Pilots IGNORED controller's instructions at Zurich Airport REAL ATC

[@LokiDWolf]

Hey, at least the pilot was humble enough to admit wrong. 👍🏾

[@Zinericks]

I think that pilot just had a confusion, everyone has a bad day, at least he admitted his mistake, it's something I have to respect.

[@csjames69]

Very calm and civilised. I wonder how the ATC at JFK would have handled the situation?

[@matt_b...]

"Oh! OH! Look at Mr. I can't hold at A2 over here. Just gonna roll thru, eh?"

[@umutozgebalkan2391]

Air france what the hell are you doing? I told you to hold short of alpha 2! You’re blocking MY taxiway! possible pilot deviation...

[@UberDude]

Possible pilot deviation, I have a number for you to copy when you’re ready.

[@1972challenger]

"Hey I'm really tired and ready to depart so just write a report or whatever and I'll stop here or whatever" - pilot

[@marthanewsome6375]

He apologized for the mistake and it did not endanger anyone.

[@davidjma7226]

Air France pilot forgets to use his callsign.......twice!

[@beccyvc5743]

I love listening to he ZRH Tower ATC :)

[@ninedaysjane2466]

I really like the visuals and animation. They make it so much easier to understand what's happening.

[@markmaki4460]

I wouldn't conclude that the pilots necessarily ignored an instruction; they might have just screwed up (forgot or missed the instruction or missed the marking). Ignoring is willful; screwing up is not.

[@consolemaster]

If we approach each other with these type of conversations, there would be less stress for everyone.

[@mickemike2148]

I love when it all works out in the end, like any good Hollywood movie!

[@hifijohn]

Amazing technology and the radio sounds like something from the 1920s

[@dgonL]

Pilot never read back the holding point. The controller should have insisted on it. No way the pilot gets in trouble for this.

[@milescooper1339]

Right....because failing to acknowledge and obey an instruction is clearly nothing to do with the pilot.....🙄

[@sharkey086]

@@milescooper1339 right, and he was like well if you want to file a report, go ahead. Like he didn't care.

[@jonathankleinow2073]

@@sharkey086 I got the sense from his tone of voice that he understood if the controller needed to file a report, not like he was being defiant and saying, "I don't care if you file a report, doesn't matter to me"

[@sharkey086]

@@jonathankleinow2073 possibly

[@12345fowler]

@@milescooper1339 If you are really into nit picking, both AF and Tower were at fault here.

[@wernervanschie]

“Hi sir” 😂

[@MrLeviaFUN]

Pilot's ego got rubbed the wrong way.

[@rc70ys]

It’s a worrying situation when a pilot says it’s been a long day and can’t follow basic instructions on the ground !!!! Heaven forbid you’re 40,000 feet in the air and in an emergency situation!! Would they have the ability to take charge and overcome their tiredness 😮

[@farid9282]

In emergency situations adrenaline kicks in and you have smaller checklists to follow so im sure the muscle memory would kick in just fine. I’d be more worried about the routine elements of the flight

[@MattyEngland]

Not like he entered the runway, he just held short at the wrong line. Everyone makes mistakes.

[@rabidpb]

It's not at 40000 feet you need to worry about emergencies, there's plenty of time to think the situation through. Now, at 400 feet, that's a different matter.

[@cornishcat11]

@@rabidpb GREAT COMMENT

[@12345fowler]

The issue that started it was not fatigue it was a incomprehension about CTOT. Fatigue just make comprehension a bit slower and he was focused on his CTOT issue and forgot to read back his ground clearance. Tower should also requested a readback if that wa sso important. If there wasn't any plane in front of him to RW28 I could see he wanted to come close to the real holding point, where he was. Tower dude went a bit snarky also (it's not all about CTOT)(It's not that clear) etc. This kind of sarcastics comments has no place in aviation if I was the AF dude I would have reacted the same.

[@xxMyGodIsaDJxx]

Not much to say there. Pilot was focused on his slot, not on his taxi. Apologized for that. The end

[@marcospark2803]

2:10 It's been a long day ..... and he didn't even take off lolllllllllllllllllll

[@TheLuxentertainment]

Why is he not using his callsign ? Isn't this super unprofessional and confusing for all the other planes and atc on frequency...

[@PeterNGloor]

Yes, I said Hi!

[@PeterNGloor]

It sounds like this guy in the French plane was not even French, but a Brit.

[@space1commander]

A better headset would had helped this pilot.

[@NuncNuncNuncNunc]

Oh Hi, Tower.

[@TheEviling]

Doesnt excactly sound as if he is fit to fly.

[@tinekejoldersma]

Usually, when the mic is operated it is the non-flying person.

[@skataskatata9236]

non flying, but ready to fly st any moment. sn unexpected takeover of the controls is worse than normal situation.

[@jonathankleinow2073]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard American pilots that concerned about calculated takeoff time vs. departure time. Why would he be that concerned about it?

[@jonathankleinow2073]

@@paddyohenry6428 Yes, I meant Americans as in pilots flying domestic flights in U.S. airspace. I get that CTOT is specific to Eurocontrol. Maybe he was worried about timing out if they departed late? He did say it had been a long day for him.

[@xxJohnxx77]

I think the reason they were concerned about their slot is because they arrived at the runway a bit too early - probably trying to depart at ~53 (5 minutes before their CTOT, which they incorrectly assumed to be at 58). Their actual CTOT being 03 means that they will now have to wait for ~5 minutes until their actual slot starts at 58.

[@zachansen8293]

"it's been a long day for everyone" - then maybe you shouldn't be flying. I would have grounded that plane.

[@aerodaan]

The clouds are moving the wrong way with the wind at 300/07

[@boatlover1875]

These Air France pilots sure seem to have a different culture.

[@12345fowler]

No way he sounded like a frenchy dude.

[@boatlover1875]

@@12345fowler Thought the same thing. Thinking more on the line of pilot culture.

[@Rasscasse]

This pilot was British

[@eptyr12]

Pilot was preoccupied by the ctot discrepancy and missed the hold short. Thankfully it was no big deal and he was on his way.

[@hrbllc4206]

He didn’t ignore it, he was distracted from the ATC providing unnecessary commentary. You spelled report wrong.

[@jfthome]

I could never be a pilot or ATC I can barely make out 1/4 of what's being said. I hope it's clearer for them than for me listening.

[@gravity69100]

french pilots operate like french drivers