Pilot Arc Torch With Non Pilot Machine Pilot Arc Conversion

Using pilot arc torch with non pilot machine. Plasma Torch Pilot Arc Conversion check out my video on that links below .But can you use a pilot arc plasma torch on a hf machine without using a plasma hf start to pilot arc converter ? This is how i do it on my cut 40 plasma cutter hf conversion pilot arc i just use my earth lead dinse plug to modify my torch. What is pilot arc ? and why should you care it makes a huge difference when you try and cut pantied or rusty steel.
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[@ricardomontes373]

Good work. It reminded me of the mid 80’s when I was in the business of removing the “Ignition Control Module (ICM)” when going bad in a car and replacing it with a contact breaker (points). I had some stubborn customers who thought that a contact breaker was better than ICM. They were cheaper not better. Prior to the conversion, I had the customer sign a piece of paper absolving me from all responsibility on the repair. It was a good business and to this day, electrical repairs on a car are very lucrative.

[@petestools]

you're not wrong mate

[@johnhajdu4276]

The problem with this hack, that the internal nozzle wears out faster. There was a german video with some cheap plasma cutter the same way as in this video, and they recommended a foot switch, connected to the ground, and the switch only has to be pushed as the cutting starts. Thus the wear out can be reduced.

[@petestools]

Nice idea

[@itshappening9760]

@johnhajdu4276 can you share the link?

[@melivision]

I stumbled upon your channel whilst looking for info on cheap plasma cutters. Found your videos very informative and a pleasure to watch. Thank you. Subscribed! Greetings from sunny Greece.

[@petestools]

Awesome, thank you!

[@bradclark6796]

You have some great videos with good information. Keep up the good work Pete. Cheers from Canada.

[@petestools]

Glad you like them! Canada cool would love to visit someday cheers mate

[@grahampearson1721]

Thanks Pete did the conversion on my plasma cutter working great I'm in the UK very informative tips and very educational many thanks from Graham Pearson💯

[@petestools]

Thanks my friend

[@j.hankinson7803]

Thanks for posting this. I noticed on a schematic for a pilot arc machine that there is a resistor on the green line to earth before it joins up with the big earth ground. This would probably encourage the current to go the the big ground if possible when in use. I have no idea how big a resistor would be needed. I would guess that’s why someone thought the wiring trick messed with their machine.

[@petestools]

Thanks for the info

[@cybertec2005]

just thinking about what you have commented it would be a really good idea to find out the size of the resistor on that machine so you can put it inline of the wire may be just used as a point of failure if there is a bad earth turning your torch into the main earth? not sure how deadly that would be? i have just got a ltsuk ct 416 but can not find a manual for it if i need this to make a piot arc or if my machine has it out the box

[@valdolandar534]

@@cybertec2005 , here a bit of more info, about the relay to make an orthodox circuit. Then the need is for resistor and relay to make a well made conversion . kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5bRnIumlrNnrLM

[@cybertec2005]

@@valdolandar534 cool i would like to see if this can be done to a non pilot arc machine if this board can be added ? it seems like this video is to fix a machine that has pilot arc

[@valdolandar534]

@@cybertec2005 I have in the way from ali express two resistors 10 ohms 200w, (=20ohms 400w), and a circuit with power relay 30A, typical module, but ATTENTION to this: the circuit we can look in the video have capacitors and resistors to attenuate the sparks and danger of auto-welding contacts, the solution is this www.nutsvolts.com/questions-and-answers/relay-contact-life I will put 2 capacitors in parallel es.aliexpress.com/item/4000393128501.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.274263c0oD38YK with one resistor 50 ohms es.aliexpress.com/item/32982418338.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.274263c0oD38YK about the value of resistor for pilot 20 ohms 500W is the intended but 400w is very near for some seconds no problems I think. I have read values from 4 ohms to 20 ohms, more ohms more security and minus power in arc, some people recommend 15 ohms, then 10+10, I can experiment 10 ohms if any issue with 20. In summary, I have bought a non pilot arc plasma cutter to convert it to pilot. es.aliexpress.com/item/4000340262503.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.274263c0aRBVoE ...in the process... And to clarify, the pilot arc need a power resistor to minimize the current, this resistor is great in volume. And need a relay to cut the use of this bypass, but due to high amperage the relay need avoid sparks with capacitors and resistor (this resistor is not the main resistor). In this plasma cutter there are connector to the relay and the pilot terminal but if not, there are another relay to HF, then use in same order in parallel.

[@mycaputra]

awesome Mr. Pete, thanks for your information, its useful for me. Thanks Mr. Pete

[@petestools]

So nice of you

[@Z174822]

Your videos are amazing, thanks Pete. Greetings from Greece!

[@petestools]

Thanks for watching!

[@gardnerraffa5970]

Thanks Pete. I haven’t seen that video. Glad you sent to me. You are the best.

[@petestools]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@scottturner7435]

Great information Pete. Love your videos. Keep up the good work!!!

[@petestools]

Ta

[@onyangodavid532]

Very practical indeed... I am impressed. Thanks

[@petestools]

Thanks mate

[@CraigHeilmanVlogs]

Thank you!

[@petestools]

You're welcome!

[@pablovaldez1978]

I enjoy your video's from Argentina, nice channel

[@petestools]

Awesome, thank you!

[@paulblanos9189]

Awesome, another great video! Thanks Pete!

[@petestools]

Thanks again!

[@eduardodaquiljr9637]

Pet,could you share answer the differences between pilot arc and high frequency torch?

[@petestools]

see my other videos

[@bunyanforgings7849]

The old junk bins .... I can't count the number of times I would be helping my father on some project when I was a boy and would be told to go get some screw or bolt. "It's in the yellow tin.", is what I would be told. It was NEVER in the yellow tin. Lol.

[@petestools]

lol yea

[@9up9up9up]

Would be great to have adapter so you just plug the earth lead in without cutting it open.

[@petestools]

yea very true cheers pete

[@cjbilly345]

Great vid useful stuff Cheers from Texas

[@petestools]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@MrjackieG]

What size is the grub screw in a 35-50 Dinse plug?

[@petestools]

don't know comes with it

[@anonymoushacker7645]

Yeah good 1 Pete great tip I'm dale from England great stuff bud

[@petestools]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@chrismitchell45]

I absolutely love hacks! Great job!

[@petestools]

cool thanks

[@j.hankinson7803]

Thanks for posting the video Pete. Can you say whether a guy can go the other way - using a PT31 torch with a cheap Chinese Pilot arc machine? That way a fella could save the pilot arc consumables for the piercing jobs, and burn up the cheaper ones with regular cutting. Thanks.

[@petestools]

cant see why it wouldn't work

[@eduardodaquiljr9637]

Sir may I ask if it will work with 40 amperes,220v plasma machine?

[@petestools]

yea

[@tawakoni56]

pete thanks for your vids. I used the wire from drag tip then connected to ground clamp. Worked great but it seemed to have messed with the machine. I restarted it and all was well again. Any thoughts sir?

[@petestools]

It reset ,like i said i have only used it this way with my machine.cheers pete

[@tawakoni56]

@@petestools thanks pete

[@patrocman4818]

So you ran green wire to ground clamp and after resetting machine no other issues?? Im about to try this

[@mehmeteroglu3952]

Great! Thank you.

[@petestools]

Glad you liked it!

[@momostayzanko2078]

Many thanks dear

[@petestools]

Most welcome

[@hernanmarchese7]

Hello Pete, pt80 torch gives better Quality cut? , Thanks for yours videos

[@petestools]

Yes it does , but consumables a bit more expensive cheers

[@rofiq5877]

Are such modifications safe for plasma cutters that do not use pilot arc?

[@petestools]

Well that's just what I do .You must decide for yourself.

[@feednspeed1835]

Love it !!

[@petestools]

cool thanks cheers from nz

[@fryscountrylifechannel4437]

Brilliant

[@petestools]

thanks

[@huntridesail]

Have you had any issues running this on an HF machine without resistors or caps or anything? Once it is lit and you have cut some steel does it stay lit as long as you have the trigger pressed? Seems like the HF start could stop trying to start it once an arc is made but seems like it might only stop the HF circuit once you are cutting. Typically HF start only runs long enough to get the arc started or to restart a lost arc. Also do you notice any additional wear to the inside of the tip or to the electrode from using it like this? Thanks

[@petestools]

once its lit and you start cutting it just reverts to the drag tip as if you are just cutting like normal ,The only difference is you cut start a cut without cleaning the steel first.

[@huntridesail]

@@petestools So let's say I want to cut some painted grate or mesh like material..... Would it stay lit the whole time? Also, you said something about it working well on thin stuff. Does the cutter still function the same while cutting as it did before the mod regardless of the thickness of the material?

[@huntridesail]

@@petestools I am really tempted to buy a cheaper cut-50 with HF start and add a little terminal that is wired internally to the clamp connection. Then I can swap the torch for an AG-60 with pilot start connection and save some money 💰.

[@ozciva]

Finaly I found it. I am planning to do the same thing with my cut50 non-pilot arc plasma cutter. But I want to order just the p80 head, without the hose/cable and fit that to my old pt-81 torch's cable. Would that be possible? Are the heads interchangeable? Thanks.

[@petestools]

Hi it has the same fittings as the pt-31 torch

[@rayhughes8240]

Hi I want to do the same. Did you buy the P80 head and how did it go with your cut 50?

[@kiwiaus]

where in NZ are you from mate, I'm living in OZ but a JAFFA ..... Mangere

[@petestools]

lol cool , am in chch

[@sipthewater]

You cannot just go and buy a box of bits and pieces. Have to build your own or get lucky at some sale.

[@petestools]

Or collect junk like me lol

[@kernowcoinringscornishcoin3999]

Yeeeepeeee 👍

[@petestools]

cheers

[@nelsonsantos770]

Good informative video but I could barely understand what you're saying!

[@petestools]

KIWI accent maybe ?

[@lukeskywalker7566]

Nice one I now have a fantastic pilot arc torch due to your knowledge Pete cheers mate from the uk

[@petestools]

Very cool!