Should THIS have been the GRAND FINALS? Clem vs Reynor | Esports World Cup (Bo5 TvZ) - StarCraft 2

Subscribe to PiG Casts! 🐷 Reynor (Zerg) faced off against Clem (Terran) in Group B of the $1,000,000 Esports World Cup in this Best of 5 ZvT Pro StarCraft 2 Series
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[@snealbli]

🛡Spoiler shield! 🛡

[@snealbli]

Amazing cast, PiG! 💯 Game 5 was a masterclass in Zerg, Terran, and casting!

[@alexandregamb]

Don't know about balance but Clem is something to watch playing.. attacking 3 front at the same time is a show

[@marquinocompaniados5099]

Surely, this is better than Serral vs Clem.

[@austinnutter3367]

I choose to believe the thing about the keyboard techniques is correct. Also I choose to believe that Reynor's keyboard is smeared with snack residue

[@aaronalquiza9680]

Many of us already know who wins but it's still worth watching PiG cast it

[@sparkyk24]

I haven’t watch the match and I know who wins lol

[@madeinresitasometimeago3970]

These two again... Love seeing them play.

[@yunfanfan9452]

It seems that 80% of the zerg players just whine nonstop. They really should spend their time improving their skills. Very sad.

[@aaronalquiza9680]

1:16:19 lol that's fucked up

[@ragnarragnarok-k4e]

zergs are the bullies. clem is the cool kid standing up to them

[@brianz5922]

hmmm first 4 minutes of every game is boring

[@hia5235]

All watching Clem does is remind me that Scans and mules are OP 45 Health on SCV Marines are the strongest starting unit by 10x

[@BukovTervicz]

Hey look, another video of the race that got nerfed non stop for 5 years vs the race whose endgame unit counters every other endgame unit

[@clement.234]

@@BukovTervicz So play it, and be a grandmaster. You can be rich with this talent !

[@snealbli]

True, Terran did get nerfed a lot, mad how Clem still made it work in spite of all that.

[@nickcole6682]

To be fair, this comment is undeniably true. Zerg has been nerfed in every patch since 2019. Ghosts counter every single Zerg unit except lings and banes, and are strong against them too after sniping the overseers with a couple of clicks. I think we all know that Terran will be winning many tournaments until there is a balance adjustment. Time will tell.

[@clement.234]

@@nickcole6682 So why is Serral winning almost everything, even against maru, or byun ? Why did reynor kick clem's ass on the world team tournament ?

[@snealbli]

@@clement.234 STOP THINKING ABOUT THINGS FOR MORE THAN 1 SECOND! WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE ANGRY

[@nickcole6682]

Terran: good race.

[@davorsafranko8657]

Was fun to watch

[@Dadbod007]

What a barn burner

[@aaronalquiza9680]

Fastest Players

[@mattevans8090]

First

[@jordanscholes9571]

Thanks for uploading, Pig. Top notch casting, as always.

[@lucasmilik7626]

God please fix Terran. Walks directly into 3 bane bombs, gets whole army fungled, drops 3 full medivacs on top of a spore and 3 queens, wins the fight. It's disgustingly broken.

[@CamFamX2]

Crybaby when only one Terran can beat the top Zerg players

[@maximebaroz]

You forgot the upgrades..

[@marquinocompaniados5099]

@@CamFamX2 yeah literally only one. 🤣

[@aaronalquiza9680]

bane bombs rend clem's army a few times (losing 5-10 marines at once) but if one is macroing, rally can replace that in 5 seconds. fungal'd sure, but it's slow damage, where's the rest of the army to finish off fungal'd army? clem's at 3-3 upgrades. 3 full medivacs all got damaged, reynor didn't focus spore+queen shots properly. oh, and 97 fucking drones bro. maxpax always shuts down clem's medivacs by focusing his stalkers on medivacs before the marines. don't forget SHIN (Ragnarok) 2-0 Clem AFTER clem won EWC. do you even listen to the casts when you watch this or are you just listening to your own voice in your head? just accept that clem is better, and reynor was too cocky not practicing as much as clem.

[@hia5235]

Way too good

[@popeyegaming1342]

some zerg propaganda here from pig -.- ill take libs over nidus everyday of the week

[@rockandrolljew89]

Is Reynor allergic to dropping a spire? Clem's style is so centered around medivac-based multi-prong and hot pick ups/healing to minimize casualties, and we saw him struggle in the game where the medivac count was too low. It seems like a handful of corrupters to chase down the medivacs would be very effective, but Reynor doesn't even drop spire when he's maxed, building bank, and Clem has started building liberators... no spire early is one thing, but I just don't understand the thinking in late game

[@snealbli]

With all due respect that is like asking "Why didn't you just headbutt him?" to someone who was in a chokehold from behind trying to not black out. Trust me, given even 15 seconds of breathing room Reynor would have transitioned to late-game tech. But Reynor built exactly TWO Tier-3 (Hive-tech) units in the 17-minute game: 2 infestors at the very end (when it was too late to make any difference). He was doing Hydra-Ling-Bane with no ranged upgrades because he didn't have any other choice. At what point Reynor have the ~1000 minerals AND gas to pursue a new, zero-upgrade tech path? He couldn't even make Lurkers. He couldn't make Ultras or Vipers; in any event, Vipers would have been much better to shut down drops and Reynor still couldn't make those. PiG said it accurately: Reynor built too many drones, and put too many eggs in the burrowed Baneling basket. Clem is just obscenely good at TvZ, dismantling "set piece" Zergs like Serral and Reynor. He gets in their face and never lets them out of the chokehold.

[@rockandrolljew89]

​@@snealbli I agree Clem is insanely good, but disagree that reynor did not have leeway to drop a spire. That is definitely true at times, but it clearly wasn't in game 4 for example. If anything, it seemed he was trying to force hydra-ling-bane past when it was effective to avoid late game rather than transition. Keeping the medivac count low limits Clem's mobility and healing (corrupters also tank widow mines, a Clem staple). Maybe spire is bad or Reynor hasn't practiced it, but waiting too long on better anti-air (be it corrupters, infestor/hydra, or vipers) is clearly costing him, as the inability of queens and hydras to chase drops limits their effectiveness.

[@skyryudo311]

​@@rockandrolljew89 Reynor also beat Clem 2 or three time with mass muta, but it seems to be very dangerous and tiring games... as it takes a long time to dismantle Clem and also making an error and losing all your muta in a split second. But it could be also stubbornness, ego, or just simply like mentioned earlier, being overwhelmed.

[@snealbli]

​@@rockandrolljew89 My answer was specific to game 5, so it may have made more sense in the previous games. Personally, I believe that because SC2 has gotten so fast-paced in LotV, that it has become easier just to go Vipers. Hive around 10 minutes is common now. And unlike sky zerg, Vipers never become obsolete or stop paying dividends, unlike air tech which will eventually require upgrades to remain useful supply. And Vipers are never wasted supply, unlike Corruptors during a frontal push.

[@nickcole6682]

Zerg has no chance after the mid-game. If Zerg has the time and money for corruptors, then Terran has the time and money for Ghosts. A player as good as Clem will never lose a TvZ in this patch with Ghosts. A player as good as Reynor will never win a ZvT vs a Clem with late-game Ghosts.

[@Konranjyoutai]

Balance is so bad you can almost tell who is going to win before even watching the games.

[@yunfanfan9452]

If your SC2 skill is anywhere close to your whining, you'd easily beat Clem already.

[@clement.234]

I think you are in bronze league 😂

[@rockandrolljew89]

Or balance is fine and Clem just has the best micro and multi-tasking of any player in the game right now

[@snealbli]

Never change, balance whiners 😂 someone doesn't remember when the finals were always ZvZ for like 2 years in a row, and one of those two was Reynor like, two-thirds of the time

[@benjaminjoeBF3]

only terran players actually watch this mess of a game

[@benjaminjoeBF3]

Reynor plays like an artist, defending perfectly 2000 apm, splits, double splits, he faze his units to other dimensions but then.....2 WIDOW MINES GG

[@snealbli]

maybe try not building 100 drones next time when you have yet to secure a fifth? xD

[@yawgmoth6568]

Yeah and clem doesn't do 18231238 apm, triple splits, 3 front attacks but then.... 2 BURROWED BANELINGS but not gg because that stuff isn't game ending?