Staten Island Maxima Kicks Ivan's Butt... (SI Ep. 11.1)

[@frugalprepper]

When Ivan drops and F bomb on camera you know he is having a bad day!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

By the end I was really fed up with this car!

[@Zib187]

Shit was about to get real.

[@brianraglandsr.2349]

LMBO, it sure funny the way you through that word out. But another job well done. I know all to well how cheap diag equipment is {lol} but man you need the Fuse Saver master kit. I love it P.N# 8016

[@AutoBikeTruck]

i can see why great video Ivan

[@zoidberg444]

That's why Ivan's a pro and i'm not. By that point i'd be serious tempted to pull the car out in the road and pour petrol on it and light that fucker up!

[@2aminitials]

ScannerDanner is watching this video while screaming "HEAT AND VIBRATION, HEAT AND VIBRATION!" at his computer screen. :-)

[@jakeandrus690]

Time for a set of resetting circuit breakers :)

[@joemilton7552]

Your explanation for the moose height search is just like the explanation I give my wife when she finds questionable searches on my computer. "Sweetheart, I've told you a thousand times, this thing does weird stuff on its own when I don't turn it off!"

[@davidplatenkamp]

The process cannot be rushed. Working with time pressure, an audience, or even "help" can make even the most rational diagnostician forget or neglect avenues of investigation. Real work, and learning, truly is solitary in nature.

[@joelaplnski5394]

What he said in the end is true, the car told on itself, sometimes we turn a deaf ear to it. Thanks for showing your mistakes we all learn a great deal from them to. I had a problem with an Iat sensor on a 2002 Sonoma, did the chinese fire drill on it, turns out to be the female side of the connector had to much slop in it. The classic wire wiggle (eric o) showed a voltage drop, tighten them up no more money light. So I learned a lots from all the key players on the you tube channels, thanks

[@theoldwizard998]

“Wisdom comes from experience. Experience is often a result of lack of wisdom.” - Terry Pratchet Also get a circuit breaker instead if wasting all of the fuses !

[@hifienthusiast8768]

I think the other guy is rushing you, and you would have never cut that Rd/wt wire at the fuse box, instead pulling it at the eng sol like you were going to, which would not have fixed the high current and made you look elsewhere. I can't stand people rushing me on a car, it's usually those who don't understand what's involved. I know they're trying to help, but usually only make matters worse.

[@hightttech]

Furthermore, we learned from Riggs in Lethal Weapon to NOT cut the RED wire.

[@Walczyk]

cheapskates

[@wyattoneable]

I sure do appreciate that you kept this honest and showed us the misdirection. In the end, it really aids in the understanding. Thanks again for bringing us along.

[@4WDIESEL1]

steady there . wow i think it's the first time i have heard Ivan use the "F" word. Good job as always.

[@jannepo]

Bravo! Another great educational video. We all learn from mistakes, either our own or somebody else's. There is no way you can learn this just watching the "spot on successful videos". Putting out the video which was not a "home run" requires courage, but I'm very happy that Ivan has what it takes to do it. Keep up the great work Ivan!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

This comment is very much appreciated! That is exactly why this field is so exciting...never know in the beginning if the diag will be an instant "home run" or a long battle to the end :)

[@arciefan]

Not learning from mistakes is a butt kicking. You kicked butt here!

[@maxiramone]

Ivan thanks for being the real deal, It is what It Is Real life diagnostics! Greets from Uruguay

[@herbiesgarage681]

I learned on the Tv show Jeopardy that the name Ivan is the Russian equivalent to GI Joe. 😀 Now we know why you have the never give up attitude. I always enjoy your videos Ivan, way over my head most times but challenges is what makes us grow.

[@keithwelton]

Hindsight, the best diagnostic tool ever. The trick is to use foresight to reduce your chance of having to rely upon hindsight. It is the simple things that can be so easily overlooked.

[@michaelblacktree]

Some days you're the hammer; some days you're the nail. It happens to all of us. But you didn't just throw up your hands and pass the car off to another tech. You stuck with it, and solved the problem.

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

Intermittents are way underestimated. Hey a fix is a fix, yes sometimes things take longer than usual, but you got it done man kudos. I personally like to keep an led test light on the load side of that fuse just to see if it grounded. And would've been tempted to break out the ect3000 on it. Well done man

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks for the morale booster :) What is the ECT 3000 and how would it work in this situation?

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics it's a short finder, saved me hours. Sold by power probe. Albeit intermittents are much more difficult to track, and there's a little bit of a learning curve, but still it might have helped you at the point where the fuse was blowing at koeo. Works for me.

[@allenk5649]

Even when you mess up, you do very well. That was a tough one, buddy. Don't kid your self.

[@pigeonsil240sx]

videos that show mistakes are great fr learning.plus we get less frusterated at ourselves when we see pros get there butts kicked

[@deantubeful]

I gotta say now with hind sight I didn't like the ticking sound ! Sucker Punched ! I know how that feels. Good recovery and display of humility. Well done Ivan and thanks for sharing the adventure :)

[@Reaper1947]

"the belt sounds like it's ready to jump off , but they are not worried about it" LOL ! TheReaper!

[@cp6027]

Exactly, if they would have checked out the belt they may have found the chaffed harness and Ivan would not have been called out.

[@tankabbot22]

Ivan, I've watched all your videos and that's the first F-bomb I heard from you! With two 5 year old boys I drop an F- bomb every hour or so! Lol! Keep up the great work. Learning so much from you.

[@jix177]

The joys of an imperfect world! Well done.

[@QueenCityHistory]

Ivan you said fuck!! Haha. I admire your ability to have waited that long to say it. I would've said it within about 5 min!

[@charlesmiller5078]

I learn alot more when the car punches back. Oh, the preacher job, forget it :) Nissan wins 11 rounds, Ivan wins with a 12th round knockout (Desperate) late round round house. And the crowd goes crazy, carries Ivan to the next car.

[@govhickenlooper]

We are sorry to see your troubles Ivan. Please consider our free gift of a universal PCV valve. It fits any vehicle. (With purchase a Jeep Grand Cherokee door handle repair kit)

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Did Eric O send you guys over here?

[@govhickenlooper]

We are sending him a refund of $0.49, the value of the door handle repair kit, so he should be satisfied.

[@Tedybear315]

Send him a re-manufactured set of functional heads for that Honda that zinged him yesterday...I'm sure that will make this all better :-)

[@denrayr]

LOL

[@InsideOfMyOwnMind]

I don't think I would show up there without a bullet proof vest at this point. Not to even mention the guy who did the sketchy valve job. Lord help him. Eric was fuckin PISSED.

[@michaelm7874]

Night job sticking with it! Never get down about something that took longer than it should have because end of the day it was a very good lesson. People pay good money to learn

[@tinkerwest]

Judging from Eric O's evap code leading to eventual faulty p/s pressure sensor, I would say this car has a faulty tire pressure sensor.. ;)~

[@markwatson9816]

tinkerwest Maybe they got some of Eric O's bad air in the tires and that's what is causing the TPS to go bad ;-)

[@mid-thumbautomotive9716]

Nice diagnosis!

[@jamesmiller3297]

Altima V6 and Maximas have same issue. Just a routing problem. Seen plenty of them at the dealer I work at. Evan other shops have sent them here for this problem. Excellent track down without the advantage of seeing it before. I do not usually talk to the video , but I was today.

[@robertdavis6708]

Ivan doesn't have a F bomb in him. He's as cool as a November cucumber. Good find Ivan, even though it mopped you around the floor. Been there..... done that occasionally.

[@dassme1]

Good one Ivan. Great video

[@trime-time]

when that problem presented at a 3rd sensor I knew there had to be an intermittent short caused by acceleration.

[@squareyes1981]

"Didn't mean to make you cry... if I'm not back again this time tomorrow, carry onnnn, carry onnnnnn"

[@benmorris5046]

*hums to self* this town, is a break you town... A break you down, and tear you down town...

[@Garth2011]

Well, there you go. Customer doesn't mind the fact the belt system has a problem yet that belt is causing other problems. Interesting that it took faster RPM to originally create the issue and then came down to simply turning on the key. As usual, electrical issue due to manufacturing defects/designs. Seems this one was a wire harness routing issue into dangerous areas without proper protection.

[@serafinsilva1055]

30a fuse should solve it.

[@harveyadams5453]

My man you keep getting beat up... At least you're honest about getting beat up

[@danielclark5170]

Must be a pulley out of line or belt tensioner allowing too much movement of the belt. Some problems like that can take a while to find.

[@melvinjohnson7033]

In the end Ivan was victorious and can add another customer to his list.

[@thomasbedenek5933]

Why aren't you using a fuse saver or fuse buddy? Does it affect the amp clamp reading?

[@garyjohnson801]

Advance advance Level Auto Diagnostics did one just like this that the bad belt caused it . The shredded belt messed up the wiring to the sensor by the bottom pully

[@themechanic6117]

That's crazy, just like customer's that want to replace a water pump because of over heating ,but don't want to replacing the gaskets were there is obvious coolant leaks. I tell them to fix the coolant leaks first because it's the obvious problem. Great work Ivan.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I know right? I almost felt bad running that car with a jumpy belt...

[@themechanic6117]

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics nonsense, you did a great job. Car got fixed 👍

[@iman-pv2sc]

Nice fix...

[@shaunsautorepairs5410]

Good stuff ivan... Im gonna have to get a scope....

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Highly recommended :)

[@DIETRYING001]

Loved it great video! Was that dude getting on your nerves? For me I have people looking over my shoulder, I like to think without being pulled off track!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

LOL it's always a loud environment working in the city shops...just have to deal with it and focus :)

[@jacquesdaoud4263]

i know ivan work very hard because he said fuck lets all welcome ivan to the club

[@InsideOfMyOwnMind]

You still made it look easy. The video was 25 min. What was real time?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Real time was well over 2 hours...

[@petrocksgarage]

Wow, that would have annoyed the hell out of me. At least it was easy to reproduce in the garage. Time to invest in or make a variable amp circuit breaker.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

LoadPro wouldn't work here?

[@petrocksgarage]

It might have helped find the section of wire with high resistance from the damaged wire. :-) Every tool has it's uses and there is more then one way to skin a cat.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Ah in this case there were no resistance issues, just copper rubbing on steel lol

[@petrocksgarage]

Ah, that's right, it was shorting to ground. Thats even easier to find with the LoadPro. When/if you pressed the magic button, while the leads were plugged into the connector, you would likely have gotten a reading of zero on your volt meter indicating a short to ground. btw, in my experience there would be a little voltage drop if even a couple tiny strands of wire inside an 16 or 18 gauge wire were broken. Typically a drop of anything above 0.5v is considered excessive.

[@petrocksgarage]

Actually, come to think of it, if my memory of the circuit you were playing with is correct (I didn't analyze it too closely when I watched the video) you might have been able to detect the short to ground at the fuse box via the fuse or relay port. When you pressed the magic button the current going through the tool and into the circuit would take the path of least resistance which is typically through the short to ground spot. As a result you would likely get a reading of zero at the fuse box telling you it was a short. Then walk the circuit via linear or binary search to find the spot of the short.

[@yomomma9070]

This must be a common problem, Ivan. Eric on Advanced Level Auto had identical problem. Belt had chewed into same harness.

[@higherregion]

lol, I watched that video yesterday from advanced level auto.

[@chungaleta1234]

Didn't look like a kick in the butt to me. You solved the problem quite quickly.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

That's because the other 2 hours were off-camera xD

[@chungaleta1234]

Don't feel bad, I'd still be replacing plugs, wires and fuel pump. LOL

[@throttlebottle5906]

lol @ 5:12 "Moose Height" least it wasn't weenie size/pills/devices/toys :))) maybe cortana listening and searching via voice commands

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

my wife laughed so hard when "moose height" showed up on the screen xD

[@phillipzan2005]

So are you saying don't use bbb industry diagrams?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

No, BBB is a fantastic resource! Just in this case all the "engine" schematics were not in one place, and I got just a little bit lazy lol

[@mousegouse]

I always wondered why Eric O always started his diagnostics by saying "......first we do a visual inspection"..... I think this one proves his methods. Not saying Ivan didn't do one, maybe he just edited that part out?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Even after we found the issue, I STILL couldn't really see the damaged harness...it was buried!!! If the vehicle was on a lift, possibly it would have been easier to see from underneath?

[@wendellperkins7605]

You have assumed the wiring between the fuse and the motor mount is ok. oops wrong wire.

[@lewisabbott39]

The joys of diagnosis

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

haha I wasn't even that excited to finally find the fault...oh well that's how it goes sometimes...

[@ericcorse]

That is a problem you won't forget.

[@baxrok2.]

Well, you ought to at least be happy that this was so easily reproduced otherwise imagine that nightmare! Great lesson and thanks for sharing it!

[@stephenlawrence4362]

Great job, even though it took time. Knew you were a little pissed with the F bomb, but it makes you human.

[@ggstephens50]

Hey that’s what you get when you go to the big city! Sounds like Keith set you up for that one.... is there some rule that the fuse with the biggest list of components/ circuits is always the one that blows the fuse or has the parasitic draw? It’s never the one marked “dome light only dome light” that’s the problem. Ok now for the important part Biling out the job, because you know if you take your time, a couple grand of test equipment, and of course your skill set in problem solving we have a pretty sizable bill. Of course the customers reaction is “ oh it was just a wire thats not much, right?” Comments anyone.......

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

The billing is always a compromise. You can't bill a customer for 3 hours of diag just because you looked at the wrong wiring diagram :)

[@mrkttrdr2919]

Did I hear diagnostic dog trying to tell u what’s up?

[@klwthe3rd]

What harness was causing a short to ground? It obviously was on circuit 53 and like u said was caused by that neglected belt.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

The power feed to the Intake VVT solenoid on the rear bank. Yes, the buried one that no one could see lol

[@diymisfit_Mechanic_UDX404]

Somebody put bad air in it!

[@MitzvosGolem1]

Hot soak coils then check

[@trainer2018]

You didn't take that long to find the issue, besides that is the name of the game sometimes. Nobody is perfect including me.

[@doctorjohn-burgtekie]

Just keep throwing fuses at the problem it will get fixed thru process of elimination, terrible troubleshooting call Eric O next time.

[@SamSneed001]

You can't win them all...

[@xXJoeChevyXx]

Remember when I told you about your trans .some times that's what happens when we get too technical .we tend to over look our basics like my dad always said live and learn

[@tabletilter8gaming166]

LOL the f bomb came out

[@psdaengr911]

I don't think that Ivan should be embarrased about this job. He found the problem and fixed it. Even if there had been no prior knowledge, the trouble shooting probably would have followed the nearly same path. The "bad" assumption was that the belt was unrelated to the stalling problem. There's no likely connection between a rubber belt and an electrical problem unless you view things from a mechanical perspective. Assuming that there was a connection would have been as bad as assuming there wasn't. Electrical shorts can happen anywhere in a harness. (Google: rodents car wiring) Not having the very nice professional diagnostic equipment that Ivan has, I would have fixed the belt first. If I had the same equipment I probably would have approached the problem the same way Ivan did. The "time wasted" was the lookup time to get the diagram and track down the electiucal components involved. I'd argue that it might have taken longer, but it wasn't a blind alley. It led to the harness by eliminating the solenoids from the circuit. If the belt had been replaced, there's a better than even chance that the shorted harness would have been moved enough that it wouldn't immediately short again. That would have produced one of those very annoying magical fixes., where the tech feels conflicted about spending more time digging into a problem that's no longer there. An experienced troubleshooter might figure that something around the belt was the cause and look for there for it, but a disappointing number wouldn't.

[@cygnus58]

the fuse could have been laying the the floor :) love SMA seriously Ivan, way to stick it to it

[@stigonutube]

"Hard Way" is there any other way to learn good lessons?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Nope lol

[@jerryblood9554]

You need a circuit breaker.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Absolutely.

[@rrmech11]

jerry blood lol

[@MrScrubs236]

hard in these skreets.

[@fieldsofomagh]

It's always easy in hindsight to know what should have been obvious at the time. At the same time, that belt might not have had anything to do with the fault. Sometimes we have to take the most likeliest direction and hope that it will be the shortest route. Diagnosis is not an exact science as there are so many variables in motion simultaneously and rather than berating yourself, you should be clapping yourself on the back. Think of the experience that has been written into the brain's hard drive to be accessed again at an appropriate situation in the future.

[@Goofygiggles]

11:47 You didn't prove other circuits were causing high current events (Obviously not a criticism you said to comment at that timestamp)

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Well we actually did! The initial current check of the fuse = all circuits. Then I showed the excessive draw just on the one wire, which proves the others are OK :)

[@Goofygiggles]

Oooh I think I meant "sub-circuit". I don't know the correct terminology but weren't all the different solenoid runs including the shorted harness "sub circuits" of the "Eng Sol" circuit?

[@cardude5323]

What the fuck did I hear you say Ivan?? Unsubscribed. XD

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

First Eric O., now you *@22:51*. Sister Mary Elephant will wrap your knuckles, potty mouth! I'd invest in some breakers- fuses get expensive.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Those Italian guys were rubbing off on me! Did you hear the guy's response?? PRICELESS xD

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Oh yeah, I need to get a 20A circuit breaker ASAP haha

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

You'll be swearin like a drunken sailor in no time!

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[@shaunsautorepairs5410]

1st....ye ha

[@JVerschueren]

Paused and you haven't established the fault is not in the wiring itself. If that belt has been like that for a while, that motor and everything on it has been shook, a lot, so something might have rubbed through.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

True...and it turned out to be the case!

[@fredflintstone8048]

We tend to learn more from our failures than from our successes. Good work!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Isn't that the truth!

[@robinsonsmotorcycleandauto3929]

Wow you surprised me with the curse word lol. Great video Ivan but I was really hoping for the Hummer video when I seen the title lol. Keep up the great work

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Oh I'm saving the best for last ;)

[@robinsonsmotorcycleandauto3929]

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics I tell you and Keith really have my curiosity at the Max lol that is going to be a huge case study and can't wait to see it. Maybe a little clue for me please lol. Was it a complex repair or simple. It's always a pleasure watching your case studys

[@robinsonsmotorcycleandauto3929]

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics Also I was going to say if you ever need a diagram from like Prodemand or Identifix just text me and I will try to get you one asap.

[@lifekludger]

Some guys would bury the evidence and not show us these videos where you get led down a wrong path. Good on you for thinking beyond yourself and offering it as a teaching point.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks, David. I initially was so bummed, I didn't want to post this one. But you are absolutely right, might as well share the learning experience with all the mistakes included :)

[@mmichaeldonavon]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Ivan. You ARE "da man." YOU are the one the others can watch and learn from. YOU have integrity and grit. My hat is always off to you.

[@higherregion]

this same exact thing happened in another youtuber mechanic video. Same car, and same issue with belt damaging harness...youtber is advanced level auto

[@theadventuresofjavier8698]

Makes you want to work on more cars from the motherland. Tough, simple vehicles.

[@TheDisgruntledMechanic]

cut the wire! oh no! You got it in the end which to me is what matters.

[@kyhomegarage3430]

Excellent work Ivan. Thank you for taking your time to show us your diagnostic process. Very impressive as always. Cheers

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks Ramon. Kind of got beat up on this one but that makes me hungry for more challenge haha

[@haywardsautomotive6156]

Great diagnosis Ivan and sometimes things just start adding together and I know the feeling. Eric just had one of those days also.

[@tam1381]

Looks like Nissan have been taking electrial diagram tips from VW........

[@freebird1ification]

yep

[@BigDog50001]

These are the jobs (and lessons) you don’t forget. Good job getting it in the end Ivan.

[@throttlebottle5906]

Ivan inserted foot in mouth in this video lol. I noticed looking at the diagrams things are all scrambled up in them. a stupid jeep liberty recently had me cussing early because fuse labeled fuel injectors was blown and had no com, so I was thinking the worst, overheated/bad injectors/blown ecm. but I quickly jammed meter in place of fuse and had them crank it, if fired instantly drawing 29 amps on 20 amp mete, complete with alternator pouring smoke(yeehaw). quickly shut it off, unplugged alt. re-started. that quick it was problem solved, after cussing, expecting and dreading the worst case. :))

[@toddrodriguez6783]

I love your Channel want to start my own 35 Years California , Bakersfield ,Best Auto Service Little Auto Electric Shop Smog Repair

[@R.E.HILL_]

Strange with all the comments about one word... As far as I know this channel isn't under the moronic guidelines of Standard and Practices...

[@samcripes3046]

Best lessons are learned hard. Best mistakes are lessons.

[@genethurman646]

Can you do a video on how to navigate through the BBB web site for wiring diagrams . I see you roll from one to the other easily . Not the case as i navigate through them . I am lucky if i can find the circuit i am looking for . Let alone move from one page to the other to trace a circuit . I can only pull one page at a time from the main menu . Thanks

[@Ermal193]

I did not see that coming... The moral of the story here in my opinion is that f...ing belt problem caused all the bs. But we all learned something didn't we !

[@john7613]

Most common giveaway is the serp belt that's frayed and hitting the vvt sol wiring harness and dead shorting to ground blowing the fuse, its location is hell.

[@dinobot_maximize]

wtf a engie mount with wires going to it lol first world problems of making a smoother feeling engine. theyre turning mechanics into first world problem solvers

[@aleksandrzinkevics1253]

Hi Ivan Have u done codes before u start?

[@chuckwwillingham530]

Lol, no way that’s better than MB factory diagrams....