Pilot pissed off the controller. Runway incursion. REAL ATC

[@frankgrimesification]

Legend has it that this pilot is still trying to copy the clearance correctly.

[@stevenjones618]

No he is still on a 120 heading at 2ooo looking for fbo for fuel..

[@Randrew]

I was a little surprised that he didn't argue with the controller that his downloaded flight plan must be the right one.

[@adotintheshark4848]

@@stevenjones618 He's stuck on CLOROX, no BOTOX, no BOSOX now he has me doing it

[@dalegreer3095]

LOL! This would be a great running gag in a comedy movie about general aviation. Just every 10-20 minutes go back to 30 seconds of this guy "...okay NORWOOD THREE DEPARTURE..."

[@Kay_Blanco]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@sam04019491]

In this situation, this pilot should just write it all down, walk back to the briefing room, have a coffee, sort his route out, get his charts, brief the SID, brief the expected taxi route, take a breath, then head back out to his plane and start again.

[@kevinmoore4265]

That would have been the smart thing instead of figuring it out in route.

[@gordo1163]

He can do that but would still cause a runway incursion trying to take off. I suggest he just take an uber to wherever he needs to go.

[@Shadow__133]

Probably best to hire a competent CFI to revisit his life's goals after this one 😆

[@edwardbarrett5691]

@sam04019491 I agree with everything up to the point of briefing something that is “expected”. Unless you know exactly what you’re getting/doing, don’t brief it. In my opinion it can easily lead to doing something you aren’t cleared for, confirmation bias and confusion.

[@JC130676]

Small correction: " this pilot should just write it all down, walk back to the briefing room, have a coffee, sort his route out, get his charts, brief the SID, brief the expected taxi route, take a breath, and find someone else to fly the plane."

[@bmacd2112]

I can't believe they let this guy take off at all.

[@thedigitalpeople]

Truth.... ATC: I need you to u-turn at runway 10 and go back on taxi A to Norwood and make another RIGHT at Charlie and go head and shut the aircraft down. Once shut down I'll have a number for you to copy.

[@Sorarse]

I think they were probably glad to get rid of him and make him someone else's problem. All joking aside, I would have serious concerns over a pilot demonstrating an apparent lack of ability.

[@robertkoowalski1014]

FAA regulations really lacks in situation like this. What should be obligatory is for tower to announce: “Attention all traffic! Mayday, mayday mayday! N57DB is in the air. Everybody run wherever you can. This is NOT an exercise!!!”

[@innocentanderson2830]

@@robertkoowalski1014 🤣🤣🤣

[@MarkMcDaniel]

@Robert Koowalski -- Same warning should apply on the ground with mentally inept drivers.

[@Taylor-hd5co]

As someone with a little over 40 hours now, and a student, I have mixed feelings after this. 1.) My mistakes don't feel so bad now, 2.) people like this are flying around me at any moment.

[@SuperTrb0]

Yeah but you’re a student, you’re expected to make mistakes. This guy is in an SR22 on a long IFR plan through multiple crowded airways and he can’t follow simple directions. He should be able to follow simple runway and taxiway directions. Something is funky with this guy.

[@ParadigmUnkn0wn]

This is why I eventually hope to own a kerosene burner someday, so I can cruise up in the flight levels away from most, but unfortunately not all, of the fools like this.

[@ivanv754]

@@ParadigmUnkn0wn a kerosene burner, that’s a new one for me!

[@billcallahan9303]

That and a lot worse Taylor.

[@xplayman]

Spot on! As a student myself, I stopped looking up to pilots in general and instead pay attention to the right people. I’ve had my fill of watching all kinds of mistakes in less than 50 hours in the NY area. I watched a pilot try to land on a closed runway with a giant lit up X and construction vehicles on it. Even after a couple people said the airport was closed. I had another aircraft in the pattern at my home airport interfere with a neighboring airport’s pattern (two separate occasions). And on my first solo I had another aircraft cut me off on final at a towered airport putting them only within a few hundred feet in front if me. There’s more things but these are the ones that alert me to how you can only trust yourself. Just like when you drive on the road.

[@captainjohnh9405]

Wow, 9 minutes to get a clearance followed by a runway incursion. That controller deserves a drink after that shift.

[@DavidWsTrainVideos]

Don’t forget he made another wrong turn after that. Yikes!!!!

[@3rdandlong]

I would have reported him if that was me in tower. Sounded like the dude was on meds that mess with his comprehension abilities. Automatic cause for grounding him or denying takeoff.

[@brianwhitley1053]

That controller deserves a drink after that CONTACT!! :)

[@3rdandlong]

@@brianwhitley1053 Where's Kennedy Steve when you need him?

[@bkvdpw]

@@3rdandlong Somehow I don't think this would have gone on quite this long with him on the near end. 😄

[@irabourstein]

We can't really say that ALL of his decision making was flawed. In fact, paying extra for a plane with a parachute was downright brilliant.

[@tf51d]

He keeps this up he'll need it more sooner then later!

[@captaind6178]

2:20..."I don't know if you need a full read back"???? Are you freaking kidding me??? This guy should NOT be in an airplane, period.

[@RichWellner]

Yeah, that's was amazing.

[@tylerwisniowski5825]

To be fair he could of said copy all squaking I forget the squad they gave but that

[@ffemtx4]

This guy wasted MORE time (ATC's and his own) by trying to SAVE time by not reading back. 🤦‍♂️🤬🤯

[@zlcoolboy]

Just give a read back. I find it annoying that people have issues relaying information over the radio. It should really be a standard thing everyone learns in school.

[@CreamCobblerFiend]

There has never been a situation where a full read was more appropriate

[@tylerjamesth47]

As a flight instructor I will be showing this to my students as what not to do, never be this guy. Scary to think he’s flying around among us. How in the world did he not even get a phone number just blows my mind

[@titaniumlegs]

I was wondering why he didn't get a phone number. And if he even has a current medical.

[@eat_a_dick_trudeau]

You think he could actually use a phone?

[@frankgrimesification]

It would probably take him 45 minutes to copy the phone number down correctly.

[@costaricanaturephotography3027]

I'm just glad he made the wise choice and got a plane with a parachute.

[@mikeperry2814]

He'd hit the ground before he finished following the directions to pull the parachute handle!

[@stevegiboney4493]

@@mikeperry2814 😂😂😂

[@Glofilter]

That guy has no business flying IFR. Period.

[@VictoryAviation]

Agreed 100%

[@hokiepilot4286]

Agreed. Probably has no business flying VFR either.

[@VictoryAviation]

@@hokiepilot4286 Of all planes, a cirrus is pretty quick compared to a lot of other lower performance planes. It’s easy to get behind the aircraft.

[@jonesjones7057]

@@VictoryAviation he's behind the aircraft while it's standing still.

[@VictoryAviation]

@@jonesjones7057 Truth

[@bradowen761]

There is no amount of money that would sufficiently entice me to be this guy's passenger.

[@timsmith2525]

I don't like the fact that he might be flying over me.

[@bradowen761]

I will say this though... the controller left out Norwich on her second readout. So at least that one wasn't on him during the second readback.

[@roscoejones4515]

The sad part is that most pax won't question his qualifications, or really have any way of checking even if they are curious. They'll just be excited to go on an airplane ride.

[@QFWP]

Yes, you'd say "my plane" after the first runway excursion and fly the route to show him how it's done!

[@TheYealoChannel]

​@@QFWP Lol I was gonna say, It'd be okay as long as you were prepared to take over

[@mattym8]

I think I’ve memorized that routing after so many repeats. He’s not writing anything down. He’s trying to program his G1000 in real time as the controller reads it out! Holy shit, I can’t imagine doing that. Tying up the freq all morning like it’s nothing.

[@blindsight_music_]

not even. he’s already got it in, and is just looking to see if it’s correct. he couldn’t even identify that it wasn’t.

[@brunoais]

I'd try to figure out a way to record the clearance (as sound) and then play back to me as many times as I need for me to punch it to the G1000. My hand writing isn't something I'm glad of...

[@mattym8]

@@brunoais that’s not practical. You learn shorthand for clearances and it gets easy to copy them with practice.

[@brunoais]

@@mattym8 Yes. After some practice, I'd do that. For now, I'd use a recording I can pause, play and go back as much as I need :) I can try using the shorthands on paper too to learn the process in the meantime too.

[@thomasdalton1508]

@@brunoais You can't sit there for ages replaying it to yourself while the controller is waiting for the readback.

[@Dr_Kenneth_Noisewater]

He’s not copying it down, he’s trying to punch it into the box in real time. That is NOT how it works. Write it down. Heck many pilots record their clearance or even get it via email from Foreflight. This pilot may be “current” in the strict legal sense but he is very far from proficient in all respects. He needs massive retraining.

[@donwald3436]

Yeah it really does sound like he's fumbling around with a computer.

[@Hondaridr58]

You can get a clearance via email?

[@erich2312]

@@Hondaridr58 For general aviation, pilots nowadays usually get a pre-route from ForeFlight,if they use it, and usually get an update from ForeFlight if the route changes from what they originally filed for. For the airlines, we still operate somewhat old school. We have a paper document with our filed route and if the airport does not have digital ATIS we call clearance or ground for our clearance, normally abbreviated to as filed. If an airport has digital ATIS we can use the ACARS computer to receive a digital clearance. (Usually larger airports like in Chicago or at cargo hubs)

[@Hondaridr58]

@@erich2312 Ah. Its not a clearance, it's more of a "here's what you can expect you clearance to look like". I took the OP's comment as him saying there was a way to actually to receive your clearance electronically via email from foreflight, like you would with ACARS.

[@Dr_Kenneth_Noisewater]

@@Hondaridr58 No the actual clearance only comes from ATC but you can have the route already in the box and written down so that all you gotta do is note any last second changes.

[@TraceeRae]

I kept waiting for the the pilot to say “Forget it, I’ll just drive.”

[@matrixtc6077]

"I don't know if you need a full read back or not." Dude, always read back ATCs instructions.

[@billcallahan9303]

He got his instrument license at a trucking school in Ypsilanti, Michigan class of 1946. This is after 75 years of experience. A huge improvement. The clearance he got in '46 on his check ride lasted two and a half days. He ran out of gas at the FBO 14 times.

[@avfan967]

Nope, ATP flight academy! And to think the same students are the future airline pilots. Scary sheet isn’t it?

[@billcallahan9303]

@@avfan967 Laughing out Loud AVFAN! Yes, I've known quite a few myself over the past 55 years. Scary indeed. Great & very truthful comment. Watch: Bush Pilot Sudan. You'll like it, relates to people like this at times. Funny too! Mine.

[@avfan967]

@@billcallahan9303 I’ll check it out. PS Have you listen to the Mitsubishi pilot that went into Henderson last week?

[@billcallahan9303]

@@avfan967 i found it. Thanks!

[@cptnbennett]

Very funny Bill Callahan

[@craigmcallister2310]

Letting this guy take off is like getting married to fix your relationship problems.

[@trymetal95]

if i was the controller i'd just want him gone from my airport

[@HappyGoLucky20]

I’m triggered

[@svenskanorsk]

Lol

[@Shawn47]

Legend has it he's still circling South Boston to this day trying to figure out his waypoints.

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

Until he runs out of fuel

[@RetroJack]

This is the guy ahead of you in the checkout who takes 2 minutes to find his chequebook, then another 5 minutes to write it out, then realises that he forgot an item at the other end of the store.

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

Perfect.

[@anthonynorman3924]

I'm a CFII and listing to this dude read back the clearance was incredibly frustrating. Not to mention the runway incursion. This dude needs an IPC or a 709 ride.

[@mattym8]

Or needs to hand in his IFR rating and fly VFR.

[@Heathfx5]

Needs to be suspended until he can pass a checkride. This guy is either incredibly rusty, on drugs or has lost serious mental capacity to the point where he is totally unfit to fly. This guy his going to death spiral in IMC then drop onto a house and kill an entire family some day.

[@jamesspurgeon2791]

709 Ride for his safety and others

[@systemloc]

For real!! Does not sound like he ever had an instrument rating! Also, that controller did the most amazing job on a slow and clear annunciation of the clearance. I've never had a clearance read so slow and nice. Looking at the FAA registration data, plane was registered in April, so new plane to pilot too. I'm betting this is a brand new pilot in a brand new Cirrus. Very safe.

[@grj512]

This was so painful to listen to. 🤦

[@edwardrichardson5567]

For safety reason, as ATC, I would have canceled his flight plan and denied this pilot of taxiing. How in the world did this guy get his Instrument Ticket?

[@johng4954]

Can you imagine if he had to fly an approach

[@dafox0427]

@@johng4954 It's pretty apparent that the autopilot does all the work for him.

[@josephhaas7413]

Lol I’m surprised that if he’s so rusty on this shit, that he would’ve even been able to pass an IPC

[@blindsight_music_]

@@dafox0427 even just using the autopilot with a g1000 requires way more competence than this.

[@X50505]

If you did actually work in ATC you would know that you don't have the authority to do that.

[@tomnguyen8546]

The best part is in the beginning he's doing all this over the tower freq 😂

[@MagnumOpusSRT]

This guy has an license? So many fundamental mistakes.

[@bcmfin]

My thoughts exactly, sounds a little incapable. He should have called it a day when he couldn't get his clearance straight. It's no wonder there's so many KZbin videos plowing in somewhere.

[@Eric-oj5sj]

Fairly standard Cirrus pilot.

[@Randrew]

@@Eric-oj5sj Yeah, I think this pilot is a fair representative of his cohort and why Cirrus got an early and undeserved reputation for crashing :|

[@juston3688]

This controller sounds so done by the time he gets to runway 10 lol

[@cbufffly]

@@bcmfin He sounded pretty unsure and confused. Time to spend some ground time with a CFII and then a couple of flights as well. Better refreshed than dead.

[@tinderbox218]

I'm not a pilot but this has me flashing back to years I spent a job doing tech support. The customers who would refuse to follow my step-by-step instructions because they're smarter than I am, yet claim to be following my instructions ("oh yeah I did that"), and still nothing was working for them. Then after endless struggle to get an honest answer out of them I'd discover that their computer wasn't plugged in or whatever because they'd skipped Step 1.

[@LIVE4040]

Like any tech support personnel fighting w/folks who don’t realize the computer needs to be plugged in, this guy should have been directed to carefully remove the plane key, step out of the plane, and get mechanics to box up the plane for return…

[@user-ik4br3nk2w]

so you're the guy that says "have you tried restarting the modem?" yet it never solves the problem

[@davidgipe997]

​@@user-ik4br3nk2wI had concerned feelings at your "Working\Processing" swirls :D too many connection issues .

[@A.J.1656]

Guess who's getting a kneeboard and a pen for his birthday.... lol

[@coryturner9140]

😂😂

[@frmphxaz84]

I'd like to be the first to wish the pilot of N57DB happy 83rd birthday.🎂

[@battheman777]

Thank goodness this ATC kept requiring full readback. I feel like she did everything she could to help him. I'm curious why no pilot deviation?

[@wgeffon]

My guess is no traffic conflict and the controller was being generous. I feel bad for the guy. Hopefully he contacted a CFI or someone he knows to get some one on one time and go over instrument procedures. We were all new at one point. I have messed up my share of things in the cockpit. Learned from each one of them.

[@sgttc15]

I'm sure there was a report but the minimal traffic made it easy to recognize and file.

[@VisibilityFoggy]

Deep down she probably just felt bad for him...

[@teribaker5833]

@@wgeffon Except he certainly didn’t sound “new”, a least not age-wise. It’s possible he was new to flying, but only if he took it up as a retirement hobby. That said, I agree that anyone who tries something new should get the benefit of the doubt as a novice who’s still learning…but piloting a plane and committing a runway incursion is just too dangerous to be excused.

[@wgeffon]

@@teribaker5833 New pilots are simply that… new pilots. Everyone makes mistakes and when you’re new to flying, mistakes are plentiful. New or experienced, everyone shares the same airspace. This poor guy was simply over his head. Hopefully, he sought out some assistance or extra instruction somewhere. I have been flying professionally for 35 years. There is never s perfect flight. There’s always something that could have been done better. Nobody is ever on a commercial flight where it’s perfect. Too many tiny details in every flight.

[@elshpen]

And the word is that he's still out there, somewhere in the blue sky, looking for Hickory.

[@VidClips858]

You just know he's never gonna find Hickory.

[@tebelshaw9486]

Maybe not, but he's still trying.

[@THEnelsonbruhs]

Man that controller is awesome. Speaking clearly and slowly, and even spelling out fixes for him. I need a controller like that

[@tokyochannel2020]

It really sounds like instead of just writing it down he's putting it into his navigation system and editing.

[@Zorthal]

Yeah, that's what I was think. He was trying to input it into his flight computer instead of just writing it down verbatim, giving the correct read back, then inputting the route to his flight computer. Even airline pilots have a piece of paper attached to the yoke to write stuff down on.

[@Mash4096]

@@Zorthal Yeah, but you know pencil and paper is not cool anymore these days. Everything is iPads now.

[@tomnguyen8546]

@@Mash4096 he sounds like he's from pencil and paper era. He should be used to it

[@travisaudit1308]

Omg I lost it when she said your going the wrong direction again the second time.

[@Cyberguy42]

"You're already on it, so just continue" To be fair, that is an ambiguous statement, so IMHO he did the right thing (this one time at least) in clarifying whether she meant for him to "continue straight" or "go ahead and make my turn".

[@MqKosmos]

*He Not she

[@WildlifeObsessed]

Grief - that was painful. Well done ATC.

[@KDill29]

Golf Romeo India Echo Foxtrot

[@iwontreplybacklol7481]

Not well done ATC. There is zero need to ATC to scream at a pilot. Even if a pilot is literally doing everything wrong, the worst thing they can do is add stress to the situation by yelling.

[@orbemsolis]

Imagine tying up tower for a solid 4 minutes to get a clearance and still getting it wrong

[@peterbrown6224]

Imagine tying up 147K viewers wanting the incursion..

[@jonnyg6892]

I'm a student pilot, and this was painful and frustrating even for me.

[@AlaskaErik]

Controller spelled it out very carefully because she knew what a dunce this guy was. And she insisted on a readback, which the pilot should have done without question. She was definitely doing a CYA in case he didn't make it. And I don't blame her one bit for doing it.

[@AustinMarti]

So true. That's exactly what she was doing.

[@lucyk.5163]

I feel sorry for him because he remained so polite and educated during the entire conversation. You can see he's genuinely a nice guy, feeling really lost and confused for some reason. Which isn't good when you're piloting an aircraft.

[@michaelvanderweide8032]

This is the challenge of flying in New England airspace. This guy probably did most of his flying further south where you just file direct and then get a direct clearance. Had no problem doing this for years but then someone asked him to go to Boston and he thought it wouldn't be a big deal. Pilots need to understand that IFR flying in New England is an entirely different world and should preferably take someone with experience with them the first time. All CFII's should take their IFR students into busy airspace like this to give them the experience and respect for it. Years ago my IFR instructor took me over and over again through the same 4 approaches at small airports in central Illinois, got my ticket, and then had a hell of a time trying to get to the north side of Chicago by myself. Problem is that many CFII's have never been into this kind of airspace themselves so they can't teach it. You have 300hr CFII's taking their students through the same 4 approaches they learned on. CFI's and CFII's need to challenge themselves and broaden themselves to be better instructors. It also sounds like what happened is that he loaded the "expected route" from Foreflight into his iPad, then loaded the iPad route into the panel GPS. When you do that, it often shows the intermediate waypoints on the victor airways even though they aren't read out in the clearance. That is why he had extra waypoints. You have to read back ATC's clearance word for word, no matter what Foreflight or the GPS says. But now that she was reading out something different than what the automation was telling him, he was completely flummoxed.

[@dcviper985]

That's problematic because it means he probably never looked at the flight plan, never briefed it or the OWD3 sid, and was gonna be utterly lost. I just checked that Sid and it made my brain hurt because of all the if KBOS is landing this, do that instructions.

[@anthony777100]

Sometimes it's hard as a CFII to spice it up and go to different airspace and airports for different approaches. You can only do so much in one lesson and have a lot of factors that limit where you can go for a lesson.

[@flyingphobiahelp]

Dunno about that. I fly in Texas and the only time I get direct is for short IFR flights. Otherwise its the SIDs and Victors

[@Muck6969_]

You might be correct about that. I dont know, never flew there. However, I think it is inacceptable to have a license and still no be able to understand simple instructions. Sure, the SID might be complicated, but writing down a clearance and reading it back should still be something he can do.

[@davestillson2269]

These were such fundamental mistakes, this has nothing to do with being in the north east.

[@andychatton7609]

You can have thousands of hours, but you STILL need to look out for pilots exactly like this guy!

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

I am a student pilot and have already learned that you have to look out for joker pilots. It's kinda scary.

[@christophermilner1808]

He doesn't need to be driving either.

[@captaind6178]

Final thought...OK, I'm of a certain age when we had Jeppesen charts, actual pieces of paper. In a binder. Heavy, hated them ..but? Now those same "charts", relevant navigation references are downloaded onto an iPad. Every week we got "revisions" and had to spend time throwing away old pages for the updated ones. Now? It's downloaded instantly. This guy in a remarkably advanced airplane, is simply over his head dealing with the technology. He has NO business flying.

[@craigmcallister2310]

This guy gets to fly and I'm stuck here on my simulator...

[@DrLumpyDMus]

You're stuck?

[@nihilistichris8609]

It makes you wonder if all incursions should result in a return, shut the plane off, talk to tower and only then proceed, gives the pilot a chance to get his stress levels down and start with a clean slate, this type of high stress/confusion levels straight into flight is a breeding ground for simple mistakes.

[@straxwb]

I was expecting a number to call, ATC was definetly too kind to him.

[@CoffeeMatt10]

He’d get the number wrong too

[@itssoeasy5536]

@@CoffeeMatt10 , brilliant!

[@DrLumpyDMus]

You think it would be a good practice for ATC to be unkind to pilots who are having difficulty?

[@PilotandPaddler]

@@CoffeeMatt10 Damn you! Now I have gatoraid all over my keyboard!

[@repatch43]

I can understand getting a bit confused, but not being able to get the routing correct after so many tries makes me wonder if he should have been permitted to even take off. I guess they don’t have the power to stop him? The runway incursion certainly should have been the last straw?

[@mattym8]

I suppose she could refuse to give a takeoff clearance. Never seen it though.

[@pdrg]

Could it be an old guy with new tech? I mean I would write the routing down on paper as given, read back, look at the chart, and taxi, but it sounded as if he was trying to enter the data into something and it was getting all mixed up. Could be one great pilot in the skies.

[@repatch43]

@@pdrg That could be, but I'd suggest LEARNING the system properly before putting your life on the line?

[@ed4all33]

@@pdrg ok lets say that was the case , but TWO wrong turns ....whoa.

[@gordo1163]

@@pdrg That doesn't explain the runway incursion though.

[@andrewwestbrook3470]

I love the confusion/contempt in the Boston-accented controllers voice when reading "South Boston" for SBV.

[@Sebastopolmark]

"Approach 57 DB, where am I??" That was painful to listen to. I do hope the incursion was reported and the FAA listened to this audio. CUDOS to the controller, much more patience than most! !! !!!

[@erauprcwa]

2:40 at this point, it's very clear, he's not writing any of this down. Just as a test, I wrote down the clearance, without looking at the screen. Barring a few spelling issues, I got it down. What is it with some pilots not writing down the clearance as it's being read by control? *EDIT* OMG this dude sucks! It was clear he barely wrote anything down and relied on his nav system to read the clearance for him. He basically asked the controller to read the chart to him (which is something you can do but in this case WTF). The runway incursion, wrong taxiway... Also, it's funny, but he never read his full takeoff clearance. I'm sure the controller at that point was like, dude just leave!

[@kehreazerith3016]

This control had a lot of patience but the second he started crossing onto the runway and making wrong turns they could no longer hold back

[@markwilson2992]

Jesus, I'm a retired controller and I wouda lost my mind with this guy. No time for this. He doesn't sound like he's competent to fly.

[@MrDumile]

Aww c'mon grandpa...maybe its time to re-evaluate the whole flying thing now. Its been a blast but now its time to chill on the ground and tell stories

[@RandyBaumery-s4i]

Agreed!!!

[@soco2020]

People like this are allowed to continue to fly while people that were sad for 5 minutes ten years ago can't get a license.

[@BetreutesSchrauben]

Oh my, hope he made it. Sounds like a rather old fella which was kind of confused over the waypoints first which got him so puzzled the taxi went as seen here.

[@bs838]

No fucking business in an airplane let alone a car. Jesus. The hubris of these geriatrics

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

He needs to give up his airplane

[@Stitchwitchstitch]

“Yes ma’am. Sorry.” You can hear the shame in his voice, poor guy. I could NOT do atc; I can hardly remember to direct myself from the kitchen to the litter boxes without getting distracted.

[@kolsen6330]

Surprised the tower didnt tell him to park, shut down and go to the office to refile his flight plan because he is obviously unable to do it over the radio. This guy is just amazing.

[@TitaniumTurbine]

I have little doubt that he will one day be flying VFR, land on an interstate, park his plane on an off ramp and then contact ground to ask why there are all these cars on the runway.

[@brenthendricks8182]

Wow... She was foaming at the mouth there, and didn't even give him a number?!

[@wraithconscience]

I've been critical of ATCs that go into "scold mode" when pilots make mistakes. Intead of scolding and moralizing, ATCSs should just give pilots vector and altitute to get to safety and discuss any mistakes later. But my heart goes out to this ATC big time. She maintained her cool, raised her voice only to get pilot's attention, and brought it back down and was professional just at the right moments. BRAVO !!! That poor pilot -- I hope he survives out there ! (He was a bit "slow", but he was polite and respectful and got it right in the end.) Kudos to ATC for keeping her cool and seeing him through !!! That is exactly what an ATC should do, even if it is frustrating. Good job, ATC !!!

[@Transit67F2]

"a bit slow" !? he was glacial...maybe oxygen depletion on ramp

[@kyleduffy2177]

Saying that ATC should “just give vectors and altitudes” to pilots who aren’t competent enough to copy a clearance is about the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

I am a student pilot and have been scolded by ground from a minor mistake as a student pilot. Responded to a very similar tail number with Mike in it. Opps. Ground chewed me out. I was scared to talk to ground after that but I was lucky he left on break and I had another ground guy to speak to after the run-up.

[@Martin-od2hr]

I don’t like when people say just give vectors to someone who is supposed to have an instrument rating. Like don’t make the atc job harder because you didn’t study IFR enough it’s not the towers fault you’re trying to fly in ifr conditions when you barely know how to communicate properly

[@calebniederhofer6529]

This is a IFR clearance lol. Vectors? What are you talking about ?

[@Michael-iw3ek]

If you can afford to fly a Cirrus, you can afford to get a CFI to have a WEEKLY refresher with you with real IFR procedures. Some day this will save your life. IFR flying can get complicated in a hurry, and if anything goes wrong, it's a disaster waiting to happen.

[@war_pig]

I had goose bumps listening to Orville and Wilber talk to ATC on their first flight ever.

[@tpbrcombo]

Brilliant 😂

[@garyp6395]

Just hearing him gives me zero confidence he’s safe. Bad bad bad

[@zeea320]

Not sure if it’s possible, but can ATC in the states refuse or prevent you from flying in their airspace ?…. This guy….. requires a lot more training to be diplomatic.

[@tomatosofficial1124]

They can give you commands but without valid reason they can’t cancel your IFR plan or stop you from taking off. She is paid to navigate planes, nothing more, nothing less. She can file a complaint, even give him a pilot deviation, but she can’t tell him to go back and park. I suppose nothing stops her from refusing to give him take off clearance. Its been done before, but most of the time pilots take off anyway and risk their license.. idk lol😊

[@roscoejones4515]

Can afford a Cirrus, but won't pay a CFI to fly with him on a mission he has no business flying. And "Okay um...that was exactly as it was loaded into the plane" was a bald-faced lie, and he was hoping she wouldn't require a read back?! What was he expecting to do in the air? The way points aren't casual 'suggestions'!

[@Xterraforce]

I would like to also hear the recording as he reached his destination to see how many tries it took to get landing clearance and if he landing on the correct runway, or on a runway at all for that matter.

[@Captc5766]

$20 says he landed on Quebec.

[@jackknifed_juggernaut]

When he went the wrong direction a second time i lost it 😂

[@55js]

Shocked he’s courageous to go up IFR by himself. These types of pilots are dangerous. Know yourself!

[@nzsaltflatsracer8054]

Just because you have a piece of paper that says you can, their comes a time when you shouldn't & hopefully somebody will point this out to us.

[@MightyScott52]

This pilot should never have been given the green light by his CFI to fly solo IFR without more experience and training, especially in a high performance airplane like an SR22 with advanced avionics. Clearly overmatched

[@RudeHaus148]

I wonder how much influence the chute on the SR22 has on an under skilled or unconfident pilot. I would think that a few of the deployments weren't absolutely needed.

[@anthony777100]

This guy sounds like he got his certificates and rating decades ago

[@ImpendingJoker]

Actually the SR22 is the perfect plane for a guy like this sadly. The avnx that it has makes it so that anyone can get from point A to point B, provided you enter the route correctly. In the event that stupid does kick in and you run out of airspeed, altitude and ideas all at the same time, there is always the ability to take the silk elevator and join the caterpillar club.

[@mtnairpilot]

Assuming he has an instrument rating, the CFI isn’t in a position to give him a green light to do anything. Additionally, there is no such thing as “solo IFR”. You are either rated or with a CFII.

[@MightyScott52]

@@mtnairpilot 100% agree, what I mean is that his CFI or CFII should have recommended more lessons before going out on his own (perhaps this happened but the advice wasn’t heeded, hard to say). I won’t attempt a flight in a new type unless I’m not only legal to do so, but also have a CFI’s blessing with minimums for what weather conditions I’m proficient to handle. Also, I’m a fan of your MU-2 videos. My uncle Alan K used to own a P-model.

[@joes878]

At 10:42 I was expecting him to turn right onto Charlie and try to cross the runway again.

[@ParisianZee]

I'm amazed that someone this slow has managed to become IFR rated. Genuinely shocking.

[@SurvivalSquirrel]

It seems to me, that since covid, everything that has been established and is good, is slowly going to be destroyed (not only in aviation). Anyone can do anything without consequences.

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

@@SurvivalSquirrel I am a student pilot and I took in person ground school and most of the class failed to pass the class exams. Many people in the class asked stupid questions. " Did they move the runway "

[@anderstrygg3188]

As someone who flies for a living, this made me shake my head in disbelief. This guy is clueless on even the most basic aspects of IFR flying like terminology, clearance format and read back requirements. I seriously doubt he is actually IFR rated.

[@BaxterRoss]

The problem is caused by the pilot's insistence on entering the clearance into his GPS, instead of copying it down and programming the GPS later

[@rg759]

For group awareness, even though she didn't give him a number, this for sure had to be reported and he either has or will get a call from the faa. I'm betting the controller didn't think it was worth rattling this guy any more and figured she'd just let the feds deal with it.

[@thomasdalton1508]

She may have asked the Departure controller to give him the number rather than distract him while he's trying to fly the SID.

[@sarahalbers5555]

I wouldn't trust this guy to pilot a ride on lawn mower. What a hot mess.

[@grantburrows2564]

Very patient controller. Poor guy. Don't think he needs to be flying.

[@alfredkinchen3113]

This man probably burned up his legal reserves just trying to get this clearance straight 🤣

[@Speedbird61]

This man: “ What legal reserve?” 🤔😂😂😂

[@alfredkinchen3113]

Lol@@Speedbird61

[@smithersrob]

I feel like at some point, probably after the runway incursion and before the 2nd wrong turn she should have just cancelled his clearance and directed him back to the ramp, so many red flags of an impending disaster I'm not sure it was responsible to allow him to continue.

[@tomatosofficial1124]

Unfortunately that isn’t her call.

[@smithersrob]

@@tomatosofficial1124 she just has to say she suspected he was impaired in some way and she not only can refuse to clear him but would be obliged to

[@dst5850]

Good to know that no matter how bad my communications are with Norwood Tower, the bar is a lot lower. I know that controller has patience from talking to him in the past, but this is a new level... Also that controller is a man, so every time I hear Ma'am I cringe

[@spencera3075]

Someone school me: If a controller is concerned about the skill level of the pilot being a danger to themselves and others, can they deny clearance?

[@Imachampion88]

Absolutely

[@Kaktus965]

No they cannot. ATC doesn’t have any level of authority to take certificate action.

[@Pawtism]

They should have canceled his clearances and had someone check on him. Either he is having some sort of medical issue (and shouldn't be in the air), or needs some retraining (and shouldn't be in the air) but at least until they've ruled out a medical issue, they should have canceled his clearance).

[@ghost307]

Agreed. He needs an evaluation by a very thorough AME.

[@TruthHasSpoken]

Imagine if this was a good day for the pilot.

[@ThatSB]

People really underestimate how overwhelming major airspaces can be for newer pilots not used to them especially when you're given 10 vectors that don't match with the original plan you were approved for

[@leothefirst]

This video is one of the most frustrating things I've watched lately! This guy should not be allowed to be alone in an airplane. He can't get a clearance right on the ground, how would he handle a busy airspace or a rerouting inflight? So dangerous!

[@Iflew727]

How this pilot was ever signed off for an instrument check ride much less passed one is beyond me!

[@chuck7299]

It was in 1962...

[@MickyMonday]

I wanna know who signed off Snodgrass to fly a single engine?

[@kevinjackson9526]

How this guy ever got an instrument rating is beyond me.

[@FallLineJP]

“57DB correct SO far” That’s the exact moment the pilot’s soul left his body.

[@IgorFioli]

He´s so humble but also so confused. I´m guessing an old fella struggling with early dementia symptoms. You read it right, just a guess.

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

There is currency and proficiency. This pilot is not proficient. Time to give up the airplane.

[@royquitter]

How did he not get a "possible pilot deviation, I have a phone number for you to call" for that?

[@ClausB252]

57DB, advise when ready to copy the phone number. Stand by, I'm creating a contact on my phone. How do you spell ATC? What was that number again? Do I need to dial a 1 first? What was that number again?

[@3rdandlong]

@@ClausB252 57DB, this is Harrison Ford..............

[@jdaz5462]

@@3rdandlong No it's not, It's Donald Baker 57DB Aviation LLC

[@raymondherbst7126]

Pilot speaking so lethargic and sounds like a new pilot on the radio.

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

But he has his instrument. He had to pass his private pilot and then his instrument. Mind blowing

[@kevinshackleton5295]

I wouldn't let this guy fly a paper airplane.

[@flyingphobiahelp]

This fella is IFR-rated? Who says victor “airway?”He needs a first officer or to stay in the traffic pattern. He also should be flying a Cessna 172 rather than a Cirrus otherwise he’ll be in the NTSB accident database

[@terryterry1655]

He needs to be grounded for good. I will take his cirrus instead.

[@Heathfx5]

The only thing this guy should be flying is a paper airplane, he could even unfold it and use it to write down the clearance. Instead of futzing with his panel that is clearly too advanced for his skill level.

[@VLove-CFII]

Another statistic here

[@pyme495]

This guy isn't qualified to fly a paper airplane on the playground.

[@jameswest8280]

How did he get his license and certs?

[@hamletksquid2702]

I'm guessing that going inside and having someone write it down on a Post-it isn't an available option?

[@VictoryAviation]

That’s a no. You do everything by comms to copy a clearance.

[@slacko1971]

The second time the controller read out @5:00 she missed out Norwich, I only noticed because I live in Norwich UK and chuckled at the pronunciation of it.

[@TriFlyAdventures]

Wow this was wild. Not sure about the legalities of this, however, at what point should a controller ask the question "are you sure you should be flying today?" that many mistakes, its a miracle he didnt crash or hit someone.

[@encinobalboa]

This guy is a crater waiting to happen. He should consider an Uber.

[@btrangbang]

The boston aviation comedy I didn't know I needed

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

Crazy Boston pilots. They are crazy drivers also. Flew to Boston for an audit, had to drive 30 miles to my hotel and there was like 5 really bad car accidents and they drove their cars in a dangerous fashion.

[@HoneysPark]

After 80 years in congress, a democrat retired and became a pilot. Never too old to fly

[@rangerider51]

I don’t think I would want to fly with this guy.

[@quliux6986]

The controllers job is the make sure the pilot has the info and he told her he was a little overwhelmed so she could have been abit more helpful a snotty attitude just adds to stress and stress. Leads to panic and panic let's to mistakes.

[@hotsoup1001]

I'd never make it as a pilot because there's no way I'd be able to copy down all those instructions.

[@edwardrichardson5567]

Very easy to understand your clearance. You just need to have a system. C- CLEARANCE R- ROUTE A- ALTITUDE F- FREQUENCY T- TRANSPONDER Also it is good practice that write short-handed that you can understand.

[@jumboJetPilot]

This guy is just begging to have a cartoon made after him.