PID Tuning Tutorial : OxFPV Acrolite 230

[@NickCent]

This is the best video on PID tuning I have encountered. Sharp mind there - Perfect, thanks!

[@SagiYosef]

The best explanation for PID i've ever find!. Joshua, as for the king of schools, give him a word

[@rl2109]

What PID Tuning? I was so mesmerized by your flying that I hardly noticed anything else! NICE! Really like that transmitter glove, too! SUPER fine video! Thanks for posting!

[@the.piledriver6698]

Thanks Seth for the tutorial, this PID tuning thing is tuff, man I still have so much to learn, keep them coming.

[@itchwaka]

your tune sessions are the best out there, you know tha wei thanks man

[@TheRCAddict]

Lololol thanks man, always showing other da wei ;)

[@harryjoelake7850]

Your best pid tuning video and your best freestyle session bro 👌🔥🔥 love ur work

[@gorace71]

Great vid for a noob like me. Don't totally understand it all but know a lot more after this. Thanks for what you do Seth. Appreciate it. Keep em comin

[@TheRCAddict]

Feel free to ask questions! :)

[@JustInvertedFpv]

Really enjoyed that and a lot of where you ended up on numbers kind of validated what I've been working on with my tune recently! 👍

[@TheRCAddict]

Glad it helps, pretty much most freestyle quads are a similar geometry and weight as this one, so should be pretty close.

[@cameronjacobs3144]

Thanks Seth I feel like I learned a lot please keep the vids coming

[@airborne_fpv1983]

Best PID tuning tutorial I've ever seen

[@hippychip1159]

Dude, you're to hard on yourself, I thought that was a great tune vid, saved it for my new Halo build, think it will keep me on track when I get some time to tune it. Cheers fella, keep up the good work.

[@TheRCAddict]

Thanks man, glad you liked it

[@tabdougherty8549]

Thanks man! for the response and for the work you do for the hobby

[@funKdatFPV]

Love the tutorial. Im still a little shaky on PID tuning but this helps. Love your flying as well, so clean!

[@vit4min4s]

Thanks for sharing how you do your tunning.

[@tabdougherty8549]

Thanks for the pid refresher i could not remember if it was I or P i needed to adjust for for throttle dips

[@TheRCAddict]

Well both play a roll, but the I gain is the more dominant one.

[@MrLanun8x]

Know this is what i 'v been waiting for... thanks bro

[@matthewnoble4534]

I find d set point transition helps soften the bounce back issues somewhat

[@TheRCAddict]

Yeah, it's a form of manual stick smoothing sorta haha

[@cheshirerc]

Nice tune up guide. Beautiful flight at the end.gj

[@grixessedraxis7267]

Dude , great knowledge and epic pilot.

[@Mills_bolubaya]

I have the same problem and it suddenly turns in flight. What was the error and why it does that. What's causing this error. 15:50

[@TheRCAddict]

As explained in the video, I had water on the boards.

[@Mills_bolubaya]

okay, thanks, I get it.

[@gregm8941]

Really enjoyed this video. First time that I have heard anyone explain what P, I and D mean. Would really enjoy a video that explained all of the quadcopter terminology . Many of us have very limited knowledge. Please explain what you mean by oscillation, prop wash and all of the other terms that many new people don't understand. Also I really like your freestyle videos where I can actually see the quad in flight. How many dreamy music flying videos can one person watch? After a while they all look the same. Keep up the great work. Who was Mr. Steel?

[@cooperlile2990]

That’s the one tuning issue I had with my betaflight f4. I had those really weird, inconsistent, low frequency bounce backs after flips and rolls.

[@TheRCAddict]

Hmm interesting. I just fly around it now haha

[@cooperlile2990]

The RCAddict ya me too, I tried messing with the d setpoint transition to soften the stick return but I didn’t have as much luck as doing it manually myself haha.

[@Gazzar19]

Damn that hand warmer is awesome... froze my thumbs up while flying today

[@TheRCAddict]

Yeah, it SUCKS to film with or try launching a wing, but it certainly keeps your hands warm enough to fly in!

[@pippifpv]

I thought the quad also needed p to have the "power" to controll the propwash, as well as d-gain. But you Say it is worse at handling the propwash the more p you give it?

[@pippifpv]

Really great pid tuning tutorial by the way

[@TheRCAddict]

Well to a certain degree yes, but too high of P causes over corrections which make propwash worse.

[@pippifpv]

The RCAddict ohhh. That makes sense. Thx. Then raising d-gain counters the bad p-propwash oscilations, when it gets too high? Right?

[@MrPaulielie]

Nicely done man as usual good review and flying I like it keep it up cheers 🍻

[@MrBartasPL]

How about setpoint d weight/transition?

[@TheRCAddict]

They are good to adjust with your rates, but I just leave them stock.

[@dronereviewman9580]

This was a great POST! Great info and as always nice FLYING!! ..👍👍..

[@NicksMind21]

Great video, tuning in the cold? Are you a ninja? One tip in using the sticks in the OSD, use the left stick to the left moves you out of the menus.

[@TheRCAddict]

Awesome! Thanks :)

[@FPVish]

Great video, as usual. Could you do a video on rates? im hearing rates have to be done before PIDs. And how to set them?

[@TheRCAddict]

I pretty much just set my rates a long time ago and stick with them. They aren't that important to me as I adapt my flying to them.

[@FPVish]

The RCAddict Understood, but how do u learn to set those rates? Could u direct me to a website or video to get into that please? Thanks

[@Jamaicarasramarc]

Amazing video bro! Respect ✊, you fly like a pro! Great pilot Greetings

[@MrOrangeman18]

man you have some skills, i just wish i knew what i was looking for so i could tune mine my self, onmy 3" diatone gt r369 6s im getting some bad prop wash on some tight turns, no idea really where to start,. keep up the great vids

[@kampkrieger]

u are good at it but i still looking for a video where someone points out the effects of too low and too high values of each, so i just don't understand what you did

[@Hellmuthsilva]

I got a diatone r349 and when I come and do a fast u turn it shakes and prop wash, what would I need to adjust mostly on that case? It has 3.57 on it.

[@TheRCAddict]

I mean pretty much every quad is going to have some propwash, especially a heavier 3inch. Best thing to do as you grow as a pilot is to fly around these things by turning and avoid your own wash more.

[@seth1530]

What is the reason for running all the motor directions in reverse?

[@TheRCAddict]

Keeps the lens clean and helps to bounce off of stuff.

[@quinnyrethus]

Great vid. I always like to see different methods of tuning to try. Any chance you could post your GoPro settings including protune settings? Cheers mate.

[@TheRCAddict]

1080 60fps Iso 400 high sharp auto white balance flat color, editing in post of course

[@quinnyrethus]

The RCAddict thanks mate. I’m new to the GoPro Session and see guys trying a locked shutter speed then control exposure with ND filters and such. Your video in those light conditions was great so wanted to check your settings.

[@TheRCAddict]

Haha pretty much stock. And I use iMovie to do post editing, so nothing advanced going on, at least intentionally lol

[@crimsonfancy]

Huge info for me. Thank you very much.

[@staticmotion1628]

great video Seth thnxs, im getting better at tuning thanxs to videos like this one question im getting bounce back on my rolls learning to fly around them but just wondering what usually will help tune these out is it more P ? ty

[@TheRCAddict]

If it's a large 1 time bounce more P should help.

[@imhifpv3997]

i love your tuning videos

[@calebjinks7058]

Great vid. Does it make a difference in tuning when it’s cold because you could have oscillations when he soft mounts on the flight controller get hard?

[@TheRCAddict]

Yes, as well as the air density is different. It is usually not a large amount of difference, but summer vs winter tunes certainly is a thing.

[@shawnpatrickblue9494]

Good job how does your winter tunes fare in the summer when it starts getting hot are you having to. Do a retune. I know batt is henderd but what about the rest Keep kickin ass your the man Thank you

[@TheRCAddict]

Pretty sure the gains come down a little, since the air is less dense when it's warm, thus neededing less PID compensation.

[@BlueHornetFPV]

Great video buddy, thanks for sharing all that effort. 💪🙌 appreciate it.

[@TheRCAddict]

Thanks man, took probably 3 hours to build it, 3 hours to film this, and 3 hours to edit it all last night haha. 9 hours for a 25 minute video, but it's worth it haha

[@BlueHornetFPV]

The RCAddict hours, minutes, seconds. It's all the same it seems when it come to fpv. 👍💪 totally worth it!

[@christianachenbach5920]

Great video! Could you please upload the blackbox files somewhere??

[@TheRCAddict]

I don't take any blackbox :/

[@christianachenbach5920]

You should :-) Then you could verify your result with this software: github.com/Plasmatree/PID-Analyzer

[@christopherevans165]

You are a beast bro,,,keep up the good work

[@JoshKetchum]

Very nice! Thanks for more pointers!

[@WSWarriorsStew]

Thank you for this video!! Very well explained especially noob like me I’m still trying to get my telemetry and osd to work properly. Just me out in my area, I’m getting close though🙂

[@mrx3582]

Can u please do your pid tunings in los ?

[@TheRCAddict]

It's harder to do fine tuning LOS

[@feonix88]

Great tutorial man! Do you think the betaflight FC is the best? I’d like to be able to access OSD through betaflight, and I can’t do that with the flycolor raptor stack I’m using. I was thinking of switching to one of those.

[@TheRCAddict]

I don't really like it due to the pad layout. Features wise it's perfectly fine, but building and repairing is annoying. Pretty much ever FC these days has an OSD.

[@feonix88]

The RCAddict what would you recommend? I’m leaning towards this or the dys f4.

[@TheRCAddict]

New hyperlite F4 V2 coming from Pirolflip, getting a prototype board soon :)

[@feonix88]

The RCAddict I should probably check out the v1 first 🤔 thanks for taking the time to share some advice bro!

[@mongranperspective4809]

Have you had any issues with your BFF4 not arming? Do you why people like Konasty and others are having this issue. I am having the same issue.

[@TheRCAddict]

Never had any issues with this board?

[@Mills_bolubaya]

Hi! What is the total weight of the copter.

[@TheRCAddict]

About 630g.

[@xdroner1009]

Perfect vid, practice not theory..Congrats,thanks!

[@nathank5794]

do you think it’s better to have higher or lower pids? obviously there are different tunes to make a kwad feel clean, which do you prefer?

[@TheRCAddict]

I prefer higher gains and flying around the propwash.

[@R2GO]

I like your tuning video's. Learned allot from it. You have another camera angle for freestyle? Or you go with your race angle? Keep up the good work

[@TheRCAddict]

30 for freestyle 50 for racing

[@jknepp23]

Great video, quick question, With having NF1 and NF2 off along with D gains in the upper 30s you never seemed concerned about hot motors or feeling them. Is that because it was 10 degrees out or because you just don’t feel it’s necessary. Thanks for making the video BTW

[@TheRCAddict]

You would hear the oscillations before running into any issues. I started to get them towards the end so I lowered them, but I have dynamic filtering on and am not really worries about it no. Would need to really crank them up to smoke anything on new betaflight.

[@InvertFPV]

Great Video ,Like always.

[@blazefpv3038]

mkay now, transparent cyclone props??

[@TheRCAddict]

Yep, clear T5046C

[@xtim1974x]

Great video you are a great pilot want are your rates at?

[@TheRCAddict]

In the end of the video ;)

[@StasysFPV]

When you tuning pids, the air mode is on or off? Any filters?

[@TheRCAddict]

As I said, need to refernce this video for my settings. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKawZJmagMZ9nZI&

[@StasysFPV]

OK. Thanks. Just at first I found your video about Pid's tuning.

[@quadsquadfpv2476]

I notice your blades are on reversed from anything I've ever seen. Did you reverse your motors? And why? Thanks, Great vid.

[@TheRCAddict]

I run them in reverse yes, helps keep the lens clean. You must reverse motor direction, change props around, and tell betaflight they are reversed.

[@quadsquadfpv2476]

Gotcha. Thanks for the reply!

[@SplashFPV]

Good tutorial, awesome flying! Subbed!

[@TERBANGFPV]

Did you conformal coat your quad?

[@TheRCAddict]

No

[@DarkAnima270]

How much D would be too much? I'm still using 30 35 from default and i'm scared to go high and smoke a motor because everyone says so :/

[@TheRCAddict]

Well just increase it slowly and test in short flights. You will notice bad things before it smokes if you are getting too high. For me here watching the HD footage towards the end I could hard a lot of oscillations in the camera audio, so I backed down the P and D gains and they went away.

[@DarkAnima270]

The RCAddict thank you so much. Always happy to see new content from your channel keep it up :)

[@smashitfpv3922]

Nice video man! What is the name of the song you used in the video? Awesome flying by the way👍

[@TheRCAddict]

Valence - Infinite

[@RockTouching]

Damn Betaflight is getting so good. No propwash whatsover on that tune. How do you think separate ESC's compare to 4in1's? Do you notice any difference from the spedix you are usually running for example? Using the 4in1 is a good way to shed weight, It's important even on a freestyle quad.

[@TheRCAddict]

I prefer 4in1 always, I was sent these electronics to use though so yeah haha.

[@droneflight8517]

Have you ever hit your self while flying

[@TheRCAddict]

Clipped my legs when flying through them before yes, if anything a small cut.

[@eskrace1104]

Now THIS is education 1on1 ! :D Just juicy awesome! ^_^ hehe

[@Robroy11976]

Are the pid values for racing? what do you adjust on pids if flying freestyle to make it more smoother? Or is the adjustment on rates? Haven't seen a video yet that they show comparison of pid values on racing vs freestyle values :) hope you could be the first one :) thanks. Learned something new.

[@TheRCAddict]

No, this is not a race quad lol. Racing you generally just have higher gains to make it feel sharper as you don't care it is has slightly more prop wash or oscillation.

[@Robroy11976]

The RCAddict oh i get it. So slightly higher P and I gains.

[@Robroy11976]

How about your rc, super rate and expo? Do you change those rates when shifting from freestyle to racing?

[@TheRCAddict]

I have separate rates yes, 1070 deg/s freestle about 550 racing

[@Robroy11976]

Thanks man :)

[@rikverlooy3368]

Awesome vid, thanks.

[@moto___]

Quick question! Are you using Air Mode?

[@TheRCAddict]

yep, always.

[@moto___]

Ok great!

[@trt969]

Do you use any kind of image stabilization while recording the flight or editing thee video? I'm asking because I have to have a point of reference (a goal) while tuning my quad (the parts hasn't arrived yet), I'm on my own in this hobby my sources are web pages and youtube videos, so I can't compare my quad with others IRL... If this video doesn't have image stabilization them I know what I want to achieve, and it can become my "standard"... Thanks =)

[@TheRCAddict]

Yeah, you don't want to use any sort of stabilization. Good luck :)

[@trt969]

The RCAddict Ok thanks!

[@Bobikska1]

Just make it clear for me you have on your gopro stabilization off?

[@TheRCAddict]

of course. No reason to use it

[@pappafa]

wow love your stuff

[@sjcajw7]

I like how you busted out a Mattyflip right when the beat dropped. Nice flying and nice video. Do you think the 32bit ESCs are worth the hype, or is dshot600 performance good enough? I don't really care about ESC telemetry or turtle mode, but dshot1200 sounds impressive haha

[@TheRCAddict]

I mean they are maybe a little smoother, but I would rather have a smaller lighter ESC with 600.

[@sjcajw7]

The RCAddict Thanks man. Good to know. You and Kabob are definitely my favorites. Always enjoy your videos.

[@tabdougherty8549]

gotta get one of those gloves

[@contundente1]

Great video, thanks

[@kobie4238]

I was going to buy the big orange hand warmer from banggood but then i saw the black one!

[@TheRCAddict]

Haha, yeah and now they are available from the US too.

[@faebu8601]

i mostly use stock pids and it seems fine for me

[@TheRCAddict]

Stock PIDs are fine yes, but not in you are really looking into getting the best flight experience and making FPV content.

[@VladAggressor]

Йоу... друг, ты вернулся :)

[@TheRCAddict]

Я не ушел ;)

[@Xplicit_fpv]

amazing vid

[@moto___]

Do you use an ND filter? Solid video :D

[@TheRCAddict]

Nope

[@moto___]

Dang, really solid video! I'm getting a bunch of jello..

[@TheRCAddict]

You have excess vibrations then

[@moto___]

But from where? Everything is rock solid and pids are relatively low.

[@TheRCAddict]

Motors, props, frame etc, some times things just resonate. How do you have the GoPro mounted?

[@jrfpv5603]

What about rc rate .?

[@TheRCAddict]

I didn't go over rates in this video, although if you are beginner the stock rates are pretty good.

[@jrfpv5603]

The RCAddict yeah man I miss the end of the video sorry 😐 thanks so much

[@jrfpv5603]

I’m flying right now with this pid and feel pretty good but maybe I need more rc rate probably because I running 5048 props what you think.?

[@Maorifpv]

Heyyy The RCAddict I can not get rid of some vibrations of the roll axis (i think). I have already reduced the roll P from 56 to 35 (stock is 40) and my quad always vibrates. I'm not sure but I think I have less propwash and less vibrations when I put the roll I below 35. I tried to attenuate the vibrations with the D value but it did not work, I was up to 46 in the D Value. The motors did not heat but I decided not to raise the value of Roll D more than this, was already higher than the value of Roll P. Please check this video, i made a compilation of some vibrations: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3m4gn2Zi6Z7hbs I really need help i dont know what to do anymore. I've been trying tune this quad for 6 months MyGear: Frame: Lisam 210 Motors: DIY FIre 2600 kv Flight Controller: Omnibus F4 pro Vtx: Matek 5.8G 40CH 25/200/500mW VTX-HV RX: Furious fpv true-d v3.5 / Fatshark goggles HD 2 Camera: HS11774 HD CAmera: GoPro Hero 5 Session Current settings: Roll 43 55 39 Pitch 66 50 44 Yaw 85 50 Anti Gravity Gain 67TPA 0.30 / 1650 D Setpoint Weight 1 D Setpoint Transition 0.3 Filter settings: PT1 Notch Filter 1 and 2 disable I also want to ask you what value you use in D set point weight and transition. Thank you, Help me if u can please. 😀😀

[@TheRCAddict]

Do you have things softmounted? You probably don't want this as an answer, but you might have an issue with the FC or ESCs them selves. That is certainly strange and besides that the quad seems to have a perfectly decent tune.

[@Maorifpv]

First of all, thank you for the quick response. This is a problem I have since I started this hobby. Initially I had banggod flight controllers, cheap motors and Esc and thought that was the problem, so, I decided to invest a little more money into better gear. I bought a Genuine FLIP 32 - F4 - OMNIBUS V3 PRO from readytoflyquads.com new ESCS and new motors. The performance improved a lot but when I get to the stage of the fine tune, I cant get the sharp and full smooth fly. These roll axis vibrations are always present. Answering your question, I have the softmounted flight controller. Today I will retune again 😀😀😀

[@TheRCAddict]

What about stock BF 3.2.3? Also RTFQ isn't the best place to get genuine gear, but still should not be having that issue regardless. I honestly haven't seen anything with oscillations on just the roll before like that.

[@Maorifpv]

The RCAddict yap its weird and i cant fix it, today was another failed tuned day. I think um going to buy a new FC. Do you suggest One? And a good place to buy it? I need One with osd and current sensor . Ill give up on This quad. Thank you for help mate

[@RockTouching]

15:50 by the way that sounds like too much D gain, not P gain. Classic fluttering sound.

[@TheRCAddict]

Yep, you are right. Didn't notice till I looked at HD, thus why I dropped them for the final values.

[@bennieleip579]

Nice handwarmer i need that one to😆 expensive? But great vid. Keep it up👍🏻

[@TheRCAddict]

It's $13 haha

[@bennieleip579]

The RCAddict i type wtotoy in by bg but it shows nothing do you got a other name on there?

[@senditfpv6538]

The dogs bollox 👍

[@grandy7829]

Keep up the good content. My first stop for drone videos, "The RCAddict."

[@merc7448]

Interessante ciao

[@importryderify]

190👍👍👍👍😁

[@tryingtomake9871]

Very expensive

[@TheRCAddict]

What is?

[@pappafa]

1st

[@manbolomo]

not really a tutorial when you constantly say things like "i usually just set this to this and that value"...