Pikaboo Reacts to Blizzcon 2018 + Why Addons Shouldn't Be in Competitive WoW

[@iPanicyt]

I wish pika would become a caster for AWC. Nobody can narrate a game real-time as smooth as pika

[@Endolas1]

Maybe when he retires from playing.

[@iPanicyt]

maybe@@Endolas1

[@Karmolicious]

I remember watching the Ny'alotha WF race and you got to see various PoVs from players in Limit and everyones UI looked super advanced and then it would switch to Trill and it looked like the guy had only installed like, DBM and AngryAssigments like 5 minutes before the raid started lol

[@HuffleScrumblo]

Karkalicious?

[@Fr33mx]

yeah cuz Trill is used to no Addons since he's in the AWC all the time.

[@michaelbeleut6480]

Yeah. I used to have Elvui, 20 different UI profiles. Then tried to PvP using those and it was a big no from me. Deleted those all and went back to default. Way better for all types of content.

[@janmarecek8473]

@@michaelbeleut6480 hard agree, the main reason being that the way all UI addons display debuffs is terrible

[@Milanp95]

@@janmarecek8473 what ? you can customise it however u want it to display.. For PvE especially addons are a quality of life improvement ElvUI, Plater, MDT, BigWigs, OmniCD, WA’s ..

[@SyuSept]

The amount of respect given to whaazz is huge. I think he truly admires him :)

[@anonymoose2210]

I was so hungover- *slowly counts back age on fingers 4 years ago* NO I was TOTALLY SOBER :D :D :D

[@jowest3867]

Haha yes, i laughed too.

[@user-dm84]

This is such great content man, absolutely love diving into the mind of a professional! Awesome insight, great storytelling. 10/10

[@masterbeernuts9344]

Brilliantly commentated man. I didn't plan on watching all this as 30 min vid... but stayed for the excitement. 10/10

[@jowest3867]

Bcon 2018 was when I started watching awc and following The Move. That run through lower bracket and pika beating Whazz was soo good, I watch this often but it’s great to see pikas take on it!

[@lesionsl2718]

at 17:00 i love that small moment how you iterate how both teams showed respect for each other

[@-dubu]

Pikaboo could talk about walking to the store and he would still be captivating

[@garneet]

this vid is great, honestly the addon shit would really make it interesting for pve, considering how huge they normally are..

[@Ngilneia05]

Yeah. Wanna see world's first guys struggling hard 🤣

[@nemesisVtuber]

funny enough. PvE is hard BECAUSE of the addons. Developers make shit harder - addons make it easier - developers need to make it even more harder

[@xBigMacc]

@@nemesisVtuber that makes literally 0 sense

[@Xemozazk]

@@xBigMacc It makes sense. Raids are much harder than they have ever been since the dev shave to take addons into consideration.

[@AlbelNoxful1]

@@Xemozazk Not really the case. Stuff gets harder because the community got overall better. Mechanics have to be challenging and new nowadays to excite people.

[@adamw3916]

"no i was totally fuckin sober" LMFAO ok bro

[@StrobeFireStudios]

"Im in Beijing, hes in Africa, and we're just trying to Pangaea in the middle or something" - GOD tier dialogue :D

[@igk916]

I’ve just recently found your channel and I’ve been binge watching random old PVP content cause your such a great storyteller these are so fun to watch.

[@SeemsLikeSomething]

Pika screaming “now!! Killlll goooo!!!” Is one of those legendary tourney moments of hype that will live on in WoW history forever. Thanks for all ya do Pika, you’ve done a lot for the WoW community and we love ya for it, forever fan here my guy! Cheers

[@Nizmopower]

Jason's story telling is so engaging and high energy, I love watching him do vids like this!

[@xChachio]

one of the most iconic series on all of competitive WoW. big grats to both teams. I do feel bad about the look of disappointment on Pika's face watching Cdew's team grab the trophy after the Grand Finals though .. can't wait to see you guys back on the main stage again soon.

[@DechCJC]

Honestly? If they didn’t have to tune the game around us having 5 million timers and trackers, it would probably be a lot more fun. I’d be down for significantly gutting addon functionality past anything cosmetic across the board.

[@brandonweaver5910]

100% agree with you regarding add-ons in competitive play.

[@Huanigan]

I thought that was the case in PvP, and you just had scripts to move Blizzard’s default UI around?

[@Ganjmed]

@@Huanigan No, they allowed some certain things.

[@nickjakubec6492]

The best part of that big play, when you disarm the hpal melee wings, is you just hear Ven screaming "ohhhhh SICK PLAY"

[@sosah4277]

As a new player I 100% agree with this! I’ve never played a game that allows so many basically apps to help you.

[@SusejFTW]

The passion bro god damn you're the GOAT

[@packerreglare8515]

It's like that in league which expands the skill cap to infinity, it really opens your eyes how much an addon like weakauras would shatter the game completely.

[@colinroberts2671]

I love these videos of you breaking down blizzcon game !!! great content

[@Anthro0]

Man, you cant deny, this man has a point. I feel some ppl just react to "jump" and "stand" or whatever bullshit their weakauras tell them to do. in fact, the players became the weakauras peons.

[@franzmarley]

Dude, extract this mindset onto life. Recognize what program is running you or if you're actually living without addons (habits) telling you what to do

[@Xohslol]

@@franzmarley what?

[@franzmarley]

@@Xohslol your habits are much the same as weakauras, programs having you run life on auto and reacting instead of acting and creating. We become the peons of our conditioned mind

[@Xohslol]

@@franzmarley lay off the alpha brain

[@franzmarley]

@@Xohslol ? I'd recommend Alan Watts if you want more knowledge

[@realdelayed8556]

100000% agree with the removal of addons. Everyone has become so boosted and reliant on them it’s ridiculous. The amount of people who can’t play without them is insane….

[@RAULisWICKEDleet]

yo when pika realizes how old he was during this time and his "lack of sleep" killed me.

[@charalamposkallimanis9609]

I haven't played WoW since Legion I think. Rogue was my main. Your videos are very heartful. The way you explaining the moments is like I am the one playing the Rogue and at the same time, getting lessons how to play Rogue better even knowing I won't touch WoW forever.

[@erikstein1348]

That earthen totem has got to be one of the most well timed/called saves from a healer ive ever seen. so good

[@soberphobicyhm7578]

This was so dope as shit and refreshing. Pika cracks me the fuck up talking about the behind the scenes 🤣. He said he was HELLA nervous 💀😶‍🌫️

[@hedduyou]

Can we get more breakdowns of your games like this?>>? This was so enjoyable

[@TheYeahsta]

Good stuff, reminds me of playing competitive CS 1.6 at LAN centers back in the day. Prolly felt great to hear "Pikaboo is the greatest rogue!" haha good for you dude, quite a memory im sure.

[@Celantus]

Been saying this since vanilla, addons just aren't needed but you are requiered to use them if you want to raid with a guild or do arena serious...

[@iTzTooBad]

26:28 anyone noticed Jelly gets novaed on his leap then he just feint death and mounts up xD

[@futbolaholic3]

More vids like this! Love the vod reviews and tournament insight!

[@lanceroygames]

Dude I'm so for having no addons in competitive wow.

[@keeblar209]

Loved it man. I was there at blizzcon 2018 and I remember walking out there sad because you guys didn’t win. But the whole time I was juiced more then a person on molly lol

[@duman173]

ok him counting down the years to figure out he was under 21 and changing the story is such a pika moment, it's so fucking funny, he has the best timings

[@toastedtimexxx4859]

It does suck how much skill they take away from the game. It’s a lot easier when something tells you what you should do 🥔

[@Mestman32]

I can't tell you how HYPED I was watching this live, absolutely brilliant man.

[@Twindad]

Dude the fact that Karl dispelled you RIGHT when chas got to you then you got the disarm right before he swung holyyyt

[@michaelcasas167]

I’m so glad I went to this Blizzcon, one of if not the best series of all time

[@grapesodaboy]

Strongly agree, although, they should make strong abilities and other impactful procs more telegraphed and clear in game first. Like it is very easy to see and hear The Hunt being pressed or Combustion being used, but so many other things that kill you in PVP are just small debuffs that get lost in the clutter of a million pets on your screen.

[@ianmitchell5940]

New rogue, how did you sap in combat or did he come out of combat because the blind?

[@davinciwow788]

That will never happened is like to go back in time when the first airplanes were made and didn't have any tools, compared to today airplanes with 1000 indicators (addons+weakauras) , just impossible

[@Indigoplays]

Totally agree. But on the flipside, everybody would go nuts getting killed by oneshot combos, because it would be much harder to tell.

[@Tomminked]

With add-ons now it's mostly about your gear. Some weak auras even do rotation for you...

[@daimonian]

man! great explanation on all what happend, great hype and video!

[@jxy001]

When did they put addons in competitive ?? damn

[@Max-cs1dn]

Addons are literally borderline cheat engines imagine playing a semi strategy game and there’s a program that tells you what to do to best optimize your move? Imagine play chess with shit like that that calculates all the permutations and moves. Disgusting. I played wow since 2004 never had more than 3 addons even back in the days when my guild went for first kills, I’d secretly turned them all off to rid of the guilt and unease from “cheating”. Yeah, I count 10 boss spells from heart while maintaining communication with the team. Server top 10 btw, not realm.

[@justsomeguy4422]

whats crazy about what he said in the beginning is if you watch pika play games after an opener if he doesnt kill someone, hes just casually walking around CCin here, LoS there, almost in slo-mo, he may even be getting wailed on, and hes just casually telling his teammate what he should be doing and still comes out and clutches a kill at like 10% HP or something. I know Pika is super cracked, but I know for sure without addons his gameplay wouldnt change that much just because of how natural it all is now in his reflexes, knowing timing when a trinket will be back up and etc. the game itself on the PvE side has enough tells for where you really do not need addons, the players just need thicker skin to bare a wipe or two before things connect.

[@HierophanticRose]

Banning addons on competitive would be a great tactic, as most of the "tips and tricks" trickle from the competitive side, often misapplied. So, without Addons on competitive (I would even say dont allow 3rd party overlays during structured PvP at all) parts, they would lose their appeal and "FOMO" "you need this" approach. This does a great thing in that it lets non-competitive add ons remain, and regulates the client side without needing direct coded regulation, which is easy to circumvent in any case.

[@johnnyll91]

The feels on offline events with different setups. Played at multiple cs 1.6 offline tournaments its so true

[@nickb479]

This video review was so good to watch! Keep it up pika!

[@sukohama1898]

I swear to god watching you doing these kinds of videos is fucking amazing, i could listen to you ramble about absolut nothing for hours man, biiiig love 🤣

[@hugslugs]

I asked for more arena breakdown, thats what I got and then some! Great video, more please! 👌

[@UndeadAaronGames]

I've been saying it for years. I'm glad someone that is so well known in the community has the balls to say it. What blizzard allows you to do in wow with 3rd party add ons, would be considered hacking or cheating in pretty much any other game.

[@garrett2111]

I'm 2300, just dream of being Glad... and you guys are playing at top notch level without any addons. Damn i'm bad. Absolutely love the content man.

[@smurfblue6498]

Of course, in any sport everyone must compete under the same conditions, even if they are more uncomfortable, all under the same rule and in fact, those who play without add-ons generally have more skill and vision of the game.

[@tommycoleman9077]

Just need to remove combat addons from the game in general. I think UI addons are rad but things that track boss mechanics and such, and agree with the pvp aspect too. Great content dude, big fan of the energy

[@HuffleScrumblo]

Nice video Xaryu, please make a video on how to get big muscle buff!

[@jeremypiper4309]

I remember playing top rank 2s as spriest rogue and I’d silence the warriors to stop shield wall. Pretty sick plays out there sometimes.

[@AdrianPothead]

For PvP it makes sense, for mythic raiding or WF raiding or freaking high m+ addons are mandatory.

[@TON-ws9og]

No, mandatory for shit players

[@ChairmanMeow1]

Our little Pika has grown so much!!

[@lonepostpone3929]

I dont care about wow pvp at all. But pikaboo is just a legend and always fun to watch. Crazy energy and storytelling. Born entertainer!

[@quadir6076]

dude i got so emotional watching this especially the last two games sheeesh

[@TheJahool]

was that when cdew and his team were using those exploits before the gate opened in arena?

[@MrJudgeh]

Jeallybeans is legit cold as ice. You gotta love the guy

[@niclasnorby]

I love your content. Amazing energy and personality. Puts a smile on my face

[@baggins1900]

I'd be 100% down for addons to be removed.

[@Slapwagons]

Thank you for breaking this shit down man. I've played wow off and on super casually for years and I've never made much sense of arenas. So many things happen so quickly it just isn't clear to me what's going on without a play by play breakdown. Let me just assure you, nothing about the plays you guys made seemed easy or obvious, I couldn't do that shit in a million years.

[@atorystory1445]

When I first started playing WoW you didn't even know what your enemy was casting. For example, you would just see a mage's hands light up but had no idea what was coming at you.

[@robertwarner3861]

Your timing and amusing allusions are a pleasure; But we only hide our mistakes from those who don't see them; alternative is good look.

[@brysonlakeman1174]

Ngl I'm a huge fan of you and whaaz as a rogue main, I remember watching this and remember jumping out of my chair when you disarmed Chas on his melee wings Big Brain play

[@spencerstorey1240]

I remember watching leaderboards in 2012 ish and pikaboo was above wreckful and i was like "who the hell is this pikaboo thinking he is the best" now he has proved he is the best rogue in the game

[@arielgomez7131]

Dudeeeee this has me so HYPED!!!

[@fiveofknives]

your passion is palpable dude this is epic!

[@FlyingJustToFall]

Great video - The amount of hype he can make while just sitting and telling is crazy

[@Mejoche]

the video editors and music, pretty basic story telling

[@hotdiggityayo]

While I'd agree the people that could track it all especially in pvp are a smaller and smaller group. It basically creates a group who gave 5 times more experience winning literly based off past knowledge vs those who haven't played as long but are better mechanically

[@frankpollo]

that was amazing even when you don't win the final for me that was the most exited moment ever in wow

[@davidk4190]

did you win the big dance ?

[@povved161]

Totally agree on the addon opinion of yours! All those addons should be deleted not only from mdi/awc/wfr, but also for every player and ALWAYS. Like dude. Im playing 20s+ without using ANY addons besides DBM, Details and some UI adjustments like Dominos/ SexyMap, but never would use MDT or shit like that.

[@KrillixKai]

Healers are pretty rare right now. Removing HealBot and VooDoo bars would completely kill what healers remain. Have you ever played a healer without addons in WoW??

[@Cook-by-the-book]

Argh! The only add-ons I have are for moving my toolbars around or to add more toolbars so I can click on my potions and toys without opening my bag. But imagine these people trying to run mythic raid or rpvp without any addons. Maybe that’s why the immersion on the game feels less natural, but more like you are a machine operating a system. I don’t find that fun at all.

[@travissebastian1437]

just now watching this video but god damn man you had me rolling! "i was so fucking hung over at blizzcon" *counts fingers* nahhhh i was just tired hahahahaha

[@l337g0g0]

I stopped using add-ons in classic cause I wanted the back in the day experience, after experiencing it, never going back.

[@TheVpalladino]

i hear so much of byron in this mans voice

[@ctrlrun3149]

what odes disarming melee healer did? anyone knows

[@leomastoras]

@Pikabooirl bro what about macros then ? Cause I haven't played wow for 10 years but I'm pretty sure you can actually copy pasta most addons into existence through abusing the macro system. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the lua code is interconnected. I believe it's like saying get rid of chrome extensions but you can still paste any JavaScript you want in the console

[@punker2534]

I'm a PVEer but I watch PVP for the chaos.. I agree the addons makes it more like PVE..

[@Straightorama]

So cool to hear this background!

[@Handcannon77]

Honestly I think allowing the tracking of DRs, and offensive CDs is fine in competitive play, but when you have Weak Aura's tracking every single thing the other team is doing its a bit much. Dont get me wrong I think weak auras are great and the overall play on ladder has become much more competitive due to addons, and its much more difficult now but when it comes to competitive play at the highest level I feel like allowing all addons just creates a damp fest(regardless of how damage/healing is tuned) most of the time because you already have these guys who are 15x R1 players who have insane game sense and ingame IQ as is, when you let them track every single little thing they end up playing/trading CDs perfectly which leads to damp games.

[@venatise]

only addons should be just UI customization like ELVUI, or quality of life stuff imo

[@scottishlifetm1906]

How can I watch you live ?

[@ODStat]

I 100% agree i think addons shouldn’t be a thing at all in tournament play but at the same time i also personally believe people who change their Ui and mess with their actions bars should be able to use that that at the very least. Not that i’m a fan i personally enjoy watching default ui, which is why i really love watching your stream or youtube. But it would ruin high rated players who rely on ui changing addons

[@CityOfRandomness1]

As an addon user, if they took away my most important addons: party frames or the weakauras that simply show my main rotational buttons. They would have to do a massive amount of work to the base game to make it relatively close to the QoL for me to continue playing. Highlighted frontal cones in distinct borders for PvE attacks. Longer channels to get out of it. Alerts for if a hazardous death spell is targeting you. etc. Basically dumbing down the game to be able to remove dbm and that's fine. The issue is blizzard is way way way too lazy to do that much work, so removing addons that solve majority of their ui problems will never go away. Base game ui is dogshit and beyond outdated. Wow is almost 20 years old and they've only tried to rework the ui in a major way once. And when they did basically all the added were unified bags and movable frames. Bare minimum effort. If they're going to remove addons I don't want to play a game that has a 20 year old dogshit ui just so the trash players are even more trash and the players with more than 4 braincells look competent.

[@nervio2701]

Man if they do that they would be so dope, AWC and MDI/TGP with no addons, that'd be awsome

[@itstoxicqt]

Lmao "wait 2018... I was totally just lack of sleep" nice save 😂

[@fleau7041]

21:55 your friends was on dr sheep at this moment xD

[@thomasgrim9309]

Bro there’s addons in wotlk people are using for auto kicks. So now you can’t fake cast . If you click your kick and they fake casted it won’t kick. It’ll only kick if it’s guaranteed . People are saying that’s bullshit etc, no it’s happening . And addons power keeps going up and up. When I’m doing 3s now I can easily see a kick timer for my dks mind freeze and can hoj after . Which is currently our main way of killing . Back in wotlk when I was a kid . We had too tell each other “I kicked” and you had too gauge how long till you should hoj too avoid a gap . Now I don’t even need too think I have it down too the last half second.

[@jamesphilip1534]

When he said pika was the best rogue in the world - GOOSEBUMPS