Pinnacle 2019 SSBU - CACAW | Big D (Ice Climbers) Vs DEM | Pandarian (PT) Smash Ultimate Grand Final

Pinnacle 2019 is a Super Smash Bros Ultimate Tournament in Richmond BC, Canada
Streamed Live at: / vgbootcamp
Brackets: smash.gg/tourn...
#SmashUltimate #SuperSmashBros #Ultimate -- Watch live at / vgbootcamp

[@mms7328]

love how the ices went from being you get grabbed infinite to you get grab i do this ultra mega combo that took me 3 weeks to master and all my brain cells

[@TheGenchannel]

yeah dying to them went from being lame as fuck to being cool as shit

[@dagingerbreadman70]

TheGenchannel never knew “shit” was so much cooler than “fuck”

[@keaton3258]

@@dagingerbreadman70 the words surrounding cool and fuck are important to the context

[@Dumbidiotguy45]

SIKE! THATS THE WRONG CLIMBER

[@Youngfly1210]

mike15709 I said that shit out load in the voice and everything

[@BenRay47]

@@Youngfly1210 sure buddy

[@kakarotlovesgames6962]

😂 good one

[@nuibaba280]

LMAO

[@Hacktendo64]

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH

[@Ejaezy]

"That stock meant so much for his mentality" *Gets spiked*

[@TrinJeto]

"BUT HE GOT SPIKED!" Lmao that was hype

[@paulb3480]

This match was a rollercoaster from start to finish

[@2FadeMusic]

So back and forth... two insane players

[@reid2203]

Commentary added to the hype too

[@Heyim18bro]

idk, all I saw was a panda taking a big D

[@vvelux7018]

Heyim18bro panda was definitely dominant in the mad section

[@michaelcross7665]

Noob kept trying to use a grass type against an ice type pffft

[@okthen1296]

Right? Just ohko him with a flare blitz from Charizard, ya tard 👏😤👏😤

[@snailman2833]

Imagine using a grass type against an ice type

[@blackbirdazurite6118]

Ice Climbers used Desync * IT IS SUPER EFFECTIVE*

[@nappaweekly9874]

I could have use a flying type move against ivysuar

[@CrushIsABand]

Love seeing Big D finish strong at events, such a great person, it's like fulfilling to see him succeed lol

[@jermainetalaepa8463]

bet you love seeing big d finish strong

[@slandergames9494]

@@jermainetalaepa8463 was about to make that same joke. Lol

[@vvelux7018]

Captain Falcon then why watch him?

[@windows9515]

@The Yonko way to drag out the joke lol

[@Jinfwjump]

well you look like guy he was fighting

[@WatchUsReviewStuff]

the desync for the ending combo in true icy glory

[@joshuabela5374]

That was ridiculous. 24:51

[@RichardBlaziken]

Ice Climbers can't be in any Smash game without being like this. Big D has mastered these characters, and man does this look horrifying to play against

[@NinjaGamer820]

Ehhh I wouldn't say mastered yet. He's getting hella close tho.

[@godmaxer]

I think it's even scarier that he hasn't mastered icees yet. Imagine what they'll look like in 2 years

[@richardcurrie7308]

Just wait til Japan Ice Climbers arrive.

[@richardcurrie7308]

Ken the Third who is talking about that? We’re talking bout masters of ICs

[@pedrorodriguez9958]

Japan is greater with combo heavy character and give more chance to low tier than we does, also big D is canadian just saying,

[@elpokitolama]

Big D's use of desync in neutral is awesome

[@JonahDeroy]

Behold; the perpetual hitbox.

[@CODYLOUIS]

Facts

[@NightmareSnake]

This match contains two players who are too good to just pick one character at a time.

[@Adloquiem]

Amazing observation lol

[@spastheghost]

So fitting that ice climbers win a tournament that has a mountain as it's logo

[@Snowballsage]

Even more fitting than esam winning a Pokémon themed tournament (glitch 7) as the mascot of Pokémon

[@slimsomething]

aspasiz I guess you could say they *climbed* their way to the top.

[@erronn.]

thanks for spoiling the match dickhead :)

[@lennyface5314]

@@erronn. why would you go to the comments before finishing the match

[@atomicxale]

@@lennyface5314 you see the top comment anyways

[@joshuabela5374]

24:12 "Still in this! Shakes it off. That stock meant so much for his mentality..." "HE GOT SPLIT! IT DOESN'T MATTER!!"

[@jp975]

Spiked*

[@palamon4680]

Ice climbers are my favorite to watch pros destroy with. Props to anyone who has mastered this big brain character

[@retierashia]

Palamon 2 million IQ Ice Climber mains

[@natnew32]

+Air Bear as an IC myself... yeah getting rid of SDs when you rest so heavily on an AI to not have garbage recovery which is buggy as heck to begin with is definitely... a task.

[@nicholaspatino2427]

What always happens in the early stages of a smash game is that Ice Climbers are considered bad and then end up being really good as the Meta develops

[@dereklewis4321]

People need time practice dysync. God they look so sick in this game. Hand offs are some of the coolest smash combos

[@caseregan8166]

Hopefully the Mets can have a really good season next year and we can see Big D travel more!

[@cage.nicolascage.2977]

Who said ice climbers are bad? Ever? Lol

[@heroricspiritfreinen38]

@@dereklewis4321 I don't know how to desync well after patch 3.1.0 can anyone give some tips?

[@andresgarduno7354]

Double up air desync is easy and useful to ledge trap and make projectile walls. Also the jab-out-of-shield desync can lead to powerful kill combos.

[@MarineFocus]

Side B for Ice Climbers is actually so good. Decent damage, syncs the two Icys together if they're close, great coverage, long animation + hitbox, covers horizontal and even some vertical distance, desynced can lead into some combos, and if Icys are separated side B can be used to stall time (that long hitbox/animation) for the other climber to catch up, and after all this, side B comes out very quick and has only just a slight end lag. No wonder it's heavily used by Big D. Props to Pandarian for managing to at least reset the bracket.

[@tahalm3510]

MarineFocus I think another big reason he used it so much was because of its insane priority. It helps out a ton with just going through razor leaf.

[@jehutyinp]

Sister Twister

[@dr.kleimann]

A hidden tech for the sideB is that it also has a very specific window on which you can desync the icies before the move finishes. In many occasions Big D uses it then intermediately shields BUT the desync already happens before he shields because it's buffered before sideB ends. If you dare to approach during that situation you better be sure you're getting blasted to the face with a Nana downB. The shielding helps to 1) cover up Nana's model so you can't instantly tell if she's shielding or attacking 2)If Popo gets attacked or grabed Nana's downB will free him from danger which leads to instant set up punishes. I love how Big D can constantly pull this off because it's not exactly an easy timing to get this done all the time and yet he pulls it out most of the time. Just shows how much labing he must've done to get this character to this level.

[@palamon4680]

“Best baby sitter in the Pacific Northwest”

[@SlantyOlis]

That's an incredibly over-specific title to claim.

[@areke9255]

so glad to see Iceclimbers on the grand finals

[@killager6767]

Big D took every chance to desync the icies in neutral it’s actually crazy

[@dagingerbreadman70]

And yet he didn’t

[@killager6767]

Clearly being hyperbolic but thanks for the unnecessary comment

[@dagingerbreadman70]

😘

[@keaton3258]

@@dagingerbreadman70 so you're that guy huh.

[@dagingerbreadman70]

Keaton I mean, I’m just saying, he barely ever desynced them in neutral, he primarily used bair and squall.

[@BokahblinSans]

Definitely one of the most exciting Grand Finals of smash ultimate! Congrats to Big D for those tournament twitter combos😂😂💪

[@yonatanbeer3475]

Those ain't Twitter combos, those are true.

[@dr.kleimann]

Twitter combos are very situational and can be easily escaped from if alot of conditions are not met. Better go for confirmed setups then unreliable ones in tournaments

[@BokahblinSans]

Ahh okay thanks guys. I meant they look like the kinda cool combos u see on twitter but good to know 💪

[@murasat2662]

I respect Big D. Congratulations!

[@ColmK83]

That final kill was so freaking clean holy moly

[@lute9278]

What Pandarian failed to realize was that Ice is super effective against grass types

[@arbellason2094]

Booooooooo

[@benjacobs1010]

Big respect to both players. I understand Pandarian being frustrated but it's not like the climbers are at all broken and Big D definitely earned most of what he got. Great set though 👌

[@dyllan8774]

Hard to appreciate ice climbers till you know how hard they are to play, especially against a good pokemon trainer

[@studiodiadem]

this is perfection.... pinnacle, being won by THE ICE CLIMBERS. The icy theme with ice cold characters. absolutely amazing finish. he froze his heart and crushed it. way to climb to the top of the mountain and become victorious. man this was beautiful.

[@Rhy2412TitanGamer]

Big D is putting in sooooo much work with Ice Climbers.

[@squiithefishslandoftrash6476]

Ice Climber Twitter combos don't work in tournamen-- oh shit.

[@Whydidtheychangeittohandlesnow]

They need to fix Nana’s AI when recovering lol

[@popo-ou8ib]

It was me who was playing as the secondary climber. It's really not us that's retarded but the rules we have to follow as the "AI climber" which makes us unable to do a lot of fucking shit that would be considered common sense. Fuck the programming team, man

[@chloewinnaa1515]

@@popo-ou8ib bro do you just pretend to be some damn aI character in your free time?

[@popo-ou8ib]

@@chloewinnaa1515 Nah man, I'm just like you, except you can control me in the game. Before the game released, mister Sakurai asked us to practice this AI nonsense like we've always done with every Smash game. Not being able to recover at negligible heights, not even able to use our side B to recover as the AI climber, it's almost second nature for us. Nana even has nightmares about this. I've complained about this since Melee, and all he says is that it's supposed to "make the playing field equal for everyone". Bullshit. I don't even know what AI means. I bet it means the Ass Ice-climber

[@chloewinnaa1515]

@@popo-ou8ib Aight you funny b 😂 you do you and hope sakurai gets that shit fixed 💯

[@MrPooPooJohn]

The way he plays Climbers is like playing two pianos at the same time. One with your hands the other with your feet. Pandarian played pretty fucking well too. Such an awesome match.

[@danielrabinovitz478]

Props to the commentators. They made this hype set so much better

[@Miros_Blumel]

Pandarian took no damage for a minute and 5 seconds from 13:38, THAT WAS CRAZY!

[@Psytheslasher]

Dude big d is gettin so nasty! One of my favorite players to watch and i main falcon lol

[@tas562]

Said no REAL falcon main ever

[@theseb5981]

Catastor Big D's desyncs don't care about what character you main.

[@TheMansterTruck]

His smash 4 falcon was pretty neat

[@PpRZman]

Big D has used a lot of under represented chars like Dedede!!

[@kaifulbright5241]

I am now a fan of the Big D.

[@dorsmap]

This dudes climbers are overwhelming. Commentary was hype too

[@ThinkingReality]

I came in expecting some absolutely sick Icies tech. I WAS NOT DISAPPOINTED.

[@EarthUPC]

Came here for ice climbers. Left feeling satisfied.

[@jigzy1466]

The first set of this was so intense, but then Pandarian got destroyed in the second set. Good effort from both players though!

[@jigzy1466]

Yeah fair point there, icies were just too much for him to handle. It's hard to play against icies when Big D is such a good icies player and they do quite well against Pokemon Trainer.

[@wlt3585]

@@jerryjohnson736 My dude he got 0-deathed, 2 stocked, spiked, and overall no momentum over the entire set. Thats as closed as its gonna be to being destroyed in a competitive setting with top players

[@a.h6324]

Hype commentators and hype set with hype players. Big D is definitely my favourite player to watch with fatality😋

[@charlesmitchell7864]

Would love it if the whole aesthetic/meta for Ultimate moved in this direction: painful and scary confirmed combos with a decent tilt towards the aggressive

[@headcrab4]

80% of the Ice Climbers meta is instilling a primal fear into your opponent. If you can open with a crazy ass desync zero to death, your opponent gets SO scared and panics in predictable ways!

[@nick69420lol]

This matchup should be called side B vs Up Air

[@ThatsNotEnglish]

Big D representing BC

[@MrChippuh]

Big D so smart to keep his back to Pandarian to bait attacks/grabs into Nana for a hard punish. then game 3 of reset he just goes full aggro

[@Sharpedo43]

I must say, it's quite refreshing to see Ice Climbers of all characters, in Grand Finals of a relatively big tournament. 😊

[@thomasheaden3376]

This commentary made this match so hype! Big D is the truth 🔥

[@DarkThomy]

Months ago, we saw the beginning of what looked like the rise of ice climbers via Big D... ...Now here we are x) Zero needs to talk about it ! World has to know !!

[@mitchellmariacher254]

Ice Climbers honestly are some of my favorite characters to watch.

[@BartlebyAndroid]

wow that was amazing to watch. BigD has mad skills and made ice climbers look insanely fun and terrifying. congrats man

[@betanick14]

I usually can't fully sit through these in one go but I was glued to the screen the entire time. This is one of those fights where you'll pay for the entire seat but you only use the edge!

[@robertocastro3310]

This was the first set i ever watched of ultimate and i find it super cool, now i have seen ultimate for a long time and i still find it hype

[@TheRedeyes222]

Probably the “coolest” finish I’ve seen.

[@squirtleislife1312]

Pandarian's ivysaur: I'm gonna side b Big D: no u

[@zanetischler4937]

The commentators not realizing Big D is playing with the switched skin made for a lot of confusion

[@KevSB07]

Zane Tischler they are fully aware of the skins. It’s just easier to always refer to the computer as Nana for consistency and to avoid confusion for the commentators or the viewers

[@dresean3725]

Yea. Pretty sure you were one of the very few ppl who were confused

[@smitte8208]

Big D gets a big Dsync

[@Smuggy97]

I really need to watch more of these. This was so intense

[@kaja3932]

Icies v. Pokemon Trainer is the matchup I didn't know I needed

[@grick7379]

Hey I just wanted to say that the commentary was really good in this set

[@brendanpryde5639]

Jake Thurston Thank youuu ❤️

[@magick_jim]

Big D the madman. Love his play with the climbers

[@innertuber4049]

I wish Big D didn't play the Nana alts, because it feels so weird to call Popo Nana and vice versa for me, but I know the commentators have to to avoid confusion.

[@tomwanders6022]

It took me like 3 matches to realize it too man. I was like wait am I just wrong or are the commentators using their names wrong. I guess it was me. :

[@golazo1266]

Big D, Murasate, Zemnsty, Dynax Ice Climbers putting in work

[@luansomething380]

If you don't know what to do: side b.

[@greatbanter5336]

The most entertaining set of ultimate so far!!!

[@ReConWolf10]

These commentator man. So much hype !

[@dazeo4393]

These commentators are just another example of why smash bros has some of the most engaging commentary in my opinion.

[@enderwiggins8248]

Before I thought two bad characters combined just meant combo food and now I see that with a big enough brain everything is possible

[@zenith_blade3299]

"DONT GRAB MAH GIRL! DON"T TOUCH HER" XD

[@dee6561]

An inspiration to all ICs

[@JusticeDoer85]

So much Big D hype in the chat but let’s not forget about Pandarian, out here at 15 years old almost taking tourneys off of grown men, not to mention he’s practically playing three characters at any time for one match up. Put some respect on the kids name!

[@thebleachbartender1312]

True. But the guy's pretty salty and a bit toxic, in some his matches he often taunts constantly, gets bodied for it then gets mad when it happens

[@chispychisp1690]

1) (das not Nana, das Popo *triggered* ) 2) MAJOR RESPECT FOR BIG D!! He mains my girl Nana •̀.̫•́✧

[@MasterofFates]

Imagine getting up smashed immediately because you grabbed your opponent from behind. ICs are scary af.

[@Pixygon]

Excellent set and commentary! Loved it.

[@worldsboss]

That commentary was immaculate. So much hype!

[@lizamanilla8722]

Wow those bayonetta combos are awesome! Some sick zero to deaths. Cant wait to see what she can do in the future. Oh wait I meant ice climbers

[@rich7103]

At least they're combos unlike wobbling

[@nftbot4906]

Big D putting in the WORK🔥

[@jaysonjaime3118]

Watching that Pokémon trainer adapt thru out the match was so epic

[@Adloquiem]

Ice Climbers reached the *Pinnacle*

[@DreamerADV]

This game is so sick

[@TyphonCH]

I would be humbled to be bodied by Big D's icies. They look like fun to play against

[@Nick-sd6fj]

9:05 I have never seen someone so brutally murder the ice climbers R.I.P ffffffffffffffff

[@enderwiggins8248]

The commentators screaming is 100% what I’m living for

[@mayauppstad9883]

I love that they have the same tag

[@douglasjay9561]

"Oh my god It Never STOPPPSS"

[@Marcus-ly5cu]

This is the definition of a big brain set

[@JACKSONDUNNETT]

really good commentary👌

[@rolisazul7144]

I think there are many mistakes about who is Nana and who is Popo about it. Due to the Ice Climbers appearance that Big D wears, Popo is now Nana and Nana is now Popo, we can figure this out because of the haircut.

[@Evixyn]

Ice climbers has now won a tournament in every smash game that they are introduced to :D

[@fernandoduarte950]

Must be a match between Big D. (Ice Climbers) vs Mkleo (Joker).

[@seanronayne3654]

7:23 hold up I need to fix my hair after that....

[@AGATH0R]

Yes people are saying ice climbers are bottom tier, but they look pretty good to me

[@2FadeMusic]

Big D makin them look top 15 ...

[@NinjaGamer820]

The only reason why ICs is considered low to bottom tier (at least in my opinion) is because Nana is just so fucking dumb lmao

[@alear18]

They are bottom tier because secondary IC is too inconsistent but Big D knows how to manage it

[@jonathangliniak9961]

They’re not bottom tier. I’ve been saying it since this games inception people are just dumb and delusional in this community. Most people don’t know how to play this character and subsequently suggest they’re feeble and useless. Wait until people start figuring this character out.

[@mehgamer467]

@@jonathangliniak9961 yup. They are low tier till some new tech is figured out lol. At best mid, but that's pushing it.

[@xtremewireless1802]

This game is so fun. I wish I understood smash better because I can see why everyone loves this game.

[@melonpan530]

Was about to watch this but there's 7 ads on it....

[@mastaowen5112]

23:20 The reason because Popo was grabbed instead of Nana was because Big D teched the landing and gain invincibilty, leaving only Popo exposed to Ivysaur's grab.

[@metalona1216]

I never want to verse this dude wtf

[@tkgrant7]

Not enough Big D puns in the comments

[@zenith2876]

Ice climber mains we will rise up and show the world to fear us in the smash community.

[@temoharri8848]

Pandarin...you did well. You brought mad respect to the Pokemon Trainer character. 😎👏👏👏👍

[@gg_sam7847]

Why does this video keep getting recommended to me over and over again

[@nathanlevesque7812]

18:00 lol wtf, it looks like icies footstooled themselves twice.

[@kidkoopa6389]

It was the King Kai shirt. No way you can lose wearing that - he went Kaio Ken to clutch win

[@JyroYT]

God damn, these commentators are so entertaining

[@brendanpryde5639]

Thank youuu ❤️

[@JyroYT]

@@brendanpryde5639 keep up the good work 👍

[@retierashia]

Finally, some good f*cking food.