Pike made Thordak vulnerable || The Legend of Vox Machina S03E09

[@sneakykidd6848]

Hot take, Gods are actually useless. Have faith in yourself above all else. Gods are callous, unfair do not truly understand your struggles.

[@alvisceratortheultimate1660]

Something this inspiring should be pinned.

[@Meshifuari]

@@sneakykidd6848 I have typed a response but it somehow got deleted? Your take is a bad one, in my opinion. Let me explain why... You are correct with the fact that there are fantasy worlds where gods are that... Cruel, arrogant and unfair beings that care only about their own business. However there are also fantasy universes where good gods exist. Where they do care about mortals, where they do everything in their power to help them. This is one of such worlds. In original campaign Pike never abaddoned Everlight and Everlight helped with anything she could have as long as she could have. I am not a big fan of this change and there are people who also dislike it. The universes where all gods are simply evil and unworthy of worship, are rather bland and unoriginal. The universes where they are both good and bad, and are actually doing everything in their power to help mortals are in my opinion far more interesting because it forces the writers to flesh out both the gods and paladins in interesting manner... Look at Torm sacrificing himself in Forgotten Realms or Bahamut dying (he was later brought back) to save his friends. It makes you question whenever good gods should act in a more cruel and strict way to achieve their goals. The idea that all gods are evil and the only road for a good paladins and clerics is to leave them... Is rather boring as it was done Plenty of Times. Way more than the gods being actually good or mixed.

[@shazaz1059]

@@Meshifuari I am a fan of the change, I think it's an interesting plot point to have Pike's faith in the Everlight be brought into question and having it to where it can't always help her when she needs it. I think it's a fine balance of giving Pike some self confidence instead of consistently hoping the Everlight will help I wouldn't like it if they framed the Everlight as a bad god though, I prefer them as good just not always able to help in every situation

[@karmad1429]

I think the subject is wrong. You can't blame god that didn't solve your problem because that's not the god promised. Most religions are promising after death. It's your fault that blaming god about your life and didn't understand properly. There's no blame to go on at all from first place.

[@remembernovember9059]

Hey Xerxes. Didn't realize you had a youtube account.

[@thelastword1414]

When Pike threw away her pendant, I actually screamed: "Oh my god, what are you doing???" Really interested to see where her character arc is going!!

[@cartoonking1789]

I am too I just Hope they don’t go too “anti deity” with the storyline, I like having good gods in the setting.😊

[@devils_kin0449]

@@cartoonking1789me too

[@Monivrian]

​@@cartoonking1789 I don't agree with you. Worlds without gods is funny :D

[@nekohallowking4762]

@@cartoonking1789same same in season one I loved how ever light basically said “I don’t need you to be pious just have faith and be yourself”

[@snowkitty1914]

that's called the real world​@@Monivrian

[@FearlessGamer27]

I think one of the coolest little details in this scene is in her run up against Thordak, she slams the ground with her mace to launch herself, the name move Kima had used before on Vorgual.

[@StrawHatBobert]

The devils voice pushing Pike BEYOND is so. Fucking. Awesome. Bless Up.

[@amadeus5889]

I love how this show is giving every character their own Super Saiyan moment, with a scream of triumph and an epic final attack.

[@anthonynwankpele162]

they didnt give percy any moment. I cant watch this show anymore. Heart broken

[@amadeus5889]

@@anthonynwankpele162 I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Percy. It would make thematic sense, if they’re going off-script from the campaign, for him to come back and put an end to Ripley himself. But I’m just guessing.

[@shazaz1059]

​@@anthonynwankpele162 That man has had enough moments in the series, way before they even got the vestiges

[@FearlessGamer27]

@@anthonynwankpele162Nah, he’s had his moments. He had a ton in the first season with “No Mercy Percy” and even with this season, that shot of him throwing the black powder at Ripley was fucking awesome.

[@FearlessGamer27]

@@amadeus5889Honestly, I think there’s gotta be a way for him to come back. We didn’t see the matron take his soul because presumably Orthax has a hold of it. I think Vox Machina will somehow find a way to revive him by killing Orthax, freeing his soul, and possibly performing some ritual.

[@shiroemiya3953]

This is why pike is my favorite character. Funny, good friend and just straight up reliable.

[@MagnanimousEntropy]

One of the greatest animated shows ever made.

[@jamespradel7918]

this and Castlevania

[@MagnanimousEntropy]

@@jamespradel7918 Agreed.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

You said it. The fact that Invincible gets all the attention instead of this confuses and infuriates me, considering they came out the same year and this show is EASILY better.

[@MagnanimousEntropy]

@HaydrogenBomb I could not agree more. I enjoy Invincible, but this is clearly the superior show.

[@dvw7665]

@@HaydrogenBomb Invincible cant even come close to this masterpiece

[@gabthegreat01]

Epic scene, but Pike casting away the Everlight is making me nervous...

[@starlight36484]

Same

[@kjj26k]

Nah, don't be. There is precedent in Exandria for holy warriors going it without a god, even rejecting them outright. Ok, the big example is Zerxus, but Pike toooootally won't end up like he did because the Zerxus' great mistake was making the one god he did listen to be THE LORD OF THE HELLS. Pike has just stopped listening to her god, it's even not like there is some dark deity out there that could seduce her. ...

[@shazaz1059]

To be fair the Everlight was doing jackshit to help her in any major way until she put faith in herself

[@kinghoenn3478]

​@@shazaz1059 Well the Everlight had incredibly few worshipers so her ability to help was very limited. Also a Cleric tossing away their symbol is just asking to lose all their powers. Only Warlocks have it more rough when it comes to their capabilities.

[@nomisunrider6472]

Pike, he's a literal devil who tried to kill you all, maybe you shouldn't be taking his "cut yourself off from everyone else" advice....

[@jbblck1]

Pike hit him with that Care Bear Stare

[@Dkspardan]

TASTE THE RAINBOW MOTHERFU**ER :D

[@HaydrogenBomb]

Hahahahaha ohmygosh that is perfect

[@sunnyworldproductions4818]

Pike, it is wonderful to have you home. You bring everyone closer to their best selves, and I can only imagine what a burden that must be.

[@wauft]

The best Kamehameha ever

[@HaydrogenBomb]

What's better, this or Keyleth taking out Silas Briarwood in season one?

[@krennopher1269]

Roshi would be proud

[@munaus-3345]

I chuckled as this made me think of the Care Bear stare! 😆

[@mcmewsen]

This song is FIRE. Also not worried about Pike. She'll go back to the Everlight. She's got some stuff to sort out but she'll get there!

[@cartoonking1789]

I Hope so too.

[@SilverScribe85]

I hope you're right, dude

[@kjj26k]

I just hope the Everlight puts in the effort to bring Pike back. Don't just sit there, help your girl out goddess!

[@Oliverf-ej8kl]

@@kjj26kfr. Like she’s a god, she should know that pike HAD to go to Hell, so I lowkey don’t like how they’re illuding to the Everlight being pissy with her and not listening to her prayers. Idk if she actually isn’t or Pike just hasn’t tried. But like, if the Everlight is mad that she saved the world, then yeah maybe ditch the big fire lady. They gotta fix that all that to make more sense, or have the Everlight fight for her instead of Pike just being like “F U” and Everlight being “Well fine F U too.”

[@anothermonkey5871]

*"It's not the armor... **_IT'S ME!_** "* Pike's coolest moment. Hands. Down. Seriously, Ashley Johnson's delivery was amazing and the animation was impeccable.

[@zeus9929]

Hot take. This is the best animated scene I’ve seen in my entire life. Period.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

It's up there.

[@zeus9929]

@ there’s not another scene I’d prefer to watch.

[@masoncourteoreille6767]

So are we essentially looking at a pressurized beam of condensed plasma/fire that shoots out like a water cutter 0:49

[@Throom]

I think it converts it to force damage (non elemental magic damage). If it were fire or plasma it wouldn't affect a red dragon or a gem made of a primordial fire titan...

[@anothermonkey5871]

@@Throom According to Tal'Dorei Campaign Setting Reborn, the Plate of the Dawnmartyr can deal fire or radiant damage in its Exalted state. In the original campaign, the Plate of the Dawnmartyr it was already in its Exalted state when Pike received it. Since we have nothing to confirm nor deny this information in The Legend of Vox Machina, we can assume that the Plate of the Dawnmartyr is in its Exalted state; therefore, we can also assume that Pike's attack most likely dealt radiant damage.

[@PolarBearon]

This scene with Pike is my favorite of the show so far. It's high up there with animated scenes in general, for me.

[@CompassRoseCreates]

0:49 For the campaign watchers, there’s a blink and you’ll miss it detail. You see her wings!

[@anothermonkey5871]

Holy shit, did she just get blessed by Sarenrae?!

[@MayTheOddsBeInYourFavor]

Honestly that scene was HELLA DOPE

[@hackermanack3393]

Raishan: " So anyways I started magic teleportation circle-ing "

[@unionjack399]

The most epic CareBear stare ever!!

[@cooldude117007]

Thank you thank you! Subscribing

[@ethanshembvibar7020]

1:35 Raishan has somewhat redeemed herself.

[@itsjustvin7630]

And then the end of the episode happened

[@ethanshembvibar7020]

​@@itsjustvin7630 Like I said somewhat.

[@Spherrum]

Not really. Rewatch season 2 episode 1, where she was just flying over Emon spreading her poison. The dragons killed dozens of thousands of people in less than an hour. She deserves to die as much as any other member of the conclave.

[@toddelmsworth640]

Their goals aligned in wanting Thordak dead… but their reasons for wanting Thordak dead did not

[@LordHydreigon]

Raishan’s alliance with Vox Machina was temporary, after Thordak died, they eventually had to deal with her, pity she couldn’t have been a fully redeemed Chromatic Dragon

[@vincentlefur4490]

Pike did as Zahra told her: "Make the f*cker bleed for it" 👿 One if not the best scene of the show, on the edge of my seat the entire time

[@giacomopagina]

Good lord Almighty, Pike🥵🥵🥵🥵

[@Fayyjeee]

Pike is sooooo cool

[@scatterghostblue3]

Love that blue flame ❤❤❤❤❤ and for a Red dragon Thordak really loves his babies usually red dragon abandoned them after a they grow.

[@alvisceratortheultimate1660]

Hot damn, Pike pulled a Kirby Triple Deluxe with Thordak.

[@moondancer89]

I mean this is just the coolest god damn shit ever right? I'm already a big CR fan but I feel like even if you're not this show still rocks

[@StJohnGaming]

Everyone all worried about her throwing the "Everlight" away and it's just silly. They have been continually telling us over the last 3 season's that Pike's not sure where her power comes from. Is it something that she is doing herself or only being granted by someone else or something. This moment is not her rejecting the Everlight but instead finally believing in herself. We all know she isn't a stereotypical follow of a deity, but she has always helped the Everlight when she could.

[@joeyginise6051]

And the everlight has always stood with her in turn.

[@robertsafar2908]

that was so amaying scene

[@PianoMyHeart]

this suggests to me that they're setting up for the introduction to campaign 3's arc in an eventual Bell's Hells series, which is a GENIUS way to fill out Pike's narrative arc (since Ashley was gone so much during campaign 1). definitely playing the long game here. (lol that is a DnD pun that I did not intend)

[@P0rk_Sinigang]

Raishan with the alley oop

[@SilverScribe85]

That moment where Pike throws her pendant away...does this mean she abandoned her faith?

[@StJohnGaming]

Not really, Pike has never been the stereotypical version of the priest/cleric that always does what she's suppose to. She has fun and doesn't follow the rules but she has always aided the Everlight whenever she could. This is more believing in her abilities and not solely relying on her deity.

[@SilverScribe85]

@@StJohnGaming Still, the next time Pike needs help or guidance from the Everlight, will she answer

[@stephenj2014]

.... n... no it's the armor

[@TheQueerLeaf]

❤

[@Toe_Jamson]

Campaign Spoilers: Pike throwing away her faith in Everlight, I wonder if they're combining her story with Arkhan's. Although I would be upset if we didn't get Joe Mangeniello on the show.

[@stevdawizard392]

Everybody playing Chess and Rhishin playing Poggers

[@GrimtheSnake]

As someone who hates the gods in dnd and has a character who hates the gods, I was absolutely screaming during this like it's my favorite possible direction to take Pike in

[@sethcourtemanche5738]

Are clerics seriously this overpowered in D&D?

[@hhylobates4098]

Nope, this absurdly overpowered item has been changed to suit the simplified story of the show.

[@Meshifuari]

Not a big fan of Pike throwing away her faith in Everlight. I am all about character growth and Pike having more confidence in her own skills, because there are places where Everlight simply cannot help... However the idea that she could not use her vestige due to her faith in god is rather irritating. It has never happened in the original campaign and in this show it is so far depicted as a good thing. Which I don't like. Having good gods that you can rely on in fantasy worlds is in my opinion better than simple idea that all gods are arrogant and selfish.

[@alexkautz891]

This is a good point, but I'm not sire that's what they meant with Pike's moment here. From the beginning of season one, Pike has relied on the Everlight not just for power, but also for guidance. So much so that when she was cut off, she abandoned the group for a while. She has such extreme faith in her goddess, in her friends, but very little in herself. This is a consistent trait throughout the series. By casting aside the Everlight pendant, I don't think she's truely abandoning her faith, but instead purposefully putting herself in a position where she can only rely on herself (away from her goddess, away from her friends). Her self-confidence is what allowed her to weild the armor, not giving up religion. At least, that's how I see it.

[@Musician0489]

I don't think it was about forsaking her god, so much as it was about not relying on her as much and believing in her own abilities.

[@shazaz1059]

I don't think they're trying to paint the Everlight as some arrogant or even selfish god, more so that Pike relies too much on the faith of the Everlight in situations where it can't help her as much as she'd want it to Pike having personal feats and potential keeps her entire skill set from being defined by the Everlight alone, it's a separation that helps her stand out I'm sure Pike will eventually learn to balance having faith in herself and the Everlight (we'll just have to see how the rest of the episodes and next season goes) also just because it didn't happen in the original campaign doesn't exactly mean the show has to follow all of the plot threads one to one

[@omegaprime9794]

The issue is that she is too reliant on the ever light.

[@Nelski11401]

my lil gnome cleric 🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶

[@thenobody7509]

So for some context. Im pretty sure pike just changed from cleric to paladin. Meaning her powere come from herself and not a god

[@krumpits]

What really annoys me about this scene is it not only IS the armor, its also the everlight. Like pike is a cleric, they gain power from their god through devotion, i really hate this anti god turn theyve done with pike

[@jesusguadalupe8396]

I think the point was "there's nothing wrong with the armor there's something wrong with me!"

[@krumpits]

@@jesusguadalupe8396 oh thats a fair interpretation, hadnt thought of that

[@kjj26k]

​@@krumpits It's echoing Pike's Season 1 conflict. "You mean the problem isn't with my amulet...it's with me?!" In S1 she was denying...ya know, it still isn't really clear what the hell was going on between Pike and the Everlight then... But anyway, the point is she has less self doubt now, more self-confidence, which means she can use the armor. I dont know why that is how the armor that a god made for his champions works, but apparently it is.

[@tromar5758]

Clerics don’t inherently need to be tied to a god or faith to work.

[@krumpits]

@@tromar5758 but like... they do though, thats what a cleric is?!

[@Keram-io8hv]

Heresy Well at least we got this "Hurr any religion weak" into our bingo next to "Discussing American gun rights" Great show but sometimes they could use more subtle messages

[@studyjoe1967]

Its like you're saying you are too slow to comprehend

[@shazaz1059]

Ironic you say they could use more subtle messages when they literally subtly foreshadowed that abandoning the Everlight will have its consequences Like how is the "planted the seed of doubt" scene flying over fucking everyone's heads

[@whitemoonwolf13]

@@shazaz1059 and the constant talk of blood. i've got a feeling we're gonna see a vecna possessed pike or something like that.

[@harumaru4205]

it make no sense at all. this invalidates what happen with the everlight in the last seasons. i am not too thrilled on this one. throwing away her faith for what, why is having faith in a god bad?

[@phil.l.1327]

I can't stand this show, how they killed off Percy, Kash, and now Pike throws away her everlight pendant. This show isnt even worth watching anymore, what a disappointment.

[@shazaz1059]

Respectfully disagree

[@AJS3157]

Disrespectfully disagree

[@shazaz1059]

@@AJS3157 I respectfully agree with you disrespectfully disagreeing

[@matthewallen2273]

Percy will have to come back for the plot. (I hope) Pike isn't limited by her faith anymore, no crutch.

[@feeltheflumph]

The dice killed Percy, it was always going to happen. With all these things I'd say give it time and see how the plot develops.