STUCK in the mud! Ram 2500 NO 4WD (Diag & Repair)

[@944play]

Exhibit A for Right to Repair

[@phprofYT]

Amen. Agree and free access to the repair tools should come with the purchase of a vehicle.

[@Sonichu_is_watching]

It's not to punish you for repairing your own car. It's to keep hackers out of the bi-directional controls.

[@bigdaddymak1439]

@@Sonichu_is_watching that's funny nothing is keeping real hackers out! Just another money grab

[@bigdaddymak1439]

@@phprofYT definitely alone with wiring diagrams and service manual info

[@phprofYT]

@@Sonichu_is_watching Easy fix. Isolate the vehicle control system, ECM, BCM, etc. from the wireless communication technology. By the way, instead of 2 hours to hack the vehicle it might take the hackers a day or so.

[@glenncerny8403]

I miss the old days working at a gas station where you just check for a burned out bulb or a blown fuse. Bulbs were 25 cents and fuses were a dime with free installation.

[@samwiggins5349]

Yea Glenn, like the time a lady rolled in with '56 caddy and ask, "young man would you put fresh air in my tires", I steped closer to the owner who said," don't think about just do it", so I let the air out and put fresh air in, customer service.

[@DallasACdotcom]

Cars back then ran like crap, had drum brakes, often didn’t start. No nostalgia here.

[@glenncerny8403]

@@DallasACdotcom They were not loaded down with a bunch of useless junk either. You didn't need a computer to turn on the dome light or need a working radio before the car would start.

[@williamwhite9767]

$50 for now. Before you know it, it will be $200. Great video by the way!!

[@htownblue11]

Give Ivan a test light, a pack of quality probes, a volt meter, a scope, and a decent scanner and he could solve 1/2 the world’s problems with no additional parts needed. Ivan for world President 2024.

[@Ulrich_Wolf]

Funny you post this. Recently, I had a 2012 Cadillac Escalade in my shop, my client had JUST purchased it. Concerns were that the running boards did not work, and the rear air suspension compressor did not work. Did some scantooling around, found that I could not communicate with the running board module, and could not activate the suspension compressor from my tool. Went direct to the PDB, and found that someone had "repurposed" the fuses from the running boards, and the suspension compressor for the trailer brake controller that was installed and since removed, and also to power the interior of the trailer itself. Swapped the fuses back, got the module and the compressor back online, relearned the running board operation, and my client was super happy. I love stupid human tricks!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Awesome!

[@caseyhill3915]

For those of you who don't care to pay to work on your own vehicle, they make a SGM bypass cable that is pretty simple to install. I paid around $50 for mine and install took 10 minutes.

[@engeneer_ru5827]

Quite right! We connect BEYOND the BCM and no problem!

[@OdcinanoTV]

I bought SGW bypass adapter from Autel. It costs about 30$. With my 2019 Fiat it works perfectly. Greetings from Poland.

[@zupmeoff]

The dealer would have probably replaced the module along with the fuse 😂

[@HouseCallAutoRepair]

New module and another 20 amp fuse...

[@adamtrombino106]

And the TIPM, you know, just because....lol

[@2nickles647]

And told the owner the fuse box needs to be programmed

[@jdtractorman7445]

Someone who fixed the trailer light issue playing swaptronics. I think it's crazy you have to pay extra to gain access to bi-directional control features. I agree with paying for the software or future updates but it should just be a one time fee, not add on ones for bi-directional control.

[@Liferoad371]

So glad to see u work on a vehicle that was not 50 years old with 240,000 miles, Great job!

[@AP9311]

All that fancy stuff to access the modules!! 50 bucks?? Dang to just find the blown fuse lol. Someone was messing with the truck! Neat job to quickly find the problem! Awesome video

[@yamaha37776]

Dang, already got them 19’s rollin in the shop.

[@jamesu]

My bidirectional controls are now behind a paywall separate from the software and hardware I have already purchased

[@gregjones8501]

That took is sick!!! Think that’s next on my wishlist!

[@volvo09]

Yeah, lookin good, especially being compatible with the security module. I was thinking that would dead end tool diag.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Yeah Greg, I was really impressed! It's super slick!

[@jumpinjojo]

*tool

[@for2utube]

It is pretty cool. So much has changed since I first heard of busses in cars, in ‘91.

[@sulemanhabib1743]

Hummmm! Very interested work PHD thank you ,I love your videos. Habib Auto all day way from Ghana West Africa

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks Habib!

[@gillgetter3004]

Another NPR fix!! I’ve found stuff like that, people moving fuses around!

[@TheCrazy243]

Similar happened to me. Well not swap fuses. I had a neighbor who asked me to look at his 2013 Dodge Charger. His complaint was radio or navigation screen doesn’t work. Death of the black screen. No communication. I asked him for history. His brother was the one touch that fuse block 🤦🏻‍♀️. Apparently fuse wasn’t pushed all the way in. I pushed that fuse in. Booms. It came back online. Hmm I don’t know. Why would people messing with fuse block?. He said it haven’t been working for two months. I guess screen was fine before someone touch it. I wish I know that story. Great video as always. I want that scan tool now!!!

[@timstevens5178]

Love this channel, I think ill be calling you soon from just down the road in WM.

[@Dirtyharry70585]

Since module layout in that software, would be nice to have the connection labels too, or a quick pointer link.

[@petar443]

Nice truck. Happy owner can work safely now

[@elchefe7701]

a money gateway! what a brilliant invention...

[@jerrymoore7669]

So why does the transfer case have a lever An the transmission have a knob?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Great question haha

[@TreyCook21]

I guess it makes the user feel a positive connection to 4wd for manliness? Not sure about the switch for the transmission. I like the lever on the column.

[@Garth2011]

Young engineers with zero experience yet? I can name tons of things they make up on the newer vehicles that simply say "Won't last very long".

[@ryans413]

That’s manufacturers for you

[@raywagner8016]

So you can say "WTF!!!" when you pull it and nothing happens.

[@duaneb193]

Once again Ivan reminds us all to start with the known two basics - powers and grounds, and once again it saves a lot of what could have been expensive swaptronics by seeing that there was no power. We need some PHA t-shirts that say Powers and Grounds on them!!

[@tengelgeer]

Online paid subscription to repair your car... Damn, they found a new way to make money!

[@Monza62000]

should be illegal

[@peto22]

It only stops honest people. Hackers always find ways sooner or later.

[@airratchetjockey7605]

@@Monza62000 lawsuits are already in progress

[@OzFrog48Z]

You can blame the federal government for this. A few years ago there was a well published episode where some college students hacked into the software of a jeep and were driving it remotely from another location. When the feds heard of this they forced Chrysler to lock down their system to prevent this from happening. This is the result.

[@tengelgeer]

@@OzFrog48Z Nonsense. Remote access has nothing to do with scanning the CAN bus.

[@Sandmansa]

Most Launch scanners are SGW compliant too.

[@roxanneabbott8424]

I love my dodge ram, nice to see one repaired, to hot for me to fix my headlight yet. Great job Ivan!!!

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

Customer induced malfunction! Did you find out if the trailer lights had an issue? I bet the trailer had a short causing the trucks trailer fuse to blow.

[@mariosaccoccio1688]

Is that a bag of "Utz" chips on the floor?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Sharp eye haha

[@ontheroad1930]

Never had same problem on my f250 zf5 - Simple and Reliable!

[@jorgemat8080]

Great video and that 50 bucks a year doesn't compare to taking dash and radio out to bypass with the 12+8 cable saves a lot of time well worth it. I can program keys and bidirectional with that 50 bucks a year and do it in 10 minutes instead of 2 hours removing and bypassing and reinstall parts.

[@kainhall]

remember when you had a lever you would pull?? and it just worked?? . i was late to work because a 2012 silverado REFUSED to shift..... because it was too cold outside the trans fluid in the T-case was too cold....too thick.... and the shift motor didnt have enough power . now.... it was -55f (north east montana is cold) but still.... my old 97 jeep and 77 silverado would have shifted right in! . might have taken an extra hard yank or 2..... but it would have went into 4WD

[@mikeguiggey2586]

I'm guessing you really like that think tool..

[@joshg1244]

Typical user says ”I didn’t touch that” and yet they did

[@kenputt1750]

Give me locking hubs and a gear drive transfer case , that's a sure thing .Look where all this other bullshit has taken us.

[@gtemnykh]

Amen

[@MrBeard-ig5zc]

Cleaner shoes

[@jonclark1288]

Chrysler engineers: our transmissions are electronically controlled, so we installed a sleek, compact knob to shift gears. There's no point in having a big, bulky shifter when there's no mechanical linkage anyway. Also Chrysler engineers: our transfer cases are electronically controlled too, so we installed a big, bulky shifter for the transfer case that has no mechanical linkage.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

XD

[@gtemnykh]

It DOES have a mechanical linkage

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@gtemnykh haha that's what I thought toi

[@weshawkins7165]

Good video Ivan. What was wrong with the old school manual locking hubs and a manual transfer case lever. Was the $50 access fee per vehicle model or per manufacture?

[@ablackformula]

How can you have a manual shifter for the transfer case, yet still rely on a control module to get 4x4 working? Also, since you didn't use any bi-directional controls, couldn't you have saved the $50 subscription?

[@bradnoyes7955]

Relay probably actuates a front axle disconnect. My 97 F150 had a T-Case lever but then a switch actuated a vacuum solenoid the locked the right front drive axle to the differential (with it unlocked, both front wheels will spin independently of each other)

[@TreyCook21]

He also couldn't clear DTCs without the $50 charge.

[@ablackformula]

@@TreyCook21 Thanks for clearing that up.. that's some bs right there though!

[@waiting4aliens]

Holy duck. Do owners also have to pay the $50.00 toll? each year?

[@riblets1968]

I miss the New Process 205 transfer cases they used to put in Dodges.

[@likearockcm]

After a couple of years I'm beginning to understand w.t.f. Ivan is talking about🤣

[@NoWr2Run]

I think the owner was at fault by switching fuses, just saying.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Or someone at the construction site haha

[@billsmith2212]

I can't even imagine what they do to rental equipment in a job site .

[@lightdepdoctor179]

PBS&SW Problem between seat & steering wheel

[@mikeaho4143]

Thanks for the vid Ivan. That Thinktool is pretty neat. Almost NPR !

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Technically it was completely NPR since the truck had it's own spare fuse xD

[@JamesJohnson-kw9gh]

Ivan what type of diagnosis system do you prefer to use and how much do they charge .and do you have to have a business to use program.

[@alberteller7286]

That was a great video. You the man .

[@clmejean1]

On my 2016 Ram 3500 would I have the security module on mine that would require the work around to see the transfer case data? Thanks

[@arthurfricchione8119]

Ivan thanks for the info. The ThinkPro Tool you say it works great on Chrysler’s how does it perform on earlier model cars? Namely Honda’s as that’s what I own. Is it comparable to the launch Diaggun4 mini. Looking for a bigger screen and I like the topology diagrams that show how systems are interconnected. Any recommendations? Thanks for sharing and you and wife stay safe and well Artie 😊

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Yeah it's good on most cars 1996 and up. For domestics older than 2010 I still prefer the Snap-On.

[@billrimmer5596]

Do u have to pay per car? How long does it last?

[@luukvideo]

Disgusting that you need to pay just to talk with the modules

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Or clear codes. Yup welcome to the new age!

[@luukvideo]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I wonder if sniffing the CAN packets would give you the unlock command / keys you would need for other cars

[@TreyCook21]

@@luukvideo Easy now... the dang gubmint is watchin'

[@diamondstateautodiagnostic5250]

So what was the tip that Cody's auto diagnostic gave you

[@mikechiodetti4482]

Gateway modules and pay-2-play. Chrysler isn't the only one.

[@solargarage]

Thanks for the video and the tip about AutoAuth.

[@shawnbauman5463]

Wait so they put a 30A fuse in for the trailer lights instead of a 20A? Wow, the stupidest thing ever right there. How does anyone think thats fine? I've seen that before and they always blame the truck. We have a complete"trailer" light test rig built. When it works on that but blows on the customers trailer.....ummm.....its your trailer bud.

[@charliemagoo7943]

And it's a chafed wire that's loose on the trailer as well. Only will happen intermittent ly. Morons blame the truck when it's the trailer

[@Juiced105]

Is the ThinkDiag compatible tool with AutoAuth?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Did you not watch the video?

[@Juiced105]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yes I did. I see it's compatible with the ThinkTool unless I missed something. Is it tool manufacturer specific or model specific?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@Juiced105 You can go to the website and see which tools are approved :)

[@Juiced105]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics It took me awhile but I did indeed find it. Thank you.

[@mikefoehr235]

Off roaders may find electronic tcase frustrating

[@mike_svt93]

Swap-tronics strikes. Live and learn for the owner.

[@dwoodog]

This is what scares me know about used vehicles. I don't have a Ivan near by, so I'm at the mercy of who the hek knows.

[@davide.s.9880]

Are a lot of them codes because of the four wheel drive being down?

[@ryans413]

They are all transmission related yes if one thing goes down usually effects everything else dosnt mean everything else is broken just means the computer can’t see what happing and thinks there is more issues setting more codes

[@_RiseAgainst]

Ivan, I watched a Danks Dispensary commercial for you. Will you split the .004¢ profit? I need weed money now

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Like #426 Thanks for the video! Life is a learning curve! Hindsight is 20-15!

[@jaimegirl59]

Fees to scan vehicle another reason not to buy any vehicles newer than 1995

[@baxrok2.]

Nice fix Ivan. Thanks!

[@Garth2011]

What an illusion for a 4x4 transfer case lever. It looks like its a linkage shift but really is an electronic type and those seem to have more problems than they are worth, a signal to operate a motor that engages the mechanical forks inside the transfer case. Nice when they work but those aren't all that reliable or robust in the long run.

[@gtemnykh]

No I think the lever to work the transfer case itself is still very real on these HDs. But you still have an electronic axle disconnect. Been this way for decades.

[@Garth2011]

@@gtemnykh Dodge and I think Ford really screwed the customers when they moved away from true "free wheeling hubs". I think they keep the transfer case front driveshaft and axles turning all of the time then control engagement at the hubs vs. the past system of hubs and the transfer case. Not only that, they went to a "Unitized wheel bearing" which couldn't deal with real world forces like the inner and outer bearing design does. Not sure if they still use that on late models still but just another idiot in engineering with no experience doing their job at Dodge and Ford.

[@tomctutor]

Basically in modern cars, do not touch electrics under hood unless your first name is Ivan. You will probably need an approved scanner, dealer prescription, a PHd (that's the qual not Pine Hollow Diags)in electrical engineering, and a digital scope. You have been warned.

[@tomsawyer4776]

Please unplug the door open chime when troubleshooting....it makes the videos almost unwatchable. I mute the sound and read the close caption just to get past that part.

[@hutchcraftcp]

It will be interesting to see how much of PSA Group tech will spill over into Chrysler now that merger has happened.

[@CALVINLNIKONT]

Who has to eat the $50? Ivan has a paid subscription for one year and so I think Ivan should. I don't have all of that fancy equipment and so I just check the fuses first!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Customer was more than happy to pay for it :)

[@woppini]

customer will. All part of diagnostic time and expense.

[@sandybarnes887]

$50 a year just to look at the modules and read them? My god.

[@phprofYT]

You can read DTC and data stream. You don't have access to bi-direction controls which is almost a necessity this day and age. I am also suspicious you need a newer tool but would have to ask.

[@notsureigaf]

There are a few methods to bypass the dopey SGM but they involve wiring hacks that I don't think Ivan's interested in doing on a customer's car. The whole thing is Chrysler's extreme over-reaction to some dudes hacking an LTE-equipped Jeep.

[@robhughes8516]

You can read data stream and DTC, just bi-direction controls are compromised… complete bs if you ask me…. no biggie though, bi-directional control is nice and can save time and simplify a diagnosis but not necessary almost 100% of the time…. They’d never get a dime from me.

[@Cheepchipsable]

Per device it's not to bad if it's multiple vehicles, assuming you are a shop. This is just sliding into making it difficult for non authorised repairers to do anything.

[@walterk1221]

@@Cheepchipsable the $50 allows "registration" of up to 6 scan tools per account. Share the account with your friends and family to reduce individual cost. Besides, I will wager those complaining most loudly think nothing of giving a cable company a couple hundred a month or a cellphone company at least $50 a month.

[@engeneer_ru5827]

Привет Иван! А почему ты не захотел подключиться позади BCM ? Все модули станут доступны для полной диагностики и платить никому не нужно... Не верю, что это тебе не известно...

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Easier to pay 50 dollars haha

[@engeneer_ru5827]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Понятно. Но мне, почему то не смешно... Надо переселяться в PA... осталось еще место для меня?

[@snarlbug]

The Security Control Module might as well be called the Profit Control Module

[@raywagner8016]

Another unique quirk for these 2018+ trucks is that they will not go into 4WD if you have an ABS malfunction of any sort. Real handy when you're climbing a hill towing a trailer in the wet, have an ABS light come on as the wet turns to snow and you have nowhere to pull over. Probably the most ignorant vehicle programming item I've ever occurred in my (unwilfully endangered) life.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Wow that's a major pain in the ass. Nissan is the same way.

[@ryans413]

Owner was definitely playing around with the fuses like come on so obvious

[@neilmurphy845]

Why do they have those security gateway modules when they don't do anything because people still steal the car's

[@kevinbarry71]

In the immortal words of meatloaf; two out of four ain't bad

[@jumpinjojo]

It's "two out of three ain't bad." Come on, Sleepy Joe.

[@kevinbarry71]

@@jumpinjojo it's called a joke. Sorry I didn't explain it for you

[@jumpinjojo]

@@kevinbarry71 Bad joke, Kevin. Stick to your day job.

[@richardcranium5839]

i can see that gateway being hacked real soon and of course the hackers making a mint off the hack. probably why its only 50 bucks

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

Ivan, please take this as a request, NOT a criticism. As much as I appreciate you and all I learn from you, the door dingers are driving me bonkers, man! This time especially I’m even having a difficult time hearing you do to the loudness of that dinger! I’ve seen at least one other KZbin’er rig up some kind of simple gadget that he uses to push in the door button to silence that annoying and extremely distracting sound. I’m pleading with you, dude, come up with a way to shut that infernal noise off so we can follow you and focus on what your teaching, ok? Thanks for reading and keep up the great work! 👍🙏🔧🧰🚗

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

Due and you’re. I know how to spell - I was just distracted by that durn door dinger! 😂

[@craigsmyth9076]

Now go back. Remove fuse and see what it takes to diag without paying Chrysler.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Would be interesting what the dealer would charge for this lol

[@fire7765]

Great job

[@zx8401ztv]

Well done ivan :-D I could see an imaginary deer stalker hat on you, you got your man.. errr fuse :-D

[@jumpinjojo]

Ivan has forgotten more information than I'll ever know.

[@Val-mm5gd]

Nothing makes sense with fca vehicles

[@johnwaby4321]

Very smart 👍👍

[@MWestern-m4g]

2500 and no cummins?? WTH was he thinking? But at least he doesn't have a CP4 pump to fail.

[@DM-hw4cr]

Not everyone wants a stinky noisy diesel

[@MWestern-m4g]

@@DM-hw4cr Good

[@5Dale65]

7:20 thersh yo prahblem lady!!! xD

[@steveo6631]

seems like my life is about fees, taxes, licenses... Having to pay a fee to look at your own vehicle??? What's next... Who's getting this $50 a year fee?... The manufacturers?...

[@adotintheshark4848]

I certainly hope someone comes up with a way to bypass the SGW bullsh*t before these vehicles get too old and they can't be "authorized". What unmitigated crap will manufacturers think of next?

[@joshkent4888]

Surely a 2019 car is still in warranty in 2021.

[@Cheepchipsable]

Probably, but the dealer was booked up for 3 weeks. 0:30

[@larryg3279]

I will remember that the next time I start swooping fusses in a vehicle

[@Garth2011]

Better not to swap...best to have spare collection of fuses.

[@Cheepchipsable]

Just make sure they match, *know* what system you are unplugging, and understand if it keeps blowing you have a short to ground somewhere which could easily result in more expensive damage if you use a higher rated fuse. Get it sorted.

[@larryehrlich57]

I carry an assortment of fuses in both of my vehicles. Knock on wood, I have never needed them! There is an old adage that say "It is better to have it and not need it, than it is to need it and not have it". Thanks to my grandfather who taught me that. He immigrated to America in the late, late 1800's. He immigrated legally with his parents to the USA!

[@Joe_Mission]

This one ended up being so easy you probably could have saved the $50 for bi-directional control capability... for now.

[@michaeltrinidad1217]

2019? They always say Dodge Chrysler is junk but this is ridiculous.

[@robhughes8516]

Just another reason I’d never own a dodge/Chrysler …. Like I really needed another reason.

[@mylt1z28]

How exactly does someone screwing around in the fuse box not knowing what they are doing make any car or tuck junk?

[@michaeltrinidad1217]

@@mylt1z28 easy it's called information there's plenty of data to show the type of quality Dodge and Chrysler are spewing

[@melockavich9596]

I ck fuses first saves time

[@joehomanick]

Same here. I’ve seen people go looking around for long time only to find out there was a bad fuse . However you still have to figure out why the fuse popped, so now they are in for another hour trying to figure out why it popped in the first place

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I was waiting for this comment! Doesn't save time on modern cars with 5 fuse boxes and hundreds of fuses lol. You still need a scanner and wiring diagrams :)

[@mattt4183]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Definitely need the scan tool and wiring diagrams first. When that leads to module powers and grounds it's often easier to check the relevant fuses first rather than accessing the module.

[@TreyCook21]

Yeah, in my '93 Corolla, I check all 12 fuses first! lol

[@randy1ization]

customer now online ordering a shipload of spares fuses.. lol

[@Micko350]

Cheap fuse that one - $50 plus your Charges & he supplied the Fuse! 😂

[@andrewthompsonuk1]

It is terrible to see security on diagnostics in cars. It's so anticompetitive for a manufacturer to be able to control who can fix their vehicles. Anything that inhibits reparabiliry is upping the environment impact of the vehicle by making the vehicle into a throwaway item. Personally have always refused to buy any vehicle that I cannot scan myself or get repair information for. Hopefully the hackers will find a way in...

[@PhillyDee215]

Good thing he didn't affect nothing else😏but u have to pay for bidirectional controls🙄come on Chrysler/Dodge....my Snap On Solus Edge would be helpless😬

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

You can register your Snap-On and it will work as long as you have the current updates.

[@PhillyDee215]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics its updated👍i thought u meant there were other bidirectional controls that Chrysler offered for that truck that needed subscription in order to work😏

[@aleskyfinis1025]

Nice yeah baby

[@theuniquechannel8483]

40k truck btw

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I thought it was 60k at least...

[@donnierobertson3088]

Ok