YES! The Bible is Reliable. Here's Why.

[@pintswithaquinas]

Who wants a longer discussion with Dr Bergsma? What would you like us to discuss next time?

[@nathanp.claiborne8276]

Order some pizza and challenge him to beat Seamus' record

[@jake6132]

Penal substitution and how it behaves with St Thomas Aquinas's view of atonement.

[@glennlanham6309]

oh yeah stay with solid stuff like Steubenville teachers and forget ragging the biggest appariton in modern history

[@Tybourne1991]

Yes please! I eagerly look forward to your next discussion, especially delving into the fascinating areas where Catholics align with and diverge from the teachings of Scripture. There's so much to explore, and I can't wait to hear Dr Bergsma's insightful perspectives on the matter!

[@SurrenderNovena]

Continuing with what he ended today would be great!

[@zakkonieczka6811]

This is great. As someone who once believed that Jesus was a myth and the scriptures were a grand ancient conspiracy, learning about the reliability and authenticity of the gospels and the old testament was central to my conversion.

[@TheSulross]

let me introduce you to the myriad of youtube videos that summarize the latest science on the Shroud of Turin - where the most important point to get right off is that the carbon 12 dating has been scientifically soundly discredited (thanks to a victorious lawsuit against the British Museum of History that has kept an embargo on the raw data for several decades, and that has also now exposed a highly likely scandal perpetrated by the museum and other parties) All the other scientific evidence builds a super solid case that the shroud is the authentic burial shroud of Jesus of Nazareth. The scientific findings on the nature of the image in the shroud is such that we today do not possess the technology to replicate the effect of what would be required to cause such an image in the linen cloth But with modern technology, computer processing methods are able to generate high quality visuals of the appearance of Jesus. These are much superior than the the image we can directly perceive on the cloth because they use 3D topological information inherent in the image (comparable to satellite imagery of the Earth) where distortions can be corrected and proper 3D fidelity achieved. We have the physical evidence of the resurrection event and we can look upon the face of Jesus. We (our generation) are in close proximity to those that lived then and walked by His side in respect to having such access to these realities.

[@hankcicalese9693]

Bart Ehrman is very likely the top ATHEISTIC biblical scholar in the world right now. Meaning, he has a deep scholarly understanding of the bible the important biblical sources. Yet he remains an ATHEIST (someone who don't believe in the existence of God or that Jesus was God.) Here's what Dr. Erhman says about the idea of the person of Jesus being a myth: "The idea that Jesus did not exist is a modern notion. It has no ancient precedents. It was made up in the eighteenth century. One might as well call it a modern myth, the myth of the mythical Jesus". I've heard Dr. Ehrman otherwise state that if someone begins a theological analysis or argument that Jesus the person didn't exist, but was a myth, then you're wasting your time arguing with that person about important theological topics relating to Jesus (I'm paraphrasing.) Jesus is likely the most thoroughly documented person that has ever lived.

[@panes840]

​@hankcicalese9693 interesting, why does he remain an atheist ? Do you know? If yes, please share. 🙏

[@letsinvestigateit]

It is a myth the story of jesus is plagiarism of gods before his time that also resurrected after passing and making water to wine and being the virgin son etc etc. Yall just watch zeitgeist and you will see this is nonsense. They want you to worship jewish people as a god. I used to believe in this nonsense too before but I know now its just a story re written over and over again.

[@mariemorrison6278]

He and Dr Brant Pitre transfomed my Catholic understanding of the Bible.

[@lumenaperpetua]

Matt, you could interview Dr. Bergsma DAILY and no one would be upset about it. Just sayin. 😁

[@isabelgranados296]

Oh... I was hoping for a longer discussion... We definitely need him back in show🙏 He's such a good teacher.

[@TheSulross]

to be young again and attend a semester or two of lectures on the New Testament that dives into all this additional fine detail of the Gospels...

[@WafleEnterprises]

Every time I hear him in any format where he gets to delve deeply (so far just small clips or long form interviews) I learn something new that helps me contextualize scripture in such a profound way, and it truly makes me learn new lessons out of the same passages and chapters that I already thought I’d gleaned every point I could. It’s amazing just how deep our Lord’s written Word truly is, it just seems like it fits His characteristics of being true and just, and infinitely wise!

[@sw6155]

This needed to be a record 5h conversation… between kids, husband, house, full time job… I don’t have time sit down with a book anymore, but I can attentively listen to convos like this while doing chores and stuff…

[@EnjoyTheShoah]

You realize you can listen to audio books, too, right?

[@gabriela6584]

I wish this could have gone on for 3 hours! What a great conversation

[@jamesflynn4741]

Becoming 'skeptical of my skepticism' was a key feature of my transition from atheism to devotion

[@zairaa677]

Beautiful!

[@lbfather]

I feel like I catch myself every time I doubt with this kinda logic. I’ll think “this seems false/untrustworthy” and immediately go to the alternative and think how much more absurd that is

[@lbfather]

@weaponofchoice-tc7qs depends on the subject. It ranges from the nature and cause of the universe to the accounts of the gospel writers.

[@lbfather]

@weaponofchoice-tc7qs I don’t like to bet my odds on my life being finite, if that’s what you’re asking of me

[@spmcg_]

Dr. Pitre needs to be interviewed

[@thisisit2878]

He has been. He's been on Pints With Aquinas.

[@kellyvardakas2628]

This man changed my life! My favorite FUS professor ever. Holy, humble, brilliant. Such a witness!

[@ConnorPatrickNolan003]

Had him as a professor. One of the greatest men I’ve ever had the pleasure of knowing

[@glennlanham6309]

prayers, I will have my MATS in December, God willing...but I didn't have him, as I have previous Theology credits

[@TheDjcarter1966]

Study hard, I just got my MA in Theology from Franciscan...for the comps you need to pass 3 out of 4. I passed (3 out of 4) but ironically enough Bergsma failed me, I actually thought it was one of my better answers and really nailed the question. Thing is you don't get any feedback at all it's just pass fail so I'll never know why. I still really enjoyed his class and the opportunity to get a world class education online...Good Luck and God Bless.

[@glennlanham6309]

@@TheDjcarter1966 ouch. Well you passed. I placed out of all the classes I had in seminary so I will be studying solely from the videos for 8 of those classes

[@glennlanham6309]

@@TheDjcarter1966 Then it will be on to finding a job in the deep South solely in Catholicism!

[@zairaa677]

Awesome!

[@johnbrion4565]

Dr. Bergsma has helped me better understand the Catholic faith. His video on the genealogies of Jesus in the Gospels is the best on the topic that I’ve seen.

[@saraahb123]

Dr Bergsma is the great ever, I could listen to him forever!!

[@theguyver4934]

Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )

[@ignatiusjackson235]

I've just discovered him today, and I couldn't agree more! He's right up there with Brandt Pitre and Scott Hahn.

[@fabianapimentel6114]

I've been reading the Bible since i was 13 years old, now i am almost 50 and this book still amazes me and make me cry and you see everything different as you maturw and learn some about the culturw and language it was written. Just love it ❤

[@hopefulforhumanity5625]

"People want to want to love the Bible."😂 This is how I pray! "Lord help me to want to be sorry. Lord help me to want to be zealous for you!"

[@popebenedict7615]

That kind of phraseology is akin to The Litany of Humility. A beautiful way of acknowledging our abject deficiency.

[@DebraR35789]

Dr Bergsma along with Dr Hahn are the reason I came back home to the Catholic faith! Dr Bergsma is my favorite author/speaker on the faith! With Dr Pitre second on my list.

[@SurrenderNovena]

Wow, what a great lesson in the historical accuracy of the Bible. These FACTS are amazing! Thank you, Dr. Bergsma, for your clear, simple, and engaging teaching of what can be a dry, academic subject incomprehensible to us non-theologians and non-biblical scholars. Thank you, Matt, for all the great guests and talks you have! Yes, please have Dr. Bergsma back! In the Hearts of Jesus, Mary & Joseph ❤❤❤

[@rosiegirl2485]

Well said! ⚘️

[@thankfullyforgiven9611]

This was fascinating! I could have listened to this guy all day long! Thanks Matt for an excellent interview!

[@allisoncarley2964]

They say "You don't know what you don't know" and all videos I've seen with Dr. Bergsma help me realize that more and more. I have really enjoyed him since finding his conversion story online a few years ago. Please have him back regularly!! Also, his voice is very "listenable."

[@housecry]

I love Dr. Bergsma. I'd love for him to discuss the Old Testament with a Jewish Catholic who is well studied in the Torah.

[@JarekKrawczyk]

Why not the rabbi Tovia Singer!? He knows Torah and Tanakh indsie out.

[@housecry]

@@JarekKrawczyk I want to hear the perspective of a Jewish believer who accepts Yeshua, specifically a Catholic Jew. I know of a few, but I want to hear a dialogue with someone who loves Scripture like Dr. Bergsma and is of the same faith.

[@JarekKrawczyk]

@@housecry So on other words, you want to hear two people that can support each other's confirmation bias, so that it can reinforce your confirmation bias? Did I got it right?

[@johnbrion4565]

@@JarekKrawczykmost likely they want to listen to a Jewish Catholic to help them better understand the Jewish roots of their faith.

[@housecry]

​@@JarekKrawczykYou're assuming a lot. I've heard debates with Orthodox Jews before, including ones with Dr. Michael Brown, who I imagine knows the Tanakh better than Dr. Bergsma. Dr. Brown is not a Catholic Jew as I'm sure you know. I've heard Messianic and Protestant Jews. I want to hear a Catholic Jewish perspective with someone who knows the Hebrew Scriptures. I made it clear in my first reply, one who "accepts" Yeshua.

[@grantstevens8099]

An hour and 12 minutes? You know that's not long enough, Matt! Great discussion.

[@FrJames-ro4de]

Absolutely fantastic content!!! Bring back Bergsma for more!

[@cristiancaiola9588]

I was just thinking last week how I was hoping Dr. Bergsma would be on soon. I would LOVE to see some sort of round table of 'bible dudes' just talking about anything and everything.

[@jessya.955]

'Bible dudes"😄

[@laurants]

The entire discussion is great. But the beginning about watching non-religious stuff, I don't apologize for that. I think it is good to get away from the stress of always being reminded that either something is wrong in the world or that you are not yet a good enough Catholic. Sometimes I just need to rest and be entertained.

[@Psyrus88]

I had the honor of taking Dr. Bergsma's "Faith and Reason" course in 2014. A great professor, and a holy man.

[@AmberFaganello]

Yes! More videos with Dr. Bergsma!

[@angrypotato_fz]

Very cool! I wish it was longer :) It's interesting to listen to Dr. Bergsma go into details of the Bible fragments.

[@josephdiaz339]

My goodness, this man is brilliant and awesomely blessed. What a gift to humanity from the Lord Jesus. So much good in this video. God bless Dr. Bergsma and thank you for this treasure of truth! ❤

[@bethanyrose2023]

Emmaus Academy is the perfect course for me. Since I have come to know the Truth. I have been hungry to learn about the Catholic faith, the faith I took for granted. I was doing my last module in Psychology, and I got distracted because I was spending more time watching Catholic Apologetics on KZbin. I have been seriously thinking about abandoning my plan to pursue a career in Psychology and studying Theology instead or merging the two. I am praying for God's guidance and direction.

[@timobrien72]

This is exactly what i needed and will continue to need my Faith if fragile this sort of conversation strengtheneds it

[@gracielaprovost6072]

I never comment but this was amazing!! Please more!!! God bless the work you are doing!! 🙏🏼

[@dipaschall]

I love his countenance, so calm and easy to listen to….

[@danacasey8266]

I am 3 classes shy of my theology master and u learned so much from this. It has been the little details in the gospel stories that made them ring true for me.

[@gethimrock]

Please bring Dr Bergsma back he’s great

[@katiem3184]

So much love for Dr. Bergsma!!

[@ianmiller4195]

Seeing all the books on the table I can tell this will be a good episode!

[@m.d.d.k.7136]

Awesome! Great interview!

[@josephinetracy1485]

A Christian is a person that comes in 5th in a race, but declares themself "the winner" because some old desert scroll says that "five" actually translates as "One." The Bible is an astounding eclectic work. Even the story of Eve and the Snake was plagiarized directly from an old Sumerian legend.

[@rachelbutler7658]

I always go into these discussions with a bit of hesitancy, maybe distrust? But, I am rarely disappointed. Great bits of encouragement and fascinating points are always discovered!! 👏 Thank you for keeping it so pleasant, real and inspiring. Good job, fellows!!! 🎉

[@davidorozco6918]

What a show!!! Great show!!!!

[@realjoanna]

Doing a Bible study using Brant Pitre's "Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist." WOW. Everyone should read it!

[@anneinohio8232]

With all due respect, Matt…I think the reason people are most skeptical of the Bible, is the simple fact that those who read and accept the Bible as true means that they must change their lives to conform to the book. We must acknowledge God as Father and Jesus as the Son and Savior.

[@nico0826]

You should get Brant Pitre and Edward Feser on the show

[@Bungadin2845]

Always a joy listening to John Bergasma.

[@Tybourne1991]

Wow, what a captivating discussion! I must say, it was one of the most thought-provoking and insightful conversations I've come across. The evidence that St. Matthew's Gospel was written prior to the Temple's destruction adds an extra layer of awe to Our Lord's prophetic words in the 24th chapter. It's truly remarkable! I eagerly look forward to your next discussion, especially digging into the fascinating areas where Catholics align with and diverge from the teachings of Scripture. There's so much to explore, and I can't wait to hear Dr Bergsma's insightful perspectives on the matter!

[@rickfilmmaker3934]

Absolutely excellent. Dr.Bergsma is top notch.

[@ChristLovesu-dp9ub]

Beautiful work.Thank you Holy Spirit .

[@briancollins515]

This is the content that I scour KZbin endlessly for!!

[@elizabethdale8566]

What an excellent show. Thank you.

[@FreedomandBaconHomestead]

Great info! Been an active Catholic my whole life but still learned a lot. Thank you and God bless!

[@Sitzenleben]

Now we support this man and his work by buying his books. Read catholics read

[@sethcasavant9572]

When I was in the navy we ported in haifa and got to do a via del la rosa tour (I know I spelled that wrong) and it was amazing! We went to the garden, church of holy sepulcher, and many more sites. Highlight of my first deployment!

[@dawnoliver2015]

Oh this podcast has me soooo excited to hear Dr Bergsma share these unbelievable gold nuggets. Thank you so much!! Feel like going to shout it from the rooftops!!

[@aci.]

Oh wow. An hour and 12 minutes just flew by. Such a treat to have Dr. Bergsma on PwA. Thank you!

[@saintamata1841]

That was so excellent, thanks Matt! ❤

[@mikederp9612]

Can we get a historical expert on the history of holidays and how they are in fact early Christian. Such as Christmas early Christians and authors such as Sextus Africanus talking on Jesus's birthday on December 25th before Saturnalia was even created. I would like to a see a comprehensive list of facts for when everyone posts around Christmas how its pagan.

[@quiricomazarin476]

Everyone = like nut bar protestant heretics ect.... goaded by Satan without a true education & can't logically think as they are brainwashed.

[@shlamallama6433]

You should have Dr. Bergsma come on to do a show about the book of the New Testament that he knows the most about. Or maybe that plus the Old Testament.

[@ngaoakirirua3756]

Thanks brothers in Christ for the sharing God is Good forever hallelujah 👏 AMEN 🙏

[@rockanne]

I'm so glad he mentioned Michael Barber. You should interview Michael Barber. I'd actually love a round table with several of these people. I love watching Jesus nerds geek out together. 😂

[@nicholassmith3899]

I checked the times at 42 minutes, and was totally disappointed that it was going to be over soon. You mist have this man back on.

[@rae-michellel6878]

Love Dr. Bergsma!!!

[@Frst2nxt]

John Mark and Barnabas were Levites, and the Acts of Barnabas say Mark had been a Priest of YHWH, and Priests wore a single linen robe to serve in the Temple, and it was Passover. This all fits together well. Barnabas' Epistle reflects having access to many Priestly Writings. The sons of Light were the Pharisees, whose religion JESUS told HIS disciples to follow till the new Covenant, and the sons of darkness were the falsely socalled Saducees, who disbelieve much of the truth.

[@PatMcAnn]

The Daily Exegesis on hallow by Logical Bible is amazing! I truly look forward to it every day, so much so that I also support him in patreon now. And this show is equally a gift!!

[@gailpessoa6934]

Please have Dr. Bergsma back ASAP. 😀

[@bradleytarr2482]

I love Pocket Editions of Bibles. Apparently so did the Apostles and their immediate successors.

[@robbycooke]

Great info! Thanks!

[@hfritz82]

Please do more of this!

[@dianedavis1676]

Awesome! More, please!

[@mariachacin557]

What a great episode. Really enjoyed it.

[@shellbackbeau7021]

This was an excellent discussion to listen to. Very edifying! Thankyou!

[@andrewrahn5908]

Emmaus academy by the grace of God, fits the bill in Christ.

[@teresastockdale9159]

Im not Catholic but I listen,learn and look up much of Dr. B’s teaching.

[@richarddouglas8015]

Am hearing you with christ at my side

[@familysim2905]

We converted to Catholicism at the Easter Vigil. I have a question. The original documents and manuscripts spoken of in this episode, where are they housed? Are they kept by the Vatican? I’m incredibly curious as to whether the average person would be able to view them. Thank you and God bless.

[@crusaderACR]

There are tens of thousands. They're all over the world, wikipedia has an article listing most of them (each with a picture attached!) under the title "List of New Testament Papyri" and "List of New Testament uncials"

[@familysim2905]

@@crusaderACR Thank you! I’m going to look it up. So fascinating!!

[@MrSeedi76]

​@weaponofchoice-tc7qssome scholars date P66 to 200 or even earlier. So it's not that far after the gospel of John was probably written if one would agree with the dating at around 100 CE. Might even just be a copy of the autograph or maybe only one or two copies removed. Be that as it may, the textual evidence for the new testament is the best of any ancient document out there.

[@quiricomazarin476]

​​@@MrSeedi76100 ANNO DOMINE = year of our LORD. Some may mix or abuse Christian Era with Commen Era... Always was A.D.

[@robmessenger6895]

Ben Shapero pitch : "Ben ... Jesus was a Jewish man of good breeding and education - who promised he would die and rise from the dead. Modern forensic evidence (Shroud of Turin etc) now justifies and proves beyond any doubt the Gospels' accounts of Jesus's death and resurrection. Are you going to believe the word of a Jewish man who did good and rose from the dead?"

[@anneinohio8232]

When you study Roman culture, there are some interesting things you discover. For instance, the Roman Senate would allow private ‘Tax Farming’ companies to bid on the collection of taxes in the empire. In the case of tax collecting, the company with the HIGHEST bid would get the contract. How did these companies turn a profit? By collecting over the amount promised to Rome. There was no set tax rate, as we have today. That’s why tax collectors were so hated by the ancient world. They could confiscate what they wanted. Jesus’ call to Matthew to become a follower was indeed radical. It must have been pretty awkward when Matthew joined the group, and a tough thing for the other apostles to welcome Matthew.

[@tomaszdrgas8811]

Let be Sapiro on his way.. Not listening to him often but every time I have heard him sounds like truth.. We should worry more about disbelievers converting rather then stilling believers from each others..

[@hiriasbloodweaver8593]

1:09:00 I disagree. Not only is Judaism (in its modern form) based on the Talmud, which was finished only in the 3rd century, much later than christianity, but modern Judaism (NOT to be confused with hebrew or israelites in general), stems from the pharisees which Jesus openly rebuked as Satanists and enemies of god. Saying that Judaism is true because it stems from the same hebrew roots as christianity before the pharisees corrupted it is like saying look everyone was once an innocent child, so your crimes later don't matter. This is simply nonsense. Dr. Bergsma is an educated and well-spoken person who generally presents solid arguments and I respect him, but on this specific issue, he is just wrong.

[@nickaugurusa752]

Excellent discussion and learning so much.

[@spinninginspace]

It wouldve been so sweet if the chosen had cast John as a young kid ie. visibly younger than Peter and the men

[@TheDjcarter1966]

True every scholar has John as a young teenager

[@panninggazz5244]

what a silly goose. he loves this stuff

[@Official-LifeCompass]

Absolutely fantastic content!

[@CatholicPipes]

I remember his old testament course. Wonderful class loved the assignments

[@TheShard1771]

One of my favorite episodes! Amazing stuff!

[@dartharpy9404]

Great conversation

[@DB0310]

This is so important for us all to know.

[@77agape]

nice chat here !

[@williamreymond2669]

19:25 Dr,. Bergsma] "Why is there so much pressure placed on the New Testament, why is there such a high bar that people want to place on the Bible..." The answer is very simple. If the Bible is true and authoritative you *must* radically alter your life and lifestyle. People, even most Christians, really do not want to have do that. I feel the full weight of the words I just typed, it ain't easy what God demands of us.

[@JiII_S]

Incredibly interesting discussion!

[@ThePianoFortePlayer]

Thanks for this

[@shaneblackwoodGodbless]

Really enjoyed these

[@annakimborahpa]

For Ben Shapiro who is an Orthodox Jew, I would recommend: (1) the Gospel of Matthew that was originally written for Jews in their own dialect to demonstrate that Jesus is the fulfillment of the Hebrew prophets (2) the Letter to the Hebrews that was written for Jews to demonstrate that Jesus is the fulfillment of an earlier priesthood than the Levitical, that of Melchizedek

[@carmeister_]

🔥 his comments on Johns Gospel 🤯🔥 also why was this so short lol

[@LUMEStockTrading]

The last 4 minutes is the best part wow

[@frjer11]

I hold that the skeptic is simply the gullible turned inside out. One believes anything, the other disbelieves anything. Both are indifferent to proof.

[@hglundahl]

14:27 I hadn't heard of the 750 AD manuscript yet!

[@oswaldomaldonado1051]

This was Amazing!

[@edcorrigan3156]

"Skepticism is the chastity of intellect" - skepticism aided my conversion to Catholicism.

[@williamreymond2669]

25:20 Dr. Bergsma] "It's a kind of an act of humility that he pencils himself into his own painting." It was John-Mark's signature - a cameo. Authors do this all the time, not just in the Scriptures.

[@xthinker88]

Yes. But a very humble one because it is not a very flattering incident.

[@williamreymond2669]

@@xthinker88 Yes, maybe, but a formative one. I would also add that Mark was actually there, he could have been a lot of other places. At Gethsemane, all of the apostles failed. Is Christianity invalid because *all* of the apostles failed at the crucial moment? I think, no, rather the opposite, despite the naked fact that we all always fail at the crucial moment God always prevails.

[@michaelpaul6345]

I don’t think all the skepticism or criticism of the authenticity of the Bible is just because it has miracles. It’s because, if it’s true, we have to do something about it, whereas we don’t have to do anything about the Gallic Wars or Plato’s Republic if they’re authentic.

[@ryanvartman]

I wish someone like Bergsma would address the work of John Allegro and talk more about the dead sea scrolls. I am so sick of hearing about it on Rogan.

[@nathanp.claiborne8276]

What does John Allegro say?

[@apubakeralpuffdaddy392]

And debate Kipp Davies, too.