Pippa talks about nepotism

[@-hello6177]

Reddittor: Mentions privilege Pippa: Do not cite the deep magic to me witch. I was there when it was written

[@DeSpaceFairy]

I can agree that nepotism isn't a problem when it come to mundane things likes family businesses or inconsequential likes Vtubers and often hear jokes about democracy being feudalism with extra steps, but when it's systemic in civic institutions and basic services with the people "working" into them LARPing as some sort of little bourgeoisie or discount aristocracy, nothing works and your life can become miserable if you are not "friend" with some of them.

[@Kareszkoma]

This! Exactly. Gate keeping. Using money to buy out land and forcing people to pay extortionate prices, take out debts, or even owning the institute which loans, or doing the loaning themselves. Getting better jobs, higher positions, or being able to get an education, advancing on a field, only if you have 'friends', or do something to those 'friend'-s. Or just simply buying the distributional networks, purchasing out the food in bulk, and than selling it back to extortionate prices. Using the amassed wealth to centralize everything and lead that right through the person of wealth. Gatekeeping. So many disgusting examples. From industrial revolution, slave trade, till Hollywood.

[@Necroskull388]

Yeah, as someone who's been driven to despair by the job market multiple times, nepotism is a big hedgehog in my prostate for me. I already have to fill out 200+ resumes to finally get one job offer, and knowing that a lot of those job postings were fake in the first place because the employer just had to make it LOOK LIKE the job was open to the most qualified applicant when some executive was always going to fill it with their inbred dipshit kid.

[@jerm70]

The problem that has occurred and will continue to occur is that the liberal society is not viable. A meritocracy is always doomed to fail because humans don't work on pure logic and there is no loyalty to a system or some higher authority. Nepotism is just the logical, viable, and sensible way to run a business. Everyone is invested in it and personally gains from it prospering unlike businesses nowadays where all the top dogs are invested in destroying the business for self-gain.

[@DeSpaceFairy]

@@jerm70 I would argue it's no better and heavily depend on the scale, it's okayish on something not reaching further that a local community, it can help to smooth things up, but as a systemic feature at wider scale it's at best a breeding ground for funny stuff like complacency, malicious compliance and nesting for corruption, at its worst that a bloated rotting carcass were social mobility is gate-kept by few at the top with theirs cohort sycophant and underlings dog-piling on one another, little incentive for cooperation towards any betterment, every action become subject to some kind of baksheesh or coercion, everyone as a ghetto/prison mentality, gotta be as far away from the bottom of that bucket full of crabs if you don't wanna get crush.

[@Kareszkoma]

@@jerm70 Systems don't work, because they are stupid. I want a house, and a wife. Systems don't care for the human value. Because it's beaurocracy and numbers. It doesn't look at human things.

[@TheDocperian]

If the kid has been working around the business and picked up things from their parent throughout their entire life, it's not nepotism. Being in the family /can/ inherently make you the most qualified person and definitely the most trusted, that's why family businesses exist. My dad's been pouring concrete for 60 years, I helped him through most of high school/college and while I have no interest in taking it over if someone were to say I was only there because of blood while denying the years of long days working myself to the bone I'd be fuckin' pissed too. Nepotism is when personal relations outweigh qualifications. Being personally related does not mean you are not qualified. If OP fucked off and partied until their late-20's then walked in and took over the company then 100% and they deserve shit for it, but it sounds like they worked and were rewarded.

[@ExeErdna]

Nepotism people think of is hiring your only son just so you can keep the business in the family. Yet all they do is snort coke and bang the HR lady all day. Yet if your parent(s) brought you in as a kid and put you on the business early you're supposed to keep the family business well IN THE FAMILY. Not like a lot of ventures like KZbin that sells their business RIGHT BEFORE a boom that would have made them richer than just cutting and running.

[@bovineavenger734]

Great take, having someone you can trust is certainly an incredible benefit.

[@viysnjor4811]

It can still technically fall under the definition of nepotism though I agree with you that a lot of the times, they've actually been trained for the situation properly and so its not a big deal. It's only a bad thing when A) it happens in government or B) the nepotism puts someone who is very clearly not capable of doing the job and screws everything up

[@dydx_]

Nepotism describes a neutral progress by which those with power or influence are favoring relatives, friends, or associates, especially by giving them jobs. Yes, the poster had profited off of nepotism. Was his case bad? No, I would say that's fairly average middle/ upper middle class behavior. This already implies it being a product of nepotism, especially if held relative to the vast majority of society. Which makes OP point valid as well, that it is ridiculous to lump him together with Actors who make millions. Nonetheless, it is nepotism. The issue is people are trying to judge a process as good/bad without understanding the a process itself is just that: a process. The relations are more important here than the definitions people make up for themselves (I highly doubt most have picked up these terminology through academic research...)

[@ImInForAWuppin]

@@dydx_ It just isn't nepotism, though. Maybe by some 'proper' definition, but that just isn't how language works. In this context, and I'd argue in the broader societal context, there is both a requirement and an implication that one is not qualified. The comment was about the action of nepotism, in the context of a dig from an in-law, more specifically within a conversation coming up as a result of a magazine cover. These people weren't having deep intellectual conversation, it was not about the underlying cognitive biases of mankind. Bringing up the "academic" definition here is as ignorant as if I said I'd read a book last week and you told me I had said I was going to read it the next, these just simply aren't the same word. The context and intended use matter.

[@Potemjira]

My dumbass read it as "Neopetism"

[@wakipai3D]

Thats somehow worse

[@TheDocperian]

@@wakipai3D please be patient I have neopetism

[@jando5980]

lupe > gelert

[@tuseroni6085]

that's ther term for when you get a job because you are keanu reeves.

[@misterogers9423]

Your friend or kid is also less likely to steal from you assuming you are on good terms since they are offering you a job in the first place.. But it really depends on the type of the job and what the qualifications are. Giving your kid a part time job at a comic store isn't the same as making him a VP with not much authority at a big corporate company. Meanwhile my dad worked at a Fortune 100 company for 40+ years, and he refused to even get me an interview with anyone for an entry level position because "he didn't know anyone who was hiring" and told me to apply online. I did for about 20 jobs and had no responses.

[@johninenglish8236]

Based dad

[@otavioluiz554]

I feel this so hard. My dad was a very important figure in the public service of my state and he had a certain reputation for getting people jobs. Not only to several family members but to friends, friends of friends etc. And refused to do so for me for years. Then he steps out and now asks why i dont have a job at the moment.

[@cossack9991]

"Based dad" more like the dad didnt love him.

[@Zephlos]

@@cossack9991 more like dickdad

[@viysnjor4811]

@@otavioluiz554 sounds like cope tbh. And i hope your dad wasn't getting people jobs *in* your government, that'd be pretty bad corruption

[@jordan7077]

How do u feel about the Canadian PM being a unqualified nepotism baby for politics

[@nickkorkodylas5005]

I'm pretty sure his dad would be proud of him for turning his country into an authoritarian socialist shithole just like he did with Cuba.

[@Matthew_Y]

I hated him less than the other guy and only F*CKTARDS don't practice their right to vote.......unless that shit is obviously rigged.

[@justanotherdave4835]

Not sure if that counts Trudeau's father is Castro who was in charge of a different country

[@helloneighbour2408]

i mean hes shit but he was elected. blame the voters

[@Gebora]

when it comes to government as a whole, hell no. there should never be a family business situation when it comes to public office. thats how we get a never ending line of tyrant kings

[@robincray116]

As long as the person can do their job properly. As long as people aren't asking "why haven't you been fired yet?". It's fine.

[@jakecarpenter397]

Even then, if the people who own the business don't care, then what business is it of anyone else that they suck at their job?

[@migueltucabron]

I mean if it's a family business yes absolutely. It's none of our business what's happening there but if i own stocks in a company and there's nepotism going on, i'm gonna be pissed cause most likely it will hurt the stock price.

[@icebox1954]

@@jakecarpenter397 It's their business because the bumbling fool will negatively affect them. Take a page from history and maybe you'd see why your question is as stupid as it is.

[@AdrianCruz_]

4:09 needs its’ own clip now

[@Pudding404]

This really did boil down to whether they were actively contributing to the conversation or not, really didn't take specifically a MLA formatted report with an emphasis on feelings to get the reddit users' points across. Bless Pippa, her opinionated debates is really her strong suit.

[@ultimatemaster2407]

Coming from a guy that has zero access to opportunities for nepotism-driven employment & have immediate family that have had to watch people succeed where they didn't deserve it because their family knew someone higher up in the company, I can understand the frustration...... But......... LET'S BE REAL If you're starting shit over it, joking or not, you're starting it because you've got a big case of the "It Should Have Been ME"s.

[@friedrichwilhelmvonsteuben7952]

nepotism wears a small round hat and controls every major industry in the world you can't talk about or criticize nepotism or it will destroy you

[@TheHamerer]

🤡

[@pepealasquid6005]

Was just about to comment about our greatest ally.

[@benito1620]

Woah there, cool it with the anti-nepotism remarks. You might lose your bank account for saying things like that.

[@redline841]

Niji wears hats????

[@DeSpaceFairy]

That one is a concern only when you are journalist or politic with enough balls and integrity to go against it, the worse kind of nepotism is when it's systemic, then for any little things that isn't immediate consumption, you have to had some acquaintance or family member to helping. Otherwise without a network or the money to "ease your way around", shit either goes at the crawling pace of an asthmatic snail or won't always get done.

[@MrAskmannen]

Nepotism is basically shorthand for Hasan Piker's career

[@GoldenRedder]

True that.

[@humrH2360]

​@slawaboga1433He has no grace

[@darklazerx7913]

To be fair hasan also did well cause political twitch was undersaturated and he was able to get the attention of Destiny. He's also good looking and not that nerdy or edgy wich helps have more outreach.

[@ItamiBukoto]

8:07 What a fun party!

[@ThePwnageHobo]

4:08 LOL nicely done

[@krugerofcause9048]

Based takes as always

[@FireOccator]

It's actually disheartening to know that majority of jobs are acquired trough nepotism.

[@mrminecraftcubeable]

Idk, if it's the dad's business and the kid is decent at the job i don't see the problem The problem is when just the name is the only thing carrying them

[@ulrickts]

My father was a landscape architect. My nepotism was free potting soil and some annuals each spring. Aw yussss.

[@ADayinWhite]

Regarding Pippa's hypothetical of running a business and choosing to hire family or a friend: Maybe it's because I'm mentally wired completely different than most people when it comes to social interactions, but if someone isn't qualified for a job, they're not getting it, family or friend be damned. If you want something, you have to earn it by showing me you deserve it. I genuinely don't care how many personal relationships that ruins because if something like _that_ is the cause, then the relationship was never ment to last to begin with. I've seen nepotism inadvertently ruin what would have been incredible opportunities for people close to me more times than I would ever care to reflect on. I'm not gonna be the cause of that pain for someone else.

[@foristrothbert568]

It depends more on the situation. I mean, I'm not going to turn away family or friends from getting a job, but then again I wouldn't be giving them a highly technical job. Like Pippa mentioned, something like stocking shelves. And one would hope that if you own a business and are going to turn it over to your kid, you've ideally groomed them for the position and they actually want the job. Just handing it to some pot-smoking doofus that doesn't care would be dumb, but giving it to a child who wants to continue the business and has been trained for it is the best way to go.

[@ADayinWhite]

@@foristrothbert568 Agreed. I definitely failed to reiterate her point in my comment. I was thinking "Anything where you are NOT hired on sight", which basically disqualifies most skill-based professions.

[@foristrothbert568]

@@ADayinWhite Oh yeah, completely agree there, and I'm sure Pippa does too.

[@Chestyfriend]

For most of humanity, family is more important than profit. American society is just so much different, they seem to be taught to hate family and consider them competition at best and liabilities at worst.

[@foristrothbert568]

@@Chestyfriend Sadly, that's a result of the programming we've been getting for decades to destroy the American family and American culture along with it.

[@AzureWiler]

"nepotism makes financial sense" -Pippa

[@grimm9923]

life is a dice roll, everyone gets a diferent outcome, no one is the same as the other so there is fairnes in that unfairnes

[@Reflox1]

A family business ideally stays in the hands of the family. For that to happen you will have to hire your kid, nephew/niece or inlaws at some point so they get to know the business and can work their way towards taking over.

[@Rannos22]

The reddit replies are so bad lol

[@bigjen8238]

Having your children work on the farm or the business, and then let them inherit it, was the norm throughout most of human history. Don't people understand why "Smith" is a last name?

[@jkterjters]

As long as they’re good at the job there shouldn’t ever be a problem, period.

[@LobotomyTC]

Nepotism is what happens when two people get together to do something that I will later be called an antisemite for.

[@crisr.8280]

Sure. Hire family and friends but they work up to their position. Keep the money in the family/community. Introduce some fresh blood with training and interns. Also limit the power of the less competent friends and family. Life sucks as it is and take/accept any help you can and pay it forward after.

[@joemama114]

I wish I could bottle the rage Pippa has when she says NINE-TEEN THIRTY NINE BITCHASS! That would be the worlds most profitable designer drug if you could sell that.

[@Ketooey]

Nepotism makes a brutal kind of sense, because one of the biggest hurdles to getting hired is trust. That's kinda the whole point of a resume, it's a list of things to convince the employer to trust you with a job. Nepotism is an imperfect shortcut to trust, since the person benefitting from the nepotism usually comes with the baggage of "Don't fuck this job up too bad, or else this or that social circle I share with my employer is going to hear about it."

[@Channel-23s]

If you’re qualified and have experience then you aren’t really what it means tbh as you’re ready and got the qualities needed to succeed and keep the thing going

[@ruk7657]

that's what a lot of people are missing. I don't know what the textbook definition of nepotism is, but the PROBLEM with nepotism is that people that aren't qualified or competent in a workfield ARE getting hired over better suited people for the position just because of connections. however for a family business, you've probably already had a lot of experience in the trade since your parents have probably already thought you most if not all there is to know by the time they give you the job. and then there are the jobs that don't really require much or any specialised skills or education, that anyone with a highschool diploma could work, so that can't really be counted as nepotism, because it doesn't matter who gets the job, if there aren no requirements for the job and anyone could do it, of course the owner or manager will have SOME employees that are relatives or friends. it WOULD be nepotism if someone has been climbing the work ladder to a high position in a small business and then the owner jus gives that position to their kid that hasn't worked a day there. but how is employing someone you know and trust for a job anyone could do unfair??? as for OP, yeah, like Pipa said, you mention money, you're crossing a line

[@Fordo007]

My dad who was president of a steel company, and honeslty was great at it, kept that company running when everyone else was failing. At any rate, he told me all my life, getting a job was not 'what you know, but who you know' networking was everything. And despite being the president of the company he could not even get me a job ANYWHERE in the company. Even with 'who you know' it didn't work out. I've only gotten customer service jobs. Nepotism had not worked out for me.

[@ouroboricscribe3201]

Doing your job as a parent and trainning your kids to do the job and do it right is not nepotism. I feel sorry for all the poor bastards whose parents never loved them and raised them on "go chase your dreams" bullshit instead of actually preparing them for the adult world and real life.

[@ruk7657]

preparing your kid for the world is important, but I think chasing your dreams is fine too, as long as the kid actually has a goal. there is this ex professional skateboarder, now musician that I've recently discovered and she has talked how when she told her parents as a kid (she became a pro skater at like 13 or something) she wanted to skate or later when she wanted to do music, her parents didn't forbid her, discourage her or force her to do something esle, they just told her that it will be difficult, and she will have to work really hard to make it work. and I think that's good, if a kid has aspirations for something, they should chase their dreams. and yes it doesn't always work out, but I think it's good for someone to put in the time and effort into something they love, because even if it doesn't work out you still have spent time working hard because of your passion, and have probably built a good work ethic at that point, and that will stick with you. you will have a very different outlook on work, and life as a whole, if you dedicate (or you're forced to dedicate) your time to a career you don't care about. I don't think you meant much when you wrote that second half of your comment 2 months ago, so sorry for taking it this seriously, but I just feel strongly about this topic

[@icebox1954]

If the person got the job over someone else due to the family or friendly relations then that's nepotism, your feelings are worthless in the face of facts. For most of human history (for normal peasants, not royalty) nepotism wasn't a thing because parents taught their children from young to take over their parents' business. This all changed in the beginning of the industrial age when children moved into bigger industrial towns away from the farms and small villages and as such nepotism became far more impactful for the average person. Even if the child is qualified if he isn't more qualified than someone else but still gets the job then that's nepotism. If the kid was trained from young and is more qualified then that wouldn't be nepotism as he actually IS the best person for the job. Happy to help Mr. 3201.

[@vaclavjebavy5118]

in small private companies like OP's you can only really call it nepotism if they aren't qualified. In such a company you only have a responsibility to yourself, to make money to support your family. If your wife/relatives can work, how is that bad? If anything, it means you can support each other mutually. With government/big companies, even if qualified, you have a responsibilty to other people to pick the best person possible.

[@rwberger6]

Networking and making use of connections is a valuable skill for any business.

[@tomaO2]

I would have been very happy taking over the family buisness, but dad wanted my brother to do it instead, and when he said no dad sold the buisness... Did not even ask me to help out with the buisness, ever, so I did horrible minimum wage jobs instead. I really don't understand why he never wanted me as a part of it.

[@Kareszkoma]

Pippa is not exactly right with Walmart. Depends heavily on the children. Lots of big companies and businesses are made from very many elements, and the children, just do not fit in there, if they don't have the education. They also, don't have the life experience. Just being qualified is not always enough. Life experience can mean, that you know when and what to, but also when not to. The paper and calculation says you will make money, but you shouldn't order that in bulk, because of an IRL event, it's likely that it won't sell well, and stay on you. The profit is lost, because of that. The company is vulnerable. Those with enough intelligence can see this, wait for this opportunity, or even create, plan this event, so they can bankrupt your company, when it's most vulnerable. That is life experience.

[@AkitouChaos]

Nepotism is gonna be a given, and obviously you want to employ friends/family if you can help them, as long as they're not outright incompetent. It just sucks when you apply to the place your friend works, and after months of not hearing back, your friend tells you the boss' son got the job. HE WAS ALWAYS GETTING THE JOB, why was there even an application?!

[@my9thaccount140]

Do people not realize that for 99.9% of families large quantities of wealth are multi generational affairs? A father giving his children a job opportunity and ensuring they inherit his wealth when he passes isn’t nepotism, it’s good fucking parenting. My family wasn’t dirt poor, but we weren’t rich either. We lived paycheck to paycheck and through saving and investment my father accrued half a million. When he dies I will get that money and build on it, maybe I’ll double it in my lifetime. Then I’ll pass it on to my own children. I do dislike the idea that prioritizing your own is bad, especially when it comes to finances because it just keeps people poor because every new generation is starting from zero. Hell how do you think the 🇮🇱s got where they are? Addendum Also in retrospect my father definitely took advantage of the child labor loophole regarding using your own children as labor. I definitely learned a lot and helped the family stay afloat though. Regardless I’ll have to make a child labor joke to him at some point.

[@champ6436]

nepotism is just inherited networking tho. instead of spending year making contact and network to finally find a job you can just go " dad help me find a job and he would send you work for one of his friends". i can fully understand people being salty about that because i too was in a similar situation. without a job nor money, going to interview everyday, sending CV everywhere and spending 3 month without finding anything whereas 80% of my friend would just ask their parent and find a job in a day. ( they weren't qualified and professionnal too and some ended up getting fired in just 2 weeks ), it felt like they didn't deserved it. a lot of time i did some job interview, didn't get the job and learnt after that the kids of the boss or some manager got the position instead. you can't help but feel like you just wasted time preparing and going to all these interview for position that were alreay given.

[@billybonregularjin]

i never liked the idea of family hiring family just because it's like paying money from the right pocket to the left. Literally no net benefit and i risk destroying my family's legacy if i don't know what i'm doing.

[@whatdoyouwantfrommegoogle]

Reddit "intellectuals" being vile. What a surprise.

[@Nero_Karel]

Honestly just having your closest possible relatives inherit something you own in a regular fashion isn't really nepotism in the traditional sense, is it? It's just basic care for your kids - when I say "nepotism" I'm usually rather thinking of someone who wouldn't even consider strangers for any position because they know "third cousin Moyshe will do a better job than the goyim anyway *rub hands*" and are possibly hoping to get something out of it at the expense of society at large

[@HectorCotto97]

I don't understand, what's the problem? At the end of the day a job is a job regardless of who owns the business. Maybe you can have an argument if someone completely unqualified is given a high position job or something, but if we're talking about a simple job that anyone can do and your family member or friend needs a job for whatever the reason may be then, what's the issue?

[@robrib2682]

this feels like more what a family business was back when people would have to apprentice under someone to learn a trade. In those situations if you arn't the right person for the job to keep the business running you get another trade, and work elsewhere.

[@NotTheRookie]

Every job I've gotten has been through nepotism. I have kept every job I have gotten because I am good at them.

[@derrickcrowe3888]

People working hard and building something so their children can benefit and have easier lives than their parents is among the most wholesome reasons to work. We shouldn't be demonizing that. At least in the private sector. When we get into the public sector and government, nepotism very quickly becomes a problem.

[@beerhoven]

Love that rabbit.

[@デヴィン]

Businesses literally don’t care, it’s the whole reason they have a referral form in the job applications.

[@thetimeimmemorial9572]

i was pretty idealistic before. but then i realize by experience that most job can be learned and trust is more important, and my friend and family has been very trustworthy. so whenever i have the chance to present them the option, ill do it. most don't wanna work in my field but the one that wants, do work harder than people that was hired publicly. idk, they seemed to feel like they have a sense of belonging working for the family. but that is provided that you have a close relationship with your family, their good names are yours and your good name are theirs. its a century old thing in human communities so i can understand that nepotism stuck in the real word and will continue for a long long time.

[@oldoutlet6946]

The way I see it; with celebrities, it's more of a royalty thing going on with babies growing up famous via association which is meh. Regular families and friends offering opportunities to those close to them on the other hand is just helping those you love which, honestly, I don't get the fuss over. Like no duh I'm going to offer a gig to someone I've grown a bond and trust with over the years if they can do the job.

[@Vherstinae]

There are two common issues with nepotism, and neither are directly related to hiring people close to you. The first is a skill issue, where simply because someone is related to you; a close friend; or a member of your religious community, you give them the job despite them not being qualified. The second, which overlaps with the first, is the process of entryism. In short, entryism is the process of deliberately infiltrating and altering/fucking up something. First you have actually qualified outsiders who get their foot in the door thanks to exceptional skill (who would, funnily enough, be defeated through original application of nepotism). Once these initial infiltrators earn enough trust in the company to recommend or control hiring, they bring in more people who are less and less qualified but share ideological doctrine with the initial entryists. Eventually the company is taken over by ideologues and all wrong-thinkers are silenced or chased out, and the company is made into something unrecognizable - often ending in utter collapse since there are too many incompetents weighing it down. But that's fine to the entryists, since the ultimate goal was to infiltrate and destroy what the company was. Whether it's subverted into something new or simply falls apart, either way is a win to them.

[@CanadAssassiN]

gotta love the mind fucking tactics of says really fked up insulting insensitive thing someone has an issue with it instead of apologizing or taking responsibility for what they said, they gaslight the person into thinking its somehow THEIR fault by not reacting the way they wanted them to I'm not overreacting, im reacting exactly how a normal person would react to someone who just insulted them to their face .

[@kamerad4749]

this shit makes me feel even more inclined to take over the family farm

[@TheMercian13]

People screeching about nepotism are just jealous their parents didn’t leave them anything. EDIT: networking is not nepotism, but again those that are shit at networking will cry about it.

[@sharkfalcon4816]

aktually 🤓 nepotism doesn't even necessarily mean you are or aren't unqualifies for the job, rather it's just you were handed the job from friends/family/close peoples

[@IRMentat]

Hell it could simply mean you were doing aspects of the job as part of a family business before the actual job even became available.

[@andrewgrell5766]

I believe this was called "networking" before the age of the internet

[@DrBockNstein]

If this reddit post was astro turfed to promote that article any harder you could watch the bears fucking lose on it.

[@brandonandujar2289]

Shalom

[@Ibian666]

Default yes. If you have to ask then, most likely, yes. But not every single time.

[@InceyWincey]

Principles are principles. If you think something is unfair in some way it does not matter how much money or power is involved. It is the action that is unfair, not the result. We don’t base our morality on outcomes, we base them on actions. The opposite is one way in which we define evil: “The ends justify the means.” So he’s not just a hole for getting offended, he’s a hypocrite and morally deficient too.

[@Kareszkoma]

Easy come, easy go. This is why you don't give people stuff like that. Because they don't know what to do with it or the true value of it. Train those people, educate them. Than, they can either create the opportunity or act on it if there is any.

[@gayusschwulius8490]

The logic behind nepotism is simply that it's better to hire someone you know for sure is reasonably qualified instead of someone who might be even better or a total disaster, with no way of knowing for sure which of the two it is. It's only a problem if the position you are giving away isn't yours (so, for example, if you are the CEO of a company, but own no shares, or if you derive your power from a public office). This whole clichee of "rich dad sets totally unqualified son up as VP in his company" doesn't happen IRL anyway, because no rich man would be stupid enough to endanger his company to give his son a position he doesn't need. In those cases, they set up trustfunds, that's far more reasonable.

[@TheSilversepiroth]

The thing isn't necessarily what nepotism is definitionally, it's the implications baked into the usage of the word. Nobody's necessarily gonna worry about the guy who owns Walmart giving his kids high-level positions if there's the understanding that they're gonna get treated like anybody else in that position. The concern is, to continue with the Walmart analogy, that when that person loses the company 300 million dollars that their responsibility for a loss that's going to impact both the price of products and people's ability to get raises gets swept under the rug because they're related to the CEO. It's the implicit part of nepotism that everybody has an issue with, not the explicit. That being said not the asshole for the OP

[@drthmik]

Nepotism From the Latin nepo Which is the root source for the word nephew combined with favoritism It is giving advantage to a family member without regard to quality Aka it is how all business and politics worked from the dawn of history until about 50 years ago

[@LinX1515]

All jobs require TRUST, so hiring someone you know, and therefore trust, makes sense for a lot of people. Not to mention that a lot of jobs are pretty simple and can be picked up in a month or two

[@CULatte]

I current have 2 jobs, one that pays and the family business. Yeah, totally nepotism, who wants to be adopted

[@aerenntyne1099]

i hate how people treat nepotism as something inheretly bad, i only see it as a negative if the person hired wasn't qualified for the job got it just because of friends/family. I have nothing against it if the defining factor was the nepotism, because how do you choose people with similar capabilities? Also, in family business, the children learn from young age how the business works (not always, but it's not uncommon) so the son tends to be more than qualified.

[@ExeErdna]

They hate it until their friends/family gets them a hookup and then they shut right up

[@notherenorthere65]

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[@jamesspinner7764]

woo! i needed a dose of Base Rabbit!

[@IRMentat]

100% with Pippa on this one. Getting the right fit for a job in terms of personality can me orders of magnitude more beneficial for any business (and the people who already work there) than a "more skilled" person with a manner/attitude/approach that doesn't fit with the existing workplace tone/atmosphere. Not all businesses are out to profoundly change the nature of the world or become international franchises, likewise you don't tend to stay on top by constantly dealing with internal power struggles and upheaval within every department. Stability/efficiency and the ability to adapt is key to longer term survival (success tends to be more RNG depending on industry/genre) Either way that's what trial periods in jobs are for and why there's few things worse than a bad boss with no accountability.

[@Julian-ey7is]

Magazine? Isn't that were you put the bullets on a handgun

[@thehillz726]

i personally think that its only an issue if they aren't putting in the work or unqualified for the position. on that front idk if op is asshole

[@Seijik4702]

Pippa has huge Bill Burr energy.

[@lenewruse]

Pippa forgot that most of reddit is unemployed and is probably envious at the fact that someone actually has an income.

[@Kareszkoma]

Well the wife or whoever is right about nepo baby, even if they are commoners. It's just how it is. The guy did got some advantages in life by getting that. But it's not really doable in other ways either. Inheriting such a thing is not easy. Certain things, small companies manly, can't be trusted on randoms. They are not big enough for other things. So, it's like that. But also, kind of like the point of trying to do better for your family.

[@robrib2682]

the flipside of someone doing this like you described is that you can guarantee the receiver is gonna be put through the ringer as it were so the business stays afloat in the family for the next generation. personally I just think the idea of "lets discuss this thing that most people hate, and oh look a prime example: you" is not how you should involve family or friends in the conversation

[@jackratscratpack9323]

Nepotism works if its a type of service that can be managed with just something like family size they also have to do their job if they get hired and instead doing thier job they’d rather be on their phone and scratch thier ass that ain’t going to fly this is the problem currently with comics specifically marvel and dc editors are hiring their friends who can’t write a decent story they accept the position cause they want the popularity thinking that will also mean big money and their wrong thier friends may have hired and opened the door for them but if they can’t sell to thier audience thier going to get hired less and less and it doesn’t help that one they insult the customers and push them out of American comics into manga cause manga is much more welcoming for newcomers they’re easier to understand and start with and they don’t insult thier customers they say thank you they show respect cause they know they wouldn’t be where they are without thier fans buying their product 2 marvel and dc is trying to fish for the minority audience in the worst way by pushing out old fans cause to then the mindset is “they’re like 30 years old and they’ll die in a few years so we’ve got to get more of the younger audience” their that out of touch not realizing if they stuck to just telling fun superhero stories and cool characters they would have that young audience it’s the same working pattern it’s why the adults today still buy comics cause of the stories that gripped them as kids comics thought the minor audience would mean more money but no they pirate that they don’t buy the product long story short nepotism works if the people will still do thier job and follow a sound plan Nepotism doesn’t work when the management is basically chickens running around with their head cut off and are to lazy to do their job or to prideful to say “we screwed up were sorry we insulted you we’re going back to what worked for so many years”

[@baz3184]

Birthday presents are nepotism

[@PR0XYL1NK]

wasn't it proven in the reddit files recently that over 87% of reddit are just chatgpt python bots?

[@jameso2290]

Haha, was this some sort of recent leak? Hilarious if true. Do you have a link to these reddit files? Or actually, I think KZbin deletes links so, do you have a set of keywords I can Google for sources? I tried looking up "Reddit files" and didn't find anything.

[@PR0XYL1NK]

@@jameso2290 haha, no sorry. just a silly joke.

[@jameso2290]

LOL, I can't tell reality from fiction anymore. I asked for proof because your claim is totally believable. Reddit has been filled by bots for at least the last couple years. And chat GPT only makes it worse. I definitely would believe that at least 50% of Reddit content is bots and paid shills, lol

[@ceresbane]

So I looked up the non-family version of nepotism since back in the day when I looked up nepotism was expressly defined as family only. The term cronyism, came out. Basically implying brown nosers, kiss asses and users and leeches. You get in your easy high paying job because as is often the case the upper exec parts of companies are full of factions in a power struggle (sega is full of stories of self sabotage-wasting so much company money to screw ppl over and keep their position). So you bring in cronies to consolidate power. Nepotism derives from essentially the latin word for nephew. But these days cronyism and nepotism is now put under a general term nepotism. Which I get honestly cronyism sounds so made up. But it makes sense though. Cronies are cronies.

[@DeusExDraconian]

This is something poor people get mad about. Trust is a highly valued commodity and you can trust a family member or friend more than you can the most qualified stranger. The only time it isn't correct, as Pippa said, is if you are training or grooming someone for a position, but then you decide to hire your friend instead and leave the other guy hanging.

[@jazeenharal6013]

Definitionally it's when you hire somebody from your family or in group preferentially, overlooking someone who may be more qualified. You don't know, because others aren't even considered. It may be the way of the world, but that doesn't mean it's good.

[@hiro221]

she is so fucking based wtf

[@LuvboneX]

I guarantee you that the chick who made the "nepotism-baby"-joke grew up in a single parent household. OP should have asked her about the relationship with her father.

[@joemama114]

Bra, I was given many jobs by my dad, one time he asked me to peel the glue off of flooring tiles. I did, I got nothing for it. He gave them away to a friend for free. Nepotism at work BABY!

[@YingShanLT]

Your thumbnail has a typo in it and it's making me seethe.

[@haflife2486]

Holy fuck Pippa, she's so rational its awesome

[@jinxed5357]

Nepotism is good most of the time, the only time it's completely wrong is when it comes to a public servant job .

[@TheSlammurai]

Lets say, for the sake of argument, that the boss's son IS the most qualified person in the entire world for the job. Would "nepotism man bad" people really say that the boss should hire someone less qualified just because the most qualified person is their son?

[@Hammer1987]

There is nothing wrong with nepotism. If I build a successful company then it is my right to hand that off to my children. Before giving them the entire company to run I would give them different jobs in the company for them to gain experience working there. The only way nepotism is bad is if the person in question is completely incompetent and is just a liability and a waste of space, but even then, it is my right to make stupid decisions with my own company.

[@TheSisyphusExperience]

why is pippa so based

[@btTara]

I understand what Pippa is talking about, but people really hate nepotism for other reasons besides the fact that family/friends would get hired instead of other qualified people. No doubt she's right that the BIL's wife was rudely singling out OP, but there's more to it than just hiring family and friends. Nepotism can lead to a bad work environment when someone hired for the job is unable to understand the importance of everyone's work/contributions. Someone hired because they are a friend/family are more likely to be protected from any backlash from their poor work since their boss is a friend/family. Thus they'll likely get away with abusing co-workers/clients, and other terrible things than if that person was a stranger. People tend to want to protect their friends and family and sadly they'll do it at the expense of people who work for them or clients.

[@Kareszkoma]

Or..! Just saying.. We could've had two football teams and not this stupid school system, and everyone could've gone playing football. Instead we had one, the kids didn't care and played together anyways.

[@Basically_Anybody]

this whole "oh OP is definitely a nepotism baby" misses the possibility that OP was the most qualified person for the position. Are people just NEVER allowed to hire friends or family members ever?

[@RegenerationOfficial]

nepotism is university? like I only work because I can't afford to lose that income

[@ultraguy14]

That person is quite literally an example of nepotism in action regardless of how they feel about it.

[@antonischatz.2133]

As a citizen of the Hellenic Republic, I am more knowledgeable in this than I am comfortable with.

[@Sammysapphira]

Nepotism specifically refers to people of power and influence, so a dad hiring their son to work with his lawn mowing business is not the definition of nepotism.

[@howardkurtus7069]

people are actually stupid, who wouldn't want their kids to have financial security and a life that is easier than what they had to go through.

[@kingsmanlad4147]

Awwww boohoo Billy’s dad gave him a job at the hardware shop he owns that barely turns a profit.

[@SelibeIi]

Why can't Pippa just look up what nepotism means? This is why words with clearly defined meanings get corrupted and misused until it loses it's original definition...

[@lancearnedo7837]

She knows exactly what it means, like the basic definition, but she's trying to get what everyone in chat would define it as

[@DeSpaceFairy]

She isn't wrong on the literal definition and context, in people's mind the word has become synonymous with negative behaviours admittedly so.

[@EmperorHoldar]

I'm a nepotism hire, but my performance is better than my successor. Can you be mad that I'm better than the previous hire if I do better?

[@dylangarrison345]

Nepotism is bad favor favertism over hard work