Pilot and his 16-year-old daughter killed when plane hits Fullerton warehouse

[@change_your_oil_regularly4287]

Realising you are going to die is horrible but also realising that your child is going to as well is horrific

[@beezusHrist]

Which is why you don't put your f%$^ing child in that position to begin with

[@warntheidiotmasses7114]

People should stop climbing into these dumb small planes. I watch these videos and resign myself to never get in one. The risk reward doesn't compute.

[@westerlywinds5684]

@@warntheidiotmasses7114Big ones too lately.

[@92JohnDorian]

@@warntheidiotmasses7114 so you have no idea about aviation. got it.

[@Joskemom]

It hurts to hear his last transmission. The helplessness in his voice says it all.

[@renodavid]

Whew. Going down with your 16-year-old daughter next to you. That’s rough. My most sincere condolences to the family.

[@mistersniffer6838]

I dont think they care right now.

[@YOURDADSNEPHEW]

Lmfao

[@TryionLannisterr]

Whew? Come on man someone lost family grow up

[@zerosixteen.4644]

Kobe moment

[@TryionLannisterr]

@@zerosixteen.4644 your mom got apped by a black fella….kobe moment

[@woahdude-iz4mc]

am i tripping or is there a lot of crazy things happening in the last like 2 weeks

[@Donnerbalken_]

yeah. but normally we wouldnt know about these smaller crashes. our algorithms just push aviation content since we all saw so many of the videos of the 2 big air disasters.

[@HokieJuju]

Way too much crazy stuff happening in the last 2 days!!!!

[@kylieharrison3782]

I feel the same way. It's like a higher power is telling us humans to return to walking as a mode of transport, and we ought to return to local business instead of being global. Capitalism is dying.

[@Donnerbalken_]

@@kylieharrison3782 climate will thank us

[@technowelliebobs4779]

@@Donnerbalken_ I keep current in aviation this is absolutely not a normal time. Though you wouldn't be far wrong for believing it was the algorithm

[@Katkandie]

That final outcry broke my heart. The despair in his final moments.😢

[@venomusbite3461]

U can hear in his voice he grabbed his daughter and said goodbye with a hug

[@jrviade85]

they cut the audio but most likely they started screaming in horror

[@verabolton]

@@venomusbite3461 I'm sure he did not. He flew the plane till the very last minute, trying to save their lives.

[@johndurrer7869]

@@venomusbite3461 No he didn’t, He would’ve been trying to fix the situation. He wouldn’t give up

[@justablackman899]

So you think he gave up? ​@@johndurrer7869

[@just_another_brick_in_the_wall]

That "oh,no" is heartbreaking. RIP.

[@Ssbad24]

Didn't realize how often small planes go down till I started watching "Pilot Debrief"

[@enigmawyoming5201]

Hoover does an amazing job describing the why things happen. Most times it is Pilot overconfidence. Not in this case likely.

[@TheHikingHoosier]

Pilot debrief barely scratches the surface

[@fhturner3]

Just under 13 General Aviation fatal accidents per month for 2024…which is the best it’s been in a long time, maybe ever. Kinda like fatal auto accidents…they’re going on all the time at a fairly regular rate. Best we can do is keep trying to bring the rate down.

[@ticketyblue3080]

Me too.

[@seminolefantodd4736]

Hoover does a good job as well as Juan Browne of the blancolirio channel on KZbin. Juan Browne is a commercial pilot and flies - i believe - Boeing 777's for one of the major airlines.

[@Rutabaga64]

Hearing both of them as they realized what was about to happen was heartbreaking. Sending my sincerest condolences to their families, I’m so terribly sorry for their loss. 💔

[@LostinMIA]

The last thing he said hit me hard. God give the family the strength in this tragedy!

[@miteco1]

He was a former UH-1H pilot for USArmy and a flight instructor out of Fort Bragg and then an engineer for Sling Aircraft out of Torrance, CA and then a private entrepreneur helping others build their own kit planes. An aviation afficionado following his dream with a common theme of serving and helping others. Blue skies to this fine gentleman and to his family.

[@RaptorRockDrakeJesus]

And now he's dead and selfishly took his daughter with him. None of this former military service matters anymore. He took his daughters life so I don't see that he deserves sympathy

[@Melie7890]

Blue skies to him? He killed his family... in perfect flying weather, too. Screw this pos.

[@tbone1212]

⁠@@RaptorRockDrakeJesusI bet he woke up that morning and said to himself, I’m gona kill myself and my daughter today…

[@Cal3000]

I just find it crazy that such experienced pilots still make these small costly mistakes

[@LIRTC91]

@@Cal3000 Panic can set in quickly, sounds like he was engine out just above ground and every decision had to be made in a narrow band. He went outside of it and stalled the plane and crashed. I think its similar to what happened in Korea in that, the pilot made a judgement error and instead of having a bad landing they crashed. So sad.

[@M5guitar1]

I've flown out of that airport with a friend. My old boss crashed a Ford Trimotor there many years ago. So sad for a 16 year old. RIP.

[@Mrbfgray]

Good grief, trimotor a relic and not a particularly safe one even for it's day.

[@rcbif101]

Trimotors are plenty safe. They give thousands of flight a year at Oshkosh and other events.

[@14chaos2]

@@rcbif101 The vast IGNORANCE in this comment thread is mindfully painful

[@thud9797]

I'm assuming there is no good place in this densely populated area for an emergency landing.

[@cmchamp9703]

@@thud9797there’s roads etc as we saw from an earlier incident. But if you’re looking for open fields of grass yah no

[@GrandAnt]

As a pilot, I want to giv my condolences as a fully aware individual of the possibilities. I'm so freaking sorry you two.

[@beebeescreebee]

I'm sure those two dead people appreciate your sorriness. Why not offer condolences to those living folks that are going through a very difficult time?

[@markpreston6930]

As a deli worker I am sick of seeing 'As a' posts.

[@Melie7890]

You male pilots are so deadly. Stop killing people with your sheer negligence. This guy tried to make the impossible turn and killed himself and his innocent daughter.

[@rayimd]

@@beebeescreebee can't tell if this is rage bait or a real mental illness

[@OhMySack]

​@@markpreston6930Ya'll need a sammich.

[@raywest3834]

Never turn after losing power at low altitude.

[@JohnnyPerth]

Impossible turn

[@kountrygunz2032]

@@JohnnyPerth same outcome every time.

[@Mrbfgray]

Why did he still have the mike keyed when his sole focus should have been to fly the darn thing? Nothing more the tower could do.

[@stonew1927]

@@Mrbfgray Oh, yea, let me turn off the mic before I crash. SMH

[@Mrbfgray]

@@stonew1927 The mike button must be held down so that constant random radio traffic doesn't flood the airwaves when nothing of importance is to be transmitted. Go back to your games.

[@fnancyb]

This is a very common type of air accident. They call it the Impossible Turn. It’s also one of the very first things that you’re taught to avoid when you learn how to fly, at least I was. You ever notice how there’s almost always golf courses at the usual departure end of airports? They’re there for a reason! In case of an emergency on takeoff, like what happened to Harrison Ford at SMO (Santa Monica Airport) several years ago, those open spaces can be considered for an immediate emergency landing. Pilots are supposed to keep an eye out for places on the ground that might be used as optional emergency landing sites. Although everyone’s first thought is to go back to the safety of the airport, that’s usually a lethal choice. Because making that turn back when power has been lost costs you everything in lift, as we saw today. Going forward in a glide into an emergency landing in an open area is the better option. The most well known example of this is, of course, Captain “Sully” Sullenberger, who made the bold choice to ditch onto the Hudson River after a bird strike over the crowded boroughs of New York.

[@whartonitec1041]

ATC is to blame. Make left turn, Wind is calm?! How did that help a plane with engine failure!

[@googaagoogaa12345678]

​@@whartonitec1041How is ATC at fault? Ultimate decision on everything is up to pilot. Nimrod shouldn't have tried to do the turn.

[@tomato-v8x]

The golf courses comment is not true at all. Most airports dont have golf courses at the end of the runways because departure runways change from day to day.

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

Sully did a great job avoiding a breakup of the plane but other than that ,he had no choice - the river or all those buildings. Whenever I fly ,departure is the scariest part of my flight as in takeoff your choices are almost non existent at low altitudes

[@rayimd]

​@@tomato-v8x What they're saying makes plenty sense, my airport is surrounded by golf courses for miles.

[@georgehardie2016]

There is a reason it’s called the impossible turn at 900 feet engine out straight ahead is only choice

[@MarinaJBoyd]

Should he find an open field or road to attempt landing that is straight ahead? I'm sure it is difficult in an Urban setting like this but I keep seeing this 180° turn is "impossible". RIP Dad and Daughter. Probably a very special bond they had.

[@03olo020]

@@MarinaJBoyd It comes down to airspeed and load when you're engine out and trying to turn at such a steep angle. Almost all of the time you don't have the airspeed to stop the plane from stalling when trying to turn back to the runway and the only way to gain the airspeed necessary is to force the nose towards the ground which is counter-intuitive. Very sad and happens more often than it should.

[@gorillacookies3171]

@@MarinaJBoydso special he caused her to die

[@TheRightNathan]

My primary instructor told me "on engine out, straight ahead leads to the hospital, left or right leads to the graveyard." I never forgot it.

[@leob4403]

​@@TheRightNathanso you think he should have tried emergency landing on the road?

[@SoakDisko]

Damn! you hear that poor girl start to say "omg dad!" thats so sad 😭

[@kimt1054]

I didn't catch that until I saw your comment and went back and listened again. That's heartbreaking. 😢

[@Watching-h5r]

That was the dad saying it.

[@jponz85]

Yeah no it was the pilot who said that

[@juanfromdennys]

Yes, the obviously adult male voice is very easy to confuse with a 16 year old girl's. Actually 0 IQ comment.

[@Dora-xg6xc]

​@Watching-h5r She spoke also..."oh my God, da...". slow the speed and you'll hear her too. So, so sad.😢

[@keckchan7156]

Rip to the dad and daughter. 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@zerdellbui8979]

My Heart goes out to the WIFE/MOM🙏

[@marthamartin23]

Oh my gosh.. this is sad. 16, she was so young. 😔 RIP to the dad and his daughter. 🙏🏻❤️. Condolences to their family and friends.

[@hedgehog1684]

2025 strange year

[@Ana-y3u1z]

🙏🏻🌹🌹🇺🇸🕯💗💖🌿☮☮🙏🏻🙏🏻🌿

[@dianatenney5941]

Absolutely is sad, condolences to the families and friends. 🙏❤

[@yokosomike]

My father had a business across the street from a local airport and there must have been at least three or four hard or crash landings a year with those small planes. Prayers go out to all involved and for the families who lost loved ones.

[@Faisalbinomar-qx9yx]

Always remember these numbers. 250' = One second. Tear drop turn could turn to tears. RIP fellow aviator.

[@MrMuradski]

What does this mean? I’m interested, would you mind explaining?

[@ShanaraHarris-n7n]

??

[@OhioPalmTrees]

@@MrMuradskimeaning when your at 250’ in the air you need to be on top of your game cuz if something goes wrong it’s a second until you hit the ground

[@imzanky6321]

@@MrMuradski tear drop is the turn back to the airport. If you lose your engine just after takeoff you don't have the altitude or airspeed to turn around.

[@westcoastpilot]

@@OhioPalmTrees it can't be one second. You are saying the descent rate is 250' per second. According to the ADS-B data for this accident, the last data point showed a descent rate of 563 feet per MINUTE, which is about 9 feet per second

[@jcman240]

You could here them both at the end in a state of panic…RIP

[@ThePoorBoy]

Yes, sadly sounded like his daughter's voice right before his.

[@Irishwoman004]

So sad. RIP

[@MeMeVoyageOf]

You can hear the daughter gasp twice in the audio/video footage they have over at the channel on KZbin of KTLA 5.

[@Teebee44]

@@ThePoorBoyyaw have good ears

[@deepg7084]

This is why even after I get my license, I will never fly family members. My nieces and nephew want to fly but I'll never take them with me. If I die in the pilot seat, it will be alone or with an instructor only.

[@frankiethefrog1752]

Yea I dont get why so many amateur pilots like to take out their families in these little planes. Not worth it.

[@molder2233]

Instructor: Thanks, buddy.

[@deepg7084]

@@molder2233 They know what they sign up for 🤣

[@ChicAngelxox]

@@molder2233lol

[@suzukirider9030]

...I'd say don't get into it with this kind of death-wish mindset. If you don't feel comfortable taking your family on a given flight for whatever reason (personal skill, aircraft condition, weather, ANYTHING) - you shouldn't fly. Unless you're a military pilot on a mission... which requires a whole different mindset and willingness to sacrifice.

[@turbobuick86]

RIP to the pilot and his daughter. I spent 14 years (1976-1990) in the building adjacent to the crash site. We actually used that site as storage for our manufacturing. Many planes went down around us being as we were lined up with the runway. Most well known was the 1986 death of Bruce Wayne, the eye in the sky for KFI traffic.

[@HighSierraBob]

Don't forget the Yorba Linda crash a few years ago on Super Bowl Sunday. There seems to be a lot of incidents with planes from that airport.

[@manningconey1247]

I guess the people in the warehouse that lost their lives wasn't important!!..yea.. make sense to me 😮!!!

[@NicoleMcphaul]

And drunk Billy

[@HongyaMa]

Bruce T boned a truck trailer... Mike Noland retired after replacing Bruce...

[@Bozeman42]

@@manningconey1247 No one in the warehouse was killed as far as I have seen or heard.

[@MeMeVoyageOf]

You can hear the daughter gasping in the audio portion played with the video on KTLA 5's youtube channel. Very haunting.

[@SkydivingSquid]

The pilot's final words showcased just how horrified he was. Prayers go out to him and his daughter.

[@dave3313]

So sad, so sorry for the family and those injured. Very sad at 16 so young her father, oh man tears starting. His last words, he knew what was coming. God bless.

[@goldeneaglejk2678]

Engine out on takeoff you DO NOT turn back. At 900 feet you will lose too much speed and altitude trying to make the turn back. Configure the plane for best glide and land off airport, you have a much better chance. We call this the impossible turn for a reason.

[@suzukirider9030]

...well, 900 ft AGL is enough for a teardrop turn in a C-172, even more so in an RV-10 with slightly better glide ratio. 500 ft is the minimum for that. So it would likely be preferred to attempting a landing in dense urban sprawl. This pilot attempted to fly a closed pattern and land on 24 - for that, he did not have enough altitude... RIP

[@MrDLRu]

The impossible turn gets another.

[@eric.ross.art1]

My thoughts exactly. Don't. Do. It.

[@MarinaJBoyd]

So would the proper hail Mary in this scenario be to try and find an open field or road to land straight ahead? I don't fly, so this is my first time hearing about the impossible turn. The audio is just very heartbreaking.

[@HokieJuju]

@@MarinaJBoydYep, the impossible turn back to the airport is almost always fatal while most pilots will survive if they fly straight ahead & find a field, golf course or a road (as a last resort) to land on when they have engine failure. But SO many pilots just instinctually want to try to make it back to the airport & they almost always die trying. It’s SO sad & heartbreaking for the victims & their families. This was his home airport so he was likely very familiar w/the area & if he had just tried to put the plane down in a field somewhere they’d likely be alive right now. 😥💔

[@fnancyb]

@@MarinaJBoyd This is a very common type of air accident. It’s also one of the very first things that you’re taught to avoid when you learn how to fly, at least I was. You ever notice how there’s almost always golf courses at the usual departure end of airports? They’re there for a reason! In case of an emergency on takeoff, like what happened to Harrison Ford at SMO (Santa Monica Airport) several years ago, those open spaces can be considered for an immediate emergency landing. Pilots are supposed to keep an eye out for places on the ground that might be used as optional emergency landing sites. Although everyone’s first thought is to go back to the safety of the airport, that’s usually a lethal choice. Because making that turn back when power has been lost costs you everything in lift, as we saw today. Going forward in a glide into an emergency landing in an open area is the better option. The most well known example of this is, of course, Captain “Sully” Sullenberger, who made the bold choice to ditch onto the Hudson River after a bird strike over the crowded boroughs of New York.

[@Fizzbomb123]

I’m not a pilot, why is conducting a turn fatal?

[@anthonycharles-d5i]

Lots of crashes related to that airport lately. The worst I've heard about was when two commuter planes collided right over the 91 freeway. A witness said one of the planes' passengers fell out of the sky still buckled into their seat.

[@MaddieDazey]

We had a plane crash earlier this year at our local airport community in florida. The guy hadnt flown in years and took off and the engine stalled and the plane fell straight down to the earth like a rock. Man did not survive. He was one of the residents that lived in that private airport community.

[@africanahills2851]

So sad to hear

[@radioactivepilot]

The engine quit. The plane stalled.

[@trentejames9773]

damn man.. hearing tha daughters voice saying ong dad n then silence is terrible smh REST N PEACE

[@surgem6089]

The panic you can hear 😢😖

[@alexmozie6301]

Well that was one of the most heartbreaking final transmissions I've ever heard :(

[@MyEmpire91]

Don’t do a 180 with low power and low altitude. Kills you everytime

[@RaptorRockDrakeJesus]

And yet he did it with his kid in the plane /: father is dumb

[@imzanky6321]

@@RaptorRockDrakeJesus He's not dumb. He's human. All humans make mistakes, especially when it comes down to split second decisions.

[@Kevin---kx3jy]

@@RaptorRockDrakeJesus not dumb. Humans, even you, react unpredictably when they are faced with immense stress like this. There’s very little anybody can do to prepare for something like this.

[@WilliamNast-v1g]

So sorry for the father and daughter and their family. Thinking of you all.

[@LMB8]

Omg. You can hear the fear. I have a 16 yo daughter and we live in downtown Fullerton. So heartbreaking 💔

[@robd367]

Impossible turn is indeed not possible, proven over and over. Sad loss of life

[@davida.4933]

You're wrong. Ultralights, trikes, STOL planes can do it easily and others as well depending upon altitude and pilot's skill.

[@robd367]

@ he wasn’t in a STOL or ultralight now was he? I never mentioned anything about those types of aircraft. Hell man I can build a paper airplane that would do impossible turns without stalling. So maybe he should have been flying an ultralight when planning to have an engine out?

[@Dafnessific]

Almost always the wrong choice, though I remember at least one vid illustrating that may not be true if it's a truncated turn to different runway than departed.

[@billymacktexasdetective5827]

You are wrong. It should be renamed the improbable turn, as I've watched a few videos of it being pulled off successfully.

[@TL-pz2kp]

@@Dafnessific he WAS going back to a different runway than the one he had just departed from

[@JohnnyPerth]

The airport is surrounding by city, not many places to try and do an emergency landing

[@iamcoreilly]

And, as is often the case, the airport was there first.

[@WApnj]

True. But gliding to the ground is better than diving into the ground. Should not have turned. I know that and I'm not a pilot.

[@theprophet489]

That's when you say survival to hell with rules and regulations especially my child is with me if I have to glide straight ahead for a road or park engine stall iam going into survival mode sad really sad 😢😢condolences to the family god be with them ​@WApnj

[@ghostlytavern129]

Man. I can’t imagine how horrifying that was. With your daughter going down with you too. My hearts with the family. I hope all the factory workers are okay and have fast recoveries

[@small_fries7573]

😢😢😢 Carmen, aged 31, passed away from her short battle with cancer in October 2024. She left behind her two year old son, husband, & healthy parents. Throughout her short life, a few friends would mention to her about Jesus Christ, but she rejected any preaching of Jesus Christ. She would say she would believe if she saw Jesus Christ himself! One day she started to get very ill. She went to the docs to get reports on why she was quite ill. After a few tests, doctors diagnosed her with terminal cancer. She didn’t have long to live. She would be in the hospital, and that was where she would have two encounters with God. One evening she had a dream where she fell off from somewhere and a figure extended His hand to save her. She saw a male figure which seem to give a radiant of light. She kept thinking that this might be the Jesus Christ that her friends would tell her about in the past. It was soon she started to believe that this figure was indeed God (Jesus Christ). Not long after she had an actual near-death experience where Jesus Christ was about to take her away to bring her up to heaven. But she refused to leave this world & came back to life briefly. She shared both encounters with her love ones letting them know that Jesus Christ is indeed real. This was her dying wish to let them know this truth so they too will believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior & go to heaven. Very soon after, she left this world. Carmen’s godly encounters should convince you that Jesus Christ is real. She waited until her final moment to accept Jesus Christ as her Savior. Please don’t wait until your final breaths to possibly accept Jesus Christ as your savior.

[@timothy9596]

I live about a mile from that airport and was hearing tons of sirens, but I had no idea it was because of this. Condolences to the families of the departed.

[@SPIKESPIEGEL1969]

Shame on the news people for airing audio of their last moments. Horrific and disrespectful

[@TheHellFlower1]

Man, you guys should remove the cabin verbiage. No mother wants to scroll the news and hear their teenager and husband's last moments of panic. Wtf.

[@l3wn3ytun3z4]

Right Jesus

[@CélioMazuziJr]

@@TheHellFlower1 ,😭

[@FlowKio]

Should’ve seen the stuff they had on in the 90s they didn’t give af full descriptions and photos to boot

[@TheHellFlower1]

@FlowKio Should have asked how long I have lived and what I have seen. It certainly wasn't what you've mentioned.

[@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant]

I highly doubt the mother is browsing youtube news clips of her loved ones demise...

[@JFirn86Q]

You don't make the Impossible Turn... you land straight ahead and live. Flying it all the way to the crash is always more survivable compared to a stall spin.

[@RobRyan-c3v]

I just watched the Kegworth crash before this happened. That pilot was amazing after messing up, so he redeemed himself.

[@theprophet489]

People don't use common sense anymore remember scully he headed straight for the Hudson just let the tower know what you gonna do don't let them tell you what to do you is in control

[@Bones469]

*The Impossible Turn*.

[@nikkipooh02]

You truly couldn't pay me to fly on one of these small planes. They are always crashing

[@TL-pz2kp]

Why is everyone the authority on what the pilot did wrong?! He had just left that same airport and asked to come back due to an extreme emergency. He was instructed to take a left turn by the controller. Let the poor guy and his daughter rest in peace and stop judging.

[@Jleed989]

The idea of a “kit plane” seems scary in itself

[@moogs]

It’s not. Very popular plane. Thousands built and flown and requires inspection and maintenance like any other plane

[@ADAPTATION7]

First thing that came to mind.

[@andyhughes1776]

A friend of mine built an RV-8 and has been flying out of Chino for years. A couple years ago, his engine quit while he was flying his 10 year old son. Luckily, he was able to land back at the airport. He had enough altitude.

[@mason5540]

They are death traps

[@r4raced4doom2]

There are 10k plus Van's aircraft flying. Kit planes are very safe and have likely nothing to do with the engine stopping.

[@pnoi808]

We had a similar crash in Hawaii 2 died crash near the airport. My prayers to the family.

[@Cindy-r3e7i]

So sad for the wife and mother losing them both and also seeing and hearing comments of her husband pilot getting lots of blame. What a shame.

[@JudgeDredd_]

Yeah she married a guy who made a terrible decision. Gave her a daughter and then ended her. Horrible.

[@lydiacooper9260]

What is going on with all of the horrific plane crashes happening all around the world not even 3 days into the new year, How terrified they must have been knowing, heart goes out to all family and friends. HORRIBLE, just HORRIBLE😢

[@kountrygunz2032]

nothing is going on. there's about a dozen crashes/incidents every month in general aviation while commercial aviation can go months to years without fatal crashes.

[@ciello___8307]

Civil aviation accidents are very common. Less maintenance and amateur pilots. There was a crash landing same airport last month too.

[@madhukarjonathanminj2772]

As others have said, General Aviation has lots of casualties every year,it is slightly more dangerous than motorcycling statistically, Commercial aviation on the other hand is one of the safest ways to travel,if I am correct only trains are safer than Commercial aeroplanes.

[@MaddieDazey]

More and more people are flying and giving pilot lessons. More planes are being built. More planes in the sky means more casualties...

[@MaddieDazey]

All it takes is failure to complete a safety check list to crash and burn. Like John Denver not knowing that his fuel tank was low, and not knowing where the emergency fuel switch was, or not knowing that he couldn't reach it behind the seat. More and more people are flying for fun. Lots of retired doctors and dentists are becoming pilots just because they want to fly. We have emergency landings and casualties all the time where I live-at least once a year- where we have 2 private airports.

[@sharonrose50]

Well at the rate we are starting out in 2025 we just need to go back to traveling on foot and no cars,planes etc.

[@cadbane1093]

And keeping Muslims out of

[@tbone3972]

You say “WE”…… Many people have have the luxury fly…. & many times time is of the essence…… many people want to beat the time. It’s a race against time.

[@Theboxingtour]

2025 is crazy already wtf ..

[@Cy93]

Planes are the worst anyway.

[@CYR888]

Or horses

[@davegball]

I can't even imagine how the wife/mother feels right now.

[@carlf.9035]

Dont take your young children on these small tin planes. If youre an adult go but someone at the start of their lives , its a bad judgement on parents. Just my 2 cents you dont have to agree.

[@MartyG101]

This is already a bad year... 😢

[@Mrbfgray]

Meanwhile 200 have already perished on US roads, 10X more left with life altering injuries. Situation normal.

[@MSaleh-vy8rr]

Every year always has airplane mishaps always

[@lifeintornadoalley]

I hope them warehouse workers get some therapy. How sad for them to suffer from PTSD from this.

[@GneissTigersEye]

It's just heartwarming to see another news agency show the horrific final moments of two people and headline with what I presume is their last words. So classy that they make even more money off of it. Truthfully, I feel sorry for the family knowing that their deaths are being shown around the world to sell ads and make money. What does it add to any of our lives? Not a god damn thing. Sick fucks.

[@RenxoLuizArturo1]

That worker sure been right the whole time..Someday..and it happened.😢

[@kelseyquantum]

Sorry but flying a plane cannot be a hobby. Too many risks. Use a flight simulator.

[@stevefisher2553]

EXACTLY

[@The_Crow78.]

Finally, one person that is not dumb.

[@camward9293]

Do you have any flying experience?

[@Blox117]

this is why we dont ask women for their opinions

[@DMEseter]

Aww poor girl. RIP

[@Cindy-r3e7i]

And poor dad

[@bnwo]

These tiny planes go down all the time.

[@HomeWrecknKneeKnockr]

Boss just kept shouting everybody git back to work!

[@jeniferjordan35]

Bless them and those who are heartlost.

[@CarLos-bt8uk]

Never risk your familys lives on a single engine plane

[@stephanfiebich1561]

What is wrong with a single engine plane, the risk is less than most light twin engine planes. During take off there are only a few twins that can climb on one engine and they are from the days when noise abatement’s didn’t exist.

[@CarLos-bt8uk]

@stephanfiebich1561 you can risk your family in a single engine if you want the rest of us want our blood line to continue thank you very much 🙏

[@keytothewall]

Never risk your families life in a car 🤡

[@_purge9488]

Never get out of practice with your power off 180’s* He was in the downwind already. Should also brief before taking off: the MSL altitude (1000-1500AGL) for when you could turn back for the same runway.

[@theresacaron4238]

It's called the impossible turn for a reason. Always land straight ahead or slightly to the side 10 degrees or less and walk away. Never, ever try to turn back. Hell, he could have landed on that roof with a better outcome. RIP for the deceased.

[@TL-pz2kp]

They always have them turn back at Fullerton. Too densely populated around this airport. Controller asked him if he could make a left turn. That rooftop was his only hope as it was the only clear space Before he got back to airport.

[@descendantofphineas7785]

Been a Flight instructor for 38 yrs, this pilot broke the holy grail of mistakes. Turning back to the runway after take off.

[@FlappyBelly]

What is the right move? Level off and go from there?

[@KienDLuu]

The saying "never ride with a friend in his new sportscar" goes for recreational aircraft aswell.

[@kenweber5304]

The level of ignorance in comments here is staggering!

[@DEUTSCHLAND.007]

I was a passenger in one of this small one engine planes in a connection flight departing from a small town in the East Coast to catch an international flight. That thing shook throughout the whole flight, the non stop rattling of the framing scared the crap out of me.

[@disc0pat1]

Yes, that happened to me too. The stewardess didn't even want to give me something to drink because we were bouncing all over the place.

[@derrick2251]

That’s normal. Like bumps in the road or waves in the ocean.

[@camward9293]

Do you freak out when you drive over a pothole?

[@tysoncott7402]

Another “impossible turn” incident, learned this as a 11-12yr old boy learning to fly R/C airplanes many many years ago. that roof looks almost large enough they could of set that small plane down on that safely.

[@darrintesta3244]

The fear in his voice ,just heart breaking.

[@soramame7528]

I am so sorry for your loss. It breaks my heart to know that a 16 yr old was killed.

[@regbale]

I worked in a building just off the runway 24 from 1980 to 1986. There used to be a large cornfield on the north side of the runway. That’s all houses and retail now. The warehouses off Raymer have always been there and not a factor if you’ve made the field. The takeaway from my comment is Pilots don’t have many options other than a return to the runaway or put it down on a street. May God rest their souls and comfort the family. Terrible tragedy. 🙏🏻

[@TL-pz2kp]

@@regbale exactly!!

[@africanahills2851]

This audio shouldn't have been released to the public

[@c.falcon5045]

Agreed! RIP!🙏🏾🥀🙏🏾🥀

[@colinrdoyle]

It was 'released' as soon as the pilot keyed the mic and broadcast on VHF.

[@NatureSouldierSC]

I am sending so much love to the family and friends of this father and daughter and will continue to hold space for them all.

[@karsonbollinger8412]

crazy cuz this SAME surveillance camera literally just captured the other small plane crash literally at that same block last december

[@ShakespeareCafe]

Just stay out of private planes. The warehouse workers didn’t ask for this. My uncle built one of those vans. While he was assembling it in his garage he asked us if we wanted to fly in it. We said hell no. He went down with my aunt in bad weather a year later

[@Melie7890]

Whoa.

[@camward9293]

Sounds like that wasn't necessarily the plane's fault. RVs are solid aircraft. As far as airplanes in general go, almost every single class and type has multiple accidents attributed to them. That's just how it is unfortunately, but the longer a model of aircraft is around and the more of them are sold, the chances of an accident increase just by sheer volume of airframes built. It's the same thing with cars, trains, boats, motorcycles, you name it. Very often it's not the aircraft but the pilot flying it that causes an accident. Now I am not claiming to know the specifics of the example you gave, just stating a statistical fact.

[@dyoramik]

Flying in bad weather...

[@rosiie1768]

the daughter went to my schools rival school and we have a lot of mutual friends. i never met her but she looked and seemed like such a sweet girl. it really shows that these things can happen to anyone. my heart goes out to all of her and her dads friends and family. truly tragic 💔

[@marryson123]

Going down in an aircraft with your own daughter. That’s some Kobe Bryant shit right there.

[@BabySpit]

In January too 😢

[@molder2233]

Except Kobe and his daughter probably didn’t see it coming.

[@CarlitosLozoya]

@@molder2233 Kobe killed all those innocent people

[@Mikeconch]

I’m almost in tears as a father of two.

[@TIO540S1]

Hard to be certain due to the quality of the video, but it appears (0:52) that the pilot has completely lost control. I don't know if he was trying to execute a turn and stalled, or what else may have cause him to be, apparently, in almost a 90 degree bank. But, no matter what, a crash will have a better outcome if the pilot flies the airplane all the way to the crash rather than losing control.

[@documax123]

Small aircraft are something like 9 times more dangerous than the airlines.

[@camward9293]

Still less dangerous than a car as far as mechanical issues go, but yes.

[@frankiethefrog1752]

@@camward9293statistics are easily skewed. If you had as many people piloting small planes as cars on the road daily, I’d be willing to bet you’d have more fatalities in the planes.

[@traw9865]

Everyone's an aviation expert now

[@TL-pz2kp]

My exact thoughts. Pilot just left the airport, had some catastrophic failure, and needed to go right back. Controller asks him to make a left turn. It obviously happened so fast there was nothing he could do. I’m sure he would’ve saved them had he been able! Everyone is judging the pilot for being a lousy father and giving their “expert” opinion on what he did wrong. Lame.

[@LZE.]

Just awful. May they RIP.

[@scotts6503]

I learned to fly in a suburb of Dallas. It was drilled into me countless times that if we lost power at any altitude less than 1500' above the ground that we would look to stuff the airplane into whatever parking lot, road, clear space etc. and fly the airplane as long as possible into the crash. In the photo this appears that one wing has stalled due to low speed in the turn and once the wing stalls at low altitude you are just along for the ride. Small airplanes can fly straight and level at a relatively, survivable low speed. I fly out of a much less densely packed area now but still say to myself "no turning back unless at least 1500"" Even then one must react immediately, lower the nose and pitch for best glide and resist the urge to stretch a glide where you are likely to stall.

[@HeartsOfDarkness]

“the impossible turn.”

[@MrEricmopar]

I've flown with a couple of light plane pilots years ago and never again... when the passenger knows more about and cares more about safety procedure, you know something is wrong...

[@joevann7365]

100%

[@camward9293]

Any specific examples?

[@Gresham_Portland_Fire_Buff2009]

16!?!?! Jesus christ. That's too young 😭

[@TskTskAhhh]

This will be the story...plane loses power on take-off, pilot tried the impossible turn back to the runway... Have a plan - anticipate a flame out - You can't turn back -- you will not make it. LEARN FROM THIS!

[@brianmorgan3542]

They Didn’t have to die! He Tried The “IMPOSSIBLE TURN” and stalled it.

[@Sentinella911]

Third “explosion” in two days with key person linked to Fort Bragg. First NOLA, then Las Vegas, now this. All 3 men were linked to Fort Bragg.

[@justsnappy]

Dang, don’t want to see that fact but wow!

[@Plutogalaxy]

Amazon sells heavy duty tinfoil in bulk.

[@cd3949]

​@@PlutogalaxyHow is OP incorrect?

[@TL-pz2kp]

And you know this info how?

[@camward9293]

@@cd3949 I mean they put "explosion" in scare quotes. Does that imply that they don't think it was an explosion? That it was CGI? Also what explosion was connected to New Orleans? I knew the guy had makeshift bombs but he didn't detonate anything did he?

[@lmaoyourekiddingme]

That poor girl

[@yaunlee8105]

Without meaning to sound bleak, 2025 seems to be off to a challenging start for air travel. So I’m avoiding flying for now unless absolutely necessary. But my deepest condolences go out to the family. How devasting it must be to realize that you and your kid are going out that way.

[@roadrunnerproductionshavas1591]

This is absolutely heartbreaking to hear the father and daughter scream.. You cannot help to think of your own children. Im so sorry this happened. My prayers to rhe family.

[@Jazz_Tamatea]

Aw man!...Condolences to the Mother, other family and friends 😢. Only 1000ft from the runway omg! Wishing a speedy recovery to the injured amd affected Warehouse staff.

[@vincegedeon6583]

These small planes are so dangerous no way would i get in one friggin thing was built from a kit unreal

[@kikovazquez7277]

You''re speaking for me as well. And I have friends who fly these toy planes and always try to get me in the passenger seat. No problem telling them that it's not ever going to happen. Given the huge population of southern California and with our abundance of wealthy people and year round good weather, we have too many of these neighborhood airports hosting too many small aircraft flown by regular guy pilots at lower altitudes over densely populated areas. I go to sleep now with grief for hearing this, and feeling for the warehouse workers who also endured a horrific experience.

[@jingle1161]

Same, or even worse could be said about cars.

[@DoctorVinnyBoomBatz]

​@@jingle1161Touche'

[@mascot4950]

@@jingle1161 I don't know about you, but I'd volunteer to be in a million cars that has its engine fail while driving, to avoid being in a single-engine airplane where that happens.

[@SpressoHead]

I flew kit-built craft for years without incident. This appears to be a pilot error based on the info available.

[@PeterStaniforth]

The place is completely surrounded by buildings and roads with absolutely no place to perform a relatively safe forced landing. Why does the FAA allow single-engine operations out of airfields like this? How many people would have to die before they legislate something??

[@TQAplus]

best comment here.

[@Island_Line_Rail_Productions]

The FFA? The Future Farmers of America?

[@BR-qq2gb]

@@Island_Line_Rail_Productions cute. You know doggone well it’s a typo. FAA.

[@sharkair2839]

the airport was there long before there were buildings surrounding it. why did they allow that?

[@PeterStaniforth]

@@Island_Line_Rail_Productions Thank you, edited.

[@johndurrer7869]

She trusted him

[@Yaburnt420]

Brother what is going on this past week.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

America needs a safety stand down, seriously! Too much crazy going on.

[@javierpego]

She was crying in fear . Poor kid

[@Teebee44]

Lies

[@SweetestPerfection78]

@@Teebee44 Oh really? so you think they are lying. wtf.

[@Teebee44]

@ goodbye

[@Cheva-Pate]

Is it a fatal crash every day now??

[@HybridAlien-x2f]

You see and you hear . Time to accept the true Lord of hosts Jesus Christ 🛡️ into your life ..

[@elfessa]

@@HybridAlien-x2f i rather worship his creator. u heard them, no lord, no jesus but it was God.

[@tomato-v8x]

Wanna talk about fatal car crashes?

[@rona4960]

In the GA community, there are on average, three "incidents" a day across the country.

[@SweetestPerfection78]

@@HybridAlien-x2f /no.