Pilots Can't Control the 737 MAX...

A new proposed airworthiness directive (AD) by the FAA highlights more control issues on the 737 MAX and shines a light on Boeing's poor quality control... #737max #boeing #aviation #planespotting #airbus #787 #737 #airplane #avgeek #boeing737 #faa

[@azmalkhan01]

The problem is corporate greed over quality and safety

[@Cookiplayz]

Like the guy who worked for Boeing was found dead in his car due to “suicide” . While sueing Boeing for cutting corners . Media dosent talk about it

[@Phat737]

That’s only half the problem. The other half is they’re DE& I hires that past 5 years at Boeing and all of there suppliers.

[@antoniodelgado3036]

​@@Phat737???

[@ExploringCabinsandMines]

Sounds like a repeatable cliche your mom told you.

[@JO-bw5wx]

Make the elite to fly Boeing like all of usand stop them flying their private plane. Then they will care more.

[@buckeyemania09]

This is what happens when the FAA allows companies to check their own work

[@thadsmith4909]

That could work well, assuming that the FAA does audits to verify that the checks are being done properly and thoroughly. Methinks they aren't there yot.

[@FreedomLovin]

That's actually the exact opposite way to see the problem. The government is in bed with Boeing, FAA will turn the other way and is completely useless in this case where Boeing has a near monopoly, thanks to government playing favorites in the market. Boeing would get CRUSHED if we actually had a free market in air travel. We don't.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

The FAA doesn't have the resources to check Boeing's work...

[@buckeyemania09]

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 they had the resources before, but they stopped giving Boeing oversight and therefore stopped using money dedicated to giving Boeing more oversight

[@karpabla]

​@bobbygetsbanned6049 They would have the capability if the Public Administration wanted it. Public regulators always can use whatever means and time is required. And if it is not possible, the product or procedure is not approved until it is achieved. By definition , regulators have to have the upper hand, especially when human safety is in play. Ok, I know that IRL politicians are in the bed with big corporations. (Boeing, Big Pharma,...)

[@cooldud11122]

I remember reading a Reddit threat of a former Boeing engineer. He mentioned how the higher ups were firing the engineers who weren’t giving the “go ahead” on certain designs. They’d bring in a new guy that would bend the knee for the corporate overlords. And here we are with planes that aren’t built with absolute precision.

[@gb1575]

The main problem is the executives moved headquarters away from the engineering site. Engineers were no longer included in the decision making process because of greed, safety took a back seat.

[@BlindBiker3]

The whole problem is the FAA and government. Boeing is not part of the problem, they are who government has decided to target.

[@user-yt9id8zq3g]

I never understood the move

[@Lrsk_]

One question, I'm flying on one soon (737), should I change plane or will it be okay, it is around a 4,4 and a half hour flight?

[@newyorkernewjersey]

@@Lrsk_ wear seatbelts as the doors might fly off :)

[@michaelstevens3618]

@@Lrsk_you will be fine. I’ve flown on them multiple times, and I’ll Fly on them again. Just flew on one in February on American Airlines 4 hour flight. They are honestly quiet and fine. The pilots aren’t going to take off if they don’t feel confident in the aircraft.

[@SUPERMAMA-od7kk]

This is what happens when money becomes your priority, not safety or quality

[@papatango2362]

Or probably because this a fault with Spirit Aerosystems and is being incorrectly blamed on Boeing. Also, stop overreacting. Any system as complex as an airliner will inevitably have faults be exposed later down the line. It is inevitable. Boeing is still very safe. Also why do you not pay attention to fuel tank issues with the A321XLR, paint issues with the A350 or the Pratt & Whitney issues on the A320neo family. Flaws will be discovered and things will break. It is inevitable; and if that concerns you, don’t fly at all.

[@sabba5785]

@@papatango2362well said bro. Well said 👏

[@Jake-1234]

​@papatango2362 But the difference is how many issues with Boeing were I'm the past 2 or 3 months compared to the airbus issues. I would say faulty door plugs are more serious than paint jobs, and the a321 xlr is not in service yet.

[@Jake-1234]

​@papatango2362 However, I do genuinely understand what you are saying as almost all the issues with Boeing aircraft are problems with the assembly which is why Spirit aerosystems should be held accountable but at the same time if there are this many problems surely they would stop manufacturing with spirit aerosystems

[@teddythefire]

@@papatango2362 Spirt was once a part of Boeing, then split from the company, so the same still applies. The a321XLR isn’t even certified, pick on it when it’s in service. I get your point with the a350 and you can talk bout it, but the 737 has had repeats over and over again, from MCAS to this. Also the P&W issues are completely separate unlike your claim of Boeing and spirt

[@user-nf4sd4ss3o]

And the former Boeing engineer whistle blower also found dead..... just a coincidence?

[@tomstarzeck7137]

62 years old ..extremely suspicious circumstances..not to mention 30 years with Boeing

[@user-nf4sd4ss3o]

@@tomstarzeck7137 Appears to be mafia style execution 😳

[@hongsienkwee537]

According to Boeings algorithm it had nothing to do with them

[@jwilson2500]

They want it obvious enough to deter any more like him

[@billolsen4360]

@@user-nf4sd4ss3o Thank YOU, Inspector!

[@AI_Paul]

I remember when people didn't want to fly on an Airbus because of reliability issues. How times have changed.

[@alanhinkel420]

And it will eventually go back to Airbus. That’s how it works. I don’t have any issue flying Boeing. The chance of anything happening, slim. Even if the spoiler deployed. It’s not going to lead to a crash unless the pilots are asleep.

[@Trad_chad1122]

What we have learned over the years with past plane crashes is that even the tiniest, simplest defects (when ignored or overlooked) can lead to catastrophic failure.

[@ciroalberto397]

You missed the opportunity to name the video something like "spoiler alert: another problem for the max 9"

[@KwakuAddoDanquah]

I mean, you won’t get another great opportunity than this 😂😂😂

[@jantjarks7946]

Oh, it's Boeing after all, they sure will deliver more opportunities. ... nvm.

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

It's a problem with all MAX variants

[@juliemanarin4127]

Lol!!! Good one!

[@user-yo3vt7ft1p]

Good one!

[@user-gj9ft7cn4h]

Well looks like the Boeing 737 MAX is the DC-10 of the 21st century.

[@Cynderfan35]

legit same case: plane that tries to kill you every time you fly it

[@lrg3834]

The MAX has had more issues than the 10. They fixed the 10. The verdict is still out on the MAX.

[@patton303]

It’s way worse. Most of the DC-10’s problems were engine issues. But it was a solid and reliable airframe.

[@Gan596]

​@@patton303the cargo doors would have disagreed

[@Michael-sb8jf]

Both designed by brought to you by Mcdonald Douglas Edit McDonnell for some reason auto corrected to McDonald's I think it fits better

[@zaram131]

The FAA also needs to be investigated.

[@brnmcc01]

Yeah, there was too many of them on site, and in bed, with Boeing at the plants.

[@drew8256]

Massive lawsuits is the only thing these profiteers understand. Sue them into bankruptcy!

Boeing will always be propped up but US government. There is no chance they will go bankrupt

[@Gstv76]

LOL Boeing brings in billions of dollars a year. Not going to work!

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

Will you pay for the workers salary? Because a lot of people are going to loose their jobs if Boeing fails. Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of Boeing but surely there is a middle ground between this and " sueing to bankruptcy"... I mean, Airbus is doing fine, having profit and doing safe planes.

[@steveweidig5373]

They won't understand because it's just the company that gets the lawsuit. It simply doesn't affect the suits, and if it does, then just in the shape of a golden parachute. How about making the executives personally accountable (as in, they have to pay for the damages, not the company they ruined, plus jail time), then they would learn

[@mrmeeseeks8453]

Well someone's gotta make military aircraft

[@mrock828]

I saw an interview with a Boeing employee that was asked if he would fly on the plane he was building. After a pause he said no.

[@edwardfiorvante6123]

How would you rate this comment KZbin put on your comment. I put EXCELLENT! Then KZbin asks WHY with different answer to click. I clicked other! KZbin didn’t of course ask to clarify other BECAUSE I WOULD Have PUT……. BECAUSE ITS TRUE!!!! KZbin is turning into LIBERAL GARBAGE!!! GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT IS WHAT YOUR GET KZbin IF YOU HAVE CERTAIN VIEWERS THAT VIEW CERTAIN CHANNELS!!! SO YOUR GONNA GET ANSWERS FROM MOSTLY ONE PERSPECTIVE AND YOU HEN WHAT…….. BAN FREE SPEECH!! HERE YOU GO KZbin “I would absolutely not fly a Max airplane,” Ed Pierson, a former senior manager on Boeing's 737 program, told the LA Times. “I've worked in the factory where they were built, and I saw the pressure employees were under to rush the planes out the door.Feb 1, 2024

[@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII]

Was he the same guy who got suicided?

[@mrock828]

@@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII I don't know, the interview I saw was from 7 or 8 years ago, a while back. I guess employees have been concerned about build quality for years now.

[@SampsonGG]

Yea and the pause was only theatrical to reinforce the idea that they had thought long and hard about it All of the people working on these planes from top to bottom have said for years that they won't fly on them. There was no thinking required to answer that question

[@mrock828]

@@SampsonGG nope, you are correct..... He knew his answer.

[@allengarcia00]

Yeah honestly they should scrap the whole fucking plane, start again from scratch, and never give it the max name ever again

[@jantjarks7946]

4 missing bolts on an old plane design is different from 4 missing bolts on a new clean sheet plane design? The door plugs have been around since the 707, the technology is proven to be safe. It only became a safety hazard due to Boeing's subterranean safety standards. The 33 product audits failed from 89 speaks volumes about Boeing's unfixable unsafety culture. The 787 was just the beginning from what we see now as a result.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

@@jantjarks7946And what about Airbus’s issues such as those with its landing gears or fuel tanks? How come the spotlight is on Boeing so much?

[@jantjarks7946]

aycc-nbh - Should I start with the criminal conspiracy with the MAX crashes until today of what is happening with Boeing's? It's already difficult to get a comprehensive list together already how Boeing cannot get its act together. 2024 was supposed to be a good year for Boeing, that worked out... And the list is about certified planes. Unlike the Airbus, where the EASA is doing its job without cosy relationships in politics or Boeing's FAA. As such, why are you even raising the fuel tank redesign? That's exactly what a certification is about, to find safety concerns. Do you really want me to point at the 777X certification process so badly? Let me guess, Boeing's FAA couldn't find any safety concerns before certification of any Boeing plane? The latest issue with a certified Boeing plane seems to be the inability of Boeing to exchange a simple switch since 2017, when the issue with the 787 pilot seats popped up first. Instead LATAM had to deal with it and more than 50 people injured. Does Boeing always have to wait until finally an incident happens before getting its act together?

[@aycc-nbh7289]

⁠@@jantjarks7946What do you mean by EASA having no relation with Airbus? It would only be in their rational self-interest to have one with them, since harming one of the two major passenger airplane manufacturers in the world would mean they would be collecting less money from overflight fees and other fees related to airports and air travel. I’m raising the fuel tank design because it would only mean Airbus is not designing the safest aircraft they can and they are facing just as significant of problems as Boeing or at least somewhere in the ballpark. And wasn’t the area that B787 flew over known for being turbulent to begin with? An A330 also experienced something similar recently, so it may not have been something related to the aircraft.

[@jantjarks7946]

@@aycc-nbh7289 There are enough aeroplane businesses building jets which will pay overflight fees, no need to cozy up like Boeing's FAA. And you are raising the fuel tank design as it's the only way to deflect from Boeing's unsafety culture and the criminal conspiracy they committed. Fun fact, Airbus is addressing it within the framework of the certification process, like any other aeroplane producer has to do it. Boeing is addressing its issues with criminal conspiracies and serious air travel incidents instead. You deflecting with Airbus shows how weak your argument really is. Just for your information, the DoJ has launched another criminal investigation into Boeing. As such, no one comes even close to the criminal behavior of Boeing. And a faulty switch on pilot seats, that should have been reworked since 2017, has nothing to do with turbulence. You asked why the spot light is on Boeing and you got your answer. Now it's up to you to accept reality or not.

[@fgrau7376]

I wish there was a follow up!!! The problem was corrected on the only one it affected the Max 9 with a 20 min software update

[@Jesus_Muslim_]

Airbus headed by an engineer. Boeing headed by an accountant.

[@govols1995]

If it's Boeing, I'm not going.

[@steveo601]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Calebs_Aviation]

Me too! 😊

[@TPB-OPA]

If it's airbus, you must.

[@shahriar4526]

Just if it’s a max 777 -300ER 747 737 757 are capable aircrafts

[@shantiboiii]

Wow never heard that response before.

[@LEON.1717]

Not as dangerous as whistle blowing.

[@gdok6088]

Yeah, the guy said if he died it wouldn't be suicide. He died the next day.

[@jokuvaan5175]

Former quality manager or something. Has been speaking against Boeing for 7 years and trying to get them accountable. He finally succeeded in getting a court case and is found dead the day before his testimony in court

[@LEON.1717]

@@gdok6088 Move along, nothing to see here. …..

[@philipfan]

“I don’t always fly in a Boeing airplane, but when I do, I always bring my own toolbox onboard” - every most interesting person in the world.

[@medjed2511]

It's not poor quality control.. It's criminal negligence.

[@Naijsim]

POV:When you hire a business man to be the ceo of an ENGINEERING firm. This is exactly how McDonnell Douglas fell.

[@billstrasburg384]

How could an engineer possibly operate as a CEO? Did that actually make sense in your head before you typed it out for the entire internet to see? What do you think CEOs do, sit on the computer running CAD/CAM software all day?

[@firstlegoleague8]

@@billstrasburg384 your stupidity is absolutely astonishing, look no further then Nvidia's CEO, my father is also another example. there is no "bachelor of CEO". the arrogance you exude whilst being simultaneously wrong is actually mind numbing. please take your own advice "Did that actually make sense in your head before you typed it out for the entire internet to see?"

[@Naijsim]

@@billstrasburg384 No, but at least the decisions an honest engineering ceo makes, will come from a place of expertise. Besides, haven't you ever seen an engineering graduate with a degree in business administration???

[@feonor26]

​@@billstrasburg384Do you honestly think a engineer can't be a CEO?? Former CEO of BP Oil is an engineer. My friend who is the CEO of his own company with 100 employees is an engineer.

[@g.i.520]

🎉

[@Adrian.Luan.]

Im going to take a flight: 😄 Its a boeing plane: 🙂 Its the 737: 😰 max.: 💀

[@lon3don]

Stay home

[@richard--s]

Didn't they say, they removed the word "max", for some reasons? ;-) So, when it's a 737-8 or 737-9, we know what it is... ;-)

[@BlindBiker3]

Government is the problem.

[@bebop34]

Lol 🤣

[@koharumi1]

Nah more like: It is a Boeing plane: 😨 It is a 737: 😰 Max: 💀

[@cjdavis3247]

This isn’t strictly a Boeing problem in their defense, I personally think they should go out of business, but the FAA needs to be punished severely also

[@DexteruL]

If it's Boeing, i ain't going

[@yewenyi]

Well, I don’t know what the problem is. I mean missing doors, falling off wheels, spoilers deploying accidentally, just a normal day at the office…

[@rais1953]

And sudden diving towards the Tasman Sea throwing 50 passengers to the roof...

[@Zwaolin]

You forgot the unpredictable autopilot, because the engines were too large.

[@jasono2139]

...and today a panel "just fell off" a 737 departing San Francisco. 🤦

[@yewenyi]

You know, I was always told that flying is dangerous. Boeing are just out to prove it.

[@rais1953]

@@jasono2139 Was that a MAX?

[@ProAviation1000]

That's 5 scandals just for the 737. We've got rudder hardovers, MCAS, panels falling off, engine failures, and now this.

[@gravethebeyond]

just five more. and I got bingo.

[@mostbeautifulroads9789]

What about the engine anti-ice that can't be turned on for more than 5 minutes or the engines take damage? (Okay that's probably the engine manufacturers fault but still ...)

[@Gantiz]

And 2 dead whistleblowers

[@Gantiz]

My brother works on those engines. It's the mount that's the problem, made by Boeing.

[@shellyrgarcia2205]

omg the MCAS...that was crazy.

[@mrk5579]

- After takeoff checklist please - Landing Gear? - Retracted - Flaps? - Up, no lights - Spoilers? - Deployed - WHAT?? - What?

[@cun7us]

How any aircraft manufacturer can skimp on safety is truly reprehensible. The FAA and US government needs to have a thorough inquiry into how Boeing handles its business.

[@cooking_phil]

FAA and US government are already heavily involved in the whole process....

[@Plathianloner]

The FAA and Boeing are in bed together. Nothing can be accomplished.

[@MemeoBerlin]

Pilots are gonna be getting spoiler alerts pretty soon

[@marcariotto1709]

That's a good one😂😂😂😂

[@jamesbennett3521]

😂😂😂

[@collinsmwaura1833]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@SaveAmerica492]

😂🤣😂🤣 Bravo!!

[@maxzifyfn7820]

I swear we waiting for another disaster to happen before someone actually takes action

[@juliemanarin4127]

Yes ...money. money money

[@BlindBiker3]

Government needs to get out of it, and then Boeing can fix it as they should, If there even is a problem, government causes the problem with the regulations. Government just needs to get out of it, let the people who know how to build planes ,BUILD PLANES. Boeing is a fantastic American company.

[@BlindBiker3]

@@juliemanarin4127 it’s not about money, it’s about power prestige in control the government employees want so badly, every FAA worker, as well as Joe Biden. They should all be held personally liable for the issues that they have caused.

[@ED-es2qv]

​@@BlindBiker3government is not stopping Boeing from making a good plane. You're nuts.

[@BlindBiker3]

@@ED-es2qv that’s not nuts, ITS TRUTH! All it takes is to put the nightly news on to see the government and government employees are working against the people again, they always do. In this case, Boeing is a great American company who makes planes right, and they are trying to do their job, but FAA and FAA employees have decided that they don’t want Boeing anymore, they want boeing out of existence, and the employees done away with, FAA employees. Don’t want a prosperous America, they don’t want America to exist. In my own life, government has been very abusive, I live it every day, they are Heynis abusive evil sinister people. and all FAA employees failed America. FAA doesn’t know how to build airplanes, Boeing does, and they do it well. It’s government regulation the blocks them from making fantastic product, if any problem, and since the product is regulated, if something goes wrong, the FAA in regulators and employees should be at fault personally as well as Joe Biden personally. Boeing is a great company, let freedom fly.

[@rdl737]

I’ve logged hundreds of hours in the Max 8 and haven’t had a single problem. Very nice machine.

[@chuckwain5591]

Yea it is fashionable to knock Boeing and the 737, I guess it generates clicks. I see lots of issues on the news that are "Boeing" problems that are actually poor maintenance or other manufacturers issues. Example if there is an engine problem on a Boeing aircraft it is not Boeing's fault, Boeing does NOT build engines. Wheels falling off, maybe the airline mechanics that serviced the aircraft should be scrutinized .

[@konkerouf]

@@chuckwain5591 they are the ones assembling and selling the plane. Final QC round falls on them

[@Chevyman02]

​@@konkeroufit's just like buying a new truck, alot of the truck manufacturers don't build their own powertrains(engines, transmissions, rear-ends). You have a problem, you take it to the dealership and blame the truck manufacturer, but it's actually who built the components that broke.

[@lillianmacaluso469]

​@@konkeroufwrong! Aircraft manufacturing is totally different than automotive. They build the plane and you purchase your choice of engines like RollsRoyce, GE, Pratt&whitney etc if the engine blows up in flight Boeing has absolutely nothng to do.

[@Tourn4x4]

They’re called Speed Brakes, and they’re meant to be deployed in flight to slow the plane down, there is an “ARM” Feature when it sees certain parameters they deploy anyway I don’t see what the big deal is 🙈

[@craigenputtock]

"If it's Boeing, I'm not going."

[@milesaway3699]

Original

[@tygoins3156]

Every plane of that type should be grounded until recertification by the FAA.

[@emaro6095]

The only problem with that is, the FAA let's boeing certify their own planes. In a lot of ways, the FAA is just as guilty.

[@garrnk]

​@@emaro6095yeah that got changed faa took that away from them.

[@floridaheat305]

They will just keep giving the FAA money under the table to cover it up

[@MrNordpole]

It takes 5-6 weeks to do a big check for a plane by a team of people. Almost Everything is taken out, whole inside, walls too, parts of the outside panels. Everything where cables, motors and electrical is going. Engines too. It happens after a big number of hour and landings. It’s really something impressive to see. So imagine they have to do 1500 planes, you need 1/2 year and over 1000 certified people I guess?

[@BigAngryPhil]

Ignorant

[@johnstumph303]

The problem is the media needs to have a story that grabs the attention of the public. All aircraft, at least commercial use flight spoilers to help turn the airplane. You can watch an airbus, and does the same thing as a Boeing with the flight spoilers deploying and flight.

[@kentfrederick8929]

A friend of mine is a 737 captain, flying both the NG and the MAX. He argues that for all of the peoblrms with the MAX, there isn't enough money to get him into the cockpit of a Scarebus, I mean Airbus. He knows too many Airbus pilots who have told of situations where an A300 or A319/20/21 has done something that the pilots did not command the aircraft to do. It's the over-automation.

[@ACPilot]

That’s why they are referred to among pilots as the Scarebus..

[@alphamalegold]

They just can’t seem to get it right

[@henryairconcepts2999]

Let China make it right 😂

[@TheOzthewiz]

The "Dreamliner" is turning into a "Nightmare"!

[@michaeldunham3385]

​@@TheOzthewizdifferent aircraft

[@postersm7141]

Yeah, and now they found the whistleblower dead shot in the head in a hotel parking lot before he was getting ready to testify. Yeah cause that’s not suspicious at all.

[@Mr1121628]

@@postersm7141I mean it could still easily be explainable as suicide. Almost every family ever when interviewed following a loved one’s suicide says “oh they were doing so well. They never would have killed themselves.” So that’s not very unique. Also it’s not like this guy was the lynchpin to finding Boeing responsible. Their stock price has tanked due to all the incidents and recalls and whatnot. It wouldn’t make much sense to murder the guy at this point.

[@KevinEnjoyer]

Let's not forget that the MAX is the first 737 to get digital controls over the spoilers. I'm concerned now.

[@cm1133]

“If it’s Boeing, we’re not going” is my family’s motto.

[@israelcano]

This is what happens when the engineer CEO of Boeing gets replaced with an accountant.

[@spearmintt1342]

amazing how the 737-x00 planes are just better than the 737 maxes in literally every possible way

[@noahd.4551]

@@nickshawn11 It's not? The 737-400 already exists. It was part of the second generation of 737s.

[@midcenturymoldy]

@@nickshawn11 “The 737-400 design was launched in 1985 to fill the gap between the 737-300 and the 757-200, and competed with the Airbus A320 and McDonnell Douglas MD-80. It stretched the 737-300 another 10 ft (3.05 m) to carry up to 188 passengers.[13] It included a tail bumper to prevent tailscrapes during take-off (an early issue with the 757), and a strengthened wing spar. The prototype rolled out on January 26, 1988, and flew for the first time on February 19, 1988. The aircraft entered service on September 15, 1988, with launch customer Piedmont Airlines (25 aircraft ordered). The last two Boeing 737-400s, the last Boeing 737 Classics, were delivered to CSA Czech Airlines on February 28, 2000. The 737-400 was replaced by the 737-800 in the Boeing 737 Next Generation family.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_Classic

[@nickshawn11]

@@noahd.4551 it appears I was misinformed, thanks for the correction

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

Give me a 737-800 over a 737 MAX 8 anyday

[@UltimateSeduction]

Any x00 over the max. I'll even fly an old 707 or 727 when it's maintained well over any max series.

[@BenjaminVestergaard]

That's not a problem, it's a feature. It scares the crap out of the pilots so they don't dare to fall asleep in the cockpit.

[@donfisher8035]

Black humor is oddly appropriate.

[@TSERJI]

lol

[@ElAye]

😂

[@stargazeronesixseven]

🙏 Pityful for those Airlines Captains , Copilots & Passengers still flying the dangerously misbehaved B737 Max 8 ...

[@Sebastianvan-rp3st]

Meanwhile Airbus in the background eating popcorn*

[@tomrogers9467]

When the CEO is not an engineer………….

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

CEO isn't a technical position, it's a business position. You obviously don't understand how companies work.

[@iancormie9916]

Bean counters and investor reps should not be on corporate boards. Boards should only be interested in long term corporate health - not investor relations.

[@tomrogers9467]

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Doesn’t seem to be working very well for Boeing, does it!

[@billstrasburg384]

​@@bobbygetsbanned6049 This guy is another angry hippie socialist who thinks that businessmen just sit around in gentlemens' lounges smoking cigars all day. He sounds like Alexandria Occasional-Cortex.

[@felixx321]

@@iancormie9916 This 100%. Then you might argue why we've allowed institutional finance to chop up and extract so much wealth from these companies that provide so much for our everyday lives.

[@yukelalexandre8885]

For the first time in my life Imma start checking what planes I fly on, and this one along with all other Boeings less than 20 years old are de facto excluded

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

"Fewer," and these are new planes

[@donnamauer3215]

​@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Less than is fine. There was nothing to correct here. Grow up.

[@ACPilot]

😂

[@MrValjester]

The in flight spoilers will come up in flight in both the NG and the MAX if the yolk is turned sufficiently to do so. It is normal.

[@colewernette4601]

as an American, specifically from Detroit, I pride myself on my country’s manufacturing capabilities. American car manufacturers decided to make cheaper cars and foreign cars have come in and taken a large chunk of their marketshare. Would hate to see Boeing lose their grip on aircraft manufacturing but I’m afraid that is what we are witnessing

[@jonathonhazelton2060]

Air bus monopoly

[@ralfnorenberg3130]

greetings from germany

[@snotwurfit]

Correct. Airbus are going to become the world's leader

[@SaveAmerica492]

With all of the safety issues surrounding Boeing in the past decade, they lost their grip a long time ago. And certainly don’t deserve getting it back any time soon.

[@dakotarobert7975]

I saw this coming back in 1991 then it becomes a reality when McD/Douglas took over.

[@bricdoo7483]

I don't think they will ever recover from this kind of PR damage.

[@someoneoutoftheinternet1392]

I think id be possible, if they get their shit done correctly and then just fade in the backround for some time. I think Boeing in general public would start to sound great again by itself because of litteral decades of building great planes, that shoud at least in my opinnion still be in the minds of quite a few people long terme. But i do not want to say it doesent hurt Boeing and it will take jears witout any mayor problems.

[@ACPilot]

The airlines know more about the realities than an average person reading gossip news.. luckily..

[@zachprodz]

This is crazy because I’m going on United’s 737 Max 9 tomorrow😢

[@Jwellsuhhuh]

100 dead passengers on your hands to save 415 bucks? Now that's a deal.

[@lachmowe1642]

Poor Airbus, they need to build another A32N plant. Boeing is just selling too much Airbus Jets

[@aycc-nbh7289]

You’re aware that Airbus has its own issues as well, no?

[@lachmowe1642]

Yes Airbus has big problems no doubt but let's be serious, Boeing is just in a FAR worse state currently. Even the usual quite pro Boeing FAA does acknowledge that Boeing is in an horrible situation

[@aycc-nbh7289]

@@lachmowe1642Maybe because they are being subjected to a lower standard.

[@Hazardousyt3]

​@@aycc-nbh7289they are corrupt now,they care about money more than safety of people riding it

[@K26P]

My friends were recently heading back from a class trip when suddenly their plane rolled out of nowhere during cruise. As the plane nerd in the group, they were wondering what happened, but I had no clue, since nothing like that had happened before on any of the flights I’ve ever been on. Now I know.

[@ACPilot]

Can also be wake turbulence from another plane. Airbus’s made me spill my coffee a few times, suddenly our 737 just rolled, Airbus A319 in front. Tried this a few times..

[@tmneaves]

I studied flight safety in college. Today, it's all about Boeing, but we are rarely told about all other plane issues due to shoddy maintenance or design. Believe me, they happen, just not shown on the news in the united states.

[@ryandoe9278]

Spoilers are not to slow the plane down. When spoilers are up, they do create drag which does slow the plane, however, pilots use spoilers to lower a plane’s altitude without pointing the nose down and increasing speed. The spoilers, spoil the air flow over the wings which decrease lift.

[@kevinmueller5284]

Apparently kayak allows you to filter your search results by aircraft type.

[@kaypthree920]

Coby, chill out! You saw what they did to the whistle blower 😂

[@studuerson2548]

THIS is why I preferred cable links to flight control tabs for controls. And cables made the DC-9 a mean motor scooter. The most fun commercial aircraft I ever flew, for 4k of my 17k.

[@IceAge20017]

Boeing: Built a huge jet with the most advanced technology in the world capable of carrying thousands of tons. The public: I sleep. Boeing: Accidental install one wire incorrectly and only a $400 fix. The public: REEEEEEEEE!!

[@AL-pu7ux]

I’ve been saying after the door- check EVERY bolt and EVERY wire but these planes continue to fly. Keep rolling the dice. The shareholders approve.

[@JETZcorp]

The shareholders are getting bent over a barrel, lol. You think people are buying up Boeing stock? These decisions are BAD for making money.

[@mrhacker7844]

Safety is a priority here at Boeing.😂😂

[@Eruma_27]

Source: trust me bro

[@paulperry7091]

Yes, right after profits, the number one priority.

[@malghawazi]

Today, I just came back from an overseas business trip. My outbound journey started with a 787 (1.5 hour journey) and 350 (10 hour flight). The 350 was so quiet it felt gliding. The return flight was on 350 and 737max. Thank goodness I did not know about my last leg on a Boeing max, otherwise I would be thinking about the whole time, that I how much I trust Boeing.

[@RicardoSanchez-es5wl]

It’s terrifying waiting every day for the next disaster to happen, knowing one of us may be the victim.

[@JosephBoxmeyer]

Boeing should use this to their advantage. They should show a photo of Everest and remind us that we climb for the adventure, for the risk. Show a photo of a roller coaster going down, and remind us why we ride it. Remind us why we watch horror movies. "Ride Boeing. Any other plane is just a ride. But with Boeing, it isn't just your destination. No, ON BOEING the thrill is the GOING!

[@paulhough5941]

You’re living in a strange world and you’re talking utter bollocks.

[@Hazardousyt3]

Shut up kid

[@Hazardousyt3]

Boeing fan boy 🤓🤓🤓

[@JosephBoxmeyer]

​@@paulhough5941Sorry if this subtlety seems excessive, but this was my attempt at being factitious.

[@Celisar1]

You could have a great career in advertising! That one is really good!

[@Chris-px4hl]

It’s time to ground these planes until a full investigation is done and all complaints especially those from the individuals that worked at Boeing is resolved‼️If a worker that made these Aircraft’s feel unsafe to fly on them why would the general public 🤬

[@raggedflaggon9566]

The U.S has been on a trend toward sacrificing quality over quality since the 70s ish and then Reagan really just let everything fly off the handle and now private equity, which owns a lot of companies and cuts costs without ever being on the ground or in those communities, is ruining America. Without the regulations and competence we had in the Roosevelt era, companies do whatever they want.

[@TerrillFischer]

I haven’t flown in a plane in the last five years. I do not miss it.

[@KrystalLogan-ki2yb]

Riding on a MAX while it initiates a barrel roll... I'll pass

[@billolsen4360]

What, you don't like excitement and surprises?

[@derheeheehee6941]

The proper term is aileron roll.

[@KrystalLogan-ki2yb]

@@derheeheehee6941 True.but still nothing remotely worth experiencing on that family trip to Disneyland with kids in tow.... CRINGE

[@Peedarb]

Boeing has more recalls than my Kia

[@paulperry7091]

At least the Kia can't fall out of the road.

[@rollingbalegar7341]

​@@paulperry7091facepalm

[@DarshAnimates]

movement that expires.

[@HeartTurnedToStone]

Sad that Boeing ruined the 737. The 737-300 (w/efis) were EXCELLENT and considered the "Sports Car of Commercial Jets".

[@alcarasjosehiram3184]

L1011, exellent plane, my favorite by far, over Boeing and Air Bus

[@teddythefire]

Can’t wait for the press to pick this up

[@ZootoursUK]

They are gonna live this

[@govols1995]

and risk being su*cided in their hotel rooms?

[@johnhaller5851]

It's not a new problem, and airlines already had to look for problems in all their MAX airplanes last summer. This is just the approved airworthiness directive to permanently fix the problem.

[@billolsen4360]

@@johnhaller5851 All the drama in narration added by Airbus

[@1bluetoe]

​@billolsen4360 believe it or not Airbus and Boeing collaborate on safety. I doubt either company would run campaigns to badmouth the other.

[@camus170]

Guess that previous short of treating Boeing unfairly didn’t age well😬

[@zanzabar7878]

Hahahahaha thank you!

[@aycc-nbh7289]

I don’t see why, since the information there still holds true.

[@billolsen4360]

Don't be one of those people who is only influenced by the last person they heard from

[@animegamingdude]

nothing he said in that short was untruthful

[@JETZcorp]

This is why we need to think with more sophistication. It's not just a matter of "Boeing Bad" or "Boeing Good." They are at fault for a bunch of things, but not everything. You don't have to lie to make Beoing look bad.

[@richardkudrna7503]

In an FAA paper on wiring they covered an aircraft where a final acceptance metal plate was riveted on but the drill punch through wiring.

[@nuplanner5345]

Regulations work, and are necessary. When the FAA is in Boeing’s pocket, there are no regulations.

[@phongpit]

Remember those students forced to learn "The New Math" a while ago? You know, the math where it isn't important if you get the right answer as long as you understand the concept? Well, they have graduated and are now building airplanes at Boeing!!!

[@gotminnam]

Best comment ever😂

[@foxymetroid]

It's not the engineers so much as it's the suits rushing out new planes before their known problems can be fixed.

[@aimeewank7859]

I had no idea about that but i struggled in math all my life. I would get the right answer but my formulas were all goofy or something. So I kept failing cause my work was wrong but my answers were right, how tf does that make sense? Not til college that I was diagnosed with a learning disability in math only. Maybe I’m a “new genius” in reality! 😂😂😂 anyway, thanks for this, gonna look into it. ✌🏽🙃👍🏽

[@jjreider8668]

Someone doesn’t understand how math works…

[@foxymetroid]

It can be argued that understanding the concept is more important than simply answering some questions right.

[@wackyp]

I’m not flying on any airline that uses the max airplane family at this point.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

What if your flight gets cancelled and you’re forced to book with another airline?

[@alastairbattson5123]

I mean if they had a general quality control issue its unlikely be limited to one element of the plane. Which I assume is why the FAA is relentlessly working through everything.

[@flatbill2]

Something folks don't talk about, many of these planes sat in storage for years before being delivered.

[@UltimateSeduction]

Thank god in Europe I can easily choose for an airline flying Airbusses.

[@papatango2362]

You shouldn’t fly at all. You should also be concerned about your A321XLR having fuel tank issues.

[@AverageNoob69]

​@@papatango2362the A321XLR isn't even in service yet 😂

[@teddythefire]

@papatango2362 wait till it’s certified to worry about safety

[@Your_Local_Nerd]

i thought you said airbussy for a second 💀

[@Your_Local_Nerd]

@@papatango2362i mean as an american, we should probably worry about our problems with the 737 MAX before judging others i’m a huge boeing fan, but it’s clear that between the A320 family and the 737 family, the A320 might be a little superior when it comes to safety and public records

[@user-nf8uu3ii9t]

It's so wild...Boeing used to be the plane we trusted most!!

[@williampliss9879]

It’s like what happened to Mercedes Benz, originally the cars were built with a “cost is no concern” mentality and the finest engineering was employed, and then you go into the 2000s and they just took a dump

[@captaintaylorsnipes]

Funny thing is the pilots are happy to fly them.

[@ACPilot]

Yes, I am..

[@polyverse1]

American can never say anything about Chinese manufacturing when we have plan that are literally falling out of the sky.

[@Eruma_27]

Yeah that right is for us Europeans only now you’re right

[@steuererhoehung]

Nooo please be fair. As a fan of Airbus I would trust Boing a 1000 times over cheap chinese build crap

[@polyverse1]

@@steuererhoehung what Chinese built planes are failing like Boeing? I’ll wait and you can barely name any American made thing because America doesn’t make anything and the few things it does make is crap!

[@wadehiggins1114]

Cancel the program

[@SIX_GAMES001]

Yep I agree

[@PreCeptorBR]

they can't cancel the program since it's already flying💀

[@Your_Local_Nerd]

@@PreCeptorBRthey mean cancel production and the 737 MAX 7 and -10 aren’t in public service yet, so they can cancel that

[@marcbrady7241]

@@Your_Local_NerdGiven the amount of orders they have especially for the MAX 8, it won’t be cancelled.

[@5Down1Up]

Forget about the program. Cancel Boeing as a whole

[@sauronthegreat5799]

If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going.

[@airgunningyup]

car manufacturers issue recalls for every little problem , but airliner manufacturers try to hide major issues

[@williamjones7163]

If it's a Boeing, I'M NOT GOING!

[@aycc-nbh7289]

What if you have an equipment change or cancellation at the last minute, forcing you onto a Boeing plane?

[@davidstager173]

CEO cutting costs to line his pockets go figure

[@johnpurnell6898]

The problem with Boeing is that since 2003 the, Stonecipher,McNerney, and Calhoun are all products of GE and lean management brought to you by Jack Welch. Whereby the focus is on quarterly earnings and shareholder profit. GE once a great company now just a shell of its former self, and now Boeing.

[@michaelmcmanus5196]

Travelers should have the right to agree or disagree to flying on a Boeing plane. “Nope, I’ll fly two flights on an Airbus instead of the direct flight.” That’s what we should be hearing.

[@Tupolev_rEaL]

The 737 MAX 8, 9, 10 are the 3 types of aircraft that will definitely lead to Boeing's Downfall

[@emaro6095]

Don't forget about the dreamliner that liked to catch itself on fire due to the batteries...boeing is a disaster right now and it bums me out being a Renton native and seeing these beautiful machines on a daily basis. Corporate greed has ruined it for me.

[@Hazardousyt3]

Facts 🔥🔥

[@ACPilot]

Much safer than a Tupolev 😂

[@alexevansuk]

I think culture in general has a lot to do with it. People want everything yesterday. But yeah, they need to stop taking more orders and focus on their existing.

[@martinross5521]

Rushed manufacturing without adequate quality controls. Used to be the McDonnell Douglas syndrome.

[@the-Carpenter]

Once upon a time there was virtually only Boeing; now virtually every Boeing aircraft has a problem. As a huge fan of Boeing since my days in high school, it actually hits me personally to hear about their troubles.

[@jedblow]

I flew in a 737 Max and it was one of the most comfortable flights I have ever taken. Turbulence was not felt.

[@user-fq6os1ub2v]

Bro the southwest b737 you showed in the vid was a b737-800 not max

[@billolsen4360]

Click baiter don't care about accuracy, they're just greedy.

[@user-fq6os1ub2v]

@@billolsen4360 yes I agree

[@derheeheehee6941]

He's an idiot.

[@daves2624]

So there's NO spoiler issue?

[@vertigo2894]

I take it back, it's not the new DC10, it's in it's own class of problems.

[@user-sj6fe9or2g]

Hasn’t been one fatality on a max 9. What are you talking about

[@vertigo2894]

@@user-sj6fe9or2g You are trolling right? The 737 Max in general has been a problem. They just got lucky with altitude with the last door incident.

[@oidirk]

I wonder if there are any 737-100s still around? The engine and plane were built to work together.

[@d0g3br34d]

Boeing probably has those posters saying “Alert your supervisor if you see: OSHA agent FAA inspector” Or some crap 😭