HI I'M INTERSEX - PT 2

[@MakailaMcDaniel]

My psychology professor said if we end up having an intersex child, we should give them a unisex name and raise them without any specific gender roles. He said to do this because although we see two sexes, the body and mind know what it is from the beginning. So if you wait to make the decision, you won't really have to make one, because the kid will ultimately do it themselves naturally.

[@pidgepagonis]

that's great!

[@puntinprincess7343]

makaila mcdaniel sounds pretty smart to me!

[@Tara-id3rk]

Sounds like great advice

[@MakailaMcDaniel]

+winsletification I understand what you mean, I took French throughout all four years of high school and it's the same way. But usually kids would be able to figure out what they like and don't like by 3 or 4. And I don't know about Brazil, but I know that in French there is a way to refer to someone if you don't know the gender. Just like in English, there is a a passive "they". Like if someone is wearing a Jacket and they have a good up, and you can't tell if they are male or female, you'd refer to them as "they". I guess it'd be weird to always refer to them as "they" or just using their name every time, but it's just as weird in English. I guess it's just something people need to get used to, if they're willing to.

[@YeetusTheFetus]

makaila mcdaniel unfortunately, in romantic (as in Latin-based) languages, “they” is also gendered, and if you have a group of both males and females, you refer to them as the male form of “they”.

[@dreg9001]

I will never begin to understand genital mutilation; if the child can function just fine without the surgery, why have the surgery? doctors are really just making everyone's lives harder by thinking these "cosmetic surgeries" are necessary. parents are pressured to go through with it since they just want what's best for their kid, and the pain these kids go through is just not okay. it would be amazing if doctors learned to give the complete and unbiased facts and allow the patient and their family to make the choices.

[@pidgepagonis]

dreg omg you said it so perfectly!!

[@manoncasse3704]

Thing is they're not really " cosmetic". For example in this case undevelopped gonades just hanging around greatly increase chances of getting cancer.

[@pidgepagonis]

The cancer statistic is inflated, newest research states it's more along the lines of ~5.5%. Not 30% like they claim. pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/radiol.13121068

[@manoncasse3704]

IF one research says 5% and dozen of others say 30% .. :/

[@silverglade9057]

but would you really want to risk that 5 % when it can be avoided

[@tingledom]

This just makes me so angry. So so angry. This should not be happening.

[@pidgepagonis]

tingles with flyby agreed!

[@hoppetosse8]

Just try to imagine you uploaded this video, with exactly what is in it and then sb comments on it like you do. How would you feel, when you read that somebody is talking abt you but not TO you on your own video? That's just ignorant & hurtful! Secondly if you read more about this, you find that often the doctors just say it to scare ppl. It's not their right to do so. Or that it in fact can only start to get cancerous/dangerous when you are older, so there's no need to torture a young baby/child! Ever thought abt the trauma? And it's ignorant to NOT listen to all those voices of intersex ppl who campaign against it (genital mutilations/operations) and say otherwise. It's just, I can't.... how can sb be so ignorant and NOT listening?

[@hoppetosse8]

1. You shouldn't tell anyone that they should be happy to be alive. (WTF? I wouldn't want anyone to talk to me like that!) 2. As I said it's totally unnecessary to do those things at that young age. Also NOT at all clear that sb has to die/getting cancer. It should be THEIR decision! 3. Feeling great? There are a lot who have massive psychological problems (PTSD etc.because of the way they were treated) & also body pain etc. 4. I don't see them pittying themselves (and No you shouldn't tell them to do so - what a stupid argumentation - as if there's only one of those 2 ways to react). 5. You didn't comment on my question in my last comment & just go on w/ talking abt them. You never adressed them directly. This is my last comment now, because I really feel uncomfortable to talk about them on their video and not with them. Bye.

[@rebornrubberducky]

Your brows girl

[@kristakopecky9988]

@ Xarifa Lee The risk of cancer is extremely rare. Honestly if this type of prevention is valid as you say, then I guess every woman should have ovaries removed and every man should have testicles removed to also prevent this cancer. (see how ridiculous it sounds?)

[@realascanb222]

I'm an OB Gyn and let me say this is so awesome. You are super brave and so smart. Thanks for informing us all as to what your experience has been like!

[@realascanb222]

On behalf of all doctors I want to apologize for your experience. Science and psychology are advancing so hopefully less people share your experience.

[@hahaahahaha3235]

Thank you for teaching us about all of your experiences. I am 42 yrs old and i never knew about ANY OF THIS. You are so brave, and so REAL, and just so wonderful that I cannot find the right words to express it. Truly an inspiration. Much love! ❤❤❤

[@hahaahahaha3235]

We are all natural expressions of nature....look at plant life and ocean life for example.... Nothing is one way or the other. The beauty in life exists in the variables...the differences and strangeness in all things. ... And all of it is beautiful.

[@hahaahahaha3235]

ourblueplanet.bbcearth.com/blog/?article=incredible-sex-changing-fish-from-blue-planet

[@sandrastreifel6452]

That paternalistic, professionalism in healthcare here in Canada and the US, was the norm during lots of my life. The concept that patients can be in charge of their healthcare, and have that right, and “informed consent” rather than “I’m the professional, this is for your own good...” has really only been around since the 70’s.

[@AlianaR]

“Mr. and Mrs. Pidgeon” lol that made me smile ☺️

[@MissMoontree]

Pigeon should just study real good and be "doctor" or "professor". Way cooler than Mr or Mrs. They seem smart enough.

[@zoltanaofthedesert]

So fucked up that doctors lied to your parents. You are right to call the drs "savages". The drs lied to my parents too because they explained in terms that they did not understand. Love you, Pidge!

[@ilinel1321]

cant u sue them

[@ashleighortiz406]

This blows everything I have ever been taught about gender right out of the water. Not in a bad way, my mind has always been open to different sexual orientations, but now this whole new perspective to the way I see people and their gender/sexuality/self identification. Thank you for putting these videos out there. I once had a friend, born as a male, transitioned to female, back to male, and continues to this day to sit in limbo. I realize that intersex is a different condition all in it's own, but I now have a more open understanding to my old friend... And I now owe them a HUGE apology, for the statement I made to them that ended our friendship "make up your mind." I'm not even sure that I'm communicating efficiently, and I'm sorry if anything in this comment is offensive to anyone reading this.. I'm only human, trying to understand other humans, and this series of videos has really knocked down a few more walls in my mind so that I can better grasp an understanding of a world that I can never experience first hand. Keep up the positivity, and thank you for the education.

[@MiracleIsMyName]

OMG! I screamed "NO!" right before you said "Yes😑" concerning those doctors permanently damaging you like that. I'm SO SORRY this happened to you. Thanks for being so transparent and telling your story. I know you are an inspiration to other AIS individuals.

[@venusstardustkyojin8116]

I cannot believe the things that happened to you. You're such a beautiful human! when I look at you I think of that thing ruby rose had said to her "we can't decide If you're a handsome man or a beautiful woman" you're both, all and more! you seem to be proud of the person you are! I'm so happy that you could go through so much crap and be so awesome

[@maude313]

This is fucking maddening. Your positivity is astounding in light of all that has happened to you. Sending you love.

[@mahaliabarrow4334]

Tragic. If I have an intersex child, I'm leaving all of their parts alone. Thank you for raising awareness so that people can make educated decisions and advocate for their children.

[@cathykrueger4899]

Do not leave undescended tested alone. They can become cancerous. It’s not a political decision. It’s a medical decision.

[@OhItsTheresa]

I wrote my senior thesis for undergrad on the medical sexual reassignment of children with intersex conditions. It was absolutely horrific to read the stories and look through the medical journals and documentation. I think it's great that you're posting your experience online so that more people have access to this information. The more people know about it, the more likely it is that large, overarching change in the medicalization of intersex bodies can occur.

[@roorooroo368]

I love that you don’t edit out your little mistakes haha it’s much more like I’m having an actual convo with you and I love it

[@pidgepagonis]

THANK you!

[@carolinesuarez8756]

I am so confused and so sad/ANGRY by what they did to you. They said they would only take 'the extra stuff' which is savage, indeed, but they took ALL of it...why?

[@carolinesuarez8756]

NM, i didnt know there was a part 3. Fuckkkkk! Im so mad right now!

[@chileverde]

Take a shot everytime you say go-nads! You will have a fun time.. love ya pigeon. Keep up the positivity

[@loverofbookmovies8984]

Paused show and ran to get my whiskey

[@le_th_]

I wish I could give you a huge hug. You're adorable! I'm sorry your tiny little body was put through so much, and I hope you were able to litigate the hell out of the hospital that allowed them to mutilate you. Some surgeons are straight up psychopaths who have ZERO emotional empathy for others, or they're so narcissistic and entitled that they don't care.

[@missnataliaelizabeth]

This was a difficult video to watch and follow. I wish a lot would have been edited to hear one continuous story. Much love to you though. No hate, just some constructive criticism.

[@roxannehunter4609]

Mermaid Motel I think their point is that because Pidgeon continues to restart the story. It could’ve been edited to be more concise.

[@watcher02571]

I have to agree. No hate to them at all, but I had to give up on the video halfway through. I just find it so hard to focus on with all the restarting and changing things halfway through. Perhaps writing out a loose script or something might help!

[@kikidee6033]

I agree, I would have liked to watch without all the stopping & starting, makes it harder to watch

[@lightblockmountain]

I think it shows the true way their mind flows and how hard it is to tell this kind of story. I do the same thing a lot lol

[@Photograph_and_read]

Totally agree. The story is interesting but so repetitive, very hard to watch

[@lucianabmm]

I've been binge watching this channel today and following their ig for a few days now. Thanks for the informative content for people like me who have little or zero knowledge on intersex people's topic. I'm perplex and still processing the brutal information I just watched. Makes me want to hug them and help their cause. Already watched the latest vid, so now I know how to. Warm hugs from Brazil, Pidgeon.

[@pershorty]

Those doctors were so wrong! You're very brave to share your life's journey!

[@pidgepagonis]

thanks!

[@johnathanfiske14]

I'm an XY but with female parts. Thank you for sharing your story.

[@itisme8076]

You learn something new everyday which I definitely just did. This must be extremely difficult to deal with. I loved how natural you are and your personality shines through!

[@M.o.v.emeant911]

I wish I felt this comfortable about my condition too. I've even been on the Tyra Banks show for this and still am learning to love myself completely and mentally undo so many lies told

[@ninab8437]

If I ever have an intersex child I’m definitely doing my own research before letting them do shit to my child. You are so wonderful and are definitely making a difference by sharing your story because it’s bringing awareness to this subject! Thank you ❤️

[@pidgepagonis]

Thank you!!

[@jumeauxelaine3960]

The fact that doctors removed a completely healthy, normal clitoris from a 4 year old child is FUCKED up. This is so so messed up, how is this even legal? I'm so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for sharing your story and spreading awareness! If I'm ever blessed with an intersex child, I'll be leaving their parts alone :) their body = their choice

[@Steven-hq3go]

They removed it because it wasn't normal. The downside is she has reduced sexual pleasure which isn't always a bad thing, she's less likely to be promiscuous and catch STDs

[@CatalleyaStorm]

In University we talked about FGM a lot and how it happens in other countries and even we would talk about ways to end it. I doubt these same instructors know about Intersex Genital Mutilation. I will bring it up every time from now on, and it's happening in the US too, and people NEED to know that!

[@pidgepagonis]

[@OyayoTheStorm]

Hey, Leya. Yoli here. Did you continue to bring it up?

[@lechatleblanc]

Really interesting medical topic because it seems that all politicians ignore this medical phenomonon

[@tylerarmstrong917]

Man intersex is so interesting. Crazy how all that works.

[@pidgepagonis]

YUP!

[@lodestarinbound329]

Tyler Armstrong Could be a disease caused by the environment.

[@gothicskypuppers1375]

Lodestar Inbound next time on how to insult an intersex person

[@LiketheplanetMars]

Lodestar Inbound it’s a genetic syndrome meaning their actual genetic information was mutated in a way that made them unable to respond to testosterone ... this was said multiple times.

[@3jsmj896]

Tyler Armstrong U need to educate yourself on it.

[@feelingkevinly]

Gosh thanks so much, I'm late to these videos but I'm learning so much! Thank you for being visible and educating the public on these matters. I'm from Chicago too and it's horrible to hear that this is standard practice to this day. The more people know, the sooner we can change these practices! You are awesome, I'm subscribing!

[@Spennydoesart]

4 mins in and the story hasn't even progressed from Part 1.

[@NunyaBiznez2010]

IKR. :-(

[@savannahrose2605]

Spenny So what

[@oxmarie]

Yeah the whole gonads being removed, having testies and cancer has been repeated over and over

[@graveyardsoil]

Yes. Ikr and still watched it all the way through. 😂👐

[@mooselove]

They aren’t a professional KZbin or at this point and did their best to present it in a clear concise fashion. If it’s not going fast enough for you then speed it up or skip forward.

[@vrennonica5725]

"it's a savage move". You're speaking truth in every video. New subscriber right here. Wish you joy and happiness Pigeon

[@IAFoodReviews]

Parents expect Doctors to tell them the truth & actually help, it's sad some lie to them & don't do their job right. Btw I was thinking of that guy saying "Why you always lying" then you played it haha

[@pidgepagonis]

Israa A.bass yyyaaassssdss we on the same mental note

[@ghouling1111]

Most of them lie

[@KoopaBOOEY]

Pidgeon I really resonated with your videos on doctors thinking that the patient is too ignorant or stupid to know what’s best for themselves, so the doctors think any advice they give the patient or patient’s parents will be perfect. While I’m not intersex, I just had awful experiences with older white, male doctors who were complete assholes and their white male privilege back then allowed them to be douchebags to me, and my dad. Your videos helped me realize that it is always a good idea to be as educated as you can on anything so that you can spot when a doctor or “professional” is not thinking in your best interest, and they are thinking on their own interests or acting on their biased advice that does not consider the patient’s situation. Were your parents not as educated, and is that why they unquestionably followed the “doctor’s” advice? I don’t blame your parents, just the doctors on messing with your life. It really makes me angry that they would make you go through such bullshit.

[@debbimendez307]

I guess if Dr's don't do this they won't make any money I worked at a hospital and the Dr's had quotas like the ob guns had to have so many hysterectomy so all of a sudden I start getting all kinds of paper work for hysterectomy, then they come up with so many c sections then I get all kinds of paper work from c sections,there is so much that goes on at the hospital it's not just the Dr's it's the whole system

[@liveoak144]

You are very brave to make these videos. Hopefully, it will raise awareness so parents can make informed decisions. I am so sorry that this happened to you.

[@duzi13]

This person has repeated the same part of the story like 5 times omfg

[@hsmoscout]

yeah this is not good editing

[@icedmf]

I'm laughing nvnnnvncmv

[@hoppetosse8]

oh, yeah, that's the most important thing abt this clip right? Ever thought that firstly, this is intentionally left in? Because secondly it's hard to talk about it & you actually might think/talk in circles / repeat stuff because of it? For me this really sounds truthfully like it's done. Thanks Pidgeon! :)

[@DafirahDwiPutri]

LMAO

[@MissVioletSage]

hoppetosse8 so well said. This takes courage to be so open about. So glad I found Pigeon!

[@michelleharrison7388]

Thank you so much for sharing your story! It’s so important that the world knows about this. And I think you‘re brave for putting yourself out there and sharing these experiences. Thank you!

[@mohra3392]

I really want to listen to this but you keep repeating what you're saying.

[@tuberose4601]

well this is there first time after all. that's why I'm glad u told em so they can learn

[@NunyaBiznez2010]

Ack. IKR. So hard to watch. :-( They should edit the dang video.

[@eaking523]

I know. I'm trying to not be negative, but the video is hard to watch

[@MysticRhythmsYoga]

That arbitrary 1.5cm number is insane... I love your charisma and humor and positivity, thank you for your vulnerability too!! My only experience with intersex identity was a fictional novel titled Annabel. I will be buying your memoir soon!!

[@robertfaust2079]

I am so sorry that you had to go through that. Those procedures are way to common and have to be stopped.

[@pidgepagonis]

Robert Faust agree 💯

[@ssk6010]

I just love the fact that he/she does not edit those bits when he/she doesn't know what to say. Such a sweet person. I don't understand why doctors still have a problem with Intersex people, they call it a 'condition'. It's not any disease, they're perfect people born in a perfect way.

[@jminay]

Oh my goodness 😭 I’m so sorry what happened to you thank you for speaking out & spreading awareness

[@180bonita]

I'm so beyond sorry about the surgery you had, I cant begin to imagine. I'm truly at a lost for words about that incomprehensible butchery! God bless you. You're brave and an amazing individual. My mouth is agaped. ❤💋

[@whod0934]

I'm so sorry this happened to you and other intersex people. Honestly, I had never heard about this so I'm glad you're doing this :)

[@pidgepagonis]

Thanks for taking the time to learn more about intersex people and our cause

[@bbygirljohnson43]

Wow, Pidgeon, you are such a beautiful person. I love the fact that you are able to tell your story with a smile. I hate what they did to you and your family. I pray this reaches ppl and it helps them to understand that they need to be patient with their children.

[@TiffanyGrey]

LOL @ "look, mr and mrs... pidgeon" love these videos xo

[@pidgepagonis]

yay, glad you laughed :)

[@jojocouture05]

In legit heart broken after hearing this! Thank you for telling your story you’re such an amazing person!!

[@3tst]

we need to protect children from any type of genital mutilation including circumsicions. So sad

[@matthias8122]

yahkneenah Circumcision doesn't effect your identity and has health benefits. You can't really compare that to this.

[@sayuri_vibes]

Meghan Hirsh it's still genital mutilation

[@АндрейБоскариёл]

Thank you Yahkneenah. Being a victim of the latter myself, I wish my parents knew. I wish someone told them that there are no benefits to circumcision, just less functional genitals. If only they knew. But they didn't. And I'll never get to enjoy an intact body. It's irreversible. I feel like crying.

[@karinanerett9968]

I'm a female so I've never gone through that nor will I have to, but I'm so sorry that's happened to you or any other male. It's disgusting and barbaric to mutilate an infant's genitals on the basis of fictitious, completely unfounded wives tales.

[@АндрейБоскариёл]

You're absolutely right Karina! I find it so bizarre that this still happens in the USA and Canada. I think it's sorta a fluke in a way- the only reason it hasn't been vulgarized in society is because not enough people put the spotlight on it and really question the practice. It needs attention. It doesn't help that most people are uncomfortable talking about this issue publicly, or simply with other people. I am certain that given enough time, most people will think "what the hell were they doing back then- with all of that technology and medicine at that time and they were still acting like savages?". Sweden has already banned routine mutilation of children.

[@forlucidlovers]

Thank you sooooo much for educating me on this! You are so brave and I respect you on so many levels.

[@sweb3590]

I'm like if I hear the word "gonads" one more time I swear I'm going to jump off my 3rd floor apartment

[@nulno]

Shana Webster don't watch then hun

[@xo7499]

"i'm like " seriously? how about you fix the way you talk before judging . and she used gonads because they thought they were ovaries.

[@xo7499]

exactly, Jak. she watched at east both parts of the video and still think it has a right to complain

[@WebVManReturns]

Go.... Joe! G.I. Joe....

[@Eecw1188]

*Jerry springer audience* "DO IT! DO IT!DO IT!"

[@hello_moto036]

I can't believe how light hearted of a person about this u are after having gone through so much. I'm sorry you had to go through that.

[@larasoto1991]

Well, I'm feeling pansexual right now.

[@Opheliamamars]

I'm a parent and I couldn't imagine doing this to NY child. However I'm more educated about different things than my parents were. My parents were born in the 50s, so I can imagine if they had an intersex child they would have followed doctor's recommendations. I want to say that I think it is beautiful how you understand where your parents were coming from and how you aren't angry with them.

[@blakereeder1714]

I am actually this friday going to see a urologist to get blood work done to see why my testosterone level is almost non existent and that my estrogen and prolactin level is so high and why when on the outside im a male but I have female periods so yeah gonna get some answers my primary care doctor said i actually may have an unattached uterus in side me.

[@pidgepagonis]

Blake reeder keep me updated

[@blakereeder1714]

Pidgeon I absolutely will!

[@lewasil]

You have periods? So you bleed out of your penis? That is scary for you.

[@รtค-j1t]

how did it go?

[@Sandra-nv9wm]

Blake reeder how did it go?!

[@kassidyh4704]

I’m shook. I hope this isn’t insensitive or offensive, but this person got so many GOOOOD “masculine” AND “feminine” features. You are a beautiful person!

[@roxanasafipour3610]

I love the series, thanks for making this! And I am so shocked and horrified to hear that doctors would do something like this! Whatever happened to the Hippocratic Oath?

[@pidgepagonis]

Exactly!! I'm writing an essay on that topic right now!!

[@alfredsmalley25]

You are one of the bravest people that I've seen in my life. Stay strong

[@UnSubGimposaurus]

What the fuck? What the ACTUAL FUCK?! God, those doctors have me so angry right now...

[@SarahGobran]

I’m so happy your talking about this. This will help so many other intersex people and also teach people who think intersex is just a myth

[@IntersexdudewithTS]

Wow. so impactful and sounds so familiar. You made me cry knowing you're out there and the same as me. 😭

[@pidgepagonis]

gayTouretteandOCDer hugs

[@Scampers224]

I'm a med student in my first year and found your video while researching for class today...I know things are changing in medical education a lot right now but activism and information spreading to currently practicing doctors who were taught to lie and do surgeries like this so important!!!! Thanks for telling your story and helping to educate the world!

[@SonicFrequency]

You're doing awesome pidgeon! I'm so happy to see you on KZbin! This is such a perfect platform for you!

[@pidgepagonis]

Simran Realness Revolution thank for the the continued support and positivity :)

[@SonicFrequency]

You have educated me so much! The world need your message!

[@pidgepagonis]

Simran Realness Revolution ty so much 💕

[@pilorin]

There is no words to describe what they've done to you and your parents! I hope you get justice, even if this won't change what has been done to you. I send you a big, motherly hug from Sweden

[@acd6835]

Geez, I'm intersex and I can relate, I went through those surgeries as well, except thankfully the removal of my 'oversized' clit which the doctors wanted to do when I was a baby! Thanks to my Mum though who refused their recommendation, and so it was never removed. Unfortunately they did everything else though.

[@pidgepagonis]

go mom!!

[@adamwise1111]

I actually love your voice. Idk why, it's just so friendly and calming! I could listen to it all day tbh.

[@rachelh9150]

I'm against doctors messing with genitalia, which is why I didn't allow my baby to be circumcised. It might not seem like a similar issue, but it's definitely linked. Doctors do more harm than good when they preform unnecessary surgeries.

[@ericvelazquez-sanchez5644]

Omg, this is very heart breaking. I am so sorry that you went through this. Thank you for the courage to educate us all.

[@twinnertwinnerchickendinne1247]

That little clip of “why your always lyin”... 8:30 LMAO 😂

[@tosheatower]

OMG... I can’t believe how positive you are, I would be a crying mess telling this story.

[@II-gj7vq]

56 year old transexual that was examined at 14 and a half by doctors at Stanford University for transsexualism who also told my mother very abusive things told myself very abusive things and sent me on a tailspin for 25 years believing that I was monsterous so I feel your pain I'm so sorry for the way you've been treated but humans can be so self-righteous

[@melaniemills6796]

Rani Moore much love to you ❤️ amazed at how incredibly strong a person can be in the face of decades long ignorance and erasure.

[@AnthoneikaSada]

I'm literally FURIOUS. I feel so bad for you, but also your parents. How are these people even considered medical professionals?! Thank you for opening me up to this. I'm so sorry that happened to you, but I thank you for sharing so that I can be aware for when I become a mother. Keep fighting the good fight. ❤️

[@tarquisthomas1745]

That is so sick. I can't believe they did this to you and your parents. What the hell? And us parents are not supposed to question doctor's judgements? I am so sorry this happened to you.

[@tntsand3045]

Well this situation is truly a born this way situation ! A situation that I could understand and support! You are one of the few that would have the option and the right to choose !

[@EatMyOREO5]

Man, doctors can reeeeeeally fuck up sometimes.

[@AvoryFaucette]

Ugh, I hate that you had to go through all this. Thank you for speaking out and raising awareness. Also, you are the cutest and it makes me really happy to see fellow non-binary folks starting channels and normalizing (or--some other word, who wants to be normal?) a range of gender identities.

[@sarahhorner7482]

Hello Pidgeon! I came here from your buzzfeed video. I just wanted to say that I love your videos :) OK bye hehehe xxx

[@sandamalijayaratne5341]

Im so sorry to hear that they remove ur whole clitoris and still practice upto today. Despite all the odds im glad u were strong to grow up as this beautiful person and share ur story. Im going through a rough period and this gives me strength . Thank you.

[@ligareimane5307]

Is no one going to talk about them being called Pidgeon?

[@jessamonet2634]

You're so brave to come forward and talk about yourself on KZbin.. I appreciate the correct information because I was curious about the intersex condition. Thank you :) *hugs*

[@pidgepagonis]

Jessa, thank you for saying that, and coming here to learn about intersex. And *hugs* back at ya!

[@agapeeternal]

Hey Pidgeon, I know you're gender non conforming, so do you use "they" pronouns?

[@pidgepagonis]

Yes, but I don't mind when people use other pronouns...

[@KoopaBOOEY]

Pidgeon I was wondering that myself. Would it be okay to always use “they” or “them” when referring or addressing an intersex person, or would it be better to ask first on how they would like to be addressed?

[@autisticzuko2750]

Yo giraffe, just like with everyone, ask which pronouns they use. Not all intersex people go with they/them, some go with he/him or she/her or even both.

[@samanthapratt4611]

Pete Bloczynski or ze/zim

[@stephss]

Thank you for being courageous and sharing your journey. It really saddens me that you were forced to have that surgery... I'm going to make my way to your 3rd video now. xo

[@taylorclay2122]

Hi Pidgeon. What are your preferred pronouns?

[@taylorclay2122]

the things the doctors did to you should not be happening, I have no words

[@sissyrayself7508]

I think Pigeon' s preference for a pronoun is 'it" and "it's".

[@ANGRLLL]

Violet Sinclair that's stupid she's one person

[@l5468]

+Cameron Guitar In English, you can refer to a person as "they" if you don't know their gender.

[@krista4611]

I know I am two years late, but your story is fascinating and you are a beautiful person. It's really very easy to watch you speak, even though it's a bit repetitive at times lol.

[@CandysChannel]

😢😢😢😢😢😢 I am so sad to hear what happened to you. Did your parents sue the hospital? They could of course!

[@pidgepagonis]

Candy's Channel no, because pf statute of limitations but there is a lawsuit going on in SC - search the internet for #Justice4MC

[@bruce1533]

Your story is so much like the story of Calliope in the book Middlesex. I am sorry that you have suffered. I am sorry that doctors were not entirely truthful with your parents. I hope you have a happy and good life and that you always accept yourself just as you are. You are a good person. Thank you for sharing so honestly. You are helping many people. Have happiness.

[@monicajarquin4030]

Keep it up you're doing great! Don't get frustrated, everybody trips up in the beginning! So much love and support from me no matter what! ❤

[@pidgepagonis]

Monica Jarquin thanks boo 😬😬

[@NectarFromARose]

thank you so much for this series, i'm learning so much from your talk :) Of course, it's one thing to read and research about the different types of intersex but that will never be able to replace actual human beings lived experiences. You're kick ass Pidgeon !

[@Achiru]

Hi Pidgeon! I just came across your vlog last night and despite how tough and personal this topic is for you, I must commend your eloquence so far! I have a question for you: if you were to see a fantasy film or comic which stared intersex characters (as elves, gnomes, trolls and other mythological races), would you want it set in a utopian or dystopian world? For the utopian society of course, the babies born and their parents would be given adequate information about the condition to make an informed decision as to whether surgery is medically necessary, and in the dystopian society it is not but reflects on our real world rather than imagined scenarios. Which would you rather see first represented in mainstream media if given a choice?

[@pidgepagonis]

I think utopian because imagination is always required before revolution. :D But I would probably enjoy watching a dystopian film more lol.

[@mollyb3549]

What happened to you is heartbreaking!! Thank you for the courage to tell your story.

[@Ibeenflew]

You are the sexiest person I've ever witnessed in my life. But anyway lol since you and gender neutral, do you use they/them pronouns?

[@pidgepagonis]

thegrlwhocudfly yes

[@pidgepagonis]

thegrlwhocudfly and thank you 😬

[@mzvibe2232]

Pidgeon so glad I found your channel! I can now win an argument from 3 years ago about singular they pronouns! SUPER SEXY BTW. WISH I WAS YOUNGER😘

[@dtmdea0764]

thegrlwhocudfly No

[@ANGRLLL]

thegrlwhocudfly isn't that stupid tho? If someone said "they don't need that" they would think it's more than one person. I hope you arent one of those people that get pissed off when someone missuses pronouns or whatever.

[@keylanistyles]

I'm so sorry this happened to you! Thanks for sharing your story! You need to sue these doctors!!!! This is ridiculous!!!

[@ItsMeKelso]

Most doctors suck at dealing with rare syndromes. I'm sorry you were lied to, it's hard to kno what's really going on with ur body when it comes to rare syndromes. Is that illegal for them to remove that? Originally they were just going to make it smaller… I recently learned about the eugenics program in California was at one time sterilizing people without their consent !

[@jschms1999]

I totally get why you would dislike doctors and your case breaks my heart but also pushes me even more to want to become a doctor to make a change!

[@waterguns-gl8tk]

Pidgeon you're so cute

[@pidgepagonis]

Thank you Tylar

[@turtlewalzer]

I'm so sorry they didn't understand that you were perfects just as you are. You are awesome.

[@TiffanyGrey]

it saddens me hearing these stories, and how the medical field is so prescriptive (no pun intended) and how society so easily goes along with this normalisation, creating a dichotomy between "normal vs abnormal" means they immediately create a "good vs bad" that justifies genital mutilation :( And how this is done down to the centimetre! :( it mirrors the frustrations i have with my autoimmune disease, an invisible illness, hundreds of doctors will say "you're not sick if your hormones are between a certain level" when in reality my immune system is attacking itself. Heaven forbid you question these doctors or search for one that thinks outside of the box. hell, the only reason women lay down to give birth is because its easier for doctors. faaah. rant over, keep the videos up :) definitely just subbed x

[@pidgepagonis]

I hear you Tiffany. You hit the nail on the head. Thanks for the comment. Hope you find a good doctor

[@reflectionsinthebible3579]

Tiffany Sherii i have had 4 babies and I would rather lay than squat... but they actually do give you the option if medically safe for you.

[@susanschaeffer1295]

You are a remarkable human being. So courageous at such a young age. I applaud you for speaking your truth and educating me. Keep on, keeping on. Let your light shine!

[@phoebe969]

I understand completely how outrageous it is the doctors lied to your parents, but undescended testes do have a high risk of becoming cancerous so it probably is good they removed them, just very very wrong for them to lie to your parents about wh at they were

[@frogmouth]

It's not as high as the risk of getting cancer from the sun in my country . The advantage of keeping gonads in is that they might eventually do the owner some good in producing hormones that protect against osteoporosis. The sensible course of action is wait and watch

[@SuperSoniayadav]

You are a beautiful young girly boy, you choose to be who you want to be. And I agree that no doctor should make a decision on doing a clitoridectomy. But is definitely a good thing that you coming out and talk about it so a lot of people can understand intersex people like you. You and other intersex people should do something so that everybody needs to learn about this, and to be taught in every school so you all are received the understanding you all deserve. I am proud of you to come out and explain something that can be difficult for many other like you. Keep your positive attitude and I’ll pray for your happy human being that you are. God bless you.

[@christhesoprano]

What they did was not okay!

[@RuthEveryoneMakesMusic]

Thank you for sharing your story. I am sorry for what doctors put you through.