Pilot’s Children Cause this Plane to Crash into the Ground (With Real Audio)

[@anthroposmetron4475]

I've known about this incident for years and years, and it's still beyond depressing that scores of passengers and crew were lost not because of any technical fault, but because of just pure, 100% human factor unprofessionalism and idiocy. All those lives cut off, truncated, because of *this.* Each one of those people had family, a future, and for it all to be all cast aside because someone decided to let their kid 'fly' the plane... god. What a senseless waste of human lives.

[@marybarry2230]

Yes this is really profoundly sad! For all the reasons you said above!

[@Jijuane]

Fast forward to 22 and a pilot tanks a plane on the eastern side of the world just because

[@livelyupmyself1]

@@mindyschocolate there was no intent in this accident… The flight crew were just idiots…

[@malikbogosi6555]

I agree, a friend of mine whom we went to the university together moved to Poland and he is successful there so he bought a Cessna and invited me to fly there so that we can go on a ride in his toy. He brought his 6 year son old with us on the day of the exploration trip by air . The trip was smooth and peaceful until his son asked him whether he can show me that he can fly a plane and instantly this incident pop in my mind and while still contemplating this the father decided that I should switch seat with his son so that he can fly the plane but that wasn’t going to happen with me there and that I knew for sure because I don’t play games in the sky. The kid was sad but sadness is recoverable so he is fine and so are we. I wasn’t going to let that happen on my watch and I am sure little Jimmy can fly the plane but for me it was not a risk worth taking.

[@lesliesolomon4220]

@@malikbogosi6555 I hope your friend learned his lesson from your cautionary tale and never let his young son "fly" the Cessna.

[@royharper9472]

This has to be one of the most preventable airline crashes in all of aviation history.

[@tubester4567]

The Air France crash in the Atlantic was pretty bad too. At least something happened in this crash to confuse the pilots. In the Air France crash they just drove it into the ocean for no reason.

[@itellyouforfree7238]

@@tubester4567 while i agree that the air france one is a good contender for most incompetent crew,nothing dramatic happened in this accident either to really "confuse" the THREE pilots in the cockpit. the first officer should have been monitoring the asset and manually regained it in seconds after the deviation. they clearly had no fucking clue on how to really fly a plane

[@WikDgunner]

An abortion would have prevented this.

[@darksoul6482]

@@itellyouforfree7238 Stall... Stall warning ranged 58 times still Bonin could not apply downward pitch

[@itellyouforfree7238]

@@darksoul6482 he still hasn't released his stick yet

[@usgator]

“The autopilot, unable to cope, completely disengages”. Man, I felt that.

[@royharper9472]

I did that to my wife the other night, I just disengaged

[@4bibimimi]

It's autopilot not "override stupid".

[@vegasbabyy]

@@royharper9472 lol 💀

[@4bibimimi]

@@royharper9472 if we as human beings ever evolved to the point where we start making that "dead air" noise when we truly aren't listening we will all be in big trouble.ooooooooooooo!

[@JALC-x]

what🤦‍♂️

[@yu-gi-hoe3124]

God this is so infuriating, can you imagine your life ending because someone let their child at the controls of something as delicate and intricate as a plane?? An absolute waste of life, it’s awful to know the people in that plane died for nothing.

[@contr0lo]

Even so, the pilots were terrible.

[@Zero-hs5tx]

Agreed. Any pilot caught letting a kid pilot a passenger plane should be prosecuted and sentenced to years in prison.

[@archibaldmeatpants3510]

@@contr0lo Exactly... "I have not seen the instruments"..... something you never want a pilot to say ever lol. I feel like almost all of us commenting on these aviation channels that has ever played flight sim could have leveled out this plane.

[@aidensample1757]

Not exactly, it’s hard to crash a plane you almost have to know what your doing to crash a plane, planes are beautiful machines that have a mind of their own(auto-pilot) and even when it’s disengaged it’ll do its best to remain level and steady until auto-pilot is back on. Now the pilots just didn’t know how to problem solve under stress and fucked it all up

[@brianamosley2002]

Just sad. 😢

[@mrLeesmyth]

My Friend Adrian Deville died on this flight.He was a photographer and avid aviation fan.We used to go to Mildenhall Farnborough barton airshows and loved to watch the aircraft.It was ironic that Adrian died on this flight and heartbreaking too for his family. Whenever i go up in the sky now i talk to Adrian to help keep me safe.God bless you my friend!!!!

[@frenchkiss8789]

❤️

[@coleencunningham404]

🥹🙏🏻💙💙

[@lynmartz7961]

Aww sorry for the loss of your buddy😔🙏!! Im sorry, how long ago was this devastation???

[@mrLeesmyth]

@@lynmartz7961 The accident happened on 23rd March 1994.And thankyou Lyn.God Bless.🙂

[@lynmartz7961]

@@mrLeesmyth Thanks Lee, may God bless your wonderful life too! If we are still Alive, is because we still have purposes in our lives to achieve and guide many others to the Light of JESUS, that are Lonely, Disturbed, Suicidal, ect, to Vive them A Word Of HOPE, and you are one of them, you have a Kind And Warm Heart to do this Lee! 😊🙌

[@sharplydressedrabbit3604]

As others have mentioned, yes the kids set this in motion, but the pilots should have been able to stop this. It is astonishing how bad these pilots were.

[@houseplant7441]

Exactly. Especially since they were supervising the kids, meaning they should have known how to correct it if something happened (which something did happen)

[@dmanduff9108]

Exactly. The kid merely put it into a gentle bank. How about, hmm let's say...counter bank with either control inputs or try turning the azimuth dial on the autopilot, one of which would guaranteed to have worked. Utter inexcusable incompetence.

[@Pathite]

Yeah it was pretty grade A garbage. I noticed they were also arguing with each other too, throughout the entire incident. When one yelled left, the other yelled right, like they were in their own world. No teamwork between the two at all, along with, seemingly having no understanding of the aircraft they were piloting. Like they were used to smaller planes, with how heavily they over-corrected and pedaled to the metal, like they weren't in a heavy, bigass plane.

[@Fabian__.]

still blame the kids if you 16 you should know it’s best not to touch anything

[@maryamshahimi6947]

@@Fabian__. you should know better than your 40 year old pilot dad?

[@sesanti]

The fact that the kid is the first to notice the plane is banking is mind-boggling.

[@sooners2037]

What made it worse was it took the captain a bit to realize what was happening also saw this on Air Disasters on the Smithsonian channel

[@josimpson7999]

Yes. That sort of says it all really, doesn’t it?

[@P4Passions]

@@sooners2037 The basic human error caused by pilot not son

[@mastersamurai7683]

Ya the pilot and Co pilot were jokers

[@gomerzpyle6805]

Vodka will do that.

[@CarlAquaForce]

This is literally the first time in my 48 years I've had my stomach drop while watching a video but when that plane started to malfunction I sure the hell did. Wow. Absolutely tragic.

[@Maxley..]

Agreed about the stomach drop feeling, but actually the aircraft didn't malfunction. It did everything it was designed to do. All autopilots can be overridden by control input. The problem here was how the pilots reacted.

[@XYZ_55]

@@Maxley.. The pilots did everything possible to cause a crash, against the aircraft's best efforts to avoid it.

[@corywilson4550]

As Captain at an airline, these videos (very well done!) really hit the gut hard. I sometimes struggle to fight back tears watching these, but continue to watch them because I either learn something each time, or they reinforce the caution and common sense that I am fortunate enough to posses. Thank you for producing these videos.

[@marklulay]

Such a great comment. ❤

[@shanenoel1270]

Even when the skill is there, we can always learn something new. I would guess that flying is always a learning experience. Glad that you are taking the time to watch and learn from these amazing videos Captain Cory! My pray is this.....Father God. Bless Cory and his family. May your grace and marvelous mercy follow Captain Cory on every flight. Cory has an epic responsibility for all of the souls that are onboard his flights. Bless Captain Cory and bring him home safely at the end of each mission. In Jesus' Holy name! Amen🙏

[@murphymerryliz]

I love your reply and prayer ♥️

[@fcgalaxy233]

Stay safe captain.

[@mariavillarreal8152]

Dear God bless Captain Cory every time he takes a flight, put your hands above his to take control of the aircraft and bring him home along with everybody each time he flights. In Jesus name I pray 🙏

[@VRed37]

I can only imagine the terror the passengers and flight attendants lived through. So avoidable and so sad

[@samnice1673]

Yes, It must have been the terror of their life...

[@Wabbelpaddel]

@@bleirdo_dude So much edge that the flat earthers will see you as new home planet

[@bleirdo_dude]

@@Wabbelpaddel Would you rather me yell out "Don't be scared! You're on Scare Tactics"?

[@daveintheshed4870]

@@bleirdo_dude the absolute truth is that you'd be screaming your ass off with them.

[@bleirdo_dude]

@@daveintheshed4870 I hope you would be there with me to make sure.

[@paulmoreira9402]

Aside from the obviously beyond stupid desicions by the relief pilot, I am even more astonished at how they had no clue how to manually fly an airplane

[@Armann_]

Sure. And I’m just imagining they relied way too much on the computer to fly for them, because they seem to blatantly ignore it’s warnings casually.

[@Sorarse]

I agree completely. I have seen a number of incidents on this channel that have exhibited a similar trait; pilots that only seem able to operate a computer rather than actually 'fly' a plane.

[@JoSheeply]

It was the 16 yo son who noticed first that something is wrong, not the pilots.

[@paulmoreira9402]

@@JoSheeply yeah just shocking how reliant they were on procedures and AP

[@billp4]

IDK. In the dark like that? Got to troubleshoot. At one point it couldn't be saved.

[@londonspade5896]

"Get out now, all is normal" Father's last words to his children, trying to comfort them and stop them from seeing what was coming Damn

[@anayarey]

Maybe he should have said "It's not your fault" instead of gaslighting them. Children aren't stupid. In fact they knew something was wrong before those "pilots" knew

[@BrothaEwh]

Father: I f*d up. Suhka!

[@ItsJustKylie-]

​@@anayarey- How did he "gaslight" them?

[@mattnick23]

@@ItsJustKylie-by using his last moment to lie instead of make it right

[@ItsJustKylie-]

@@mattnick23 - How could he have "made it right"? What benefit would there be to telling the cold truth of impending death? What kind of parent doesn't give their child a comforting lie during their last moments of life. He didn't gaslight them. That word is so overused these days.

[@robertcongdon6296]

It's really incomprehensible that the pilot could be so irresponsible when so many lives are at stake.

[@craigbosko2229]

I'd say the pilot takes too many things for granted.He assumed everything would be a.o.k.in the cockpit with the first officer,well he assumed wrong.Its not only the pilots falt it's also the 1st officer's falt also, just as much.The pilot left the cockpit for a break and his two kid's in the cockpit with the 1st officer which was in charge.Even though he was flying the plane,why wasn't he watching the 2 kid's?, even though their not his responsibility but in a way they are,their in the cockpit and he's the co-pilot and the ONLY officer in the cockpit,that puts him in athority.

[@maxfernandes8559]

It's even more incomprehensible to understand untrained children at the controls when trained pilots in the cockpit allow them to fly with innocent passengers in the back who have put their lives on those pilots.

[@rubies200]

@@craigbosko2229 I've seen adults be irresponsible of their children in situations where common sense would dictate that they SHOULD control their offspring. The situation wasn't deadly but I was astonished at how stupid adults can be, thinking the kids are being cute.

[@randomrazr]

I always found that accident horribly sad. Including for the pilot and his kids. It's not so much letting the kids handle the controls that caused the crash, it's the fact that they didn't really know the Airbus properly yet. They were convinced that one couldn't disengage the autopilot no matter what. Which I think was the case on more classic types of aircraft like Tupolev and Boeing.

[@robertcongdon6296]

@@craigbosko2229 What the hell are kids doing in the cockpit in the first place? I can understand a pilot wanting to show his kids the inner workings of a plane, but only when it's on the ground with its engines shut down. Why were they even allowed in the cockpit during a flight, that must be against the rules? A trained pilot being this feckless is shocking.

[@Jason-cf1xn]

Imagine being told that your family has died because, “well, the plane was actually being flown by some children, so you know, what can you do?”

[@amanibey1391]

It wasn’t the daughter or son’s fault Jason. It was a beautiful thing the pilot did by sharing that experience with his children. The problem was the pilots incompetence and inability to perform under pressure

[@oqocraft2661]

@@amanibey1391 Um..

[@shutupidiott]

@@amanibey1391 no the children and the pilots were both humans and humans make mistakes,the real fault was of the plane itself

[@santoroshopper3]

@Pushiswin agree. You need to be 16 to get a learners permit for a car but can be 15 to pretend to fly a plane? They were Prbly bugging their dad The minute they heard they were going on this flight can we fly the plane can we fly the plane? They’ve probably done it before. This is a direct consequence of parents that don’t know how to say no to their kids the answer was no sit in your damn seat shut up I’ll wake you up when we get there

[@Rosebud2503]

@@santoroshopper3 totally agree. I am really angry about this.....soo many people died.

[@adrianaluptak3832]

As a former cabin crew member, this accident is the most infuriating one for me. We are putting our lives in their hands, have to rely on the pilot's judgment and skills just to be betrayed by the absolute stupid move on their side... RIP all those souls

[@zygotezygotten6485]

@Women's Rights was a Mistake Aviation is a technical skill. It does not require physical strength--it requires situational awareness, the ability to multi-task and the ability to stay in a calm and rational state of mind in stressful situations. Those traits are not unique to males. There are MANY competent and skilled women pilots, both commercial and military. There are female fighter pilots in the US Air Force and Navy-- one of the Air Force Thunderbird pilots is a woman. These idiots who caused the Russian airliner crash were MEN--stupid, incompetent and reckless men. Would you have been comfortable flying with them just because they were men?

[@omega6599]

Adriana, you are doing a great job. And you're beautiful. But most of all you're doing a really great job. I've done something similar in the past. The difference is that I worked on board cruise ships. It makes a huge difference because in case of danger, at sea, we (the crew) can actually DO our part to help survive the situation. Up there on a plane you crew members can do much less, and really put your lives in the hands of potential morons like this one. I wish you will have a long and peaceful career, trouble free. Come back to your beloved ones every time.

[@ilovecops5499]

IN RUSSIA, LITTLE KIDS CONTROS PLANE!

[@zhongxina2614]

@@ilovecops5499 No wonder they can't hit the targets

[@houseplant7441]

I know…. It is infuriating sigh

[@bernlin2000]

It's very bizarre to me that the presence of children wasn't the final straw for this incident... apparently it was all too common at the time for Russian pilots to sometimes let friends and family visit the cabin during the flight. But still: to allow them access to the flight controls without any training or permission from the company is inarguably dangerous.

[@sooners2037]

Before 9/11 pilots would sometimes allow children into the cockpit to show them what goes on on there but not handle the controls like in this case

[@saltydog9321]

it's absolutely beyond belief. It's incredible

[@dagainz6997]

@@sooners2037 that's true. I was allowed to visit the pilot's cabin on a commercial flight GRU - LIS in 1995, along with other kids. I was 9 at the time and this is something that completely changed after 9/11.

[@yaboyed5779]

Yup, the “funny” thing is that it wasn’t just Russian pilots but others too. 911 eventually changed all that for obvious reasons.

[@popermen694]

@@sooners2037ya they would do it all the time when he as a kid.

[@silaszebedee9331]

My grandfather used to say, "Don't let a child touch anything unless you want it broken."

[@danyelleorr-mcneil4711]

🤣🤣 That sounds like something my grandfather would say.

[@vickilindsey4499]

I wonder if they told the family and the public immediately once they knew the cause. I have stopped boarding any aircraft since 2006. Too many things can go wrong.

[@AlphaSigmA1]

​​@@vickilindsey4499 you should quit being in trains, buses and cars as well since more things can go wrong boarding in any of these Ahh don't walk also.... that's the most dangerous of any of the above. You can go crawling... that's the safest

[@vickilindsey4499]

@@AlphaSigmA1 you are someone who seeks attention by going from video to video and finding folks to attack. Please try to be kind, take a walk outside and get some sunshine.

[@AlphaSigmA1]

@Vicki Lindsey Now you know what I'm doing ? Dear I'm not attacking you... "truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth"

[@koreainsincere]

When a pilot has to ask "But why is it turning?" you know you're in deep shit. Major league fuck up this one.

[@Leha__777]

Why the heck didn't he just correct the turn by his own column input... it's crazy

[@BGI_guy]

@@Leha__777 they believed it was some holding pattern they entered (it wasn't that's only done in a missed approach or if commanded by ATC)

[@Leha__777]

@@BGI_guy the turn was too sharp already that noment..they just fell out of control i think

[@Melissaaaa2928]

Seriously.

[@timonsolus]

This was a result of the Russian aircraft manufacturers doing their own thing, and not following Western cockpit design standards. There's been a few cases where Russian pilots flying Western aircraft made mistakes because Western aircraft had instrument designs, warning systems and autopilot behaviours that differed in how they worked from those in Russian aircraft. Russian pilots are generally better off when flying Russian planes, not Western planes.

[@phil4986]

This is one of the saddest true stories in all of aviation history. May we never hear another one like it because of all the lessons learned. As usual,TheFlightChannel, a very respectful,informative telling of just a completely avoidable,tragic event. Well done.

[@rstidman]

15 is pretty young to be committing a multiple-murder-suicide, but it happens, I guess, as a price we all pay for the right to possess an airplane. I'd like to see more emphasis on giving kids airplane cockpit safety classes so they don't use these tools heinously. A good guy with a cockpit with beat a bad guy with a cockpit any day, so I am told.

[@4bibimimi]

This incident definitely forced changes in protocol regarding cockpits clearance. 9. 11 gave us impenetrable cockpit doors. Unfortunately, this feature allows the first officer of that Germanwings flight to crash it into the Alps. One safety or security feature can often eliminate or override another.

[@skylined5534]

@@4bibimimi It's a pity there isn't some sort of ever changing override code for say the flight deck door.

[@marybarry2230]

Frightening irresponsible and downright stupid!

[@danielhaidar4059]

Yeah. This was so sad. ACI did an episode on it years back. Its so sad because it was so fucking easily avoidable. Its like if i allowed my toddler to sit in the drivers seat of my car

[@hotatp]

Im getting nervous when I read that the son has partial control of the plane😬unbelievable that the guy let his kid fly the plane with all those people aboard, insane

[@crashburn3292]

Imagine the passengers closest to the cockpit, experiencing all the G forces, while at the same time having to listen to the pilot's panic and scream at each other..

[@backtopurrrfectagain6681]

Nah, I think cockpit room is soundproof.

[@anjou6497]

and the children realizing the horror of it...perhaps a sense of guilt, which children can do, to me thats beyond tragic. ⚘

[@anonnimoose7987]

They probably got a glimpse of the visitors

[@orangejackcaroline1808]

@@anjou6497 yeah

[@SkyCloudSilence]

@@anonnimoose7987 Boom. Imagine sitting there, you watch 2 children enter the cockpit and 10 minutes later you're spinning out of the sky. Un-fricken-believable. I don't understand why the 1st Pilot in Charge, the most senior pilot who began the flight didn't step in AT ANY POINT???!

[@jdmbeats]

This gave me really bad anxiety. These videos are so well made, it gives you a sense of what the passengers and crew experience during these tragedies. I know it's a million times scarier actually being there, but I get an idea of what it must have been like in their final moments. Thank you for making these videos, they are very educational and help prevent pilots from making similar mistakes, and avoid disaster.

[@singerAR0406]

100% same. So much anxiety. I had to stop the video for a minute

[@cocacleocola4696]

Exactly sir

[@matrepharaoh8260]

Me too lol I just wanted to fast forward to see what happened and get it over with.

[@damajah]

You will be ok. Just always remember. Tin cans are not supposed to be flying in the sky. Btw.. these videos don't prevent pilots from making fatal errors and killing everyone on board. Do you think they KZbin them when critical error hits when flying and encountering danger. 😂😂🛬🌋🔥

[@seltaeb9691]

This is flying, some crash & always will. Ask yourselves the question would I still have gone on holiday.. I did & don't fly, not that I am afraid, I just weighed it up & seeing these stupid crashes think I can holiday at home or regional by car & yes they do crash but I am careful aware driver with a car that has airbags, crumple zones & I can have control. There's risk everywhere but planes have huge risk that they are 1000s of feet in the air. Do what your body is telling you & don't let others interfere.

[@justcallmeangel2805]

I cant imagine the terror and panic of the passengers with the plane spinning round like a rollercoaster. Inimaginable.

[@hanslanda58]

@Steve Robinson why

[@hanslanda58]

@Steve Robinson that wasn’t a mistake

[@hanslanda58]

@Steve Robinson no I saw what you wrote … why make fun of people dying ? Why man why

[@tula1433]

@Steve Robinson fucking weirdo.

[@Shadowknight890_]

​@Ed Nigma I feel so sorry that someone like you can be born. Poor parents. This isn't what a person should become.

[@NCC-1701]

I simply cannot imagine what this was like for the passengers through all these twist and turns. 😧

[@Gizziiusa]

im sure being inverted, even if briefly, was a huge wake up call that its not going to end well for them...

[@christopherborsellino2268]

I can not even begin to imagine the fear in the passengers and flight crew felt while this was going on.

[@deftone1]

They knew they were toast.

[@Scythe_Voltage]

@@deftone1 when they saw 2 kids running out of the cockpit 😂 the passengers were like “yep this is it”

[@deftone1]

@@Scythe_Voltage Not a joke but yes, probably went down like that upside.

[@justinschrank4806]

Its not funny

[@Scythe_Voltage]

@@justinschrank4806 kids are getting ruthlessly beaten by their alcoholic father everyday but lord help us we laugh at a plane crash caused by kids in the cockpit

[@themomentchannel3498]

blew my mind when i first read about this crash, of course its fun showing them the cockpit but letting them “control” the plane is next level negligence, there’s a reason why only trained pilots are allowed to control the plane.

[@rstidman]

I agree that this video is really fun. Do we know if the Russian authorities kept allowing mentally retarded people to become certified pilots after this incident?

[@tensevo]

When people tell me nuclear power is safe, I think about stories like this one. There is simply no accounting for human incompetence sometimes. If it can be f*cked up, somebody will F it up.

[@themomentchannel3498]

@@tensevo true, humans are destined to fuck something up

[@bigbaddms]

Well they weren't supposed to. The daughter sat in the seat, and lightly touched the controls. The son apparently pushed it hard enough to disengage the autopilot. It said over 8kg force? That's a lot, nearly 20 pounds of force. Obviously, this case, that was a huge mistake.

[@michaele8347]

Apparently these guys weren’t trained either…

[@skylarmccune9242]

What astounds me the most is the fact that the pilots were ultimately the ones who flew the plane into the ground. The story is “Kids in the Cockpit”, but basic competence could have averted disaster after the kids touched the controls. The situation was totally salvageable until the pilot stupidly overcorrected and stalled the plane the second time.

[@rominac1389]

I thought of a guy who is a private pilot and has a KZbin channel (he's been flying for 20 years). In one of the videos he lets his then 9-year old daughter "fly the plane" (he owns a Piper PA-28 Arrow), and he was confident about it. Some people in the comments were really worried, though. I think it's kind of a controversial thing, you never know what the kid will do and how skilled the adult in charge is.

[@kgaming7599]

@@rominac1389 At least he was still in the main seat and in a plane which is easier to control

[@JJtoob]

Agreed. Although I don't think you should let children have that much potential control of a plane, especially a fully loaded commercial plane, what they did was not the direct cause of the crash as much as the unnecessary nosing up the plane so sharply. I'm not even a pilot, but just watching aviation videos for the past few months already taught me that's a bad idea in a commercial plane.

[@eugenelayton5231]

This would have been totally salvageable if they left the children out of the cockpit. Once you let a child have control over an airliner someone is gonna die. Unfortunately the idiot in charge along with his children took many more lives on that flight.

[@kerprice]

There was a girl (Jessica Dubroff) 20 years ago who "learned" how to fly and her 57 year old dad was on a mission for her to be the youngest cross country pilot--she crashed on the 2nd day and the flight instructor and her dad also died. I remember seeing the dad on GMA or Today and thought then it's irresponsible to do this--especially when she wasn't flying solo.

[@rickrich7325]

Absolutely one sad story and totally avoidable. How terrifying for all, almost made me have a panic attack watching this!

[@bertamartin2683]

I mean it’s a sad story but a panick attack…? Cmon.

[@AMAZIGH691]

Aside from breaking regulations, this is one of the very few air crashes where the pilots had more than enough time to recover, even after failing to correct the first extreme bank angle, they could level the plane if the first officer did not overcorrect the pull up and causing a stall. What a waste of lives due to these incompetent pilots.

[@coloradostrong]

There is a difference between _braking_ regulations and _breaking_ regulations.

[@reidunbrown7971]

Very well expressed. Thanks!

[@picketf]

the instrument that shows the plane's orientation in relation to the horizon was not the same (wrong colors) as in russian airplanes they usually flew, this is what hindered situational awareness. There was nothing else there that could indicate how steep the angle of ascent was. The animations depiction is exaggerated, to enter stall the nose doesn't have to be that high at all. Also while the plane stalled control had not yet been restored and the plane kept banking due to manual inputs.

[@markprange4386]

The pilots of the Q400 near Buffalo in 2009 had time and altitude in which to recover.

[@morphkogan8627]

How easy is to make the mistake of over correcting tho?

[@abdikadir7511]

His baffling negligence notwithstanding, the last words to his son were, "go away..". Just a sad, sad story. RIP to the poor passengers and crew who entrusted their lives to this idiot.

[@h4rder10]

who cares about them? there were about 70 people on board apart from this family.

[@alicenelson8615]

@@h4rder10 I think most of us care about all of them.

[@stonew1927]

From that comment it seemed like the son Eldar stayed in the way for far too long. His dad the relief pilot had to tell him to go back a couple of times. It sounded like the stupid kid wouldn't listen.

[@stonew1927]

@@theshadowsovereign8914 Honestly, what did you expect him to have said? He's trying to regain control of the aircraft! He's trying to SAVE ALL THEIR LIVES! And his stupid son obviously WON'T GO AWAY!!

[@buymeskittles2719]

The kid probably didn't want to go back with the passengers. I mean, your dad lets you in the cockpit, and then you come walking out a few minutes later just as the plane begins to go completely sideways and then nosedive and spin. He got to listen to all the passengers screams of terror in those final moments, and probably felt like it was all his fault. I'm sure a lot of passengers thought so, too. It's tragic and sad, but also infuriating. What was that relief pilot thinking?

[@jackrosado746]

Bro actually asked his 16 year old son genuinely why the plane HE was supposed to be flying was turning

[@vinnieg6161]

I don't understand this to me these pilots seemed completely incompetent

[@mattnick23]

he’s a relief pilot but i swear they lied about his qualifications

[@k8schmate]

What he was really asking his son is “what did you just do”

[@Gizziiusa]

2nd time watching this, and I now realize that the pilot is "fighting" with his son while the plane becomes more and more uncontrollable. @10:00 [post edit] in all probability, the son was panicking which sadly was causing the pilot to direct his attn to his son

[@brutismaximus1]

@@vinnieg6161 Well they were Russians so it kind of makes sense

[@1rage17]

I loved looking into and being the cockpit as a kid, I used to fly a lot as a kid and the people that worked on the plane always gave me special attention because I would fly alone since I was 7 years old. It’s those experiences I’ll never forget! I would not want to say you shouldn’t let them in the cockpit, just a peek for 1 minute for a short chat should be fine. But having them actually touch the controls sounds absolutely insane. literally.. insane. It’s crazy he’s asking his kid why his plane is operating the way it is. Plus they are distracting him from the warning signals. Crazy stuff.

[@RuRu-ly3js]

So have I and have been lucky enough to touch controls. WHEN THE AIRCRAFT WAS ON THE GROUND!

[@littlepoodle7443]

@@NicNakBraun did you even read the comment?

[@j.s.9964]

@@NicNakBraun are you slow or arent you able to read?

[@agquaproductions9361]

There's always that one person that has to compare and sound better than the person in the video. Girl shut the fuck up.

[@buskontention3872]

@@NicNakBraun idk if you're joking or comprehension challenged but... she clearly means flying (as a passenger) without a parent accompanying her. Airlines assign someone to cater to minors who have to travel unaccompanied until they're picked up at the other end.

[@roscoewhite3793]

I recall how as a ten-year-old I was allowed on the flight deck of a Boeing 707 over the Philippines so I could watch the crew at work. I stood by the door for some minutes, and was invited to ask questions, which were answered. I never thought to ask if I could sit in a crew seat, and none of the crew invited me to do so. We all knew better.

[@unite3717]

This happened to me too, the pilots ask me if I had questions, I was about 7 years old and was just stunned by the complexity of the all the buttons and controls, as well as the front view flying into clouds, with no visibilty, I had no questions because well, where do you begin? In hindsight I'm wondering how much these pilots know themselves 😅

[@joebidens_touchyhands9477]

Are you Russian??? 🙄

[@straycatsanctuary3475]

Same.

[@ChyloeReece]

I wonder if kids can even do that anymore, with incidents like this, and all the hijacking??

[@markiobook8639]

Same. Wouldn't have dared.

[@George.Coleman]

It's so frustrating to know that the first officer regained control and then proceeded to lift the nose for the fatal stall

[@wifegrant]

As someone who loves flight simulators, this kind of stall is so avoidable and frustrating to see. Overcorrecting is really a mistake you make a lot in flight sims at the start...however, I can't speak from IRL experience, or how it must be for an actual pilot to try and get out of a stall.

[@powertrip6426]

@an actual alpaca There have been disasters from every country so please don't try to make this something it's not. It's very shameful to do so. 75 people died. People. I don't care where they came from.

[@George.Coleman]

@@powertrip6426 it's a disaster for the Ukrainians to be invaded like they have

[@ixxxxxxx]

@@powertrip6426 thank you sir

[@andrewjohnson1056]

@@powertrip6426 dumb russians

[@ВладимирГалицкий-х8ц]

If you listen "black box" records you will understand, that daughter wasn't excited at all by opportunity to fly a plane and didn't want to do it. The moment when 12 years old was smarter then the main pilot :(

[@brockjennings]

At seven years old, I had the opportunity to visit the cockpit of a C-141 on a space available flight from Clark to Hickam. I knew enough not to touch anything. That experience made a lasting impression on me.

[@jelvasch]

Lol yeah same, i had my arms stiff against my body haha.

[@rjb073]

Being a pilot for 33 years, I cannot comprehend why any pilot would bring their children into the cockpit during a flight in progress. Putting your child into the pilot's seat is just plain foolish and stupid. Kids cannot help themselves to not touch or turn something and then things can go to hell in a heartbeat. I think the other pilot should have said "NO! They can't come into the cockpit." What's the Captain going to do, turn you in to his supervisor?" Not likely, unless he really is stupid.

[@hopingtobewheatnotatare172]

In this crash, why didnt the more experienced pilot just return to the front and save the day? Or with the G forces stuff, would that have made it not possible for him to move and walk around?

[@Adaruvideos]

@@hopingtobewheatnotatare172 According to National Geographic's Air Crash Investigations, that's exactly what happened. Everyone was just damn glued to their seats because of extreme G forces. The other pilot couldn't get up from his seat at all.

[@judahtribe7]

Reminds me of Ben Affleck's son in that Lamborghini

[@SUNFlower-tt9zv]

Every product from market purchased contained precautionary note ( children's reach out).One man's mistake caused many people's suffering...

[@djjoep100]

So true I am a cdl school bus driver will never let a kid in my cockpit or in my 18 wheeler truck so sad that this happened

[@LV2UXO77]

Out of all the Flight Channel videos I've watched, this video made me feel sick. When the relief pilot, Kudrinsky, said to his son Eldar" go to the back of the plane, can't you see we're in danger? I couldn't believe his son was still in the cockpit during that time. Then to find out both children were in the cockpit the entire time, there's no way the pilots could concentrate on what was going on to get the plane under control. My heart goes out to all the families who lost their loved ones in this horrific plane crash. R.I.P.

[@picketf]

the son was still there because he couldn't get out of the seat just before it. G-forces prevented anyone from exchanging seats and when his father said it he could move again but was still in shock.

[@av8644]

@@picketf yeah that was my thoughts... They were probably physically unable to leave. The last time he told them, the plane was completely inverted like 10 seconds later, he expect them to crawl on the ceiling?

[@adamv242]

The sheer terror those poor passengers must have experienced in the final out-of-control minutes is unimaginable.

[@ehombane]

Nope, is fully imaginable. It happens all the time, everywhere. And even it was unexpected and stupid, it was one of the easiest one. Few minutes of worrying, and one minute of terror in the last one when it was clear that the outcome is inevitable. Cancer is thousands times worse than that. It takes years, and a lot of pain. And this is just one example, there are thousands more. One even worse is to be forced to go to war, and beside the terror of being killed is the terror of killing others. And I will tell you that terror of death is not so bad as terror of an abused child. And this happens a lot more than killing. So sorry to troll you, but the world is hell, even many of us do not realize it.

[@jdoritohead4983]

@@ehombane all the time? It’s like one fatal crash every 3.7 million flights

[@bellapullman10002]

@@ehombane All death is pain and being in a plane crash about to die is terrifying and horrible way to go. These innocent people were living their lives and didn't expect to die that day. Some likely had cancer or were abused as kids and some were kids themselves.

[@ehombane]

@@jdoritohead4983 yep, all the time. i am talking about terror, not crash. please read again my comment.

[@ehombane]

@@bellapullman10002 Nope, not all pain is death. Some deaths are instant. Some deaths are in the sleep, no pain at all, and some deaths are relief of pain. And I experienced death twice, so I know what I am talking. First time I got shot. I felt nothing, I was just gone in an instant. One moment I was waiting in the rain counting minutes till the end of the shift, and the next moment, I did not existed a anymore. I was in clinical death for 24 hours, the surgeon declared me dead, but some other medical staff insisted that I can be revived. And they revived me. After two weeks of coma, I had few years of slow and painful recovery. I fully assure you that this was millions time worse than dying. I will mention just one scene. Lying in the bed unable to move, and suddenly having an acute vertigo, for hours. You know the terror of falling, of the bike, or of the roof maybe, or a tree. But that one is just for seconds, not hours. So I have felt what those victims felt, but for hours not mere minutes. And there is something worse than falling. Is suffocating. I had that one too. It was decades later. But I will jump back at those years of recovering. I was still in hospital in the first months. I was still fed through a tube in the veins. And I saw a air bubble coming down the tube. I knew that air in blood vessels is a death sentence. I should have called the nurse. But I found it funny. I had an option. I was in the position to decide. To continue to be a vegetable, or to let it go. And I decided to let it go. Nothing happened. I suppose the device had some fail safe. So death was no pain no terror. Second time was some two decades later. Head trauma over the brain injury. Initially some neck and eye spasm. No big deal I continued what I was doing. It came back at every 15 minutes. And passed every time. but forth time did not passed anymore. I was in a visit. My neck stiffened and the head turned on a side and I could do nothing. Everything started to darken, and I was pretty scared, but at that moment the daughter of the host entered the room, and what bothered me more than the imminent death, was that I could not be polite and say hello to that woman. In few minutes that passed too, I was able to talk again, I said to the guy that I do not feel well and need to lie down. He helped me to the bed, and I called an ambulance. And while changing to be admitted in, suddenly I vanished. I had no idea. But the person that accompanied me told me yeas later that I became unresponsive. I was just mobile with a blank stare. This is not coma, but something else, commotion I think that is called. Not death, but since I was not aware anymore it was like death. The poor woman was the one in terror now, not me :) But a janitor come in the bathroom, and she calmed her. Not worries, he will come ba ck, it happens all the time. And in 15 minutes I hot rest and woke, and continued to dress like nothing happened. But i could have been gone for good, brain dead, is like being dead anyway. So from all these experiences, death meant nothing, except once when I was moderately scared. You may suspect that I am a brute without feelings. But I can refute this with another story when I had a really bad cold, about 7 years ago. It was almost covid like. Ruined my lungs, felt suffocating, and hat a lot of anxiety and panic attacks. It was not as acute as terror. I know what terror is. I felt it as a child while savagely being beaten, or psychologically abused. So those panic attacks were bad enough that woke in me fear of death. As a young, badly injured, I felt no fear. Life was anyway mostly torture, so death was an escape. but now, old, when anyway death is closer, or maybe because of that I started to fear it. Doctors started to pump me with drugs, but I fear those more than death, so I looked to natural alternatives and lavender solved me. Now, the final experience. That bad cold left me with ruined lungs and hearth. My angina got really bad. I got some treatment, but pains still coming back. And one morning I woke with a tremendous pain in the chest. I experienced a lot of pain in my life, but this was really bad. I was convince that is a heart attack. Calling an ambulance it was the only sensible option. Buit I experienced few ER visits, and all were worse than death. And I had enough of everything. At that moment my only regret was that I still had some 50 euros in the bank account, and that would have been lost since I have nobody entitled in my account. So I turned my computer on, transferred all to my ex, of which I still care and take care. Few minutes passed, I was surprised to see that I finished the transfer, and I was still conscious. The pain was still going strong, so I shut of the computer, and I had gone back to sleep convinced that is the last one. No terror, just pain and desire to get rid of it. Oh, I forgot one. Three years ago some nasty gall blade stones forced me onto the surgery table. I was warned that even this type of surgery is the simplest and safest, because of my brain injury, is quite risky. But I had no option, the stone almost killed me anyway. So, even the suffocating anxiety brought to me fear of death, I was lying there, naked, surrounded by strangers, knowing that maybe those are my last moments, and I felt quite serene. Not the slightest fear. A million times worse was waking from the anesthesia, hours and hours of feeling suffocating. So, as I have said. Sure, there is terror for few minutes. Some even may have fainted and felt nothing, some maybe accepted the fate and felt nothing, but majority for sure screamed uncontrollably, and screaming helps. And for sure was bad, and no pleasant at all. But was short,and there are a lot of worse things. One example is lying in bed paralyzed. FOR YEARS. A neighbor did so, 2,5 meters precisely above my bed on the upper floor. and in the last three days screamed a lot. I hope you understand now what I was telling.

[@Cletus_the_Elder]

The subtitles and graphics work beautifully to tell this horrific story. We are left to imagine the panic and pandemonium in the cabin as the plane was making these maneuvers. I'm surprised that the pilots spoke so calmly. They did that one thing right. I wonder if now airplane dashcams will become popular in Russia, the same way car dashcams in Russia catch bad drivers.

[@peterclarke7240]

Russian dashcams became as popular as they are more because of the amount of people trying to claim insurance by pretending to get run over. Russian traffic infrastructure is so bad, that bad driving is almost inevitable. There was, bizarrely, a study done a few years back that discovered that, when Russian drivers drove on western European roads, their driving almost automatically improved. State sanctioned preventable traffic deaths. Mindblowing.

[@Nathalieduran93]

It’s because they’re Russian .. not afraid of anything 😂😂😂

[@TheRealitarian]

If, at 15-16 yrs old, I was offered to fly a plane in the dark loaded full of people, there's no way in hell I'd say yes.

[@julianvandenberghe7704]

I am 24 years old and my trained flight instructor brother offered me the controls of a prop plane just the 2 of us were in, which was built specifically to be stable in the air and hard to crash, and which he could take full control of at any time, and I still had to be talked into it

[@dillweed69]

Don't blame the kid. He probably thought his dad was superman -- cool outfit, everyone in awe of him, gets to sit up front and control the plane -- and therefore when his dad said "trust me", he trusted him.

[@TheRealitarian]

@@dillweed69 I didn't blame the kid. If I were to blame anyone, it would be the parent and not the child. I just said what I'd do in that situation.

[@microscopic.caterpill]

@@dillweed69 Nobody is ever that stupid at fifteen. I bet his daddy had many regrets in his last moment didn’t he

[@Kinobambino]

Right! Even if I studied air travel intently my hands would sweat. Even if I was competent I'm not practicing when other people's lives are at stake

[@clarsach29]

I saw this dramatised on an air crash documentary years ago and definitely the worst factor was that the pilots were unaware that the plane would self-correct if they stopped trying to fight it and just let go of the control column and sat back

[@fieraci8500]

The “worst factor” was that the arrogant idiot pilot let children into the cockpit and take turns at the controls while he manipulated the flight settings to show off and pretend that he was a big professional man. There were other officers in there with them. They allowed it to happen. What a great airline to hire staff like that. Way to go.

[@rudolfschenker]

@@fieraci8500 That's Russia for you.

[@leila1705]

wow..

[@Jamenator1]

The system puts in some nose down trim (similar to MCAS on the 737 Max) to help the nose come down and assist with stall recovery and to minimise a pitch up tendency at high speeds while manoeuvring (also similar to the Max). Generally aircraft require pilot input to hold them in a stall and will naturally recover if the controls are let go, this is just due to natural stability, not some special system, even a Cessna will do this. This aircraft is no different other than it has a system which provides a little bit of assistance. However it still requires pilot input to ultimately control the plane. It's similar to stability control on a car, you can't just let go of the wheel if you start to lose control and hope the system will do everything for you.

[@PARCE93]

It’s a lot like that Air France flight from Brazil to Paris. All the pilots needed to do was- nothing. And they would’ve been okay.

[@MrYfrank14]

I like how it was his son, not a pilot, who noticed the problems first.

[@gillianmurphy4280]

Shouldn't have let the kids at control's with so many innocent people on board unbelievable and stupid

[@hanhanlon4441]

It was his son who CAUSED the problem. He kept trying to steer it and forced the autopilot to overcorrect. At least the girl just barely touched the yoke. His cocky son was forcing it. I'm not excusing the dad, but he probably only meant for his kids to sit in the seat. Shouldn't have let them, but I'm sure he didn't expect the son to actually try to force the controls.

[@MrYfrank14]

@Hannah Hanlon - dad was the pilot. The first officer was a pilot. No matter what the son did wrong, dad should have noticed. The first officer should have noticed. The son was the only one who noticed something was wrong.

[@hanhanlon4441]

@@MrYfrank14 obviously the pilots are the ones people consider responsible. And if they hadn't died, they would've lost their licenses, the captain for sure.But how did the son notice that something was wrong? He was putting pressure on the yoke to try to get it to turn to where he wanted, so he could feel in control, so maybe the problem was noticed by default or incidentally, and yes, that autopilot system WAS problematic, no one would disagree. But I don't think that catastrophe would've happened if the son hadn't messed with the controls. He should've just sat in the seat for a few moments, like his sister, and then got his butt out of it without messing with anything. The father shouldn't have let either of them sit there, but technically, it WAS that kid's fault. HE actually manipulated the controls without asking permission from either pilot. He was sneaky. And neither of the pilot noticed until the plane went into a hard bank and by then, the G-forces were too strong, so they couldn't intervene. The son was putting barely noticeable pressure on the yoke that wouldn't have been visible to the mere eye.

[@MrYfrank14]

@Hannah Hanlon - I forget now exactly what the son said, but I think he noticed they were turning and asked his father. The father assumed the auto pilot was still flying the plane and didnt verify it.

[@celestemaria5645]

My fear of flying doesn’t come from concerns over the aircraft’s integrity but more so the risky actions in the cockpit. 😢

[@cbesthelper404]

Exactly. Human behavior is very unpredictable.

[@onethumbks]

This didn’t age well. Now that we know Boeing failed to put locking bolts in plug doors and have been skimping on quality control and hiring based on color/gender for years.

[@celestemaria5645]

@@onethumbks one type of plane with a faulty system. The accidents caused by pilot error are far greater.

[@jelvasch]

@@celestemaria5645 fun fact is u have more chance of experiencing a car crash then a plane crash. Most plane crashes on youtube are before 2005 wich was not the safest era for flying. Also the chance of dying in a car crash is 200.00 times bigger then the chance to die in a plane crash.

[@siamzero9480]

@@onethumbks The most deadly aircraft accidents are due to human error. None of the Boeing planes were responsible for the Tenerife disaster

[@andrethompson2034]

WHY, WHY would a pilot allow their kids to play with the controls at all. Total incompetence caused all of them their lives and left so many families in pain. Heartbreaking

[@PARCE93]

And still there’s people commenting that think it’s okay as long as you keep an eye on the child. How dense can you possibly be? This isn’t a golf cart for a kid to fool around in.

[@jakevendrotti1496]

to them I would say as long as it's okay for me to let my kid try doing open heart surgery on you. you don't play with other people's lives to entertain your f****** kid. these moron pilots killed everybody. what sad is there are so many competent hard-working pilots, and these doofuses show up every couple years

[@NickMC512]

Russia…

[@pedros1]

Soviet Union.

[@marlafowler3543]

Seems like the kids werent mostly at fault, cause had the pilot been good at his job, he had ample opportunity to correct the kids, & his mistakes.

[@DrTeddyMMM]

When these pilots allowed children to take control of this aircraft they gave up their duty as pilots and cast aside all the lives that were aboard that flight. I can't even imagine what was going through the minds of those passengers during the last minutes of that flight. You could hear the pilots let panic take over. This was truly a sad thing to watch.

[@CannabrannaLammer]

I didn't think they sounded panicked much at all

[@prettytopia]

@@CannabrannaLammer yeah they sounded panicked at first but later calmed when some of the danger seemed to have passed. They probably thought they'd make it ;(

[@DrTeddyMMM]

@@CannabrannaLammer Really? ... Listen at timestamp 9:00 plus look at the attitude of the aircraft, you think this was a smooth ride at this point? People onboard had to be wondering what the holy hell was happening.

[@Lex60]

I am still amazed that the pilot didn't ask the kid to move away after he pointed out the plane was acting funny. Is like your kid telling you that a bear is slowly approaching and instead of moving to a safe place, you stay there pondering why the bear is starting to bite your kid in the face.

[@DagmarHi]

Or that ur car is driving ahead with 200 km and in front is a wall🤷🏻‍♀️

[@sskhussaini]

​@@DagmarHiwhy is there a wall in front of us? Famous last words.

[@Nathalieduran93]

😂😅

[@drkphoenix097]

I think because they thought the co pilot could correct it or they were busy trying to figure out why it was banking rather than how much it banked. Then they experienced immense amount of G forces which made it harder to get the boy off to switch with his father

[@javiervz1]

G force had the kid pinned to the seat...

[@carlomatthews6676]

Parenting at its finest. A monument to human stupidity should be erected with the names of all those in the cockpit.

[@Jeffway24]

For me this might be the most annoyingly negligent and preventable plane crash I’ve seen on any KZbin aviation channel, and I really felt the stress of the situation while watching it. Love your channel!

[@stormy9568]

81st today. This is just heartbreaking to see how the Captain let his children take responsibility of all those people's lives, albeit for a short period of time, but that short period of time, cost them their lives.

[@MrSupercar55]

I know. If I was that pilot l would be ready to take my belt off as soon as my kid started reaching for the controls. A few lashings with a tough leather belt would stop kiddo from going anywhere near those avionics until he/she completes flight school.

[@Crisco8624]

no child would reach for anything unless allowed in the proximity of it... so take that belt and lash it against yourself as a pilot parent who allowed the kid to step inside the cockpit in the first place, let alone touch anything there... good to know where you stand on taking responsibility for your kids though... and how constructively you'd be showing them right and wrong...

[@thomasharper3338]

@@MrSupercar55 it seems like the pilot encouraged their behaviour, so smacking a kid around with a belt probably wouldn't do much. Nice, though

[@stormy9568]

The autopilot can only do so much, trusting it too much is also fatal.

[@tafnamtaf8909]

@@MrSupercar55 it's not the kids fault; he was invited to sit in the pilots seat: he just put more pressure on the control column which slightly deactivated the auto pilot; after a few minutes they could have swapped seats again before things got out of control

[@AnakinVeyder]

This is probably one of THE senseless tragedies in aviation history! Truly saddened.

[@aarongarcia1101]

I can just hear the safety meeting after this, "okay, so... no more kids in the cockpit, right."

[@LBCORP1960]

Sometimes when we see pilot error demonstrated in a plane crash we can find some excuse for why the pilot made that error. In this case, there is no excuse. This was just stupid. No, this was BEYOND stupid. Even stupid people would think “Bringing kids into the cockpit of a flying airliner is really stupid.” This crash deserves a new category. Instead of “pilot error” it should be called “pilot stupidity.” I mean, this was a SPECIAL KIND of stupid!

[@josephaldrich4023]

It's surreal

[@timonsolus]

This was before 9/11 changed the airline industry forever. In the 20th Century, allowing children to come and see the cockpit was not uncommon. What was very unusual was allowing a child to handle the pilot's yoke, even for pretend as in this case.

[@MyoclonicJerkCough]

Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?

[@whateveritis3103]

@@MyoclonicJerkCough i actually laughed at that, you brought some humour to a horrific situation. I'm not sure if that makes us both uncaring nutcases. Oh well.

[@muhammadomer4674]

Na beyond stupid combined with arrogance. And control freak etc.

[@tsepheletseka5115]

This was one of those "what the hell were they thinking" type of situations.

[@crazykittylady6226]

It's very heartbreaking that everyone on the plane had to die all because the pilot thought it would be funny to let his kids take over a little bit knowing he wasn't suppose to EVER do that and now families of the departed are going to always remember why this had to happen,this horrible day that really didn't have to happen and being able to do anything to get justice. I only wish the pilot was the only one to survive to live with his stupidity forever because his kids also died.

[@bobshanery5152]

There was like 7 other easily fixable things that would of stopped this. Children in the pilot seat was just one mistake.

[@pandemits]

That's why it is NEVER okay to break the safety rules and procedures

[@crazykittylady6226]

@Ron Isley well this story is very devastating that if I was a family member of a passed passenger, I would wish so much karma on the pilot if he was alive just so he would know how families of passed ones suffered. I know that's what you would of wanted if someone accidentally killed your loved one just because he wanted to be funny and do something very stupid knowingly its wrong on all levels AND justice would not be done for you because the person that killed your loved one also died from this stupidity that didn't have to happen at all. I hope you understand now what I'm trying to explain to you. You just put yourself in those families shoes and imagine (which I would NEVER would want to imagine, God forbid) and you would understand and just for the record I never once said I wanted those kids killed just like that, I only said for him to see his kids gone so he'll learn from his mistake that he would never be able to fix not even his family.

[@albatross8]

I think before they died behind the controls & into the poor dirt & innocent trees & shrubs these kids & dad of the kids were already dead to the world as in useless carcasses that needed to die & never ever reproduce 🎉

[@Coconutcreamyy]

@@albatross8 you’re a disgusting human being for saying something so foul. The DAD was at fault, not the children. Any kid would say yes to controlling a plane.

[@wwaynemcg]

Reminds me a bit of an Air Force crash where I was on the search/recovery team. Enroute there was scuttlebutt that it was an "incentive" flight that may have spouses and children aboard. Thankfully, no children but only a couple spouses. All aboard perished. An incident that I'll never forget these 40+ yrs later.

[@chiefcaptaincole9889]

You can make a case that TFC is the best Aviation KZbinr. The quality, and emotion in your videos is something many actual TV shows don’t have.

[@spiritmatter1553]

Watching the plane wobble and spin was truly terrifying. ✈️

[@frantzpierre8303]

Always gets me at the end when the music starts playing and it shows the plane still flying. Wives, husbands, mothers, fathers, brothers...entire generations lost. What could've been.

[@sealard2279]

Kid: Why does it turn by itself? Dad: It turns by itself? Kid: Yea Dad: But why? BRO YOU’RE THE PILOT, HE’S ASKING YOU

[@philj8205]

Idiot. He is thinking out loud and not actually asking his son that question. Are you kidding me?

[@GigaNetBoy]

In soviet russia, the pilot asks you! Ok, I know this is old...

[@sealard2279]

@@philj8205 🤡

[@microscopic.caterpill]

Nah fuck them both. The blood on their hands will be their trial in the after life especially the father. Dumb a** knew what he was doing hence saying how they’ll get fired if the kids are running in the first class. I feel sorry and bad for the passengers and cabin staff but absolutely nothing for the pilot. Maybe if he’s granted a next life, he’ll make better choices next time.

[@JimBobJoeB0b]

@@sealard2279 oh wow, a clown emoji, how original, what a lovely comeback!

[@ronylouis0]

the fact they recovered once and because the guy was distracted by the children still there he made the plane crash... insane

[@KrattarKrattar]

That kid - those very last seconds before they all die. I can’t even comprehend what kind of thoughts he must have had. What kind of blame he must have felt. Unfathomable.

[@NikkoBellic-sf6bo]

probably damn kid!

[@TonyPerez816]

This just makes my blood boil. The passengers had a horrific end to their lives after unspeakable terror of twisting and turning violently in the dark, because of the neolithic incompetence and insufferable arrogance of a pilot who somehow thought it was okay to let untrained minors anywhere near the flight deck. The fact that it took them that long to even realize they were in a hard right back and take any action shows unbelievably piss poor airmanship. Seriously, how did these fucking even become pilots and ever find themselves in a position fly aircraft in such maladroit fashion? Some think it wrong to say things about the deceased, but honestly, the universe saw that their presence was an issue and eliminated it. It's just a shame so many innocent people died for his lack of caring, competence, skill, and common sense.

[@6364LEGACY]

I agree with you 100%.

[@keithsy75]

My female cousin and I were allowed in. We just did not touch anyything.

[@switchblade720]

​@@keithsy75 you can just say cousin.

[@anonymoususer19]

@@switchblade720 yeah but she was female, dudes gotta be specific

[@switchblade720]

@@anonymoususer19 yeah but it literally does not matter to the story.

[@merchernel123]

Wow. Your simulation of this was incredible. This story is horrific, to be sure, but being able to see it this was truly incredible. Thank you for all the work you put into this.

[@reckontonottobemoved]

This not incredible

[@carollxo1019]

​@@reckontonottobemoved the simulation was, not the horrific incident, no.

[@jimjambananaslam3596]

I think it's just Microsoft Flight Simulator, but the way he reenacts everything to a high level of detail is still impressive.

[@luckylass5444]

My teenager wants to be a military pilot. I have him watch this channel to understand the responsibility he would be undertaking.

[@Deedat101]

Be careful you don’t scare him into not flying a plane after watching this channel lol

[@Huia87]

Good stuff, you're a mature and responsible parent. Not enough of these

[@harshadasiddaiah4441]

I want to be a pilot as well but I'm poor🥲😭😭

[@Deedat101]

@@harshadasiddaiah4441 go get a job then

[@sagartamang0000]

@@Deedat101 you won't be able to earn the amount to become a pilot with a job.

[@samxyx]

Of all the plane crash recreations I’ve seen online this one may have been the most preventable. Even after they realized the problem the pilots the pilots still seemed helpless to recover it

[@jimbotron70]

Probably full of vodka

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

I wouldn't allow a child to butter toast for me in the morning. Wait, here's a A310 aeroplane.

[@myke5696]

Umm not quite. Some 16 year olds can fly some planes given careful training. Here of course there was no training

[@nobody7817]

@@myke5696 Yeah...even the kid wasn't trained!

[@reidunbrown7971]

Stupid response!

[@chickendinner5572]

@@myke5696 really man?? Really? You know what he means. Plus 16 year old won’t have 8000 hours of flight time 😂

[@dannyh5937]

I just found this channel and although the stories are heartbreaking the way these videos are done is excellent. There's no spoken word but every episode is so riveting. I love the fact that the grammar is always perfect

[@trevorregay9283]

Sadly, you knew this would happen at some point in aviation history.....people are crazy when allowed too much authority sometimes...

[@trevorregay9283]

and at least no one on the ground was killed......very tragic and totally avoidable.....rules are made for a reason....so stuff like this NEVER happens....

[@jeri8853]

My dad, a pilot, took me with him a few times to a flight simulator. I was probably 10 or 11. He let me sit in it and see how long I lasted before I crashed. 😕

[@prettytopia]

How long did you last 😂?

[@jeri8853]

@@prettytopia I lasted 2-3 mins. Then red lights flashing and bells sounding loud! The first time I did it… alone in a flight simulator…. I thought I “broke” the plane !! 🥹

[@prettytopia]

@@jeri8853 good to know your dad had enough common sense not let it be a real flight, then. Fun for the kid and no lives lost - the way it should be!

[@sphenoidjjj]

​@@jeri8853😂😂😂😂😂

[@ApocalypseRogue]

Lost for words! Unprofessional is an under statement! RIP to the innocent passengers & crew.

[@Capecodham]

Lost for words? Apparently not.

[@detectivefiction3701]

The expression is "at a loss for words."

[@henrydenner5448]

Everytime I read about or see reenactments of it, my heart breaks. Eldar is my age. And the last words he heard from his father was "Go away Eldar". The whole thing is so senseless and the worst is that it was actually possible for all those lives to be saved in the end. Terribly sad situation.

[@rodmichael1994]

You sound very mature for your age , sound wiser with those few sentences than most adults here. Much respect,and keep on your path and you will have a beautiful life my young brother.🤝🕉

[@starrfishhill]

I agree w/Rod! God Speed

[@henrydenner5448]

@@rodmichael1994 Thank you very much for the compliment. Much appreciated. Best wishes and respect to you as well. Greetings and well wishes to @Starrfish Hill as well.

[@deepapatricia]

Let your good thinking stay to the end, Henry!

[@henrydenner5448]

@@deepapatricia ❤

[@fabiodriven]

I've never flown a plane but I watch a ton of these videos, and I'm astonished at how many pilots do not understand pitching up and stalling. So many of these crashes were so easily avoided by such a simple concept. In this case they actually recovered, they were all set from there, but then they decided to pull up and stall. That's incredibly stupid.

[@electricblade5727]

I know how you feel

[@RomanTheMexican]

ive been in some simulations, i know what you mean, but it would surprise you how many times the plane lies to you, or it kind of creates the illusion that if you don't pull up a little bit its going to drop all the altitude left. as you said a lot of crashes were avoidable, but sometimes its just not possible to recover, you pull up you stall, you don't pull up the plane hits the ground

[@RomanTheMexican]

i know this is a different case, but just wanted to remind you that there is some plane designs that don't just go into a normal stall, but actually leave the tail and ailerons without airflow, so it's no longer possible to push down the plane, it just falls like it didn't have wings

[@fabiodriven]

@@RomanTheMexican I'm speaking specifically about avoidable crashes. I've watched a lot of videos lately where there never would have been a crash if the pilot had just throttled up and leveled off. Get some speed and some airflow over the wings then gently climb out. All I can imagine is a panic mode of PULL UP PULL UP PULL UP in these people's heads, against the actions which would actually save them. I am a professional driver and in my experience there are people who simply do not understand driving and shouldn't be behind the wheel. They might make it through 15 years of driving, but one day they run into the simplest of variables and do the exact wrong thing and get somebody killed. Some people can do it, others can't. Flying appears to be no different. If someone allows panic to take over their thinking, the irrationality will bring that plane to the ground, not unavoidable physics. The "unavoidable physics" is far too often the product of a poor pilot who made mistakes in order to get to the point of no recovery options.

[@RomanTheMexican]

@@fabiodriven driving is a completely different world, but i think i get your point it's the airlines fault, they can't spend a couple million on training and stall-recovery classes on their pilots, even when they are rotting in money with their low quality shit service

[@modman287]

I remember as a very, very young kid my dad let me "fly" a 737 that was being retired to a boneyard. I couldn't have been older than 15, but I still remember having the controls in my hands and thinking of nothing but holding them as still as possible. The plane was completely empty, I remember being able to run up and down the aisles when they were flying. But even so, I could have easily ended it all with one misguided twist of the controls. Still, it would have only been us 4 dying, not an entire group of passengers, and I think my dad knew that.

[@kayze009]

The thing is 90% of piloting now is all done by autopilot, so the 9k+ hours that these pilots may have had would only equate to a couple hundred of real control, and that would be taking off and landing. So when it comes to knowing what to do in these types of situations it's hard to say.

[@williewonka1970]

My best friend is airline pilot but he is also aerobatic pilot. Knowing what the plane is doing and how to get it out of a bad situation is the key to being a safe pilot in command. RIP

[@juniorfan7a]

Thats Called Physics

[@pedros1]

Yes, but modern pilots use emulators to train in multiple accident conditions. See the latest incidents the most of them are purely technical so modern pilots can handle most of the situations to avoid a disaster

[@dezznutz3743]

Airbuses were brand new at the time and these pilots were not properly trained in just how technical their Auto-pilot system was at the time.

[@ladyville3]

Only flying in the sky with bunch of peoples life on the line. I don’t think most people would get on a plane with pilots that don’t know what they should do 99% of the time. Autopilot means don’t know what to do?

[@sirpatrickbikes]

Watching The Flight Channel has made me revaluate my decisions when choosing which airline to fly with. It's not just about price or comfort.

[@dreawelty]

Which airline do u recommend

[@NickMC512]

@@dreawelty A non-Russian one, obviously.

[@dezznutz3743]

Agreed. If Ive learned one thing from Flight Channel is all Russian and a few Middle Eastern airlines need to be completely avoided. I mean if Communist China has upped their safety record...Oh wait, a Chinese pilot just augured a plane into the ground because he was going to lose his job and a lot of honor. That makes 3 to avoid I guess.

[@JOShaugh87]

I’ve watched a ton of these videos, they are very well done. One thing I’ve realized is that a LOT of these accidents are caused by the most trivial of things. Bored pilots, fatigue, suicide… it’s wild! There was NO reason this should’ve happened.

[@a.florschutzcamplin9011]

And Stupidity.

[@Cajuux]

My dude, I wouldn't call suicide "trivial"

[@Vingul]

@@Cajuux lol, fair

[@3865ron]

Sure it was wrong to let the kids "fly" the plane but that wasn't what caused the accident. That is 100% on the pilots inability to correct what started out to be a minor issue.

[@MrQwertypoiuyty]

A chain of events, caused by inviting pilot's kids to the cockpit in the first place - which is a violation. Do you think that without the kids, the plane will crash? I do not think so.

[@Tori-di2cf]

The 16 yr old accidentally partially disengaging the autopilot was the start of this mess. I Don't blame the kids tho 🤷

[@-Ready-Player-One-]

But not for the kid flying the plane and accidentally turning off part of the auto-pilot, the minor issue would have never occurred for the pilots to correct.

[@bannedfor30daysonfacebook41]

@@MrQwertypoiuytyway to completely miss the guys point

[@timmy841212]

I like when you redo older videos with more information. This is one of the saddest crashes I read about and AVOIDABLE. 😢

[@dalemmmm]

I thought I saw this one before!

[@MrCrystalcranium]

This took place over 25 years ago...I've seen dozens of recreations...and it still gets me right in the chest. What a horrible last few minutes for those passengers, and Kurdinsky's children. Eldar had to have thought he had caused the plane to be seconds from crashing. That poor 16 year old boy in terror and unimaginable guilt when his life ended because his father was an absolute moron. The most terrifying thing is this crap still goes on. Third rate airlines ignoring regulations but this one...just unbelieveable. What was Kurdinsky thinking and why the hell didn't the other adults in the cockpit stop him? Eldar was the first one on the flight deck to notice the plane was misbehaving? Are you kidding me? Just awful.

[@shellyraymond4337]

But the kid still wouldn't listen to his father and get out of the cockpit!

[@MrCrystalcranium]

@@shellyraymond4337 He was yelling at him to get out of the left seat but he couldn't because of the G forces. There's a lot more to this crash than was shown and described here.

[@ZeroGravity23]

28 years ago

[@jenna6421]

@@shellyraymond4337 what for? The problem was already caused. Leaving the cockpit wouldn’t make a difference. And as someone else stated: g-forces prevented him from doing so.

[@SUNFlower-tt9zv]

Relief pilot was moron and his children too

[@sideeffects6570]

This story is so sad. I can feel the panic in the pit of my stomach as I watch this and hear them try to save the plane and themselves . Rip.

[@alef9366]

Used to frequently fly to Russia, some fifteen years ago, often traveling with Aeroflot. The rumor among frequent flyers was that Russian pilots were avoiding to use autopilot, also as a result of this horrible deadly incident. The Russian authorities had in fact concluded that the main reason for the incident was the unpredictable behavior of the autopilot... and in turn had recommended autopilot be used as little as possible....

[@mybiz2167]

OMG.. Of course Russia had to blame something other than its own dumbass people, who actually were the ones who brought down the plane by being totally irresponsible and uneducated. I say uneducated because a GOOD pilot knows how the autopilot works on the plane he/she is flying.

[@Menachem59]

That is in accordance with the Russian mindset. We see how the focus on so many of their problems is seldom on base.

[@darkfoxjj]

Autopilot causes the plane to get into a dangerous bank because it cannot keep its flight path. And then into a stall after the pilot tries to compeneate. Sure the child was holding the controls, but the autopilot turned it into a bizarre incomprehensible situation.

[@VictorbrineSC]

@@darkfoxjj The autopilot does EVERYTHING in its power to keep the plane flying. By having the kid hold on the stick and then the pilot not understanding the situation correctly, this overwhelmed the autopilot, shutting it down. It's not the autopilot's fault, it's just a robot. As shown in the end of this video, the pilots should have either: -Forced Eldar out of that fucking seat way sooner and just let the autopilot do its thing -The F.O. should have pulled up more gently since they still had enough altitude to get out of this situation

[@oskar6661]

I think it says a lot, that some 80 years ago, 90% of aircraft crashes were caused by aircraft failure, and around 10% were pilot error. Today, some 90% of aircraf crashes are caused by pilot or crew negligence...and only 10% caused by abrupt aircraft failure. Complacency kills, as we always say.

[@adotintheshark4848]

including some crashes that were cause by technology designed to make the planes "human error proof".

[@CKSeams]

This just means airplanes have gotten more reliable to the point where it's almost always human error that is the cause. The airplanes are almost never a factor anymore which skews the perception.

[@darcanx]

That's just a false equivalence

[@CKSeams]

@@darcanx I don’t think I learned that one in my logic class, but makes sense.

[@AJ-zv9tn]

also a lot more crashes back then

[@LoowheezeBreeze]

Imagine you're a passenger on the plane, and you see a couple of kids head into the cockpit, and then 5 minutes later the plane is inverted, racing towards the ground... You'd definitely be thinking one of those kids is piloting the plane in between your terrified screams

[@Theresa-yo2sf]

The visual assisted the story really well and made the process of what happened understandable.

[@carolkahn8596]

After watching every amazing video, and feeling that awful gut punch so many times, this one really kills me. You know that boy felt emotions no one should ever have to feel, let alone as a child. And the panic in the cockpit coupled with what must have been happening in the cabin is hard to fathom. No matter what, this channel is doing a service to all of us. We have to face fear to survive it and someone out there is learning from this.

[@silviabelluomini2456]

Are you seriously feeling sorry for the stupid kid ?? It's HIS fault all those people died! I just wish he and his irresponsible father had survived, just to live the rest of their useless lives feeling the weight of the guilt.

[@wardaddy6002]

I learned not to ride a plane that orcs are flying.

[@LearnAccountingLightningFast]

This channel is just so amazing. The creator is so talented, it’s one of the most captivating shows on TV and internet history combined. Standing ovation!

[@scottgraydon8690]

Wonder what the passengers were thinking when suddenly they were upside down. I know at least one person didn’t have theirs on and just fell to the ceiling. Nicely put together 👌 RIP

[@dingusmcscrungophd5219]

The forward ecelleration would have kept them in their seat, but it would have felt weird.

[@Powerranger-le4up]

I saw it on Air Crash Investigation. That was a horrible and really stupid decision by that relief captain.

[@TheLesserWeevil]

I've mentioned this once before I think, but I would love to see you spend more time on the the post-crash investigation. What regulations were changed? Who was found at fault?

[@TheJillianRussell]

Yes, especially since they've already done a video on this crash in the past. Give us some new info at least!

[@marybarry2230]

Check out the Smithsonian Channels' "Air Disasters" program. They did this particular crash on one of their episodes. They do go into the investigation and why the plane crashed and how to prevent this from happening again!

[@anthonywilliams9852]

@@marybarry2230 never let kids into the cockpit again must be 1 of the recommendations.

[@marybarry2230]

@@anthonywilliams9852 I believe so!

[@PlayshotKalo]

@@anthonywilliams9852 when I was on school trips in Alaska in the 90s, we'd fly on Cessnas with like 10 passenger seats and only one pilot would fly us with an empty co pilot seat. It was normal for one of the students to have to sit in the cockpit in the co pilot seat if there weren't enough passenger seats for everyone and nobody thought it was a big deal. Nowadays I never see that happen and there's always 2 pilots flying the Cessnas now. Wonder if this specific tragedy changed that

[@andybazz3694]

My dad was part of a crew of a 747 . I went to New York with him in 2000 . I got to sit behind the pilot taking off and landing and the only thing I could touch was a headset , that the captain gave me. Just listening to ATC was more than enough for me. What were they thinking 🤔 RIP all those onboard

[@LoponStormbased]

That's not even cool with me. To just trust a child to not do something, possibly accidentally, is too much for me. If I saw a child walk into the cockpit, I'm getting the hell off the plane or making a scene if I can't, especially after this.

[@MegaMaxiepad]

Reminds me of the movie Airplane, with the kid in the cockpit and the infamous, inflatable autopilot.

[@kathyh4804]

How horrific! Can you imagine the terror of the passengers??!!!! It’s extremely sad that the pilot broke regulation! So many lives could have continued I understand a proud dad wanting to show his children the cockpit but NOT letting them take control of the plane even on “autopilot”! So heartbreaking 🌹

[@firefeethok_tui2355]

My heart is pounding so hard watching this. My s.o. Is a pilot. I cant even imagine. this is unbelievably sad. Video done very well. So sorry for all those people.

[@apostledavidetaylorcultwatch]

I just randomly was suggested this video. Not something I would normally watch or be interested in, but the video was so well made, informative and sad. RIP to all passengers and crew. Well done channel owner!

[@johndoe5816]

Was the music at the end a bone chilling finish or what? Well made video. Senseless tragic accident. RIP to everyone onboard, especially the helpless passengers and cabin crew.

[@Dash8Q400Channel]

As unprofessional as it gets, both my sons have been in the cockpit when its parked and shut down that is. I really dont understand why anyone would allow a child to sit in any of the pilots seats in the air its beyond idiotic and shows a complete disregard for his passengers safety and his kids also.

[@evehosgood]

Broke my heart when the son was being told to go away 😢 He should not have been put in that position in the first place

[@xuseyourillusion1507]

The son being told to go away is what broke your heart…. Lol really?

[@evehosgood]

@@xuseyourillusion1507 For god sake 🤦‍♀️ obviously not the only thing that broke my heart, I have kids the same age and hearing him being told to go away when he was petrified and was put in that position by his own father just hit a personal cord

[@graciegjj]

What about one last ass whooping before the plane hit the ground..

[@perniciouspete4986]

@@graciegjj Yeah, the pilots really needed one of those.

[@graciegjj]

@@perniciouspete4986 😁😢🤕😔

[@kikoarmani]

This Is unimaginable horror ! I can't imagine the terror in every soul on board

[@garypalmer1122]

I flew on some crappy Yugoslavian airline many years ago - both it and the country no longer exist. Probably the most scary experience of my life. The pilot probably thought he was a fighter pilot or something in the way he threw the plane around. It actually ruined my vacation because I knew that I had to fly back with them on the way home...

[@EIRE55]

Although I've heard about this before, my heart was pounding out of my chest whilst watching this. The passengers must have been absolutely terrified beyond our imagination during this whole period! Very sad and, unfortunately, very stupid and irresponsible of those pilots.

[@Capecodham]

Mostly everybody heard about it before. except Jacken.

[@Capecodham]

@Jacken I made the correction

[@RobertSmith-jd7yx]

Every child that complains of taking a test should see this and realize, having to show real confirmation that you know something is imperative sometimes. These pilots, didn't show a simple understanding of the plane controls.

[@MrBaadshah2000]

I’m a child and this is why I support test taking.