Piers Morgan: The Insider Book! LUNCH With Diana & William/The CAMILLA comment! 🧐

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Shauna x In Piers Morgan's book The Insider, he tells of the time he had lunch with Princess Diana and the 13-year-old Prince William.
I tell the story of that lunch and also let you know how Ryan Parry, the fake footman won scoop of the year!
#princessdiana #princewilliam #piersmorgan
LINK: Ryan Parry's article in The Mirror: www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-li...
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00:21 What happened to Ryan Parry?
02:05 Piers, Diana & William
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[@arvie89]

I think this shows what type of parent Diana was to her children. You don’t bring your children into your marriage problems. I am glad that William met Catherine and her family and saw what a normal happy relationship they have among themselves. William have matured into a great man.

[@thevintageread]

Yes he has!

[@user-1994]

Diana was very immature when she got married and had her kids. Some people are mature by 20, and she wasn't, unfortunately.

[@candicetneh1620]

I always wondered did Diana do the real harm to Sparry..by telling him he is William’s spare even ..parts? A mother in her role should be more astute and sensible.

[@abbatrouble]

@@candicetneh1620 Diana could never be described as sensible. She was called dumb by her own family and by her teachers and failed out of school at 16 years of age and never passed one course.

[@jmfs8738]

@@abbatrouble. A child who has problems at school has parents who aren’t prioritizing the need for education. Perhaps they didn’t think aristocrats need education, and so therefore, assistance, but children who are failing don’t need to be called dumb.

[@alp6244]

Diana was protective of her boys, but she also brought them to the forefront when it served her purpose. It appears William came away from those experiences unscathed. Sadly, Harry did not.

[@thevintageread]

No Harry did not!

[@Anna_Key]

Controversial opinion, I think Diana wanted people to believe she was the good, fun parent, but Diana put the boys into more public situations with papp shots than Charles did. Charles' holidays with the boys were on their country estates or ski slopes, with one pre-arranged photo call. Diana had more public, fun times, "look at us, we're having so much fun!". Diana would have LOVED Instagram! The Instagrammable life was more important to her. In that way, Meghan is exactly like Diana, and Harry picked up on their similarities.

[@Veronique428]

@@Anna_Key The fun moments Diana had with her sons, certainly it was to compassionate that her mother wasn’t there when she grew up, she made sure to do all the things she didn’t do and had with her mother. Additionally those fun moments are the only souvenirs left for William and Harry to cherish, as a memorable remember of the precious time spent with their dear mother.

[@Anna_Key]

@@Veronique428 right, and "luckily" Diana made sure tabloid reporters were there to film her being the fun Mum.

[@3_times_mum520]

Diana used everyone around her, including her children!!!

[@katiehill619]

The story about Camilla is very sad -- dragging kids into the bitterness of a parent's divorce is horrible. Happens way, way too often and is always, in every case, very damaging to the children. The Camilla haters seem to act from a weird belief that if not for her coming back into Charles' life, Charles and Diana would have had a happy marriage. Not bloody likely. Two less suited parts of a couple it is hard to imagine

[@thevintageread]

Yes even Diana admitted in the end it wasn’t Camilla that broke up their marriage!

[@abbatrouble]

@@thevintageread She even admitted that Charles only went back to Camilla because he found out about her affair with Hewitt and that SHE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO CHEAT!

[@spiritcreek9813]

I think the Camilla haters have had their own personal problems with relationships that have nothing to do with the Royal Family. Projecting.

[@desnann]

Thankyou

[@RealtyBrevard]

Diana was a narcissist and William was made to feel that he was responsible for her happiness.

[@maryann6884]

I think you got a Diana right. William seems to act pretty age appropriate, with a caveat. Diana was his Mother. The divorce was extremely difficult, and I’ve heard poor William was her “shoulder to cry on”. Pretty young, in other words. He probably wanted his happy Mother back, and would risk saying things to cheer her. She later admitted Mrs. Parker-Bowles was NOT the problem in the marriage with Charles. Although, she managed to refer to her for a period as “the Rottweiler”. And, Unfortunately, I Imagine she used the phrase around her young children. Too.

[@dianad1968]

I was a HUGE fan of Diana, and was sad and angry when the marriage ended. However, the more I hear and read about her now, makes me think she was not this paragon of virtue that so many thought she was, and if she had lived may not have been very popular. William, a young boy just going through puberty was used by his mother to confide in, and no matter how much she loved her boys, what she did was selfish and wrong. I'm so happy for William that he found a lovely and seemingly kind woman with a strong family.

[@thevocalcrone]

@@dianad1968 I agree.. her popularity was startign to wane just before her death, because she was reported to be partying, living a bit of a jet set life style. She was supposed to be extricating herself from the Anglican Church and was reported to be considering becoming a catholic and then she connected to a few muslim men and was said to be considering conversion to islam. in fact i'm sure if she had lived the pendulum would have swung, she died before it did.

[@BevHart]

Was William there to serve Diana's narrative, Diana played in the media really well.

[@thevintageread]

I wondered…

[@corriepitt7630]

I will not read the Perry article. The Queen did not deserve this peek up her skirt - so to speak. Dishonorable and sleazy.

[@RLW369]

Perceptive and empathic sons are often very aware of their mother’s moods, likes, and dislikes, without there being a great deal of explicit conversation. I believe William’s relationship with his mother was in many ways closer and more “adult” than Harry’s, which is probably why he is able to love her memory without the Oedipal level of worship that cripples Harry.

[@chanelv5373]

I agree with your comment. I also still think Harry has guilt over the last phone call from his mother. That could haunt him still to this day without the right kind of therapy.

[@ptrpan61]

Agree with you , Rebecca. Harry is stuck in the worshiping of Diana whilst William saw more adult behaviors of Diana and so he as a much healthier view of his mum and her memory.

[@virgiernelson4492]

Kids mirror the conversations that happen at home. Diana knew she could depend on William to blurt out something that would besmirch two of her biggest enemies. William was innocent of being used. In my opinion.

[@ringwe]

I'll always defend my unpopular opinion that Diana was not a good mother. Nobody disputes she loved her boys but love alone doesn't make a good parent. She dragged two little children in adult problems and disputes instead of shielding them. No small child should ever feel it's his or her role to protect the parent it should be the other way round.

[@JenMaram63]

As you say, love alone does not make a good parent. But, she did the best she could under changing circumstances. And there is no doubt that she was very much a hands on mum when those boys were younger. Diana became increasingly paranoid and obsessed about the Royal Family, and she was awfully manipulated and lied to by Bashir to give that BBC interview. She latched onto fitness gurus and astrologers for guidance, instead of good friends and a good psychiatrist. Terribly sad really.

[@virginia3222]

Those of us with rubbish mothers would be happy to be Diana’s child. And you don’t have to be perfect to be a good mother. 😊

[@deedominguez6988]

PW appears as though he was always the protector of his mom. I think he went through a lot during the divorce and Diana’s occasional erratic behavior.

[@juliettelynne5861]

I believe too much adult pressure was put on William in his young life from several different directions. It is amazing that he has turned out so remarkable and honorable.

[@Veronique428]

Honorable? According to who?

[@juliettelynne5861]

@@Veronique428 The entire world!

[@thomasinavolkman4456]

Diana and her siblings were very cruel to their stepmother after their father remarried. They would place tacks on her seat cushion and play pranks on her like a bunch of spoiled brats. When her father died they took all of her belongings, put them in trash bags and left them outside. I think her name was Raine and she was Barbara Courtland’s daughter. On the other hand Diana was a big fan of Barbara’s romance books about Princes and Princes and this was probably her only source of extracurricular reading. Diana went into that marriage thinking it was all going to be like some fairy tale but the gross incapability of her and the scholarly Charles was so wide what in the world did they have in common except the two boys. That marriage was doomed before it started.

[@abbatrouble]

She even shoved her stepmother down the stairs.

[@slinkysmom5674]

Based on what you read and not having read the book it sounds like she brought William in on purpose to make these comments that she couldn’t make.

[@thevintageread]

Yes it crossed my mind but then again maybe not? Hard to tell really!

[@tricianilsson6870]

I will say what my boss used to say- we should nor go up the inference ladder.

[@abbatrouble]

She used Andrew Morton to tell everything she wanted the world to believe but claimed that she didn't take part in the writing. She used everybody around her.

[@barbraluce5706]

@@abbatrouble , sounds like Meggsie, doesn't it?

[@EllieD.Violet]

​@@abbatrouble... and now Harry mirrors her by using this Scobie guy in exactly the same manner.

[@Loobylooto2]

Thank goodness for the Middleton family as they provide a stable presence in their children and partners and have given William the opportunity to be part of a family with love for everyone

[@SarahGreen523]

From what you've shared, I'm left with the uncomfortable feeling that maybe Diana was manipulative and enabling with her children, as well as she was with the press. Hard to say, but.... ya, uncomfortable.

[@ptrpan61]

It's no secret diana was manipulative and at times immature. I wanted to see only her sweet side but that's not reality. We all have a public persona.

[@anniketimmermans1900]

We all say things as youngsters we would not ever say when we are adults, either because we look at things from a different perspective or know what is appropriate/inappropriate to say. William, even though a prince, is a youngster at only 13 in this meeting, probably not aware yet of what can and cannot be said to an outsider.

[@thevintageread]

Yes I said that 😊

[@johoff457]

This puts a whole new perspective on Meghans dinner with Piers immediately before meeting up with Harry.

[@jackiegould1569]

I would think Diana had specifically got William to say these things as he may have been young but its not like he was 5! With harry, when he used to stick his tongue out at the press Diana laughed. It wouldnt surprise me if Diana had also tried to turn the boys against their Dad too. She could be a nasty piece of work and very manipulating - remind you of anyone else we know?

[@abbatrouble]

Diana tried to turn the whole world against Charles and Camilla with her lies, interviews and her book written with Andrew Morton.

[@Veronique428]

You’re confusing Kate to Diana, because the first one was laughing hysterically when her daughter Charlotte was sticking her tongue, the second one removed Harry after he did so, or Diana will put her hand on Harry to signal him to stop his nonsense.

[@jackiegould1569]

I am not at all. Harry never got chastised for anything he did including kicking his brother. Plus Kate could never be called a nasty piece of work and would only laugh if approriate. Sticking tongue out in fun is a klot lot different to sticking tongues out to be rude to strangers@@Veronique428

[@It-Is-What-It-Is.]

I believe William was also badly affected by their parents' bad marriage and probably suffered as much as Harry if not more because he knew more. But being the oldest son, elder brother, groomed to be King, has a family, and realizes his huge responsibilities, he learned the art of control. (Except when someone really needs a whack and put in place, a dog bowl that is. 🐶🍚 then you will see him unleash his anger)

[@raffaellavitiello1762]

If the story is true.....

[@It-Is-What-It-Is.]

@@raffaellavitiello1762 right...🤔

[@abbatrouble]

@@raffaellavitiello1762 Well, harry is a proven liar and has never told the truth before.

[@Veronique428]

The art of control? You are talking about someone who has the infamous reputation to be unable to control his temper, incandescent rage and anger when he has the slightest frustration! The art control indeed!

[@a24-45]

After hearing this story, I though to myself, I KNEW it. I have always wanted to believe that Diana, as the daughter of divorced parents herself, and being someone who was deeply traumatised by that divorce -- that Diana would instinctively understand how extremely important it was not to badmouth her ex, or her ex's partner, to her children --- for the sake of their future mental health, future relationships and future happiness. But now......From this story, it seems all too likely that Diana openly shared her hatred of Charles and Camilla with her sons. Luckily, William appears to have been able to move beyond that dynamic, to establish a warm relationship with his father; despite being indoctrinated against him by Diana at an impressionable age. Unfortunately, Harry has not been able, it seems, to form an opinion of his father (and his father's wife) that is independent of what his embittered mother taught him to believe all those years ago. I guarantee that one of the first things Archie and Lillibet will do when they come of age, is try to contact the British branch of their family, whom they will have been cut off from all their lives. Sadly their grandparents Charles and Camilla will probably be deceased. Whether Harry and Meghan's children will ever get to hear the other side of the story - the version which is different from the one their parents will have told them about their evil, grasping, coldhearted Royal relatives -- remains to be seen.

[@ladymary22]

It has been said William wanted to make Diana happy. I am not surprised by the joke about Camila Let's face it she was one source of Diana's misery William knew that. I think he didn't think of Queen Elizabeth as the Queen at that point, she was Granny.

[@thevintageread]

Yes the Granny story was cute x

[@wf4758]

Camilla was not the source of Dianas misery. She wasnt involved with Charles at all in the first 5 years of his marriage during which time he was desperately trying to understand his wifes Borderline Personality Disorder. He did not re- commence his affair with Camilla until he had found out about Dianas adultery with her married body guard. Diana herself admitted to being the first to cheat. She used the Camilla narrative to cover her tracks. She would have given Ms Markle a run for her money!!

[@rinasurana3057]

I try everyday to look up whatever you have to say and feel great to connect and disappointed when there’s nothing. You are so balanced, insightful and wise in your reviews and ever so sweet. ❤

[@countrygirl7619]

William wanted to protect his mother and make her laugh.

[@thevintageread]

Yes that was my take too!

[@allthethingsyouwillsee1081]

Shauna as always a great job of analysis. You make everyone down to earth and small conversations over time reveal people’s character

[@alanbettesworth2785]

Great video. I think you are right. Diana was aware of how indiscreet children can be. Another example of her manipulation.

[@Debs1233]

I wonder if William repeated what Diana had said to him. In a joking way of course.

[@jojj1258]

Diana always had an agenda where the press was concerned

[@mlouise1828]

It shows how selfish Diana was, dragging his children to their marital problems. You don't say bad things in front of your children. She always confide to Prince William, crying to him, him giving her tissue paper.😔

[@margaretsmist7140]

I’ve never bought into the St. Diana myth. This snip says alot. Thank god William turned out the way he did. He has the best of both of his parents and married a woman that brings out those traits in him.

[@jm162]

From this anecdote, it gives a great deal of credence to the stories of how Diana came from a very poor background as in how to divorce in a civilised manner...she then behaved poorly with William - thank goodness Charles and Camilla appear to have not taken this negatively plus William has Catherine's far more normal and well behaved family.

[@edronc2007]

I agree with your assessment that the young William was eager to please his mother. Diana adored William, the future king, and neglected little Harry, the (so I think) cuckoo child. Everybody even remotely close to the Royals knew that. Of course it never went public, firstly because the Royal Family would do everything to protect the reputation of the mother of the future king (and would have probably gone as far as to build a smokescreen around the Hewitt affair and Harry's conception), and secondly because such noises would have been drowned in the Diana hype at that time. Watch photos of him as a young child, watch their mother's body language when she was with her sons. Case in point here is the famous picture of the three of them in the water slide at a theme park. Diana laughing maniacally to show the world "how much fun" they were having, William mirroring that laughter, looking painfully forced, and little Harry obviously not knowing why he was there.

[@vasundajay]

It does seem like Diana confided in little William, and he knew that if he were to say certain things about certain people then he could make her laugh, and perhaps keep her attention for longer? I mean, it is the childish idea that one would be liked if they agreed with the prevalent ideas and thoughts of the people one would like to befriend. I don’t know if little William felt he needed to keep that up to remain in the good standing with his mother, or if it was just regular banter between two ‘old’ chums. It does imply that Diana had clearly drawn lines that she could not keep even from her young son.

[@oniebaloney]

never clicked so fast, nearly broke my leg running here 🤣

[@thevintageread]

Hope you’re insured! 😂💕

[@kimberleygirl7533]

I’m thinking Harry’s state of mind has a lot to do with how Diana behaved. All of his shenanigans is bringing out the less savoury side of Saint Diana.

[@jackidosen1791]

🦜🇦🇺.Hi Shauna 📚.Enjoyed your review, Diana used press for her own needs,.using William and Harry to cover up her own insecurities .Have a good one 👍 👌 💞.

[@UrdVerdande-dt3ey]

I think Di thought herself wiser than she was, both when it came to handling the media and definitely when it came to being a parent.

[@thevintageread]

Probably like most of us! 😊💗

[@starrycrown]

Diana’s father used his children in a shockingly cruel way to hurt his wife, whom he was known to abuse (extensive sources on those claims can be found). Diana didn’t handle everything perfectly, but she rose above her own childhood. It all could have been worse. Aren’t unhappy marriages such troublesome things? 💔

[@wf4758]

Sadly, she didnt rise above it. Rather she bought the baggage with her. Charles had no chance

[@spiritcreek9813]

Only the two older sisters, Sarah and Jane have stable marriages (as far as we know). Charles, Earl Spencer is on #3. He seems to be alienated from his older children.

[@abbatrouble]

Diana used her children, Charles, Camilla, Andrew Morton and the newspapers to try and make Charles look like a bad father and husband!

[@officialmkamzeemwatela]

Like you said, it’s the little snippets… everything I have ever read of Diana has always made me see her as an extremely manipulative person who played victim excellently. She was also addicted to the spotlight and something less spoken of is how similar she was to Meghan in thinking she should be there Centre of attention not the future King. That was awkward even when she was alive and I recall most people found it distasteful. That seems to have been sanitised in the years since her death

[@dianad1968]

She has been canonized since her death.

[@phoenixrises5169]

Camilla and MeGain are EXACTLY the same.

[@karmac2023]

Would love to hear more about what happens in the book!

[@leemackie8434]

😂😂👍👏💗 I think Diana is trying to teach a young Prince what they will print because if it had been printed it would have told him who he can trust.

[@purpurina5663]

And Piers saw right through it and that's why he didn't print anything. He knew it wasn't time yet.

[@leemackie8434]

@@purpurina5663 👍 yes

[@thevintageread]

Yes my first thought was valuable experience and then I wasn’t sure…

[@leemackie8434]

@@thevintageread yes 👍 the more I think about it I have so many questions and thoughts about the underlying issues in showing this and allowing a child to be so outspoken about family issues in front of a person involved in the media. How could she have put him in this position and not explained that you don’t say anything about family issues/matters in front of anyone outside the family.

[@singtweetypie]

@@leemackie8434 My parents would have been appalled if I had made comments like this in front of ANY guest, never mind a reporter. I might expect silly comments like this from an 8 or even 10 year old - but not a 13.5 year old. Did William feel that it was his role to make his mother laugh? Or was Diana playing games and all of it was a set up? In any event, that she allowed William to drink in front of Piers was so wrong but then I don't think Diana had much common sense at times.

[@prof.cecilycogsworth3204]

Thanks!

[@Octobergirl85]

I'm disappointed in Diana for using William to do her bidding, its never cool or cute to involve children in such things.

[@ajune583]

I think Diana let William in on too much of what was going on with her and his Father. He no doubt heard the arguments, saw the tears, so he tried to make her happy as any son would do. I think I read, years ago, Diana confided in William too...he was just too young to take on her problems!!

[@lexawoods500]

Voilà c'est ça le problème vous dites que vous l'avez lu il y a quelques années, mais vous ne l'avez jamais entendu de la bouche de la personne designer ça continue encore et encore les rumeurs c'est fou que personnes ne comprends bonne soirée cordialement 🙏

[@lexawoods500]

​@@ajune583bonsoir je vous ai envoyé un message mais sans rancune simplement pour faire comprendre que il ne faut pas écouter les rumeurs car ça peut mener très loin dans le mal.. Diana à peut être dit que elle est son père se disputer souvent sans pour autant mettre tout sur le dos de son fils William à compris tout seul la souffrance de sa mère et la écouter et aider tout simplement

[@thevintageread]

Yes it is hard to work out the intention isn’t it…

[@abbatrouble]

@@ajune583 William knew about her many affairs from his classmates who teased him and made him say that he was ashamed of her. Everyone in their circle knew about her men.

[@ValeriaPugliesiWashington]

William was showing off his loyalty to his mother: it's so common in children amidst a divorce. Children have a favorite parent too.

[@sundog3150]

William knew on some level how to deal with a narcissist and Dianna was one. He knew what subjects would make her laugh. He probably didn’t even really realize what he was doing but those of us that survived a narcissist learned quickly how to entertain, deflect, avoid, stay under the radar, if possible.

[@thevintageread]

Spot on!

[@cookiegirl2cookie197]

@@thevintageread Probably why he recognized early on his sister-in-law as being one.

[@4MAGA]

You are so right.

[@phoenixrises5169]

Diana was not the narcissist - Charles is.

[@Veronique428]

So you know she was a narcissistic person because you had some therapy sessions with her? It seems like you’re a well renowned therapist who happened to diagnose his patients without even met them once!

[@meritaranto3762]

Keep sharing your insights! Love your point of view

[@BumbleBee666-u5t]

You can read anything into whatever you want it to be, remember that.

[@kymdagnall8344]

Diane did lean on William an awful lot. Hence why he knew his mother wasn't the Saint people had painted her. Harry wasn't so aware.

[@juliagetman]

Shauna you’re so good to us

[@thevintageread]

😂💕

[@phoenixrises5169]

Lol... this grifter?????

[@AnnetjiePocock]

I remember the article photo. The person who publish it was of bad taste.,🇿🇦 it was a lovely picture if the Queen as well where she was working in the garden. Nothing wrong with that. That is what made her human to the people. 😊 She was sitting and looked back to the photographer.

[@user-tt3jb2do8m]

Don't know if this is true, but it was said that Diana, use to confide in William alot, with regard to her relationships, and Charles. Introducing William and Harry, to people like the England rugby player, when she was in a relationship with him, James Hewitt, and Dodi, maybe others. I think that, on her part was bad parenting, he was like piggy in the middle, dealing with things, and conversations, that he shouldn't have had to. With regard to William getting away with, drinking a bit of wine then. The difference he matured, when he turned into an adult, from his teenage ways, he probably did alot worse we don't about, it's all part of growing up. The difference is Harry is a man now, but with the mindset of a teenager. Worse thing Diana was introducing Piers Morgan to William, so he'd give him an easy ride of it. Piers Morgan is his, and the royal family's biggest supporter, and the person he needed saving from was his own brother.

[@philipmilner9638]

Too many parents, get their children involed in their divorce - That's a no, no. It can scar children for life and mess up their own relations with their partners....

[@Cooksongrl]

Very interesting! Love little stuff like this too. Hard to say which one came in with that agenda Diana or William. He's very smart but I do feel at that point he was trying to hold her together.

[@thevintageread]

I think so too!

[@francoisehugonet7068]

Of course William was disparaging Camilla, he had heard his mother cry for ages, because of Camilla ! He was just loyal to his mother. Besides, it took him years to later accept Camilla.

[@abbatrouble]

She did NOT cry because of Camilla. She even admitted later that Camilla was not the reason for the divorce. She cried because she was emotional, mentally unstable, was rejected by one man after another and probably used the crying to manipulate William into feeling sorry for her!

[@Fiftynine414]

It appears that Diana was not as good at parenting as we were all led to believe. It appears that her immaturity, insecurities, and neediness played a huge role in her parenting. I’m glad William has Kate and her family. Something tells me that they encourage and bring out the best in him.

[@PattyfmPhilly]

Hi Shauna ~ Thanks for this one. I’m not sure what to think about Diana, having William join them? I can’t see any upside. He was 15 when she died, so this was 18 months prior? One can only imagine the conversation taking place when William contributed to it. I’ve got to have a think on this😃 Now Doria!! What do you know about the…care facility? she bought for millions? The website is shady. Do you think, it’s just a way to mine data? Names, emails, phone numbers, to sell? What is up with it? That’s what I’d like to know about Doria.😃 Cheers, Patty fm Philly

[@leono7380]

Diana was no Angel.

[@KatherineSpinks-cu9io]

You are soooo funny! Thanks always for the content!

[@thevintageread]

Thanks for watching!

[@flossey100]

💖💖💖

[@thevintageread]

💗💗💗

[@kirri1312]

I feel for William, trying to impress his mother by disparaging Camilla. The divorce affected William much more than Harry as he was used to having to be Diana’s support. No child should be put in that position.

[@dianad1968]

I hate to think what emotional problems William would have endured if his mother had lived.

[@kirri1312]

@@dianad1968 I agree, Diana loved her boys very much but I can’t say I agree with her decisions or the way she behaved around them. Thank God he met Catherine!! She adores him and he knows he can rely on her love and loyalty forever!!❤️🇦🇺

[@phoenixrises5169]

@@dianad1968 YOUR emotional problems are obvious to everyone

[@dianad1968]

@@phoenixrises5169 I have no idea what you're babbling about, as your comment makes zero sense.

[@JenMaram63]

Kids being kids hey, you can always rely on them to bring something up to make things a little awkward or embarrassing. I found the young William info to be very cute. I do however wonder though if it was completely innocent, and just a child that was dragged to what would have been a boring lunch for him, trying to get his Mothers' attention. I know my kids would be the first to point out and laugh about their grandmothers appearance in a portrait. At 13, any kid would find the horses' head story hilarious, but probably may not understand the insult intended by the article. How torn those two boys must have been. So glad that William seems to have found his lifetime soulmate in Catherine.

[@user-mf3ky1qs3h]

Well that newspaper article sure was a interesting read I must say, as for young William I thin he was just trying to please his mum, thinking he may have been a bit cheeky in his younger years.

[@thevintageread]

It was from Piers Morgan’s book that he published in the early 2000s

[@susanarthur-itsmyname]

I find that hard to believe. I think some people write things in books that are true to juice up for sales.

[@graphiquejack]

my guess is that either this was somewhat staged so Diana could get some digs into the Queen and Camilla through her son, which is pretty immature and not what I'd call good parenting, or William felt so free to slam them in front of Diana because she was somewhat of a child herself and relied on William for emotional support. Either way, while I can understand the resentment and pettiness to a degree, I can't respect bringing your child into it all.

[@snappyspeak]

Juicy!

[@theguest4516]

😁😉😁 Take care and have fun!!! 😎😄😎

[@mandylyons1688]

I spot Anne Gelnconnor's book Lady In Waiting in the background. A great read and worth discussing 😉❤❤

[@thevintageread]

It is! Coming up 😉

[@optimisticgal]

If I knew my children would be photographed all their lives I would want to introduce them gradually to the 'beast' (lol). Ideal to start this way IMO. Well done Mum

[@leslieacoca5876]

very interesting and a bit pathetic of Diana to involve William in that way

[@lbc517]

William could have felt angry with Camilla, probably blamed her for what went on with his parents and Camilla.

[@annatjienilsen539]

I think that was the worst of it. Diana did a lot of damage to the RF but especially to Prince Charles. She had a histrionic disorder, I think. She really was childish in her personal relationships and never should have married Charles.

[@idgriffin56]

Such a pleasure. Great way to start the day 😃

[@thevintageread]

Thank you for being here! 💕😊

[@sheilathompson1026]

It sounds like Diana encouraged William in making remarks about people to amuse her normally, which is inappropriate. My mum always used to say don’t make personal remarks about people and that was 50s/60s and now we have our Great grandchildren living with us if they say anything hurtful about people I always say how would you feel if someone said that about you (even though sometimes it’s funny I never laugh and didn’t with my kids either. Schools (in the UK anyway) are much better at teaching children to consider others nowadays. I definitely don’t blame William he was a child and I don’t think Diana had the benefit of a loving home like I did either. I’m surprised at Piers Morgan putting it in his book though especially as they had an agreement. I liked him when he stood up for the truth after the Oprah lie fest but there’s been a few things lately that have made me realise why he was editor of the Sun (a newspaper I despise). I would rather be me than poor Princess Diana, even though she was rich and I was born in a two up and two down house with no bathroom or inside loo. I was surrounded by love and still am. Like everyone else I was so sad when she died. I could sort of understand the Camilla /horse “joke” on have I got news for you if it had happened after Diana died because Camilla was the but of so much hate and vilification but I hadn’t recalled it before she died. It’s funny how recollections may vary (as someone once said😂) It must have been Hell for Camilla and Charles for years. I’m glad he’s on the mend and they’re much more popular than anyone ever expected for all those years. Great review (as usual) Shauna. Sorry about the long comment

[@marianabryce7250]

Shauna I have heard that Diana used William as a sounding board, way beyond his years, while her marriage was breaking up. If this is true, William should be extremely strong mentally!!! One would’ve thought he’d be worse than William 😳

[@patriciavines1526]

It shows that even from a younf lad William tried hard to make his mother happy and laugh. Also, that nothing is ever really off the record, or we wouldn't be hearing about it now.

[@thevintageread]

Yes very true!

[@jayniekinser7029]

No, I wouldn’t sell a photograph book about a friend. But I’m not like these people. She wanted to maybe warn Harry; she was getting even and earned enough money to put towards an entire house.

[@lindakirk3739]

So I have read poor William had to take alot on his shoulders, when his mum needed to offload when she wasnt mentally stable. So maybe that is why he would feel comfortable talking like that in front of her. Quite possibly he had heard things from her .

[@hildahambone7277]

Yes I totally understand what motivated William as I did the same thing at his age for the same reason. It’s so easy to criticise Diana for her behaviour but really she too was young and very hurt and humiliated. At 75 I have more understanding now. Doesn’t matter what family it occurs in the outcome of adultery and marriage breakdowns causes mayhem. The manipulation games come to the fore. Which is probably why the Queen had alone time with William to guide him in his role and to give another outlook. Sad thing is that she too seemed to condone Charles’ behaviour by condoning her husbands behaviour. No moral compass in that household. I so hope we never hear of William hurting Katherine in that way.

[@abbatrouble]

You are forgetting that Diana admitted in an interview that she was the one who cheated FIRST - and often! There was NOTHING for the Queen to condone!

[@phoenixrises5169]

EXACTLY!!!! And Charles used his sycophants like Nicholas Soames , former MP AND Camilla to constantly belittle Diana in the press daily. She was publicly humiliated and had no support from the RF who seemed to think she should just accept his affair and shut up. Disgusting really... all these women coming out and lambasting Diana for her choices. I wonder how many of them would do things differently in the same situation and circumstances? Diana was fighting against a whole powerful institution with no support of her own.

[@dottieparker7274]

Oooooh, juicy! 😂

[@thevintageread]

Is rather! 😂

[@It-Is-What-It-Is.]

I did read you between the lines Shauna. My take is William was his mother's confidante and Diana apparently unloaded a lot of her anger and resentment of the situation on him without realizing those things remain in a child's head. Many bad marriages are like that. If you are close to one side, everything the other side does is bad and a mockery. But William was also just a young boy and had not learned to filter his comments, especially in front of those he thought his mother trusted enough to talk to. If his mom didn't die, William as an adult probably would either resent both parents' behavior or be mature enough to understand and respect both sides.

[@thevintageread]

Interesting comment! Thanks 😊

[@abbatrouble]

As a teenager William said he was ashamed of his mother but never said this about Charles.

[@deebullock9284]

Even good decent people can keep quiet about their abusive parent(s), whether they're narcissistic, mental/emotional/verbal abusers, physical abusers, etc...my mother is a insecure selfish narcissist who has bullied me all my life, I'm 61 years young, and I kept it all in...you learn really early to sidestep their abuse and try keeping them happy so maybe, maybe they won't bully you that day....

[@thevintageread]

💕💔 You deserved better, big heartfelt hugs x

[@singtweetypie]

I'm so so sorry that you have had to deal with that abuse all of your life. How painful and debilitating that must be for you. You have my sincere sympathy that you missed out on having a loving mother. I do hope that you had a supportive father. Have you read Lady Colin Campbell's autobiography 'Daughter of Narcissus: A Family's Struggle to Survive Their Mother's Narcissistic Personality Disorder'?. (It's a profile of her mother) I have not read it, but understand it is a wonderful book. It might be helpful for you. Take care.

[@deebullock9284]

@@thevintageread thank you Shauna❤️

[@deebullock9284]

@@singtweetypie thank you❤️ I haven't read Lady C's whole book, but I have listened to her talk about all of it...and yes I had a wonderful amazing loving Dad for 11 years, which was a full whole lifetime for me, because of how he loved me and all he taught me!!! He showed me who God is and why I love Him as my God!!! Dads death was tragic and miss him everyday, but I go on because of how much I loved him, and always will❤️❤️❤️

[@singtweetypie]

@@deebullock9284 I am so happy to hear that you had such a wonderful father. I do so wish you had him much longer, but you count the blessings you have. You will see him again one day.❤

[@SydneyClearCognitive]

Hi Shauna ....admire your contents and opinion... Also love you apprearance on your video...but did you only wear one earring when you made "if Prince Harry is just Harry" lol. for this vid - I blame Diana's bad decision to involve William in her marriage being on the rock..I did that too... and I am regretting that since then,

[@thevintageread]

Maybe 🤣 (It probably fell off)

[@gremlin5622]

I think it's ok to say Diana spoiled her kids. I've seen snippets of old reels of both kids misbehaving and NO ONE intervening to correct them. Perhaps it was done on occasion but I have a sense Diana would not have taken kindly to it. It's important to accept William as a person with his own flaws otherwise if the public elevates him too high soon enough they'll want to tear him down. That's how it goes. Same goes for Catherine. People are not flawless or one-sided and that's ok (as long as it's not cruelty or awful behaviour being covered up).

[@thevintageread]

Yes they are all human! I think William has turned out beautifully! You are right that putting people on a pedestal can make others want to knock them off! 😂

[@phoenixrises5169]

Yes, they will place Catherine and William on a pedastal now because they're ripping into Hazbeen and MeGain (I am no fan of theirs) BUT as soon as they are able to, they will start devaluing William and Catherine too. People love to do that - as is evidenced in the recently popular past time of shredding Diana to bits, promoted by this vile grifting channel. All the while ignoring Charles and Camilla's many flaws because the Palace PR is protecting them and rewriting history for them.

[@LynneHancox]

Diana was very canny, she knew how to play games, she had a dark side, meghan has all of dianas bad traits and none of her good ones. When Harry says meghans like diana he sees the same personality that the adoring public didn't get to see of his mother.

[@janscott7565]

Boys can be cocky little roosters at that age and blurt things out without thinking. They make you feel embarrassed and later they feel foolish and regretful for speaking out of turn. As Diana apparently treated William as her confidant, he may have felt the need to champion her if she had been showing him those news items and laughed and joked with him about it a little earlier. I can see why Diana wanted to be present at William's first formal meeting with a very influential man with a deal of power over William's future popularity and reputation. William probably learned a valuable lesson in discretion.

[@thevintageread]

I agree!

[@loftyskies3956]

Harry just like Diana has the mind of a child and has never grown up

[@wf4758]

Great pickup.Sadly, Diana was a very disturbed and unstable person who not only suffered a serious eating disorder( and the terrible mood swings that accompanied that) but also very strong signs of Borderline Personality Disorder. She was known to involve her children in all her extremes of mood, particularly leaning on William as her emotional crutch. Harry was in the room when she told her 'speech therapist" about her sex life with Charles!!! She would have known EXACTLY what she was doing having William join the lunch, and she openly slated Camilla and their father in front of them all the time. Not a great way to raise healthy children. Yes she loved her children, but her 'mothering skills' had as much to do with using them for media manipulation and punishing Charles as anything else. Id love you to review Lady C's first book on Diana...before she died and became deified

[@dianad1968]

I think Harry and his wife suffer from BPD, and I worry for their children.

[@olderwiser64]

Diana always had an agenda. So many people are still under the impression that she was a saint, or at least this good, down-to-earth, always ready to have a laugh woman when away from her role. Especially here in the US. And she could be those things sometimes. But she was a deeply disturbed woman. Deeply troubled. I truly believe she had what’s commonly referred to as borderline personality disorder. The details are out there. And those people are never fun to live with. As a mom, I’ve found so many of the things Diana did with and to her boys so awful. Especially William. Suffice it to say, Charles is not perfect, no one is. But there is a reason his marriage to Diana did not make it, and it had nothing to do with Camilla Parker-Bowles. Not a thing.

[@phoenixrises5169]

Charles is a very damaged man himself. The Queen was an awful mother and raised 4 very entitled and dysfunctional children... ESPECIALLY Charles who is a narcissistic, selfish, entitled, spoilt, petulant man-child himself.

[@Happinc]

Making an effort to depict this luncheon anecdote in a sordid sort of way is surely a huge stretch! Would 13 year old William have really been told to make this anti Camilla comment? Highly doubtful! However it is totally normal for the children of divorced parents to struggle bonding with their parent’s new love interests so bearing that human truth in mind I don’t think we can say that he was cooperating with some crazy agenda of Diana’s…his jokes as described were just totally normal in my opinion, it doesn’t seem staged at all for Piers Morgan’s benefit! Just a typical 13 year old having a laugh at the expense of Granny and then at the expense of his Dads girlfriend… sounds pretty innocent 😇 given piers Morgan’s ability to sniff out a story I think this amounts to very little!

[@abbatrouble]

it is exactly the kind of thing the manipulative and dumb thing Diana would and did do!

[@thevintageread]

I didn’t say that at all. I raised the discussion point: Did William know what to say to make his mum happy and laugh? Much more subtle…honestly I think sometimes people take the very worst take on interesting points of discussion. I also didn’t say Diana had an agenda I said it made me wonder a little AFTER presenting an entirely positive explanation about her protecting William. Nothing I said was extreme or “SORDID”!

[@891Henry]

William loves his mum of course though he doesn't speak much about her, but Harry has deified Diana and seems to need to find her in Meghan. What is going on there? Can the difference in their ages at the time the boys lost their mum account for the extreme differences? Was Harry like this about his mum before Meghan?

[@DutchJoan]

Really!! There's absolutely no difference in the royal court between now and medieval times 😂. We've got laws that protect life somewhat better than back then, but really!! The intrigues, the power plays, the scheming. And it's called nobility, but dear Lord, there's more civility and good nature in a peasant's home.

[@thevintageread]

Maybe! 😂

[@maryl8753]

So Piers Morgan was a TOTAL STRANGER to William, yet at 13 he still made these comments about his gran. I would NEVER have done that at that age in front of a stranger and my mum would have killed me on the spot!. Is this all part of the royal sense of we can say whatever we want? I was a little surprised - just got to say. Seems he hadnt learned any filters at that age although obviously now he's different but makes me really question his upbringing and home life at that time..

[@cookiegirl2cookie197]

Sorry, didn't get it , I think you're reading too much into it.

[@thevintageread]

Fair enough 😊

[@sicsicdeborah6866]

It was a real cover of Camilla and a horse !

[@thevintageread]

Gosh Camilla put up with a lot didn’t she!

[@abbatrouble]

Poor Camilla and Charles ( as well as her children) were victims of Diana's manipulative and evil lies!

[@marysasser1120]

Prince William just trying to please his mom. Also, sad at 13 he didnt realize thathe was tooo young to drink alcohol. The younger a person starts to drink the more potential to be an alcoholic. I'm sure she was a fun mom that used her children fir her gain.

[@DarkSkies72]

Well he wasn’t wrong about the comparison. 🐴

[@thevintageread]

Ouch! 😂

[@barbraluce5706]

That is a bit rude. Nobody has ever said that Camilla was the beauty Diana was but she has never been homely

[@thevintageread]

Yes it was rude but it was just meant to be shocking humour I’m sure! X

[@phoenixrises5169]

@@barbraluce5706 Horsey, don't you mean????