(Pt 1) $10,000 PARTS CANNON....Runs Like GARBAGE! (Chevy 2500HD V8)

Oh we have a JUICY case study for this weekend...grab your popcorn!!
This 2012 Chevy Silverado 2500HD V8 is a hard-working truck with 430k miles!!
Owner replaced the engine 4 years ago, and everything was great until the last few months...
The Big Chevy started running like GARBAGE!
The Dealer and local shops couldn't figure it out...
The FRUSTRATED owner loaded up his own PARTS CANNON, but that didn't work either.
EVERY electrical component under the hood has been replaced, including the ECM and 5 FUEL PUMPS!!!
**ALL-TIME PARTS CANNON RECORD!!**
The truck is really hard to start cold, and both LEAN and RICH codes are stored...CRAZY!
Let's start from scratch, look at the history, read codes, plot some scan data and go for a test drive.
The owner has DOUBTS that PHAD can pinpoint the problem...he is ready to JUNK HIS TRUCK!!
How long will it take to nail down this issue?
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Enjoy!
Ivan

[@tomtke7351]

I'm a retired geezer with only minor auto repair experience... When watching Ivan I develop a thinking that his videos are required viewing for pro mechanics. That it's a way to experience COMPLICATED repairs. Are there many pro mechanics watching??

[@anonymuswere]

if todays techs don't watch, neither do some older mechanics. the young guys will be mentally tired as well as physically, and I can just hear the "newfangled doohickey" complaints in old guy voices just by imagining them.

[@stevegerhart929]

I’ve been a diesel tech for 36 years. I love watching Ivan show how it gets done with real diagnostic data. Parts cannon is never the answer.

[@mistsmogguru8378]

Yep

[@JOHNSUE28]

I'm Semi retired. 48 years experience. ASE and GM Master and L1 drivability certified. I marvel at Ivan's Thought process and actually build the vehicle and diagnose along with him.

[@farmermiyagi1338]

Dude, I have a customer (We actually grew up together) with a 2500HD that had same issues when he bought it. He is one of those people that will tell you what he wants done. I finally sent him somewhere else because I got tired of changing the parts he wanted changed. I got to the point that when he brings a vehicle and tries to tell me what he thinks is wrong, I tell him "I don't want to hear what you think is wrong Wes. I don't care what you think is wrong. I want you to tell me what the issue is and I will find out what's wrong." XD I believe he told me he finally had an ECM put in it and it cured his running probs.

[@dustcommander100]

I've been helping an older friend with a classic car. He can't drive and enjoy it for more than a few minutes without finding another problem. I don't think it's possible to satisfy him. And I think his memory about how it drove when new is suspect.

[@harrystern7893]

Ooo

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

I had the same problem with people noitalls in my county where i lived.... They Ask you to repair or fix something and they don't even have the tools to fix it... Or I have a track machine that I use for all kinds of jobs. They open their mouth and say it can't do that. Got real kn sick of their ignorance....

[@benjamineastman9429]

Guy wrote that its not Ivan's typical problem, he must never have watched this channel before...

[@kerrylewis2581]

I thought the same thing

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

​@@kerrylewis2581 I second that....

[@edwinlomonaco6754]

The one thing about parts cannon situations.........often times whoever shot it created more problems and you end up having to sift through that before getting to the original problem.

[@ferrumignis]

There's probably only a handful of Ivan's videos where aftermarket junk _hasn't_ caused issues.

[@sprograt]

I'm 10 minutes into the video and Ivan has just read out the paperwork this sounds like it's going to be a good video, I've got every confidence that Ivan is going to knock this out of the park.

[@shawnbelford3433]

After seeing the title I was getting ready to watch an 8 part series just fixing everything that had been "repaired" already. Then I remembered it was Ivan. Probably only 2 parter! Clear, concise thought process for the win! Thanks again for another interesting case study!!

[@MrTonyPiscatelle]

Best diag man in the business. I get a kick out of watching your work your craft. I think one thing you have over the mass of diag folks is you pay attention to the data plus you understand what the data is trying to tell you. I've learned a lot from watching you diag and repair cars and trucks. You make this stuff look somewhat simple. Great work Ivan

[@peugeotplanet7553]

There's no day I watch Ivan's content and I don't learn something new❤

[@GarryFishermusic]

Bottom line is Ivan saves the day the world can rotate correctly now . Owner ought to be pleased if for no other reason than “serenity now “ achieved

[@CarCareAuto]

Hey Ivan, Nima from CarCare here, It's always the aftermarket parts lol! Just wanted to say, I left a comment the other day saying you inspired me to start my own channel, and today I finally uploaded my first full length video. I'd appreciate any feedback. As always thanks for everything!

[@sumitrapatel1610]

Great 😂

[@anonymuswere]

welcome to the diag team.

[@mikefoehr235]

Good luck

[@gwrider2146]

Can't wait for part 2! Perhaps from now on whenever you get a parts cannon vehicle, have your future customers list when, where, and how much they paid for each of them to help rule out the counterfeit parts.

[@NeoAndersonReloaded]

Its hard to avoid fakes now unless u spend a mint even then you feel ripped off. That world we live in now. Its sad

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

They replaced it 5 times because they don't have a clue what they are doing. And in this Generation it's a replace and guess Society... Great job Ivan 👍

[@larryberry2436]

Can’t wait for part 2. I learned a lot today.

[@billkaczynski7709]

Ivan you are the Perry Mason of auto diagnostics! I’ll bet that the owner is totally embarrassed, lessons learned…

[@allisoncawthon2551]

In Louisiana the dealer would say you probably have mud chiggers in the fuel line son. Looking forward to part 2. So many things changed, and new problems installed, you reach a point where you say what was the problem.

[@billziegmond4943]

Parts Canon is an understatement. That received incoming parts from a whole field artillery unit of parts cannons! Nice work my friend. Can't wait for part 2. BTW Christine (Astra from Hell) is back! Guess what? He had a Flea Bay Cat put on for $69.00 I am putting a reputable Cat on today ( OEM Available) Cat cost $620.00. Want to bet it solves the cat efficiency code?

[@kevin9c1]

GM/AC Delco injectors are $35/ea on Rockauto, which is a supplier we trust.

[@mrblonde2013]

Every time i have seen rich AND lean codes on the same bank it is because of aftermarket garbage parts. Thanks Ivan, you made quick work of this one. Your skill and critical thinking is awe inspiring. Since there is a part 2, i assume there are more issues to be discovered?😂😂😂

[@larstell]

Did he bring the old engine? 😂 Once we had a bad VW. The dealer changed parts and then we brought it to an independent shop. He had worked at VW and cleaned the throttle. - "didn't VW know that".

[@htownblue11]

Here’s the thing about parts cannon vehicles…..it can make diagnosing even more difficult if they bought cheap parts. I’m not even half way through and feel bad for Ivan because he’s having to untangle a complete mess which may have been easier if he saw it first. If Ivan can’t fix it, it’s demon possessed and you need to throw it in a volcano as a sacrifice.

[@brianw8963]

I guess moderator didn’t like me using the what the -- acronym. Good grief. If I installed a new engine, I think I would not have used the old 300K injectors, unless perhaps they were recently replaced before the engine replacement. I was assuming the owner did use oem , good catch Ivan. Those too good to be true prices most often are just that. 👍👍🇺🇸. ( I only used that acronym in a humorous description, that’s ok, understandable. )

[@t5ruxlee210]

If the "new" fuel injectors, etc., are simply "reprocessed" from the dud dumpster at the PRC factory on weekend midnight shifts they would still be in full harmony with ancient Confucian based commercial law norms...

[@ozhoo]

They are "guaranteed" to be OEM injectors 😂

[@lieutenantdan8170]

First thing i would've done is revert everything back to the old parts when the issue initially started, all the cannoned parts are new variables

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

That would take too much time without guaranteed results... We must follow the DATA 😉

[@jimpetty2961]

Great video Ivan the master of logic

[@anonymuswere]

popcorner indeed! if there's one thing I've learned from you, it's that OBD2 era *needs OEM or the computers fry themselves*!

[@mikefoehr235]

God I love watching this channel

[@stevecorey3399]

OK Ivan I am at eight minutes and 50 seconds into the video and I’m gonna take a stab at a faulty regulator in the fuel system, sure sounds like a pressure system problem to me, I absolutely knew it was something in the fuel system at eight minutes in,, I was suspecting bad fuel also, but I concur that these overseas parts are absolutely crap! I purchased the same scan tool last year that you use so far, I am very happy with it… still fixing cars at 69 years old

[@Knight_of_NI]

Good morning Ivan and PHAD family

[@dustcommander100]

$10k in parts and labor. Ouch! I've paid over $10k for only 1 car I've ever owned, and it was new. I've been driving since 1975.

[@metoon3092]

Great video Ivan.

[@paulmuff9883]

I’m only 10 minutes in and before finishing video I’m making a prediction that you will find this problem as you are one of the best guys I have ever found on KZbin finding fiction problems we’ll see you at the end but I just thought I’d make this prediction before I get more than 10 minutes into it, good luck, Iven the Man 😊

[@prevost8686]

One thing about getting a vehicle that’s had the parts cannon blasted at it is that it does give a relatively good idea of what isn’t wrong with it 😂. I’m not making light of the customer’s plight but as a technician I’ve received vehicles like this that I repaired relatively quickly and it wasn’t necessarily because I was so good. It was more like I had a pretty detailed record of what wasn’t wrong with it.

[@kerrylewis2581]

Fake parts have become an enormous problem. Have I been tempted to buy based on price? Yes I have. Have I done it? That is a big N O.

[@HighTechBull]

It is crazy that they changed the fuel pump so many times that they cut a hole in the bed of the truck. I have seen Internet self described geniuses recommend doing this on other GM vehicles. So stupid. How about hook up a pressure gauge like you did here. That proved that the fuel pump was delivering the proper pressure.

[@nhzxboi]

Are you sure the engine displacement didn't suddenly jump by 20%??? Better do an engine volume test :P

[@richtfox]

On hearing the history of this vehicle, I would start with body, frame power train grounding.

[@dannymullen2978]

Wow, parts cannon and the ammo dump in passenger seat!

[@roybm3124]

Amazing video, really looking forward to the next one. I think there is more 😅.

[@major__kong]

Why did he replace the fuel injectors to begin with? Maybe I missed that part. Will you unmask the original problem once you get good injectors installed?

[@topher8634]

Wasn't it Einstein that said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results?

[@1954307]

brilliant ivan you really are the man

[@TheOnespeedbiker]

Can't remember how many times we've heard, Ivan your my last hope..

[@MsFireboy2]

Ivan my thoughts are non-factory fuel injectors. Possible flow issues?

[@oldjesus8978]

Customer didn't know who he was dealing with when he said he didn't think you could diag his truck !!!

[@billsimpson604]

Those Chinese injectors ended up being the world's most expensive fuel injectors outside of the ones in cruise ships.

[@DonDegidio]

Hi Ivan, When he mentioned about doing the underbody wash and it running better, could the cab ground be getting frayed? I've had two vehicles manuals in AllData for years when they had the $60 per year. Now with the new system only available plan is $119 per month. I'm not a repair shop but wanted to be able to access data when needed. Do you know of another reasonably priced option available for the home mechanic? Stay safe.

[@reneneron2971]

@@DonDegidio given the erratic fuel trims and the vehicle running just fine under certain conditions, I suspect correlation versus causation. Coincidence. Owner is desperate at this point and likely very frustrated. Data is key…fuel trims clearly indicate this is a fuel delivery issue.

[@neilmurphy845]

That's why if i need electrical parts for my car I will always go to the actual motor factors or dealership to get the parts because you don't know if these parts are real or not online unless it's been a used part

[@tylermacconnell217]

How many transmissions has this truck had with that kind of mileage?

[@haroldhawkins9370]

Nice video Ivan.

[@mikeys1459]

Ivan can you trust Rock Auto?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

So far no comebacks 🙂

[@jackschissler255]

I would start from scratch. Put all the original parts back in and start there to see where problem was at. I’m thinking so many new parts were thrown in that you cannot tell which is causing the issues, just because it’s a new part don’t mean it works.

[@kellygibson7299]

The guy paid the same amount of $ trying to repair this truck that I paid for a running / driving diesel over 2 years ago that just now has 195k miles. When will people realize that having a warranty means absolutely nothing?! I mention the warranty because if the repairs needed are outside of the allowed timeframe / mileage OR the shop where the warranty originated cannot fix the issue, it is useless.

[@carltonlane8931]

I’ve just started watching,bad ground ,body to chassis?

[@billyyoder8171]

A cornucopia of parts 😂.

[@jdretiree2433]

P.R.C strikes again.

[@crisprtalk6963]

om my god,,, am I reading the title right? 10,000$ parts cannon???

[@stevecorey3399]

OK Ivan I am at eight minutes and 50 seconds into the video and I’m gonna take a stab at a faulty regulator in the fuel system, sure sounds like a pressure system problem to me

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Pressure regulator is internal to the pump... Which they replaced 5 TIMES! 😄

[@johnt.848]

The imbalance in fuel trims is interesting, between bank one and bank two, are half of the injectors fakes? Can a flow test be done on the injectors to see what they actually flow?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

No sense in doing that since all the injectors are Chinese knock offs 😅

[@_RiseAgainst]

More likely the poor manufacturer quality is making them all inject different amounts of fuel.

[@steventiry8701]

My first thought was an imploded fuel line. That would also explain why he said it ran different every time and why they kept changing the fuel pump.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Fuel pressure check ruled that out right away 😊

[@SeanBZA]

Just now updated my scan tool, subscription expired, but no indication of the expiry at all, so update went through, but it bricked it. Darn differences in month formats, now will not be an issue mixing up 9/11 as 11/9 again, as now 21/9 is day and month.

[@autotek7930]

Incorrectly routed harness, pinched maybe

[@GeneG-wk2mz]

When I seen that p0172 code yep that’s the bad thing about eBay

[@knockywigglesworth1909]

Another parts cannon disaster!

[@neilmurphy845]

Why do people just throw parts at things I don't understand the amount of money he spent he could have easily afforded a proper mechanic to look at it ages ago and to make things worse he probably swapped out good parts with bad

[@kylewilhelm9397]

Was a fuel pump percentage pid available?

[@billmalec]

That's like 36,000 miles per year? Yikes.

[@jordysandino6577]

Hello sir . Great video as usual . Mr Alexander you have say in another videos that you will get the parts from eBay I ask you how to get used parts from them so far not answer. But seem like you use them 🤷🏻‍♂️ Is just a question body

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Yes used OEM parts are usually fine because they are guaranteed OEM! 😊

[@CedroCron]

Another broke down Chevrolet that came in today, oh what a day to spend with Ivan today!

[@stevewhite3424]

Yeah, what it POS only 400000 plus miles, and it's been hacked on by God knows how many supposed mechanics.

[@CedroCron]

@@stevewhite3424 You can keep anything on the road forever even for 400,000 miles. The question is, who can do it with the least repairs and that is never a "Domestic"

[@NVRAMboi]

Thanks Ivan. "TRC = Taiwan, Republic of China". Though I wouldn't even count on that being accurate. Taiwan (free market) is/wants to be politically and otherwise independent from communist mainland China (CCP). China claims Taiwan as sovereign territory. I'm pretty sure you're somewhat aware of that tense situation. The CCP/China is very very very "touchy" about anyone referring to Taiwan as a "nation". (LOL, just ask John Cena). Thanks again, interesting case so far.

[@breezy1849]

He read out PRC = People's Republic of China = Mainland China

[@davidgrisco1939]

I'd be looking for intake manifold leaks...

[@jeremypilot1015]

MFing GM shouldn't be allowed to charge 80 dang dollars for a single injector!

[@RMartin631]

Without going past the 8:00 minute mark, I would check for missing/loose grounds. There are a ton of codes being set and that usually indicates a common fault.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Would be a waste of time without more specific direction. If there were a bunch of related "circuit" codes, then look at a wiring diagram to see if they share a common ground 👍

[@janpur1417]

I ONCE BOUGHT CHINESE FOG LIGHTS TO MY 100 SERIES LANDCRUISER: BOTH COSTS LESS THAN THE PRICE OF 1 OEM.. JUST IN 10 MONTHS THE DAMN CHINESE CRAP STARTED FADING AND THE RUBBER GASKET TO KEEP WATER OUT AROUND THE H4 BULB WAS DISINTEGRATING AS SOON AS YOU TOUCH IT! SAVE YOUR MONEY.. BUY IT GENUINE.

[@larstell]

Do a short info on fuel trims. I never get it, is it before or after adjustment? ⛽😩😖

[@davidquinn6161]

Matt , at the Schrodingers Box KZbin channel has an excellent in-depth video about fuel trims.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Trims are just the amount of fuel the ECM is adding or subtracting from the base fuel map in real time attempting to achieve a stoichiometric ratio 😉

[@CrimeVid]

I wonder what the problem with the new engine really was, it would be nice to know what the order of operations, but I'll bet they did a bunch of parts changes at a time ! It would be funny if it was something silly like a vacuum leak !

[@remogaggi82]

Owner may be on suicide watch if it was something simple. Best not to know

[@WillKlaver]

.. sounds like he got a Badly Rebuilt Engine if all this stuff started After .. 😳👨‍🔧🧰

[@keysautorepair6038]

Are you serious never heard of fake ac delco or Delphi parts wow.

[@kevin9c1]

Maybe it has non-flex fuel injectors? I would think those would be higher flow. EDIT: Ah. Well that confirms that the alcohol "sensor" is just a calculation. It thought there was ethanol in the fuel due to the lean condition.

[@ChrisCreech-uf2ty]

That's a park ranger or Warren truck 😊

[@Ella-o2w]

I watch you with great pleasure. Your videos are a true work of art.👺⚫️🌪

[@snubbelbuff1471]

...How do the bots get here so quick?

[@kevin9c1]

First thing I'd do is see if this is a real alcohol sensor or just a calculated value. I recall that the calculated value vehicles can drift and need to be "reset." I realize this SHOULD cause a rich condition if it thinks it has 43% alcohol when it doesn't but there are demonstrated fuel trim issues so definitely a place to look.

[@richb419]

HI Ivan, how can you be sure you are getting actual GM injectors from Rock auto? Rich

[@reneneron2971]

Because they are a reputable online seller and back all their parts with a generous return policy. Reputation is key to their business model. As a seller, they are also liable if selling genuine OEM auto parts advertised as such that are not. Since they are online only, they could also be liable for committing mail fraud. Ebay isn’t the seller…they are enabling a transaction between the seller and buyer. Rockauto has low prices on OEM parts due to leverage and lower margins (but much higher volumes) relative to a dealership selling the same parts. If it is too good to be true…

[@chrisstoddard1144]

Where did you see over 50%?

[@jordysandino6577]

I’m not criticizing you sir .

[@rogertraylor6048]

I think you will find a bad ground

[@SHSPVR]

Interesting the alcohol content is super high that a problem plus along with Injectors and by the Ivan there only 35 each and something you have to watch out for is the seller when it comes to auto parts general you do not want to buy them from a user because more than likely they did the old switcheroo by swapped parts out with a cleanup used part or some other cheap part from elsewhere.

[@bamboozled9120]

2012 , 430K miles , 10K in repair attempts .........huh owner needs a reality check .

[@mejalli911]

Is this a diesel engine?

[@johnt.848]

No, it uses regular gas as alcohol is not added to diesel.

[@anonymuswere]

unusually, no! I thought they stopped putting gas engines in HDs a long time ago :P

[@reneneron2971]

@@mejalli911 diesels don’t use ignition coils or spark plugs.

[@mejalli911]

@@reneneron2971 oh that’s right. I always thought HD trucks are all diesel. Thank u.

[@nickayivor8432]

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[@calopii]

Cheapskates get burned.

[@Han-l7e5l]

Your videos always leave a deep imprint in the hearts of your viewers. Thank you for your creativity and sincerity!🥕💋🏍

[@snubbelbuff1471]

...How do the bots get here so quick?

[@jasonb5833]

Iven , stay away from these thots