Pioneer CLDD502 Laserdisc totally dead. Another spring clean up cast away

[@markpirateuk]

One open cap & it's fixed, I picked up a 42" Samsung plasma, same problem, 1 cap replaced & has been working perfectly for over 8 years now! I always love an easy fix.

[@danielgumm421]

I'm always pleased to see these kind of videos. Great find Dave. Truth be told, I'm looking for a laserdisc Player.

[@12voltvids]

Enjoying the free disk right now. Recorded it to DVD, ripped the mpg file from the disk and put it in an SD card in my media player. Watching it now. Great video album. Kitaro the light of the spirit.

[@nickwallette6201]

Always nice to see a piece of 80s/90s AV tech brought back to life. I hope people keep riding these things until the wheels fall off. To me, it's a golden era. Still had metal chassis, and reasonably solid build quality, which both vaporized shortly after this period; but new-ish features and better signal integrity than the even-older stuff. It's just right.

[@donadams7469]

Thank you so much! I have the exact same model, I remember fixing the flip mechanism, but the sticking draw mechanism has been plaguing me for eons it will be nice to load an LD now without having to constantly fight the front door to open!

[@teacfan1080]

You scored well this year for cleanup week. People often say "There's cash in that junk". Yes there is...literally! That disk would be a great watch after coming home from a hard day at work. Perfect for unwinding.

[@rolandream]

I just fixed my cld d750 with your help. the gears that operate the tray are in the same place and it had the exact same problem. thanks so much I have been scratching my head on how to open the drawer without breaking it for months.

[@1607trojan]

Great video. I just got a free pioneer CLD-2710k that was told it just stopped turning ON, now I at least have a good starting point.

[@robertbeatty8241]

I am going to tackle my Pioneer 99 Elite Laser Disc Player. I have a backup CLd1030 but the other one is Elite. I bought it on Ebay. Quick heads up The labels on discs are coming off, perhaps due to heat and aging. So labels getting stuck in players will occur. Preempt that by replacing the glue on the label. Now I don't have electrical knowledge but I can tinker. Time will tell. Thanks for this video.

[@Jammerk40]

Nice find Dave! Cool Laser disc also! One Cap and that's it wonderful job!

[@zx8401ztv]

Well that was a easy and cheap fix :-D The cooked pcb was no supprise, people leave equipment on for years. A frend had a t.v that was in standby for years, but the expensive active speakers did not switch off. Well cooked :)

[@nickwallette6201]

Man, those cheap phenolic PCBs aren't getting any younger, either. I had one player with a cracked board, so I used one from a parts unit. Also cracked. That one took out a motor in service mode because the self-check doesn't shut it down immediately, and the lack of one of the power rails caused the motor driver to slam it hard into a mechanical end-stop until the coil went open-circuit.

[@MovieGuy846]

Always love seeing another LD player saved from the trash bin. Been doing the same for years now; 18 players & counting and working to fix / maintain them all if possible.

[@12voltvids]

And I thought i was bad with 5 or 6 of them.

[@MovieGuy846]

@@12voltvids My wife isn't exactly happy about it either but she knows it's cheaper than cars. I'm also working to AC3 mod all of them as a fun project; I'm about half way there now :).

[@Laserdiscrepair]

@@MovieGuy846 Let me know if you need any pre-fabbed boards. I made some of my own on custom PCB boards.

[@MovieGuy846]

@@Laserdiscrepair Hi Patrick. Thanks for the offer (I think I saw your boards on eBay; nicely done 👍🏻🙂). Anyway, I actually have been making my own from scratch the last few years after my supply ran dry on the BDE boards. So I am good at the moment but I may try your board in the future when I have to deal with a player with little clearance inside.

[@OficinaSRMK-2]

Hello friends, how are you! I have a Pioneer Cld 3070 Laserdisc. The drawer opened off, and left the point. Thanks for any tips mate. Thank you very much!

[@billhennigan3773]

Hi Dave..I have over 500 discs and (4) machines ..All are Pioneer's...2 elite"S 502 and 504..I clean and enjoy the machines rhru my 150" optoma uhd65 screen,,Not great picture compared to new 4k movies, but definately enjoyable..Great video's from You and very informative..

[@12voltvids]

There were many movies, and concerts released on LD that were never released on any other formats. I have a few hundred disks and too many players.

[@flippers49]

Excellent piece of machinery working again. Myself picked up a sony camcorder yesterday. TR648...for ZAR15..about $1 from the hospice shop. No power supply or battery so they could not test it... but with 11 brand new tapes still sealed. One tape used with 10 minutes of footage. Think thats about what this camcorder was used for. Excellent working condition and looks still brand new. Nice to keep stuff going for future generations to see what our generation was capable of.

[@LucasGShumway]

Awesome video like always. I recently battled a couple Pioneer LD players. Got 1 fully working, the other still needs some work lol but watching your videos I always learn something. Hope to see more LD content :)

[@coptertim]

This was the second laser player we owned. With fantastic image and audio quality, it was amazing. Funny to think stopping half way through to automatically switch to the B side was state of the art. We loved it.

[@Barbarapape]

As i have said before Dave, i am a laserdisc nut with a very large collection of discs and players. As soon as i see any on the auction websites i try to buy them if the price is right. The main problem are the lasers, new ones if you can find them are now so old that many no longer work and cost crazy money. I am fortunate to have the gear and test discs to re-align the players, this is critical to obtaining a good performance. The lack of working players will in time kill off the format, for now we can still enjoy the vast selection of films and music that were available, at the time it pushed the technology to it's limits making it too expensive for the mass markets, only the USA and Japan enjoyed the best players and discs.

[@shaneanagrams]

Laserdisc nut? I like this guy. Ever have a laser jam when flipping to the second side? Happens occasionally with my CLD-D504.

[@12voltvids]

I am in the process of backing up my ld onto DVD.

[@MovieGuy846]

@@shaneanagrams You most likely need a new loading belt.

[@nickwallette6201]

@@shaneanagrams Supposedly, this is what happened to one of the players I got as "parts or not working." Seller said they went to play side B and it made some sad noises and stopped working. I dunno. It took more than clearing a jam to get it working again, so I suspect they tried "fixing" it first. ;-) I haven't had any loading issues since, once I got it adjusted well enough to be functional again, but it's still new to me and I haven't used it much yet.

[@catsbyondrepair]

@@12voltvids wouldn't Blu-rays be better

[@wblynch]

My old top loader Pioneer LD player has been up in the attic for at least 25 years. Wonder if it still works. Time to dig it out and find out.

[@crashbandicoot4everr]

That power supply looks familiar. Looks like it uses an STR-type IC for the oscillator just like the SMPSes of Panasonic G deck VCRs. The 1uF cap fails on those as well and causes the unit not to start up.

[@mrjsv4935]

Good find, just one little capacitor and it works again :) Kitaro always brings the early 80's Silk Road tv-series in my mind, very memorable theme song in it, and the background music as well.

[@SuperAgentman007]

I have A elite series laser disk player I had the same issue when I got it no power every time you replace the fuse it was short out it wound up being one of the transformers on it that had a dead short. After replacing that it works perfect now.

[@simtitan1]

I wish my town had a day where everybody got rid of their unwanted stuff. I'd have a field day finding things.

[@jojowilson2868]

I have a Panasonic LX-H670 and Panasonic LX-900. My Panasonic LX-900 plays all laserdiscs flawlessly for the most part with the excpetion of rotted discs obviously and my Panasonic LX-H670 struggles with slightly warped discs causing video and audio distortions. Also if I fast forward for too long on my Panasonic LX-H670 it will sometimes reset the laserdisc from the start. Is this because my Panasonic LX-H670 is not properly aligned and if that's the case is there anything I can do to fix the alignment on it or am I screwed? It's a backup player anyways since the LX-900 is superior to it. My LX-900 is the 1995 revision so it doesn't have the black, gray, and white issues. The only problem with the LX-900 is that it cuts off part of the right side of the screen. Even with that defect many people consider the LX-900 Panasonic's high end player. I couldn't argue with them because the picture is a little bit better on it compared to the LX-H670 and it reads warped discs better since I don't really have any video or audio distortions on the same discs that the LX-H670 reads poorly. I have a big laserdisc collection with over 100 laserdiscs so it's not shocking I have some slightly warped discs or whatever issues are causing the LX-H670 to freak out whether it's warped or maybe too many scratches. Whatever the case is my LX-900 reads the discs better.

[@Hounddoggy33]

Your wife laughed, then went shopping with the cash. Nice find!

[@Capturing-Memories]

I love Kitaro's instrumentals, Very soothing.

[@12voltvids]

You would like this video. It is excellent.

[@setiajie82]

I also have a power supply problem, I checked it, still produce voltage out. So i jump the PS_ON pin to make the unit power on.

[@cyo_corner]

I changed all secondary caps and then reassembling this back into the LD player, I have no standby light. I put the 6 wire cable back into the connector wrong and misaligned all the pins. But now the LD player won't turn on and has no standby light. Do you think it's also octocoupler or 1uf capacitor (I never changed it)?

[@kbobdonahue1966]

My parents had a Pioneer Laser Disc player that also included a 5-disc player.

[@3Cr15w311]

I have the model up from this one, the 702 that would do stills on all discs. I had the 909 as well that could play DVDs. I had a 501 back in 1992. I haven't powered up the 702 or 909 in 3 years and I should definitely do that to keep belts and such in good shape.

[@12voltvids]

I have the one that plays DVD as well and a Panasonic, Yamaha, a karaoke and another old pioneer i believe a cld430. So 6 i think. I should drag out the DVD playing unit and see if it even works. Hasn't been used in awhile.

[@bernardharquail9405]

ya buddy hope you can get it to work again,cool thanks.

[@MrJDNJ]

I've got a Pioneer CLD-D605, which plays CDs and has a karaoke function, too. There is a slight background 60 hz hum, though, wondering if it's power supply caps, or if that's normal for this format. I only have 10 discs or so, but the main reason was to get the disc (1983?) of Star Wars, which is supposed to be the closest unedited version to the original theatrical release. It's fun looking thru the thrift store bins for obscure titles....and I found a bunch of EMI classical music/orchestra stuff which is really nice to experience.

[@12voltvids]

These use switching power supply so no 60hz hum. What you have is a ground loop.

[@SergZak2023]

Great video, Dave. Thanks

[@EastAngliaUK]

I have never seen a player like this where I live other than on youtube

[@Quietruck]

I have that exact model, but for some reason when I put a disk in and hit play, the display says play the goes away then nothing happens, and the disk fails to turn. is the motor dead ?

[@dennisw8263]

If it's a Pioneer player, the pickup moves to the inside, then tries to focus on the disc. If laser doesn't focus, it should display "No Disc". Only after focus OK does the spindle motor start. I was a tech for Pioneer from 1981 - 2003. Just looked and I have a 8 in test disc and a Michael Nesmith "Elephant Parts" disc.

[@hoffmannolsen]

Why is the power soldered? Normally it’s plugged. Never seen before. Maybe in older equipment?

[@Ragnar8504]

Might be a price thing. I've seen quite a few cheap DVD players with hard-wired mains leads. They often do have a connector inside though rather than being soldered onto the power supply PCB so it might be an age thing too.

[@robertsneddon731]

My guess is that there was a previous attempt to repair the PSU. It's possible that the original plug got damaged or melted and the simple fix was to remove the plug and just solder the mains wires in place. Equipment that old has usually been through the workshop a couple of times by now.

[@crashbandicoot4everr]

It's mostly always soldered in old machines. I've seen it many times with VCR power supplies.

[@12voltvids]

Plugs are just another point of failure.

[@norbkowa]

I still love Laserdiscs. Other day i actually watched Aliens special edition on Laserdisc even though i own anniversary editions on blu ray but there is something about Laserdisc that feels special. Some older movies when in HD you can see too much of things you shouldn't see and some CGI looks bad in HD while in SD looks good.

[@focus82grothm.84]

Very nice score, 2 in 1 😃💿👍

[@705johnnyboy]

always a bonus when theres a free disc weather its a cd or a laserdisc inside a find ..

[@JoCrane]

Had my laser for 9 years help how to check it CD-CDL LP- 1999

[@bigbro5793]

Nice), I have several CDs of Kitaro, Light of the Spirit as well. The music is awsome. You got some rich folks there, throwing LD players with disks inside)

[@12voltvids]

Lots of rich people out this way. You won't find many homes selling for under 2 million.

[@andymouse]

Sounds like Pink Floyd "Wish You Were Here"...cheers.

[@gavincurtis]

This episode’s motivational poster: *B O O T S T R A P*

[@setiajie82]

I also have this one, inside the unit very similar, not working because bad mechanic and maybe bad optical block.

[@rmx77]

I have the same one but mine has a different power issue. when first plugged in it stays on standby for bout 15 minutes then looses all power. works otherwise. paid bout oh 5 bucks for it

[@12voltvids]

Check the connections on the drive ic. Also this boot cap if it went leaky could shut it down.

[@rmx77]

@@12voltvids will do that

[@guitarfreak521]

Boy, have things changed. Now, everybody wants a laserdisc player.

[@12voltvids]

Really?

[@guitarfreak521]

@@12voltvids Yes, the last player I had that I was selling it wasn't even working right and I had several offers for it. And some of these players now are going for a couple hundred US dollars each.

[@12voltvids]

I just sold one that had been listed for 6 months. Got no bites on any platforms. Put it on eBay got nothing. Finally got 20 bucks for it. Paid more than that in eBay fees for the listings that went nowhere.

[@guitarfreak521]

@@12voltvids I had a player with some playback issues with about 30 movies And I had it on Facebook for about 6 days and I sold it for $160 US dollars. The movies were fairly common ones too. And the buyer was very very odd too. Even though I had pictures and videos of it working, they still insisted on testing it in person. Why, I'm not sure. But he was one of many people that was interested in it and he was just the first one to actually show up with the money. I probably could have gotten more money for it, but since I was leaving the country and wasn't going to be back for a while I was selling it in a hurry. And this was just this past summer.

[@12voltvids]

​@@guitarfreak521the one I sold was the Yamaha i serviced on my channel. 20 bucks no movies.

[@marka1986]

New clip leads need to be checked too. Most are just sort of crimped. Best to solder before even using.

[@MrChrisRP]

Awesome!!!

[@supunthalangama3426]

How do you Reading scematics incredible

[@kyoudaiken]

Sometimes it's just something as simple as a startup capacitor that kills a whole device. And getting to it is often a pain in the butt.

[@Bluethunderboom]

I used to copy soundtracks from the CD to my MP3 and/or other devices but not from DVD because I really don't know how to get it copied to my phone including the MPEG from DVD. And yeah, LD is totally impossible to copy the video from the disc and save to the HDD because, it is pure analog format, and it is like same thing as to archive the tapes from Betamax, VHS, U-matic, etc etc, because it is extremely very important to archive the videos before it will be disintegrate for good and can no longer be viewable at all.

[@EastAngliaUK]

DVD looks good on tvs up to 40 inch I find.

[@theotherchannel2279]

26:00 Now you need to go back to the houses you bought that stuff from and buy more stuff. Just check for missing screws!

[@jameskrivitsky9715]

Nice job Dave. Out of curiosity, do you have a couple of those YELLOW SPUDGERS that most of us telco techs have lying around ? I find mine get used on a regular basis. They may help getting those small multi-pin connectors off and on...much handier than our older fingertips. Watch out for any Easter bunnies hiding colored eggs in your disc players. Ride safe buddy. JwgK

[@12voltvids]

I have some of the red spudder probes.

[@markmarkofkane8167]

Interesting!

[@johnwakefield3141]

Are you canadian by any chance?

[@12voltvids]

Yo

[@maiconvengrzennunesbusolog4864]

👏👏

[@Lackooo84]

How can you work in a mess like this?? Clean your desk omg...

[@12voltvids]

You have obviously never set foot in a busy repair shop. I have been in many and every last one looks like a disaster. The only clean ones I have seen was when we moved to a new location and it stayed that way for about a week. You are not earning when you are cleaning and all the shops paid their technicians piece work. So cleaning between jobs was not high priority. Do I look like a fucking maid. No. And that was the attitude of every tech I knew and I knew them all back in the day. If it was slow and there was nothing going on perhaps the bench would get a sweep but then again if it was slow 9 tones out of 10 the guys would just leave early because we were not being paid to stand around with our thumb up our ass and certainly were not being paid to push a broom. My attitude at my home shop isn't any different. If I have nothing to do in the shop I am not in the shop. About once a month I take a bunch of crap to recycling and clean up some stuff but it gets cluttered with the next repair. Only shops opener saw clean were the ones that were not busy. A shop opened across the street and it was spotless only because he had to work and closed his doors within 2 months of opening. Just could not compete with the shop I worked for.

[@Lackooo84]

@@12voltvids Well... I seen not only one but several ones. And a lot of messy ones ofc. You can find many other channels on yt with a percectly clean and tidy shops. Your one is a disaster for my eyes, I don't even understand how can you find anything (parts & tools) in there. There is a pile of junk, you have not enough space on the desk even for the device you working on. :) I'm not telling that you are not doing you job well, but this mess around you is horrible for me, and if I'm a customer I don't want my clean device to put on a dirty desk like that. I hope you understand what I'm wanna tell you.

[@markae0]

It is a ambiguous statement "You can't have too many laser disk players." It is like saying you can't have too much water in a nuclear power plant. Which way does it mean? over filled or under filled? LOL

[@FindLiberty]

Nice!

[@billmcdonald2436]

I would like to have a laserdisc player

[@12voltvids]

They are out there. People are almost paying others to take them and the load of disks they acquired away. I was given a player and about 100 movies. I will likely give away my collection too. The disks i really want to keep will be put on DVD and then they will all go.

[@markae0]

13:36 RE: The found stash of money (who today wants a VCR?) I thought it was real, then because April1st a joke. Now you say it is real. LOL

[@12voltvids]

It was real. 100% real cash.

[@nickwallette6201]

You know, I keep hearing the line repeated that Pioneer players are so great, and Sony players are such junk, because everyone but Pioneer has complicated mechanisms that are prone to failure and hard to work on and no spare parts, etc. Well, after having worked on a Sony (MDP-600) and a Kenwood (where my particular model, LVD-820R, is either OEM'd by Pioneer or Panasonic, depending on which forum post is to be believed), the Sony was dead simple, mechanically. It was immediately obvious how to move the tray. Everything could be removed fairly easily, and reinstalled fairly easily. The complete main board could be swiveled up to access both sides of it while the player is running. My ONLY complaint is that the optical sled and tilt motors both used worm drive gears on the motors, making them impossible to move without being driven, and the motor terminals are basically impossible to get to in-situ. The only other option is tiny pin-pitch on the ribbon cables that connect them. The 820R was way more fussy, and I still don't know how you're supposed to adjust the tilt screw on the laser module while it's playing side A of the disc. There's no access from underneath. I'm thinking about drilling a hole in the chassis to gain access to it, so I can finally tune it up. But even getting a probe on the servo PCB is tough. They provided 0R resistors to clamp onto, but they're wedged between the transport mechanism and the back panel. I also dunno how I would've put the tray back in correctly if I didn't have the service manual. No still-frame pause on CAV either - at least without the remote, which I haven't been able to find yet.

[@michaelblack5011]

is like DVD MPEG 2 quality

[@12voltvids]

This is analog video at its finest.

[@JoCrane]

Lightning strikes power strip my laser blows fuse

[@TurntableGuy]

One man's junk...