PING Drivers Comparison Old vs. New | 20 Years of PING Driver Technology

[@donsnow4564]

Still use my ping eye 2+, tisi driver and zing 2i putter. Bought on ebay in 2002. Just love them

[@Caddiesense]

The most interesting thing I see here is that certain OEMs (who I won't pinpoint....but everyone knows) tell us we are going to gain 2-3 mph ballspeed every time they issue a new driver every 6 months. This basically showed there was only a 4 mph difference over TWENTY YEARS (20+ actually) of driver models! Great job on this video.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching. It is also club fitting by dialing in the driver for a golfers tendencies that can help increase ball speed but forgiveness is the most important factor with drivers today!

[@davidpearson243]

Your experiment completely mirrors my experience I changed from a 2009 TM Superfast to a G400 max I play on the same course If I hit them both out of The screws The are in the same place but my goodness for off centre hits the difference is massive

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching, and thanks for letting us know. We agree forgiveness is key!

[@joshpashia637]

Coming into this video i was wondering about getting the 425 over the just launched 430 since thats a lateral move and the 425 looks better but id rather have a short ball on occasion then that far left right dispersion. My i25 is 43.5in aldila nv 65s Nxt gen MLT shaft swing weight D3.7 and i still manage over 300 on holes I feel confident enough to really go for it. Guess im keeping what i got another year. Longest drive yesterday was 323

[@kevinwood1722]

Using the stock offerings in the shafts with each model is a perfect test to me because we are talking advances in technology and that should include the shafts

[@gregidour7315]

Back in 98 I would have had the Top Flite Intimidator and Wilson Fat Shaft drivers. Great vid guys

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching!

[@kimmorrison9169]

my 15 yr old Ping G5 still in the bag and performs very well for me. I bought a 2018 Callaway Rouge used in ‘19 and the distance is similar but my Ping dispersion MUCH better. The Callaway tended to fade more with an occasional slice. The G5 has a deep face and narrower clubhead. I will try the Callaway a bit this Spring to see if my swing changes made any difference.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching. We plan on comparing old v new Callaway drivers as well!

[@MrHugo1986]

Great video! Very informative, good work guys! Wish you had some shops in the U.K.!

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching!

[@shawnkislenger3024]

Great test. I’m looking forward to coming into the shop to hit the G425.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching. We have the G425 fitting components in our fitting bays, we would love to help you dial in your driver! What location is closest to you?

[@shawnkislenger3024]

@@2ndswing I always come into the MPLS shop to get fitted. I’ll be scheduled in March for sure!

[@banditbaker1675]

Thanks Guys that was a fascinating comparison. I have never hit any of the hotels on the 18th but I did once managed to bounce a tee shot up Links Rd without hitting anyone or any cars, it was probably my longest ever drive and undoubtedly my most embarrassing! PS and it was with a PING driver (but I can't remember the exact model)

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching. First time for Thomas. Most important takeaway is the newer technology is more forgiving and will not go as far offline on mis shits.

[@thecringegolfer]

Neat comparison as technology changed to make it more forgiving.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching

[@gerardhynes5825]

At last i know why i love my G25. I needed high spin and it is a fairway finder.

[@2ndswing]

Sometimes spin helps to hit the ball straighter and stay in the air longer. Always player dependent.

[@idratherbegolfing4028]

I recently was fit for a G410 at the newer low price. Funny how little there is in it when it comes to a player who is a really good driver of the ball. Obviously the new drivers are way more stable but the distance claims by a lot of major companies is laughable. Great content guys!

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching. There has been ball speed gains, but keep in mind a lot is player dependent a good ball striker can hit great shots with older technology but forgiveness is the deciding factor.

[@cwmcclintock5757]

Fun comparison. In defense of my old TiSi that I still use on narrow old courses cut out of forests ;).......That Graf 350 Cushin shaft? Used to fit those clubs on Demo days. Balancing buyer tempo and clubhead speed, those 350s had nice wide and overlapping ranges in Reg and Stiff. Fitting was somewhat childproof. However, if the swing/tempo was out of flex range one teensy bit, the performance collapse was scary dramatic. Your tempo and 111 mph clubhead speed? I would have given you an X-Stiff and hope you didn't warp/outrun that. ;) Great stuff keep it up.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching! The TiSi was groundbreaking for fitting even back over 20 years ago

[@Lawsurf1]

How much effect did the shafts have in this test. I will say that there have also been drastic improvements in the shaft technology for the past 20years.

[@2ndswing]

Golf shafts have definitely improved just like all technology. The challenge is most of the drivers had bonded shafts. They were all "stock" stiff and the loft of the leads were similar to make the test as true as possible given what we have to work with.

[@kimmorrison9169]

Shafts have taken huge price increases over the past 20 yrs and a shaft can make or break you. I will add there is no good reliable way to know what you need in a golf shaft when it pertains to weight, torque and tip stiffness unless you really get into the weeds on shaft construction and testing. You shouldn’t be using what pros use either! I just hope the mfg’s are selecting the best compromises for normal golfers!

[@parmanduke]

I used to play the TiSi and wow that was a really long club for me and not much shorter even after 20 years is rather astounding. But give me the MOI of the G425 Max all day all year 24/7.

[@2ndswing]

We agree forgiveness is key!

[@adamgill5138]

Hey guys, love these videos. Can you do a Titleist comparison? I've always played Titleist and am curious to see results. Thanks!

[@2ndswing]

Stay tuned it is on our list! We plan on doing all of the manufacturers so far have completed TaylorMade and Callaway

[@diogeneslantern18]

The Ping Karsten TiSi driver was hot shit back in its day. My old man wouldn't let me touch it.

[@zachsreelexp7248]

Can you a comparison of the Taylormade Burner vs the Callaway Epic Max??

[@2ndswing]

We plan on comparing the new SIM 2 drivers and Callaway Epic drivers along with other manufacturers that just released their new equipment. When comparing the Burner to newer models you will notice more forgiveness on your off center shots.

[@zachsreelexp7248]

@@2ndswing thank you for the info!! Can’t wait to see the comparison video!

[@stephendibari5010]

GReat comparison. Would’ve liked to see G400 Max in the mix so i can compare it the G425 Max. (I see you went every 5 years so that’s why you didn’t include the G400Max) How about a direct head to head video? May want to pick up a good used G400 Max if the stats are very similar.. based on these results the overall spin consistency would be slightly higher with the G425 Max. The MOI of the G400 Max is at 9,900 slightly less than the G425 Max.

[@bobbrown5951]

I think there are some online reviewers who have done that comparison. True Spec Golf did one

[@stephendibari5010]

@@bobbrown5951 thanks ! I’ll search for it

[@2ndswing]

Hi Stephen we have also shot the G400 Max V G410 Plus v G425 Max video. Stay patient it will post soon we just have a lot of other videos to also go up with other equipment releases. Thanks for watching!

[@stephendibari5010]

@@bobbrown5951 i found and watched it, they claim an increase in ball speed of 2 mph which is nice and the G400Max is a lot louder, where the G425 Max is muted , testing was done outdoors and you can hear the sound difference. Major difference. Not very extensive with data unlike the 2nd Swing guys, not even close, but its worth a view for sure.

[@stephendibari5010]

@@2ndswing Awesome, ill be watching it for sure! Thanks !!

[@ScottDreyfus]

Ping broke the mold with the original isi

[@2ndswing]

On the good strikes it was still very good!

[@brianwalsh6048]

Does your Tisi have a nice little rattle like mine? Its festive!!!!

[@narendradhaneswara2011]

Nice review. I'm surprised that Ping G2 Driver has low spin.

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching!

[@pewie1042]

G2 and g10 are sleepers 100%

[@Golfzilla70]

Great vid guys. One thing i think might be missing in the equation is the golf ball itself. I know there's probably not a fool-proof way to test a driver in a certain period of time with a ball from its same time, but that would be cool to know (you could round up a golf ball, but it might be deader due to age than when it was brand new). Pros like Jack Nicklaus are satisfied the ball is making almost all the difference, and after this test, i'm starting to believe it. The trampoline effect on these faces today is right against the max allowed, and possibly some of the earlier drivers didn't even have that requirement (or possibly, they're more springy due to use and age!). Still the same conclusion though --- today's driver is much more forgiving than yesteryear's driver, while the distance using today's ball hasn't changed all that much. It's probably not a result most people like due to the way these clubs are marketed, but it is a result that's actually better for probably 99% of all golfers :)

[@sean8081a]

PING TiSi with a modern shaft might be a good club.

[@stephenparish9853]

What about the G20?

[@robertmorgan4015]

I wish someone would compare the PING i15 to me models.. that was the longest driver I ever had. But I kept cracking the face on them

[@hoseman18]

Considering that most folks looking for a Ping driver are looking for forgiveness over pure distance, having someone hitting it in the center of the clubface every time doesn't really tell us much. If this comparison is strictly for entertainment purposes, then you've certainly achieved that. If it is for educational purposes also, then having someone that can mishit the ball purposely would tell a much more complete story.

[@metalgearfan9802]

Aw Ping G2, my beloved, lmao

[@2ndswing]

😂😂

[@cpt3475]

That’s crazy!

[@2ndswing]

The great shots with older technology was still pretty good but the important takeaway is how the level of forgiveness has changed.

[@tomsettles6873]

Good video but the stock TFC shaft in the G15 is garbage. The newer ping drivers have much better stock shafts. I bought G15 9 new with a Serrano and G15 10.5 with Red 69 Axivcore and get 2000 - 2300 spin wit both drivers. Its the longest, most forgiving and straightest driver I've ever hit, and I've tested over 100 drivers. Its difficult NOT to hit the G15 straight. The G25 is probably #2 in performance for me but the feel of the strike is not as good as the G15.

[@Dropping_Mags0_O]

Lol of course it be more forgiving it is brand new technology

[@2ndswing]

Thanks for watching, we sure hope the technology today makes the game easier for all - Thomas