to work a farm job with my tiny Hyundai accent as transportation. That thing got stuck in mud and got itself out, got used as a vegetable taxi, took quite a few beatings, and was covered in dust on a good day. It would come home covered in mud while my neighbor's F150 would come home spotless, nearly every day, without fail. I think of this sometimes when I see one of these giant pickups in an office park. And laugh. Still have that little car six years later and I'm amazed at the stuff that she (yes, it's a she) withstood.

[@kave9482]

Nothing wrong with that. I used to do scrap metal runs with my ford focus a few years back. Pretty crappy car, but it got the job done.

[@stephenchurch1784]

That's not a fair comparison. Hyundai are just magically good at doing stuff they shouldn't be able to. The look on people's faces when I cruise past them in my powder blue sonata on four-wheeling trails is priceless 😂

[@davidburrow5895]

I live in the rural Midwest, and while I exclusively drive a car, the majority of vehicles on the road here are pick-ups. There are a few people who actually haul stuff in them, but most (even a lot of people who took a tax deduction for theoretically getting a "farm" vehicle) just drive them because they think they look cool.

[@GalladofBales]

I want to say a big thank you to the truck bros for driving engagement to anti-truck content. Keep it up! You’re helping us urbanists reach more people who support our cause

[@PalmelaHanderson]

A lot of Americans/Canadians grow up in suburbs where walking/biking/transit is physically not an option, and it's been that way since the 50's/60's. So when a kid turns 16 and gets their driver's license, it makes sense that it gives them a sense of freedom because they can actually like... do things and go places without their parents. It's kind of a foreign concept to kids who grew up in cities. By extension, it also makes sense how that sense of freedom becomes an integral part of their identity, and any infringement on it feels like an attack. Pick up trucks are the ultimate extension of that extension. "you can take my pick up truck from my cold, dead hands." Facts don't matter in an emotional argument. Even if on some level they know they're wrong, they feel right.

[@macgobhann8712]

Precisely. And that's the way it's designed. The auto industry wants you to associate cars with freedom, that's why they coerce city planners into shoving people into distant suburbs of which they can only be freed from by buying a car. As a kid who grew up in the burbs, nothing felt better than finally having the freedom to get out of the suburbs, to go anywhere I wanted and to get out of our boring neighborhood. If I lived anywhere else though, like in a denser city with good transit, I wouldnt have to worry about any of that. I would already have the freedom to go where I wanted. I would already have the freedom to go hang out with friends, go to any restaurant, go to the store, catch a ball game etc. Because not only would I have transit, but everything would just be much closer to me. So it's understandable that people take offense to urbanists trash talking cars. They've never actually lived or even thought of a place like a dense city with good transit. The burbs and car dependency is all they've ever known. So talking about reducing car infrastructure and investing in public transit can sound like taking away their whole livelihood. Also, many other things influence it too obviously, like poverty being associated with public transit and blatant racism.

[@francesconicoletti2547]

I grew up in a suburb. It felt like a dead end trap. No truck is going to fix that for me.

[@paveladamek3502]

Correct me if I wrong but it feels like 99% of the "grew up in suburbs" people could do just fine with Mini Coopers. Let alone 16yo with fresh licenses.

[@jasonreed7522]

I think the problem with American suburbs is they try to be halfway between a dense city and a sensible small rural town, and in doing so fail misserably at being either. Rural is car dependent because it has to be, but it also has walkable towns with a cultured and historic Mainstreet that is pleasant to exist on. Rural provides the raw resources that the nation depends upon. Cities are dense and could ban cars, the have tons of amenities and culture. They are hubs of the economy and generally process raw goods back into better forms. Suburbs are monotonous expanses of cookie cutter houses without sidewalks or anything resembling a core where people enjoy just existing or gathering for festivals. Suburbs are a net tax revenue sink and are defined as dependent on a host city. The only thing suburbs bring to the table is cars. (Which is a shame because the old pre ww2 street car suburb was actually a valid and sustainable form of community)

[@ruslbicycle6006]

Actually having a car was a sign of freedom for teens in cities also. And continues to be. Our cities are still mostly built around cars. That this has changed at all in the recent decades it due to social organising, and campaigns to change values. There are also practical reasons as car traffic continues to block itself. But the fact is that these values can be changed in the suburbs as they have, somewhat in the cities: based on being in touch with the reality of our immediate environment and social organising.

[@daviddavid5880]

I love my truck. It's so handy. It rocks for chores around the city. Easy to load, Easy to park, cheap tires, cheap insurance. You just can't beat a 90s compact truck.

[@marmedalmond9958]

The closet modern equivalent you have is a toyota hilux or a land cruiser 70 series.

[@AaronSmith-sx4ez]

Those actually don't seem like typical CityNerd comments... I actually think this was the case of the KZbin AI going a little amuck. YT's referral system is pretty simplistic...it will suggest videos that are popular and "similar" to previous videos that you mostly watched to the end. In this case YTAI saw a "truck video" so gave you a bunch of "truck referrals" not realizing it was a completely different demographic. For what it's worth a lot of YT'ers have figured this out and are gaming the AI for selfish ends. They will create "reacts" to popular videos to convince the AI and get free referrals/ads. CityNerd could do this...create a "reacts" video to say a popular topic from City Beautiful or Not Just Bikes and you would get a ton of free referrals.

[@sharpless]

Well, isn't this a "reacts" video, even maybe a bit different format than those you think of?

[@Blustride]

@missing sig There are far stranger places on KZbin than people talking about a mainstream hobby

[@DrBreakalot]

@@sharpless Reacting to your own video comments doesn't open a new audience

[@jbullforg]

There's also the option to react to some city builder game content, such as biffa with city skylines

[@MrFluteboy1980]

@@jbullforg I don't think he drinks enough tea for this...

[@TheBitterSpinach]

Man, I haven't laughed so much during an urban planning video.

[@andrewlindstrom9599]

Glad to add the the lovely environment of the CityNerd comment section. Side note - nothing is more obnoxious to me as a minimalist/asshole outdoors guy who loves bike camping than trucks towing huge campers/recreational vehicles around. The way that most recreational sites are set up to cater to the motorhome crowd makes them generally worse for regular tent campers. Nothing worse than being woken up by some guys generator running so they can run a dishwasher in the campground. I once spent a lot of time looking into transit options to National Parks, and it's even more bleak than you can imagine. I would love your perspective on it, since outdoors/National Parks are such a big part of American culture. Maybe a top 10 best/worst US National Parks/Monuments for non-car access

[@patrickblaney8220]

Oh man, I feel your pain on the generator noise complaint. In Minnesota, a number of parks have campground sections restricted for cart-in access. Everyone is in tents, and the sites don't require motorhome-spacing yet they have much more privacy. The cart-in style makes for very accessible recreation. I want to see this style of campground gain popularity. And wow! I have never imagined the national parks could be accessible by transit. That would be incredible! Personally, I've half-planned a bikepacking trip through Glacier via the Empire Builder rail. I think my parent's (and grandparent's) history of roadtripping through the NPs left an impression that this was the only way.

[@thom7463]

+1 on that suggestion. Would love to see a video on the accessibility of national parks for other modes of transportation then a private vehicle

[@RobertPrestley]

I love this suggestion too! It seems to me that many of the most popular National Parks would be uniquely set-up for transit to work well, given the limited number of entrances, trailheads, and road networks within parks. And this would solve a lot of the issues with traffic congestion and overcrowded trailheads that parks like Yosemite, Yellowstone, and Rocky Mountain are currently running into.

[@UsefulFarmer349]

I often stay at dispersed campsites outside of developed recreation sites just so I don’t have to hear others. Only problem is that requires I have a car that can go off road, so I have an old cheap Tacoma for weekend off-road adventures and getting to trailheads (I would estimate I camp around 25-30 weekends a year) During the week I pretty much bike everywhere or sometimes drive my little old Subaru, not the best public transportation here in Spokane, WA.

[@macgobhann8712]

I've never understood campervans. I thought the whole idea of camping was to be closer to nature, but by bringing your camper, you're just bringing your home closer to nature.

[@andrewforsmark6103]

So I'm a tile Contractor, have driven my F150 for 17 years, I'm moving over to a Ford Maverick hybrid which gets 40 MPG. I only really need the space/capacity of my F150 when I start a huge job. My new plan is to take more trips with my smaller truck. Ford Maverick sales up 100% since last year. Reasonable people get it. And the sales numbers prove it. America is gonna get smaller weather it wants to or not!

[@TylerWardhaha]

Its also super affordable.I realize it's a bold statement but I think if might even be attracting Tacoma and other midsize truck shoppers due to high cost and middling fuel economy.

[@JimmyMon666]

Some of it is the economy is getting worse now. I'm a Tacoma guy, but there's big backlash about the new Tacomas getting so expensive. They went too far. I miss when you could buy affordable trucks. I'll be holding on to my 2012 for quite a while it seems until Toyota gets their act together, if ever. I've never been a Ford guy, but if something ever happened to my Tacoma, I might consider it.

[@Ad-im1ne]

I also love how most pickup trucks have the most tinted windows on the road. Not only do they need to put on a front, they can’t even stand to have people look at them in the eyes 🤣

[@JMcMillen]

Window tinting helps block the suns UV rays. The windshield has some UV protection built it, but none of the other windows do.

[@jacob5169]

I once saw the biggest asshole truck on my way to work: it had tinted windows and tinted BREAK LIGHTS! It was incredibly hard to see them stopping and I felt like I nearly rear ended them a few times because I nearly missed it!

[@DanRichter]

I had a sedan when I was broke. Never tinted it because… I was broke. Got a truck when I started doing well. I tinted the truck because why not, couch change at this point to avoid the fish bowl effect. That might have something to do with it.

[@michaelwilson9037]

I wish my wife's boyfriend had a pickup truck. That would solve a lot of my problems. Unfortunately he doesn't even have a license.

[@demori2052]

My Wife's boyfriend doesn't have a license either but he let's me play his Xbox 360 sometimes, he is pretty cool. Wanna join my Halo 3 Clan?

[@russm4677]

It's funny when I visited my family in Argentina the ranching meat capital of the world... which makes Texas look vegetarian btw.... everyone drives regular cars to the "Campo" or farm. My family are ranchers; owning 10s of thousands of acres across La Pampa. NOBODY.... not one rancher/farmer drives a pickup on the roads... they stay on the farm. For the most part this was how the United States was too until a few decades ago. I live in a Suburban Culdesac hellhole in North Louisiana now and it's freaking hilarious how many pristine F150 or even 350/450s are parked on postage stamp HOA driveways... like they genuinely need a gargantuan truck to pick up Tommy from school. Smh

[@WoodenViking]

I can imagine one of those pickup bros going to find this comment and reply “see that’s why Argentina’s economy is crumbling because there isn’t enough pickups on their pavement to be productive” lol

[@DanDanDoe]

Yeah, it's always so strange to see many Americans say they "need" a huge pickup truck for their job, yet somehow in most of Europe farmers, contractors, carpenters etc. seem to manage fine without. Muddy construction site or farmland? That's why you have tractors, or maybe vehicles actually made to go off road. Contractors generally have vans, and they often attach things to the roof if they don't fit in the back. People tow all kinds of equipment and trailers behind all kinds of cars.

[@madelaki]

​@@DanDanDoe A tiny Citroen will perform better on mud than a full size Ford pickup truck due to the much lower weight.

[@aliadam575]

🚚 Big truck= Overcompensation = Small package 📦.....

[@jimmybuckets5863]

As someone who taught drivers ed in a very pickup-friendly (and relatively wealthy) exurb, I was amazed and eventually disgusted at the amount of kids who were going to be getting a massive vehicle as soon as they turn 16! Even the best of them had some struggles managing a compact car in moderate traffic! (And sure you could say it’s cause I taught em but point is, any driver without experience is GOING to make mistakes or do odd things on the road at times, giving them a massive and powerful vehicle only increases the likelihood of an incident as well as the severity of said incident)

[@masterpye69]

In Europe it would just be insanely expensive for the insurance, and some powerful cars are even forbidden for young drivers. For example, I started driving with a 97 Peugeot 406, 2.0L, and I had to pay 90€/month of insurance the first year... After several years it would be 20 to 30€ less.

[@McGoogger]

If I had a half ton monster at 16 there would probably be people in graves rn

[@jeffmcdonald101]

In Australia, until you have a full license (18yo), you can't drive a turbo or supercharged vehicle. Nor can you ride a motorcycle above 250cc. If the truck virus gets out of control here, I'm sure we'll deploy appropriate measures. Not sure why ; )

[@loganj7238]

I had the pleasure of visiting Buenos Aires this year and passing through the Boca neighbourhood on game day. It was stunning how the stadium emerged from nowhere in the middle of the neighbourhood. It was also fun eating choripan at any of the hundreds of food carts set up in the vicinity and watching the parades of fans make their way to the stadium on foot. It was impressive to watch.

[@CityNerd]

Choripan (drool emoji)

[@michaelstratton5223]

But wouldn't you rather go to McDonalds and then eat your food sitting in your parked car in a Walmart parking lot with plenty of spaces? How COnVeNIent! Cooooonveeeeniennce Logan, we're here to make things conveeeeenient [zombies start driving their cars towards you]

[@loganj7238]

@@michaelstratton5223 Haha, I'm not proud of it but I did get drive through and eat parked in a parking lot this. The whole time I was wondering what City Nerd would think of me if he could see me.

[@Persimontree]

Finaly my degree in sociolinguistics pays of: Soy contains phytoestrogen which is the plant version of estrogen, that has no effect on humans. However because phytoestrogen sounds similar to estrogen, a large part of the online right came to believe, that the consumption of soy products leads to the feminization of men. From this arose a whole bunch of creatively coined new words like "soyboy"; "soyface"; "soy" as an adjective; etc.

[@john-ic9vj]

And who eats soy more than anyone? Cows... so they are getting their soy more than a vegan

[@dqalombardi]

'pays of' -- i tHoUgHt lInGuIsTs dIdNt mAkE TyPoS

[@GODOFHELLFIRE3]

TRUE, there's this dude called Hbomberguy who did a whole video covering the 'soyboy' thing and that's where I learnt it from

[@randy2993]

You forgot the racism. Stereotypically, East Asians eat a lot of soy and are effeminate. Therefore soy must make you effeminate!

[@murdelabop]

I have to disagree with you that phytoestrogen compounds have no effects on humans. From my own, strictly anecdotal experience, consuming more than just a tiny amount of soy causes me (ahem) "male problems".

[@nickmurdaugh9856]

I drive a truck. But I do not understand at all how tied up with their identities people make driving a truck. It's insane. I drive it because I like it, and I've gotten enough use out of it that it made sense to me just to have one full time. But that fact doesn't negate your arguments about the problems of large vehicles in America. You're right on all points. But it's a long, uphill climb to fix the issue. You're fighting poor city planning and the unethical advertising complex. And the "American Dream" bullshit. That's a losing fight.

[@CaymanLevonian]

The thing you don't understand about lighting my cash on fire in the middle of the street is that there simply are not sidewalks in the rural part of the country that I could use to light my money on fire

[@christianmoore7109]

They are simply not large enough to put all the money. it might get on the grass and the road so really it has to be in the middle of the street. Anything else is un-American

[@hockeymaskbob2942]

"the goal of global communism is to set money on fire in the middle of the dedicated bike path" -Karl Marx probably

[@RekkidTalk]

I work at a university and I know people that never haul anything bigger than textbooks that have full-size extended cab pickups.

[@simondunham9998]

University campuses are really a bizarre microcosm of car/truck culture. Where I attend school (a public university) I'd say 10% of my classmates drive Teslas, and another 40% drive luxury cars or full size pickups. I feel like this entire car culture thing is a symptom of socioeconomic (and racial) disparities, where people feel the need to define themselves as part of a group by owning a certain type of vehicle. It's infuriating to see college kids driving to class for a PGA golf management degree (yes, my school has that) in an $80,000 Mercedes SUV or Duramax while many of my friends from high school simply could not afford to pursue higher education and drive an old Ford Focus to their retail job. The narrative is that these people are lazy and deserve their lot in life with no regards for what anyone has been through. Car culture is both a symptom and an influence on class conflict in the US....

[@chrisjohnson7929]

Extended cab or crew cab? I thought extended cabs were an endangered species these days. Most of the posers are going for the crew cab trucks with the impractical small bed.

[@jordanabendroth6458]

@@simondunham9998 my college also has a PGA golf management degree, (one of the 4 out in the Western US) and I was a business major for about a year and everyone in the PGA program kind of seemed stuck up and like jerks so I changed my major because I hated what I was doing at the time.

[@derickcastillo9083]

I drive a ford F250. As ranchers, my family and I use it to hall hay, horses, cattle and materials to fix fences. We need the four wheel drive to escape the mud, snow and ice when the weather gets interesting. I am also a teacher and I ride my bike to work as often as I can, about 4 - 5 days a week to work. It kills me to have to drive a truck around town that gets only 14 miles to the gallon. I want nothing more than to see the streets and roads safe for everyone.

[@brandan7761]

Better than hauling groceries.

[@jeffmcdonald101]

This seems to be the common point of view from people who actually need them.

[@derickcastillo9083]

@@jeffmcdonald101 Thank you!

[@simonrudduck8726]

Isn’t it easier to use a small truck with a longer tray base? You know, easier to jump up on?

[@derickcastillo9083]

@@simonrudduck8726 I don't like trucks that are too high. When you are loading hay, you have to pick up the bales higher and it is more work. A small truck with long bed is a bit of a contradiction. The bed on my truck is 2 meters, my sister's truck has a bed that is 2 .5 meters.

[@andydecu]

As a Millenial mechanic, when i see a done up truck roll in the shop, i plan my next vacation. You want to drive that heavy thing? You will pay heavy and i dont feel bad one bit about taking your money, even if i watch you cry as you swipe your two or three credit cards at their limit! God, I LOVE America! Thats why i moved here! Because you dont know how to fix it.

[@silverxstar01]

"Don't mess with pickup trucks, that's like speaking blasphemy" sounds like a Hank Hill quote.

[@SD-cw3gm]

He always drove a sensible midsize pickup, so he’d get a pass for saying this.

[@Kevin-nh7jd]

​@@SD-cw3gm There definitely would've been a King of the Hill episode with Hank tearing in to impractical trucks. He gave in to modern comfort but he definitely won't compromise on utility for the sake of appearances.

[@JimmyMon666]

@@Kevin-nh7jd I think I'm Hank Hill now. I drive a mid size pickup. I can't fathom the need for the behemoths I see in my city. Most so shiny they've never been offroad (mine has the pinstripes to prove I've been off road). Although I admit at this point I simply can't afford those behemoth's even if I wanted one. I actually want to retire early, which means keeping my Tacoma going as long as possible. Even new Tacoma's I can't afford at this point, not that I want one since Tacomas are too big now with too many useless features.

[@chrispontani6059]

This was fantastic. As a suburban resident practically my entire life, I DON’T understand how people live in the burbs with a pickup. So you go to the supermarket and put your stuff in the back for it to roll around? And what happens when it rains? Most pickup owners never use their pickups for utilitarian tasks. And how do I live without one? Quite easily. If I REALLY needed one, I could rent it from Home Depot for an hour.

[@slapdashzeal6095]

Tonneau cover and a simple organizer in the back.

[@chaotickreg7024]

@@slapdashzeal6095 Yes, let me pay extra to have extra hardware that only meets me needs once every year at best. Learn to rent.

[@slapdashzeal6095]

@@chaotickreg7024 not my fault you’re broke

[@chaotickreg7024]

@@slapdashzeal6095 I mean... Don't make me get into economic theory. But why do you think you can consume in comically large quantities and think you're -+0 with the rest of the earth? You're consuming everyone's resources and you should be a little aware of that. Or else lose your stuff idc what karma does to inconsiderate people.

[@darklazerx7913]

Or rent a trailer or van, things made for practical use. They're bigger and lower to the ground.

[@micahhesketh3448]

I love the "you should thank the hard working truck people for your advacado toast!" mentally. Like, yes Todd in suburbia who drives his f150 downtown every day is really doing a lot for my artisan bread. I think our obsession with trucks probably hurts farmers and people who actually use them for work sine it needlessly increases demand for them (not to mention the increased cost to make them bigger and more imposing).

[@honkhonk8009]

Economy of scale prolly means it helps farmers, since they have a larger inventory of used pickups, and a R&D cost that gets spread out between all those pickup models.

[@wonjez3982]

Also if urban sprawl and excessive transport wasn't a thing, people could actually grow local food! Self-fulfilling prophecy right there. Typical error to think somebody can't have a fair point because they are doing something else wrong. If only people could accept that nobody is perfect and would listen to each other...

[@micahhesketh3448]

Pickup trucks are a tool for farmers / builders / etc. I don't think this argument would fly for any other piece of machinery. Would it really reduce the cost of tractors if everyone drove them? The problem with modern trucks is they are made to be big and heavy which drives up their cost needlessly and reduces their usefulness. This puts many people who actually need them in the ridiculous situation where they need to buy a less effective tool used just to be able to afford it.

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

It actually hurts farmers and tradespeople in a *different* way. A lot of modern pick up tricks are grossly impractical for physical trade work. The beds have gotten smaller and smaller, the height off the ground has gotten higher and higher and ability to load them easily worse and worse. They're basically strictly luxury vehicles with the outer facade of a pickup.

[@nae0___]

those old pickup trucks have such amazing vintage vibes too, its a shame we're moving to uglier, bigger and less useful trucks

[@RobertPrestley]

I really appreciate this look at the comments, first just to make light of some of the absolutely ridiculous comments but also to shed light on the bizarre way pickup trucks have come to stand in for the particular strain of American toxic masculinity that pervades discourse on just about every topic. For me personally, I have no problem with pickups being used for their stated purpose - if you live in a rural area and use it to tow/haul stuff, great! But they have no place in cities, where the externalities associated with their use far exceeds any marginal value they provide.

[@AlexCab_49]

I agree, most people who buy pick up trucks do it to feel bigger. For men it's toxic masculinity and for women is to feel powerful as the men who drive pick up trucks.

[@BugOnAChip]

“Toxic masculinity” soy boy detected

[@jasonreed7522]

Normal cars don't even belong in cities. Personally as someone from a rural family that owns pickups with valid use cases, they are literally getting too big to even be useful. Part of it is that its not reasonable to get a truck and a car for the same person so get a truck thats small enough to be am acceptable daily driver, and the rest of the family gets normal cars. I'm currently living in a city and have a jeep Cherokee with all the sensors and have to drive for work (engineer, site visits to random industrial, comercial, and educational facilities). I thought my car was about as small as can be comfortable to sit in for extended periods, and parking garages still stuck, i have no idea who would want to drive a full sized pickup in a city as a daily driver, it just sounds like enough stress to kill you. I just wish we could all recognize that every vehicle has a usecase and getting kne that doesn't fit your needs isn't a "status symbol" but just a mark of idiocy/being a poser loser. (The same applies to the dude driving a prius off-road and being shocked™ that it got stuck, or a motorcycle in the winter without a helmet)

[@davegonzalez2140]

I live in a major city, and folks from the suburbs with massive trucks and SUVs come in constantly. Taking these massive vehicles on streets too small for them and they lack the awareness for? Add in the cycle commuters and pedestrians? It's a nightmare.

[@somnambulatingsavant1550]

Right? They stand for toxic masculinity but they sell 3 million of them a year. It's the most popular vehicle sold in America. lol My guess is that most of the whiners are just people that can't afford an F-150 Platinum or a Ram 1500 Big Horn. Look, they change Americas car culture and I'll happily sell my truck and use the public transport. But in the meantime, I'm stuck in suburban hell, so I'll keep my truck.

[@brucemsabin]

There's a great irony in all these truck owners calling you a Beta while thinking they're Alphas. The fact they're all using the same tropes (Beta, Soy, etc) is evidence they're not original thinkers, but are rather following the culture they've been acculturated into. They think they're Alphas while they've adopted a self-image and identity based on their vehicles, and they've done this because they're followers following what marketing people told them to believe. As you noted in your earlier video, marketing has sought to tie Americana into the truck life, and they've bought into it. It's not like a 1950s man thought driving a full-size pickup was the measure of manliness. This is a recent development created entirely by marketers. Chumps.

[@87wxdiaz]

I also love they have to declare you are beta and they are alpha.... No real alpha would say that n they wouldn't feel threatened by others choice of car or opinion.

[@anchorthesun3438]

Nobody is an original thinker . 99% of the population is no neitzche or Plato that’s going to create something entirely new . Stop seething over the hierarchical nature of human relationships please and thank you

[@brucemsabin]

@@anchorthesun3438 the people seething are the ones coming into the comments to attack because their self-image is threatened, so they need to lob canned accusations, such as "beta" and "soy." The person shaking their head in amusement isn't seething. And nobody here is saying that everyone will be original. Instead, the point is that there's irony in that the people following corporate marketing are accusing others of being followers while claiming they're leaders. As you wrote, 99% aren't original. Yet these people think they're "alphas," as if half the population is somehow the alpha.

[@xijinpingsfavoritehemorrho1328]

In the 50s a pickup was a mark of masculinity, because it was unenviable. No power steering, manual shift on the column, often no power brakes, nearly no suspension. Trucks only became easy to drive in the 90s, and thats the problem. Used to only be people who knew what they were doing. Literally all the problems came from making these large vehicles accessible to small men and women with ego issues. Its like a wheelchair ramp on a hiking trail- accessibility ruins things. When everyone thinks they can do anything and be anyone, the feel good crap turns into pickups all over the road. I drive an old truck, a 93 ford 5 speed 302. It does work, i fix it instead of buying new. I find it hilarious watching owners of new trucks envying the "murican way" i have to do things not by choice. Paradoxically people spend huge money to assume the rugged aspects of being poor. So many compliments on an 800 dollar truck, from new vehicle owners. Ask them why they didnt just buy an old truck, and they say bs about economy or safety. Fact is they know they cant pilot or maintain the thing. Like anything else, do it honestly and you appear manly. Do it for ego, and look a fool. As far as legislation goes, new class of license above D with a real test to drive large vehicles, and a generous tax on automatic transimissions. Thats what we need- the automatic gearbox is the lynchpin of this bullshit. It is the reason this only happened to north america and not europe. They eat more gas, cost 3 to 5x as much to fix, enable distracted driving, enable unqualified driving, the lot. The standard trans keeps seniors, frustrated moms, drunks, children from leaving the driveway in a 3 ton death machine. The only people who take issue with standard shouldnt be driving. If you cant pay attention and move a lever, for whatever reason, should you be trusted behind the wheel? If the stick comes back in force people will immediately discover once again that smaller cars are proportionally easier to drive.

[@harrywoodman2988]

As a former four wheel drive enthusiast turned daily cycle commuter, I think you missed an obvious point, that's a lifted truck lets you literally look down on everyone else on and near the road. It's empowering. Now I laugh at the same folks locked in gridlock while flying by in summer traffic on the beach, priceless

[@thenexthobby]

re: "It's empowering." ... I think you misspelled, "compensating."

[@vjanec_]

Imagine bragging about a $800 “car” payment to be the dumbest drivers on the road.

[@mirandalewis1960]

I used to work on construction sites and the bros were legitimately tearing up proud when the youngest dude got his first F150. The narrative really was “you’re a man now”. Their advice also included such things as “you should run with the boats and hos crowd for awhile, don’t settle down man.”

[@BenKlassen1]

Jobsites can get really muddy . A good 4x4 truck is useful.

[@Lurch685]

That’s what trucks are for. Work/job sites. I’m sick of the soccer moms driving these behemoths.

[@robertdegroot8302]

“you should run with the boats and hos crowd for awhile" What does that mean?

[@bobojenkins5805]

Don't marry a woman they'll just divorce you and take half your stuff

[@bobcampbell2074]

@@BenKlassen1 I worked for a siding contractor for a few years. We never had a 4x4, and we were in the mud more than any other contractor on the site. In the rare times when the truck got stuck, a couple of us riding on the tailgate was enough to get the grip needed to get out. All told, I think we got stuck 4 times in nearly 3 years and it only had to get pulled out once. 4x4 was definitely not worth the extra money for the job site.

[@sambrusco672]

“I’m starting to get the feeling [that] people comment on things on the internet without having read or watched them.” As Morpheus said to Neo, “Welcome to the real world, CityNerd.”

[@lc9245]

I know this channel is based in the U.S for the U.S audience, but there's nothing more terrifying than the American influence on the rest of the world. City planning in developing countries are not going the European, Dutch direction, almost all of them are turning to the U.S as the model. The U.S market influence other growing markets. China, for instance, had its sales of SUV climbed to 40+% since 2016. If we are going in this direction, they might be growing towards pickup truck next. China is a concern, but I am fearful for the other emerging economies that might fall in line with American consumers. At the very least, with certain countries, they are building mass transits systems, similar to China. Others, on the other hand, can't stop expanding their road network to drown cities in asphalt marvels that never take into account externalities because that gets in the way of the big bribe from construction industry.

[@danilooliveira6580]

that is intentional, its better to push the most profitable product to other countries than to make a product specific for them. there is of course, also the influence from the oil industry lobbying, they see the market for EVs and hybrid growing, so the spread propaganda about how EVs are gay and macho men drive a big gas guzzling truck.

[@aimxdy8680]

⁠@@danilooliveira6580I don’t think Ev’s are gay but damn they suck here in the midwest. Here in Indiana, it’s normal for teslas to get gapped by a clapped out silverado with turbos

[@KingFriday274]

Both of my supervisors at work commute over 50 miles a day to their office jobs in V8 pick up trucks. They actually put cargo in their trucks about 2 or 3 times a year.

[@key2shawn154]

What’s wrong with that

[@KingFriday274]

@@key2shawn154 I can't help you.

[@thomaskroll6856]

I don't usually "like" or "dislike" videos but I had to go back and give the original one a thumbs up after watching this. ~10 years ago I would have been one of those commenters, so this video hit real close to home. And thank you for your usual videos. The urbanist/transit topics are what brought me to your channel, but the in-depth analysis and explanation videos - and the fact that you're incredibly transparent about both where you get your data and how you come to your conclusions - are what made me stay. The sarcasm might just resonate a tad as well... So long as you enjoy doing this, I want to encourage you to keep it up. There's too little content of the quality you put out on youtube.

[@applesyrupgaming]

babe wake up new city nerd video just dropped

[@GreenEarth20]

I showed this video to my wife's boyfriend and he really enjoyed it. He's subscribed now and he rang the bell!

[@PaulChillen]

Love it :'D Did he let you watch while he... rang the bell? My wife's boyfriend didn't :(

[@ChickenFriedNachoFries]

thats coo- hey wait a minute…

[@Obi-Wan970]

You randomly popped up on my home page, and your deadpan replies are clever and absolutely hilarious. Subbed

[@MuddyRavine]

Having lived in both Portland, OR and Wyoming, I noticed some definite differences in pickup truck drivers. In Portland, where there is no need to own a pick up, they generally seemed to be making some cultural statement and generally drove, well, a little like jackasses. In Wyoming things were quite different. In Wyoming having some 4 wheel drive vehicle is a good idea for almost half the year for safety reasons, due to crazy snow and instant white-out blizzards. Also, many people haul water, fire wood, alfalfa, horses with their pickups, as in, they were actual working vehicles. And Wyoming drivers were much more likely to drive the speed limit and be cautious than Portland pickup drivers. Also, in Wyoming, where the next town over can easily be 50 miles (Laramie to Cheyenne), bikes are not practical for inter-city travel. That being said, since most Wyoming towns are tiny, intra-city travel is great by bike. P.S. The snark is strong with this one! Keep up the great work! Thanks.

[@the_flushjackson]

Yeah, same but Montana instead of Wyoming. I haven’t looked at what is appropriate for “something with 4WD” in awhile. Trucks in Portland that I see are largely contractors, given all of the remodel / builds going on throughout the region and venturing out into the suburbs and rural areas is where I see the shiny dick compensators en masse.

[@BType13X2]

There is a massive difference between people who have a truck for work reasons and those who have toy trucks. Mine is used for my woodworking business with a trailer to haul cabinets, materials, and I am heating my house up here in Canada with firewood . My truck has no lift on it, it gets studded tires come winter and more importantly my ego is not tied to the vehicle. The moment I have enough money to afford to do so I plan on buying an EV to drive around town / go to the city in the summer time.

[@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333]

Well, Wyoming is home to like 20 people. In plenty of other rural states and areas, people drive pick up trucks for no real reason.

[@iloveanimemidriff]

You nailed it, those urbanites that drive pick-ups to feel manly for the first time ever are the ones that drive this bad and have such a tryhard macho attitude. In this case they should do something else, like I dunno, starting a Fight Club or something.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Some people own proper land rovers here not because they need them but because they are enthusiasts.

[@kamilb.3643]

Idea of driving such a big vehicle for everyday purposes is madness for me. I'm Polish, living in Kraków which is quite dense city. Last year I bought a toyota yaris hybrid and I love it! It's fuel-efficient, average of 4,9l/100km (48mpg) with my records being around 3,5l/100km (67mpg). And I can fit in almost any parking spot in the narrow city centre! Btw, my aunt lives in America for years (but not driving pickups) and when she comes to Poland, she says "they should make bigger parking spots, because people have bigger cars!". My answer is always: "Yeah, but where would we fit them?".

[@Bonanzaking]

Large trucks are in a weird spot now when most get far better mileage than now 10,20, and 30 year old tiny trucks. I’m waiting on a new Maverick to replace my 30 year old ranger. They’re the same small size just about and making a jump from 15 mpg to 40.

[@Freya407]

The thing that I find most hilarious about vanity trucks (i.e. most of them) is just the belligerent lack of self-awareness. Do you reeeeally think you look cool and/or intimidating making a 37-point turn to squeeze your land barge into a parking space marked "compact" just so you can be a couple yards closer to the Target entrance? 😂

[@isthisoneunavailable]

People who _actually_ use pickups want a late 80s early 90s style pickup with modern efficiency. We don't want the absurdly large pickups. We want the towing capacity. Why do you think there are so many late 80s early 90s f250s around? Its a capable mid size truck.

[@conradbielicki774]

I think it comes down to the fact that, for a lot of reasons, people in the USA define themselves by what they buy more than anywhere else. Even the culture of cars has deteriorated. The locus of a 'car person's' identity keeps moving further from the person's interest/skill/abilities in driving/maintenance/fabrication and closer to the car the person owns every day. The same is even true in motorcycles, but at least the pure fun of motorcycling keeps the community a little friendlier

[@thatgreenstuff]

City guy here. I’ve never heard of the maverick and the fact someone called the challenger a luxury vehicle is so funny and explains a lot of these suburbanites driving into town thinking they look cool.

[@TheRandCrews]

Lol here in Canada I barely seen or heard of the Ford Maverick, maybe it’s US market vehicle but most NA vehicles are the same and sold in the 3 counties anyjow

[@raaaaaaaaaam496]

@@TheRandCrews it’s because it only came out last year. Think Rand think

[@alejandrowilcox8198]

City guy #2 here. I only heard about the Ford Maverick a few weeks ago, but its actually great! Just look up some specs/size/range/price

[@Blustride]

I reckon a lot of the people attaching their egos to the size of their truck completely ignore anything coming out of Europe or Asia out of national pride or something. It's either that or they're aware that the Challenger is built on a 20 year old E-Class Mercedes chassis and think that makes it a luxury car.

[@BugOnAChip]

It literally came out like 4 months ago. Yeah, it’s a new pickup and you don’t pay attention to the auto world. Feigning ignorance and being smug af doesn’t make you better than pick up drivers.

[@BijanIzadi]

You are far better at clapping back to those comments than I would be. But my take is it just shows how addicted to the suburban big truck lifestyle we all have gotten that we are in denial that there might be anything wrong. Your channel is one of my favorite on youtube ❤️