Pilot Loses Visibility In Sandstorm

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Etihad Airbus A320 landing into sandstorm
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[@CapStar362]

The UPS Landing A300 is a special condition, due to the fact the UPS Ramp is actually behind them if they land and pass Taxiway Kilo Kilo. If that happens, there is no viable turn off that would allow them to vacate the runway quickly. they would have to exit at Papa 1 high speed or Papa 2 High Speed, taxi down Papa all the way back to X-Ray, Cross 10/28C back onto Kilo Kilo just to get back to their ramp, so a Special Condition is allowed for UPS Flights to make a max power effort to stop and make the turn at Kilo Kilo if they can do it without having to actually completely turn around. That is also a lot of fuel burned off to taxi down, turn off, taxi back to, cross the runway again and make into the ramp. So they are taught to make the best effort of a short landing run on the 28C side landings to make their turn off.

[@camerone397]

interesting, thanks for the context

[@CapStar362]

@@camerone397 yeah, if you look at the map of O'Hare on OSM or even google maps, the UPS Ramp access taxiway is right there just a few thousand from the 28C Threshold and you can see, if you miss that Kilo Kilo turn off, you are having to run down the runway, turn off at Papa 1 or 2 High Speed, turn back down Papa, to X-Ray, wait to cross 28/10C back onto Kilo Kilo, then onto Sierra, Romeo Romeo, and into the South East Cargo Ramp. Its exactly 3560 Feet from the threshold to the center point of the X-Ray/Kilo Kilo - Runway 28/10C intersection . so yeah, its a SHORT landing attempt for sure for a A300 loaded down with cargo.

[@KuostA]

what do you mean by 'special condition', by who?

[@kukajin9560]

@@KuostAprobably the airport comitee, it’s generally not a good idea to do max power stops like that with brake wear, most airports are standard but obviously there’s standout cases. So they get approved for special cases as they appear.

[@PN_48]

Thanks for the info!

[@Frobozzz]

Wow you paid back the 6 seconds you owed us last time

[@paulis7319]

I only see 5 extra seconds. Maybe the next video will have 1 more

[@BwInNewJersey]

Old lame joke.

[@analogman9697]

I was going to hire an attorney...

[@SkyHighGOAT]

no it’s 6

[@paulis7319]

@@SkyHighGOAT It shows 5 on my end, on all my devices.

[@kwd-2023]

I hear that dust storm sand is great for ingesting into the engines!

[@Jeeve_Stobs]

Yes, it helps keep the turbine blades sharp.

[@gerrycorbino66]

I was thinking landing in a sandstorm cannot be good for the engines.

[@CapStar362]

the engines are fine, they are tested for this when they are first built.

[@analogman9697]

Those engines have to be ruined I would think.

[@djespo69]

Dammit, I was gonna say that

[@timothypaul984]

I LOVE these POV landing clips. Also, what a nice contrast between the A320 FBW sidestick and the good ol' traditional yoke on the 747. ❤

[@se-kmg355]

*Sidestick

[@Inflight777]

That emirates a380 maneuvering to land looks like the kai tak approach

[@kreterakete]

Good old days at Kai tak. Great memories.

[@athgt6630]

​@@kreteraketeirreplaceable.

[@Imlegitthatonedude]

​@@kreterakete Iconic.

[@c0r1nth14n_]

The Nice (LFNC?) published approachs look quite spectacular on the charts, a lot of circling. 😅

[@2373stevieb]

First pilot: “Any idea where the bloody exit is?”

[@akhtarkhanbaloch6365]

When the plane take its last breath.

[@flyingmyles]

Wow simply stunning videos! That's a380 in France, what an amazing approach. 747s will be forever missed!

[@trainwreck3697]

Couldn't ask for better quality video of the Emirates in the last clip

[@chrismann-ht6qt]

Always banging vids uploaded by three minutes of aviation

[@TomPauls007]

All the turbine blades are nice and shiny like new again!

[@hilman94]

and sharper 😁

[@kennethcohagen3539]

In 1972 we flew back to Ohio to see my Grandparents. But when we flew back home to Phoenix we arrived in the middle of a dust storm. The plane eased down until maybe 15 to 20 feet off the runway, then a wind gust blew it up on one side. I looked out the window and all I could see was tarmac and dust. The other side of the plane saw nothing but dust. The pilot throttled up and got the hell out of there, flying on to Tucson until the storm had gone. Thst was scary from my perspective. It must have been worse for the pilot to pull off a climb like he did!

[@0xf7c8]

No. They were not scared because they are pofessionally trained to perform those types of manouvers.

[@dogsbyfire]

This is a superb channel. Love the POV from the cockpit. Thank you!

[@MrOllieBD]

Lovely camera work on the A380 visual approach!

[@akio.350]

Great to see a POV view of a 747 landing!

[@RataCall3jera]

Great vid!!

[@TYPHOON55155]

Great content

[@60gregma]

Ingesting all that sand into the engines can't be good for them.

[@IBM29]

I'll wager the fan blades are nice and shiny now...

[@3aster]

@@IBM29 i live in Saudi, sometimes i go for off road in the dunes 50 km nearby, the underside of my car (chasses, gearbox..etc) always looks bran new when i get home

[@dalar2]

The UPS must have got a BREMBO brake disc upgrade 🤣🤣

[@DrStrange1000]

I'm fortunate enough to visit nice, France often and see the low approaches. 👌🏼

[@Timmycoo]

The first 2 clips of great landings I was worried I clicked on the wrong video channel lol :P Nah but forreal these were great. That sandstorm was nuts.

[@andymanaus1077]

The plane needed another coat of paint anyhow.

[@Lesloi6227]

Another fantastic vid full of great content.

[@3MinutesofAviation]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@tiemji]

Nice set of clips!

[@RobertCraft-re5sf]

I can ever get over just how massive the A380 is. I love the 747 and Boeing more, though.

[@Iconday]

What a nice pilot for do a perfect land with that weather

[@ryanfrisby7389]

Great video!😸

[@wordreet]

Jeez! Sand was nasty!

[@Deionburns114]

Nice video

[@christopherch7307]

❤y'alls content

[@airbus12345]

Nice video!

[@3MinutesofAviation]

Thanks!

[@user-hd1kq2ge3q]

You are great bro

[@Republic3D]

The UPS fat bus landing with heavy brakes and reversers was kind of impressive. Reminds me of C-130 and A400 tactical landings.

[@Vlogstafy]

That UPS A300 was acting like what FSX AI traffic acts like after landing xD

[@TicTaxx]

I am genuinely impressed the engines can cope with sand like that

[@apegues]

Those sandstorms really tear the engines up

[@moviemetropolis]

Our flight to Cape Verde was delayed 48 hours due to a sandstorm in January. It still hadn’t fully cleared when we flew in, an unusual experience!

[@MohJam]

Landing in a dust storm... Man that has to be a nightmare for maintenance crews... that stuff will be everywhere in that air-frame and engines... Not to mention Dust storms a worse than fog, as it's a mix of wind-sheer and low viability... Kudos for the pilots keeping cool heads.

[@BHRoadStoriesBH]

Very nice 👍👍🌹❤❤❤❤

[@Frydee123]

1:51 I always find it crazy how fast planes can actually stop if you absolutely hammer on the brakes

[@smcdonald9991]

Pretty sure Nice Airport is built on reclaimed land - both ends of the runway end in the Mediterranean Sea. Macau Airport is similar.

[@Kdschaak]

He was jerking around that side stick like it was a game of Pac-Man.

[@feelincrispy7053]

Damn he stomped on those brakes!

[@wesleycardinal8869]

I've never seen a plane attempt a stoppie before 👍

[@billb7876]

That sandstorm one suddenly got a bit lairy, well done the crew

[@deamn7965]

Hmm.. great good idea to manually fly a low visibility approach, and then share the video with the world! Those mid and end RVR’s were definitely below cat1..

[@Twobarpsi]

First clip.. is all that sidestick movement necessary? A bit to frantic if you ask me. PIO level 1000.

[@amaarse]

I am a bit puzzled by the wild joystick input during the airbus lading. Can the control surfaces follow these rapid inputs? Isn't it better to smooth out your thoughts a bit before transfering them to the aircraft?

[@jah5r]

Depending on the “Law” he was in, it’s completely useless. In normal law, you command a roll rate with left/right deflection with a maximum of 15° per sec. For the most part he was canceling out his inputs before they had time to take effect. Direct law is more traditional but that only happens when multiple control systems are lost. This was still a ton of movement even in direct law for how little the plane was moving. He was churning butter for sure.

[@bayaweg7223]

The A380 approach into Nice isnt a visual approach - its an RNP approach onto 22L/22R. The autopilot is used and the fmgc is able to guide the aircraft down to line up with the runway 👍🏼

[@IAmTheShaz]

0:36 oof those poor engines ingesting all that sand.

[@BrianAchterberg928]

1:52 He got hard on the brakes to turn off the runway quickly because he had another aircraft close behind him that was landing too.

[@kevindigo22]

Do they report RVR and use Cat-III autolandings in dust storms?

[@TheBierp]

Surprised at how much play there is in the stick on that A320.

[@johnandrews3568]

My thoughts too... and yet the aircraft was fully stabilized.

[@sh230968]

The aircraft knows that pilots are a little nervous at that stage of the flight. So, loud stick input is not taken seriously.

[@jtirello3_111]

The side-to-side stick movement made it look like he didn’t flare, but the smooth landing says otherwise.

[@Kitt_the_Katt]

Fly by wire. There is as much play as the computer decides is appropriate

[@nicopeursum8208]

He made way too large and short inputs. The A320 only needs small, deliberate inputs

[@TexJester-no8th]

1:21 Egyptair looked like he might have caught a bit of wind shear and it dropped him. (I'm a long haul trucker, not a pilot, so if I'm wrong, please be gentle ......)

[@jamess5415]

Egypt showing Ryan they can do it more aggressively

[@shaurya.m2612]

Btw UPS has the policy to deliver as fast as they can, they pay extra fines for parking in no parkings and have no door on their cars for fast delivery. They have pre-planned routes.

[@smrtkscm]

Where is our beloved Aerosucre? No video is complete without them!

[@RichardLeo-mf3zb]

The Egyptair reminds me of a Ryanair landing.

[@GG_Booboo]

Who else finds the voice of the cockpit computer man so captivating 😂

[@jtirello3_111]

Egyptair pilot auditioning for Ryanair job.

[@christieabarrett3219]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Kevin-CitationXL]

Bro took you long enough to land!!

[@Aviator27J]

Must've had decent RVR on touchdown but that midpoint and rollout probably looked bad.

[@michaelchenal5288]

any info about how many G-force the A320 has encountered?

[@rockkitty100]

can you imagine what that sand storm does to the engines and paint???

[@hpygolkyone]

The French Riviera beach looks packed! "Yea, I'm just at the beach with 300,000 of my closest friends. How's things back home? Quiet, you say?"

[@chax0208]

Im really surprised by the amount of sidestick movement on the landing

[@paulf1071]

Am I seeing a laser pointed at the Egypt A320 at 1:27? Maybe it's just a dirty camera lens...??

[@joec2442]

All that sand sucked in !

[@stevegregory2867]

Great viewing,is it possible to make the videos in to 5 minutes please?

[@cowsonahill]

Where is the video at 0:52 from?

[@chybagus]

Isn't that how Tenerife happened? Not being able to see down the runway is a bad idea...

[@Zander10102]

That first clip is stickwork olympics

[@johngrant6721]

How much did the bloke from qantas slip ya to add the ‘skilled’ adjective to his description?

[@coasternut3091]

If you can't hand fly the plane, you can't fly the plane

[@aerodaan]

Full reverersers in a sandstorm? 😮🤔

[@ronparrish6666]

Plane is now sand plasted what color should we paint it now

[@sh230968]

Sandblasting is the right term.

[@Connection-Lost]

Darude is a helluva drug

[@Mahme343]

Yeho

[@seamusblack5876]

1:37 Wind Shear

[@RayBarrera]

Song??

[@gamaloun4442]

That Etihad A320 pilot is a perfect example of Pilot induced oscillation! Way way too active on the side stick

[@scottwhitmire6577]

My 3 Munites seem to be more than 12 in multiples o 3

[@johnrivera6951]

Storm

[@bartoni79]

Do qantas still fly 747s?

[@ivanb52]

last one retired July 2020

[@tenpiloto]

That first one in the sandstorm would have been an excellent time to use autoland/auto brakes.

[@lolitoelpiloto]

LVP not in forced, so no Autoland possible, and AutoBrake where at Medium😊

[@danstinson7687]

Volcanoe ash messes with engines, how about sand?

[@idunnoanymore2870]

You think the sandstorm would damage the engines!

[@AnonymousNyanCat-qg6bb]

We have on-screen radar. But, still, limited visibility.

[@superseries7007]

Those poor engines in sand. 😭😭😭

[@verabolton]

2:20 How do you know it was a visual approach?

[@bayaweg7223]

It's not - it's an RNP (RNAV) approach

[@verabolton]

@@bayaweg7223 How do you know?

[@bayaweg7223]

@@verabolton I am a commercial pilot who is based in Nice - I fly into there every day. It's a coded RNP approach so you can keep the autopilot engaged and it will guide you around the bay and it lines you up with the runway 👍🏼 it's a spectacular approach and it's amazing to see how far the technology has come!

[@verabolton]

@@bayaweg7223 I know what RNP approach is. But how do you know what's going on in this cockpit?

[@slidefirst694]

I will buy stock in Sand Storm Gold.

[@oliver.1058]

does etihad have A320?? i just thinks etihad on A350 and A380

[@MrSchwabentier]

Yes they do. A321 as well

[@chuckles3265]

The plane was a bit harsh on the for flying into a sandstorm

[@basemmehdi8465]

Handskilled , really

[@johncameron4194]

Ups time is money

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Yikes, cannot be good for the engines or plane in general Wonder how long engines last in repeated sand-ingestion?

[@jasonw98]

Hey google, play sandstorm by darude

[@azizmoustaid909]

🙏🙏🙏💙💙💪💪

[@WingWarnings]

Very dangerous

[@saxpert]

So landing by hand is now a skill?

[@carlospetry2316]

It´s always been. Most landings are done this way! It´s a skill because computers are still not able to judge and decide, as pilots are. So yeah... it´s a skill. Why wouldn´t it be?

[@TheImperialChannel]

*I'd worry if that had been Aerosucre landing in that sandstorm.*

[@JediKnyghte]

Aren’t all Aerosucre landings worrisome?

[@jtirello3_111]

I’d like to see Aerosucre do one of their patented overweight-using-every-inch-of-runway takeoffs in a sandstorm… while listening to Sandstorm!

[@JohnSmithShields]

​@@JediKnyghtejust the ones with the tearing metal sounds.