Pistol Caliber Carbine Cartridges

From the 9mm Luger to the .44 Magnum ... and even the .45 Colt/.454 Casull, light, handy carbines chambered for pistol caliber cartridges can be highly effective fighting rifles. I will discuss the semi-auto versions as well as the lever action models for 2nd Amendment-impaired states.

[@anangryranger]

I'm an old school type. Lots of single and double action revolvers in 357mag, 38Spl, and 45 Colt. And my long guns are either 357mag or 45 Colt. I cast and load my own ammo. Living in the woods of E. Texas, my range is often well under 100m. My primary concern is feral hogs, coyote, and Feral dogs that run my woods. Both long guns and handguns easily take down 200 lbs or larger hogs with ease. And I'm far from feeling helpless with my "antiquated" weapons against a criminal attack. 😏

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

You are well armed against all critters, 2-legged or 4-legged.

[@anangryranger]

@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb I seem to think so too. Did 2 1/2 tours in Vietnam. 30 years as a peace officer with three shootings during my career. In my mid 70's now, but I can still get around ok. I do like my leverguns. 😏

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

@@anangryranger Giddyup!

[@sharonrigs7999]

Antiquated? I've never seen anyone ' walk off ' a hit from a .45 Colt or .38 Spl lol

[@anangryranger]

@@sharonrigs7999 Well, I was actually making fun of the plastic 9mm wonder guns. And no, there's no plastic weapons in my safe or hip. 😏

[@chrissidwell9455]

I bought a modle 1894 Winchester Trapper Carbine with a 16" barrel, brand new back in 1987 chambered in 44 magnum. It can hold 10 rounds in the tubular magazine too. I could never bring myself to sell it. That little rifle with the right bullet and powder combination hits extremely hard and penetrates deep. A load that I always thought would be an excellent self defence option was a Remington 180 grain hollow point bullet moving at 1950 fps, and it wasn't a maximum load ! It does massive, massive damage to a coyote at 50 yards, looking like a bomb went off inside it. It shoulders quickly and I got very fast and accurate with it, to the point that I could hit a running rabbit within 30 yards. When I got bifocals, I had to stop shooting it because I couldn't see the open sights anymore. I may try to adapt a red dot sight to it sometime. I just love that little rifle. I've shot it so much that I wore the bluing off the lever, grip, and trigger. 😅. No its not for sale Dick ! PS: I think it was 28 grains of Win 296 behind that 180gr bullet.

[@blackhawk7r221]

28gns of W296! Jeez

[@edt8535]

I had one of those in .44 mag!!! I had the “wisdom” to sell it, and now I kick myself. Great gun in .44, but the .357 was actually heavier and my fat fingers could not push the .357 rounds in like I could the .44’s…and unfortunately I am on the same page as you as far as the iron sights go. Oh well.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

I'm waiting for a "trigger" for my new Labradar, which is finicky so far, but I have a test load for the .44 using Hornady 180XTPs and more than your 28 gr load (I'm using H110, but it and 296 are the same powder - manufactured by WW). No pressure signs at all, but failed to register on the Labradar on the first try.

[@matthewangotti7205]

44 magnum out of a rifle barrel hits hard. It is a good brush, deer hunting choice.

[@kwmtang]

Thank you. Your content is outstanding. Not a bunch of flashy, cinematic, LARPing montages (not that I don't like that), but just good, thoughtful, reasonable info. I love it. It feels like talking with a knowledgeable friend. I'm a fan, a subscriber, and I wanted to leave a comment for engagement. Looking forward to more content!

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

Thanks for the kind words.

[@homeinthewhiteoaks]

If you get to count the 30carbine as a PCC, and I agree it fits. You have to count the Winchester 1907/1910 in 351win and 401win too. Great video as always !

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

There a lot of other old/obsolete calibers that would do an excellent job, but I stuck to the stuff new shooters could reasonably find.

[@curtwuollet2912]

Even at short range, under stress, a carbine will improve your hit probability. It's simply more stable and pointable. Also, ruger made an autoloader carbine in .44 magnum in the 70s.

[@metamando]

'61 to '99...I have the stock from my 71 glued up in my shop right now...she didn't like the 300 grains all that much.😅

[@theoriginalOSOK]

I view the Henry in 44 rimfire as being the first widely produced pistol caliber carbine. I have a Ruger PC 9mm carbine and I really like it. I also have several Rossi R92 lever actions - .357 Mag, 44 Mag and 45 Colt. Very capable "close" range fighting carbines. Great discussion - really enjoy your vids Dick. Keep them coming!

[@chrissidwell9455]

Hey, I got a 1894 Winchester with a 20" barrel in 30-30, it think it was made in 1982, and yes I always thought it would be an awesome self defence firearm. Can you do a short demonstration on how to shoot a lever action fast ? I have been able to shoot a lever action rifle fast and accurate for at least 30 years, but alot of folks probably have never been around one. Can you do a short demonstration for the people out there on how to shoulder, aim, and work the lever on one ? Might be beneficial, especially in this state.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

I am planning a video or two on how to best setup a levergun for fast use - ghost-ring sights, etc. and how to deliver fast, accurate shots.

[@georgerector9252]

Bless your heart that you live in Illinois. Move to Texas. I’m a wheelgun guy so the 20” levers gun in 357 mag is my go to although I have I have a M1 carbine.

[@johnlacasse8893]

I have a keltec in 40... I love 357 lever guns... I heard on "Gun Talk" a ballistics guy was paraphrased... that a 44 magnum out of a carbine, matches 308 performance in ballistics gel. I think that is very impressive...

[@dbmail545]

That's probably right (gel results). Of course any rifle cartridge will reach out a lot farther. The same consideration as a shotgun: want to be devastating at close range, or would you rather have more stand-off range?

[@linkbond08]

It depends on the range, you wouldn't make a 300 yard shot with a 44 mag. Meanwhile it's the sweet spot for a 308.

[@keithbailey8936]

I subscribed because of your Brittany dogs. I'm a recovering quail hunter from Illinois. Farmer Hunter Gun nut. .....Armored Farmer

[@telesniper2]

Are you the one that put up all those Burma-Shave style pro-gun signs (you see them all the time in rural Illinois)?😜

[@johnkellmer5133]

I do appreciate your experience informed knowledge, and that you are willing to share it. Thanks very much for these videos.

[@thearrowheadwoodsman3811]

My marlin 1894 in 357 and my ruger blackhawk are a great combination for me. Great channel here, Cheers !!

[@catsamazing338]

Just found your channel today. Have watched many and subscribed. Excellent format. A lot of good, well presented information. Cheers and all the best to you.

[@tacman2893]

I am with you on the 1873 Winchester in 357 Mag. My favourite predator load is a 158 grain XTP-FP bullet on a heavy load of H110 powder. Get about 1850 fps in a 24 inch barrel. Great ranch rifle! It’s old school, but they work in hands that know how to run them.

[@user-ps6gu5xo4k]

With loads from Buffalo Bore and others, the 44 mag in a lever action carbine can take all North American game within about 125 yards.

[@RandallWeeks]

A deputy I worked with was going through a divorce and custody battle, needed money real fast for lawyers. He asked me if I would buy his KelTec Sub2000 in .40 cal plus a few mags. Well I did for probably more than it was worth to help him out. I thought it would be a good plinking gun. Turns out it's a really good shooter. I've brought it out around friends and family, it's always a hit and everyone loves it. They're hitting coke cans at 50 yards and coffee cans at almost 100 yards having fun. Thing has never malfunctioned. My only complaint is the cross bolt safety is backwards. Only one I've seen that is left to right to fire.

[@alancranford3398]

Check out the safety on the M240 and M249 and the Beretta 951 pistol. If I remember correctly, those crossbolt safeties are pushed in from the left to fire.

[@RandallWeeks]

I'm a retired 11b. To the best of my memory the safety on an M249 and M240 goes right to left to fire. Of course my memory could be off.

[@user-kp9vj2cj7h]

I'm a lever action rifles fan and I have got many Winchesters and Marlins (and Brownings and Rossis). I can only confirm what you say in your vid: 357, 41 and 44 magnum calibers deliver so much power out of 16 to 24" barrels! And I can shoot the exact same cartridges out of my Colt Pythons, my Ruger Redhawk and my S&W 629. They make true nice combos. I also have a Marlin Camp 9 as I once had a S&W 5906 (magazines are compatible between those guns); and you're right: the gain in speed through the 16" barrel is very small - if any gain at all. What's more the Marlin seems to not appreciate bullets that are not FMJ RN. Thank you again and greetings from France.

[@bjdog42]

A friend had a Marlin camp carbine. He was never able to get a full mag thru it without a malfunction. He put it away as an inherited collector he couldn't sell like I did my Ruger Deerstalker. My Marlin 44mag is one rifle I really regret selling; great hunting rifle to 100 yards. A less expensive carbine is the Rossi 92 but mine is accurate enough to hunt with & in 45colt. Ammo is harder to find in 45colt but a caliber well worth having if you can find it. I keep looking for one of the new Ruger/Marlin 44's & hear they're better than the originals but I'm not seeing them out yet.

[@telesniper2]

I always thought 7.62x25 Tokarev would make a great lever gun cartridge. It's a great little cartridge and really wakes up in a carbine! And while lever guns are decent, if I couldn't get an automatic rifle, my next choice would be a 12 ga shotgun like a Browning Auto 5 (with a mag extension tube).

[@dbx1233]

The concept of the same ammo for different platforms is excellent, for many reasons. I'm old and so is every handgun/carbine I own. If I ever find myself in a position where I have to defend my home, although I have several lever actions in different calibers, I will use my M-1 Carbine. Simply because with the minimum 15 round clip, I can expend a lot of rounds in a short time. (Compared to my lever guns.) Thanks for another interesting topic.

[@GarrisonNichols-ow1hb]

Yes! Finally someone with some actual real world knowledge and awesome advice about different firearms calibers. I've always knew that magnum chambered lever action rifles were awesome but for some reason alot of people think they're old fashioned and obsolete. I live in Massachusetts so yeah AR15s and AKs are definitely banned here. Unless you want a MA legal one with a fixed 10 rounds only magazine that you have to feed with stripper clips.😢 So I've been looking at lever action 357 magnum rifles and they're alot of fun but also powerful. Me personally the 38 special is the ammo I would use. The magnum loads are just too much.

[@cgsimons1187]

The primary benefit gained in a .357 Mag carbine or rifle is the boost in velocity when loaded with .357 Mag ammo. IMHO .357 Mag is manageable from a carbine. If you use .38 Special in the carbine it gains very little in velocity. It may also be a bit less smooth to cycle compared to the appropriate length .357 Mag cartridges. Though .38 Special can be pretty quiet coming out of the long barrel. Uberti makes an 1866 Yellowboy lever action specifically designed for .38 Special so it may be smoother if this is the caliber for you. However, their rifles are expensive!

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

I would stick with the .357 loads, just test to make sure the bullets hold together at carbine velocities. My Browning B92 in .357 refuses to feed .38's smoothly, a little tinkering with the magazine latch might fix it. When I used it for cowboy action shooting I just bought a 500 round batch of Starline brass and loaded very light loads to use in the carbine and my pair of Ruger Vaquero revolvers.

[@GarrisonNichols-ow1hb]

@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb thank you👍

[@N5KDA]

We did some SWAT training with a department with a much larger budget than ours, but I fell in love with their H&K UMP's in 10mm.

[@EdwardShelton-ph1cw]

GForce has recently introduced a 357 Magnum lever action called the Huckleberry. They seem to be priced near 700$. If they hold up well it could be a great choice.

[@nickpaglia543]

Got a Big Horn Armory Model 89, 500 S & W magnum, on order as we speak. I think the 500 magnum is much more useful in a lever-action, than it is in a handgun. It's certainly more pleasant to shoot, and is a lot more powerful out of a rifle.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

A buddy has a .500 barrel for a TC Encore and you're right ... makes more sense to me in a carbine than a handgun. The 89s are SWEET, but a gun shop in Cody, WY told me they had handled several for buyers and the quality control was a little erratic. Hopefully, they have that issue smoothed out.

[@nickpaglia543]

@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb Thank you for the reply. Yes I have heard, and seen, how they can be a bit difficult when cycling the lever, a person has to use some "arm." I opted for the 22" barrel, for a longer sight radius, but am a little concerned about powder burn rates, however, I guess the 500 is a handloaders dream , and sometimes wonder what Elmer Keith could have done regarding 500 loads and barrel lengths... Big wait on the delivery time, these things must be selling well.

[@nickbullard42]

I like the marlin camp carbine in 45 acp. The worst trouble with those seems to be the recoil buffer. The new buffer seems to be better material than the original. Add a wolf recoil spring & it works great!

[@johnnymccann5607]

I greatly enjoyed your video as always. as a reloader of many calibers, testing, hunting this is my proven 44mag loads the 180gr serria jhc and Hornaday 180gr xtp I have killed many deer and outher 4 legged undesirable creatures with. either bullet from 1000 to 1600-1700 fps is totally devastating on vital areas . I have 240 gr for dangerous game, hp and hardcast. my number 1 revolver I gave to my 40 year old daughter a rossi model 720 44 special 3 inch barrel with 180gr xtp at cronygraphed 950- 1000fps has wonderful expansion on animals. my Taurus tracker 44mag 4in barrel 180gr gr xtp 1350 fps 660 ish ftlb. I could load it hotter but at20 yds if I do my part shooting of hand 2 shot inside a inch. I think that's not bad being disabled, not as steady as once was, eyes same. this is also a devastating bullet at this speed. I would love a 44mag carbine lever rifle, even a good accurate single shot. for me the mentioned hp bullets has filled my freezer many times. papa wishing you well

[@DaddyHawksToyBox]

Been enjoying the content. I’m a fan of lever actions. If I’m going with an AR PCC, I’m going to want a 10mm.

[@roykiefer7713]

Another excellent video, thank you.

[@sharonrigs7999]

I would love a PCC in 7.5 FK once one becomes available. 7.5 FK is an ideal PDW cartridge since it matches the ballistics of a 18" barrel M1 Carbine, from a 6" barrel

[@terrell48]

I have Marlins in 357 and 44 both great carbine rounds the 357 is my favorite in addition three other levers Ilove are 22LR 22 WMR and a 25-20 win, love them all the rim fires are great choices for any application but the 357 is tops, my Ruger pic in 9mm is great

[@3wheelmannc860]

If $$ was no object, I would like a Big Horn in .460 and a S&W PC ported da/sa revolver in .460. Be nice to shoot .45 LC/.454/.460 in one set of tools. .357 and .44 Mag is very nice as you mentioned.

[@davehartman4350]

Thanks for the great info and videos

[@kennethkeefer9080]

Once again fantastic video

[@linkbond08]

357sig is best girl. My home defence is my AR 15 In the armory I have an AR shotgun with #4BK. 357sig is the truck gun, and a shield+ on my person. I don't dabble in pccs because if I'm gonna carry a 16" barrel I might as well throw a rifle cartridge in it, 300bk is a good carbine contender. That being said, the Smith & Wesson foldable carbine calls me, in 40sw I don't want 9mm anemia.

[@Kinetic.44]

Reloading with slow burning powder specially for longer barrels can really take a PCC to the next level. 10mm Auto has less case capacity than .45 Auto, a PCC using cut down .308 rifle brass aka .460 Rowland would be the ultimate. A high pressure rated .38 Super chambered carbine that can use cut .223 brass aka the Super Cooper 9mm, .357 Sig or 9x25 Dillon would be nice too for long range trajectory.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

I'll be doing a Super Cooper 9mm video this summer. Dick Heinie and I built a LW Commander using the .223 brass and I wrote an article on it for Handloader magazine (early 80's). Heinie credits my published "major" loads in the .38 Super for kicking off the .38 craze in IPSC/USPSA competition. Not my idea of a good carbine load, however. The .357 Mag will give MUCH better performance from a carbine barrel. Or even the .350 Legend in an AR.

[@Kinetic.44]

@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb awesome I'm really looking forward to it. There is so little information on it, almost no one knows it even exists. I think using rifle brass in your handgun is very impressive, it's literally next level stuff.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

@@Kinetic.44 Don't need to cut rifle brass anymore, when the USPSA crowd started using the .38 Super Starline Brass made a much stronger "Comp" case that won't blow out. I'll be trying some Winchester 9x23 brass in my .38 Super also. It is almost the exact same dimensions but is even stronger yet, basically .223 rifle brass with a 9mm head.

[@ralphcarroll5090]

The Marlin Camp Carbines at least the one I had in 9mm had the worst trigger on the planet. And in 1985 when it came out, I didn't even know to be a trigger snob. I just knew this trigger is bad. Research on the Web says the Marlin Camp 9 trigger pull weight out of the box could be from 7-12 lbs.

[@alancranford3398]

I thought that the Model 1927 Thompson semiautomatic submachine gun (with the original 10-inch barrel, converted from the Model 1921 Thompson submachine gun) was the first US semiautomatic carbine, and then there was the Reising Model 60 (with a legal-length 18-inch barrel). Both were marketed to police and factory guards to avoid machine gun paperwork. I did own a Universal 1003 carbine and both editions of the Marlin Camp Carbines. Had to shed them due to working overseas.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

I have never seen a Thompson 1927 or even heard of a Reising 60 ... not doubting your info, just pointing out how rare these items must be. The '27 from the current Auto Ordinance company is readily available in both .45 and 9mm now, but very expensive and heavy.

[@raghnallmacaodh3220]

Love my henry big boy 45 colt, set up with a skinner peep sight...

[@anthonykaiser974]

Mine is the Rossi R92 Scout in 45 Colt. It will handle "Ruger-only" loads. The only concern I have is the loose chamber. I only use Starline brass for that kind of ammo.

[@ericoverdorff8880]

I loaded some 44mag 240 grain coated swc with 24gr. H110. Was getting between 1800 and 1850fps with my 24inch 1894 lever.

[@bluesoverlord]

PCCs don’t make sense to me from a defensive perspective nowadays because you can get a small, light, AR platform in 300 BLK with a 9 inch barrel and still have room for a suppressor to save your ears inside in an emergency. Doesn’t mean I don’t have any PCCs though. I love them, especially the SP5….I mean, come on, Die Hard! However, in commie states the lever actions in .357 is the way to go. I think if you need a shorter PCC to stash in the truck, then a 10mm with a brace will be formidable. The three point stabilization can’t be overstated. Of course, I would never shoulder a brace. That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

[@steveferris663]

1892, 45 Colt, 20” bbl. OMG, plus 10 rounds!

[@grayman7208]

modern winchester 92 45 colt. trapper firing 45 colt +p loads. (example 325 grain bullet 1500 fps.) partnered with my ruger redhawk 45 colt.

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

CMMG makes very popular PCCs. The 45 Colt is my all time favorite cartridge for revolvers and lever action rifles; i.e. S&W 25-7 and Henry Big Boy X.

[@isaiahtafoya9972]

Another awesome video

[@larrygibson9273]

Thank you for going historical with the .44-40 & .30-40

[@dangerman007]

Kel Tec does make a Sub 2000 in the .40. The more I hear about PCCs, the more they do make sense for certain practical applications. Might have to pick one of these up soon.

[@chrisblake1918]

Yes KT made/makes the sub2000 in .40, I have one. Ad a Savage 99 in 30-30.

[@mwilson70201]

Look at all the experts responding to this video. You must be doing something right to provoke all these pros to diss it.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

It is still (barely) a free country. All opinions are welcome.

[@thebastard1958]

I'm old school also & agree w/u 100%. However I switched to 10mm, my ears could no longer take the crack of .357 or .44. You know as well as I, shoot either indoors & you may never hear again! My 10mm is a GP100 3" Wiley Clapp w/fully adjustable Novac night sights. My carbine is the lowly Hi-Point 10mm w/red dot & co-witness flip up sights, after 800rnds. of every bullet configuration imagined w/not 1 failure of any sort, that's good enough for me to stake my life on. It can be had in a lever gun, but you've got to supply a Marlin 1894(I think) $2k for the conversion. That takes about 2yrs.

[@hamspud35]

Heading to Reno tomorrow to pick up Ruger PCC 45 acp😀

[@Razor-gx2dq]

Cool

[@michaelnasser8697]

I would agree 💯 with your logic and thoughts on a PCC. However, seems like a bunch of “Meal team 6” guys disagree 😂

[@Cruiser777]

I love the Lever guns. I got 1866 Bicentennial 1966 Winchester 30-30 Golden boy. It's a beautiful rifle . That I don't want to shoot it😅 Thank you for the insights Like always.

[@raylauderback5126]

Another excellent presentation, Sir. Where do you feel that the 5.7x28MM round falls on the spectrum? Also, looking forward to the review of the 30WCF, one of my all-time favorite rounds!

[@bigal2696]

I am looking forward to lever action video

[@theoriginalOSOK]

Our country is in dire danger. Until we flush the deep state out of power, we will need to deal with the reality of a lack of police coverage. A good pistol caliber lever action is a great stop-gap. I highly recommend the Rossi R92's. Get .357 Mag chambered models if you want the most practical and economical to feed versions. The .357 Mag in a Rossi carbine is a force to be reckoned with.

[@user-sr9sl3df8l]

I HAVE A HENRY BIG BOY STEEL RECEIVER 44 MAGNUM TO GO WITH MY SUPER BLACKHAWK 44 MAGNUM.I WILL GET ONE IN 357 MAGNUM EVENTUALLY.GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS.

[@martinwalker9386]

Yes there was Kel-tech Sub 2000 in .40S&W.

[@merlemorrison482]

don't know if you are interested, but Hi Point makes a 380 and a 10mm carbine.-

[@Mrelindio42]

I am a big fan of the PCCs! Where they really shine is teaching new shooters how to shoot. The 9mm calibers are very low recoil and are accurate. All my grand kids love shooting them, not so much the .44 Mag. Much easier to train than with pistols/revolvers. Great video and history lesson! Where did you get the light mount for your .357? Thanks.

[@JR15A2]

Thanks for another top-quality video. Your knowledge and experience are valuable and appreciated. I've been a Glock and AR guy since the mid-80s. However, I recently bought a Henry Big Boy in .357 Magnum as a fun gun because it had a look and vibe I was drawn to. That thing is no joke. I was surprised by how hard it smacks steel and obliterates cantaloupes, watermelons, etc. I agree that people who live in oppressive authoritarian communist-controlled blue states should buy one as they are a way, way better alternative than a baseball bat or a sharp stick. It's too bad that .38 Special and .357 Magnum are so expensive, but it is what it is.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

I just loaded up a boatload of .357 Carbine ammo for some video projects, components I'd had sitting around for years, so no out-of-pocket costs, just a little time. If you want to shoot a lot you have to reload, and even that has jumped dramatically in prices. Let's get rid of Brandon!

[@garandm1d]

Great video. If, for whatever reason, you stick with iron sights, another mod is to look for tritium front & rear sights. Very unobtrusive, no battery, always on. Common sense is so uncommon.

[@destroyingdadxx2274]

Hi Dick, my favorite PCC is my Ruger 44 carbine. Why Ruger discontinued them is beyond my understanding. Fantastic guns. My only gripe with it is it has a tube magazine instead of a detachable box magazine. Keep up the great videos. Thanks.

[@cgsimons1187]

Ruger made two types of .44 Mag semi-auto carbines. My understanding is that the ones with the tube magazines tend to be more reliable than those with rotary magazines.

[@Really-AintBuyn-nit]

Last time I was shopping for revolver rounds inventory was low. .357 has been hard to find.

[@arapahoetactical7749]

Great video! I have an AR-9 and a Ruger PCC in 9mm, but I'd much rather use one of my .357 Magnum Lever Guns. I have a Winchester 1873 and a Rossi 1892. There is a company, Steve's Guns who produces a short rail for the Rossi M92 that replaces the Buckhorn sight. Under the sight are a series of threaded holes. I've mounted a small Holosun Reflex RDS there and there was enough rail left that I could mount an off set adapter to put a small pistol light on the side. It actually works quite well. One caliber you didn't mention was the .45 Colt. I have a Winchester 94 in .45 Colt. I've not run it across the chronograph yet but I can hit pretty well with it out to 100 yards though I'm still using the factory sights with it. Looking forward to your views on the .30-30.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

Does the Steve's Gun rail require drilling and tapping of the barrel?

[@subdawg1331]

I have a GP100 and a Henry rifle both in 357 mag

[@rogerray2545]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@michaelw2288]

Some of the 5.7 carbines use a simple lever delay. Compared to simple blowback, delayed actions are lighter in reciprocating weight and lighter charging spring. For little old ladies or people with hand/grip/strength issues. Apart from the MP5 do any 9mm PCC have delays ?

[@robertantolik2146]

Pistol caliber carbines are cool and fun to shoot. I've had several. It's fun to shoot a 9mm or .45acp at 100- 200 yards. But unless you have a .357 or better It's pointless nowadays. You can get an AR so cheap now that almost anyone can afford to have a decent rifle, sidearm and ammo for both. If it was 1850 then hell yeah it's awesome. If you're broke and inherited 2 firearms of the same caliber and you can barely afford ammo, heck yeah. If you're recoil sensitive maybe but an AR doesn't have much more recoil than a pcc

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

Like I said in the video, you can buy a cheap-parts AR for way less than half the price of a new lever action, but until SCOTUS bitch slaps a few blue states, some folks simply can't buy a semi-auto.

[@LUVDOGS1954]

hrfunk has a sub 2000 in 40 and previously did a video on it. His video on the recently released version premiers tomorrow.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

I just saw that pop up and will watch his review tomorrow.

[@davidhorsey7164]

Hi been thinking about 44m lever to teach 2 girls to shoot self defence bears etc when fishing but not sure maybe better off semi auto pcc n pistol maybe in 45acp their scared of recoil n noise will start them off on 22lr or air rifle im thinking of 45/70 henry lever for myself along with revolver n auto pistol in 44m or 1911 in 45 acp for same use but unsure of recoil due to 6 fractures in c7 neck vertebrae but may drop to 44mag henry too would find it interesting on your view if you have time ill be living in california or alaska maybe to clarify state laws cheers love your shows ps im an aussie so have no bear experience except research

[@44SWAGNUM-MAGA5]

have you done a video on the mini 14?

[@jamesvatter5729]

With the things you discuss, it makes me laugh hearing you get called "Fudd." Some folks' ideas of what a Fudd is simply crack me up. On a separate note, I wonder how many Brittanies have been named "Ginger?" I sure have seen my share!

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

She fits in perfectly with a family of redheaded humans ... same combative personality!

[@williamsohneiv-xm8sr]

We had a female chocolate lab. It was like her every breath and heart beat was just for us. Her name was guess what? Did you say Coco? Right!

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

@@williamsohneiv-xm8sr I had a black one named Pepper.

[@jdblackwell2873]

OK, we’ve done handguns and we’ve done carbines and no mention of the 5.7 x 28. I had mixed feelings about the caliber too. I want to like it. But the downloaded versions civilians can get are just not hot enough for that small mass to do a lot.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

I've had several inquiries about the 5.7 and I shot it in both the FN pistol and subgun not long after it came out (2002). I'm not impressed by its terminal performance, based on gelatin tests from people I trust. I will look around for one to borrow and try to do some testing.

[@k4vms]

Question what about S&W 500 Magnum and the S&W .460. I don’t know if there is a rifle for the .460 but there is for the 500. Ricky from IBM

[@dbmail545]

I know that it is not everyone's cup of tea but 5.7x28 makes a better PCC than a pistol cartridge. I have the Ruger but both my other PCC's are in 9mm only because that is my pistol caliber.

[@tacd962]

Sub 2000 gen 2 glock 23/22 mags 40S&W

[@MANDING0]

I choose 5.56 for home defense because it will go through soft body armor

[@stanswihart3524]

Do you have a hardcast load for the .357?

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

The only hardcast load I put together for my carbine was a 185 WFN Beartooth bullet loaded over 16.0gr of H110 - the load recommended by Marshall at Beartooth Bullets, but they are out of business now. My Browning carbines don't shoot cast bullets particularly well for some reason.

[@user-ci2mn1oy3w]

you can't shoot or intimidate anything with a gun you aint got with you. You've got to have 40 lbs of pack, food, water, ammo, sleep-shelter gear, clothing, armor, night vision, etc, So you aint going to have two longarms for shtf, guys. You aint got a crystal ball that can tell you when you wont have to fight. You can't get men or animals to WAIT while you go get "the right gun for the job", either. So you'll just have to always carry the most versatile longarm that is available and that's a shorty 223 AR with a silencer, night sights and 22lr conversion unit.

[@rogerwood5228]

You finished that book yet?

[@truckdaddy1957]

I probably know why but, no mention of Hi-point?

[@blackhawk7r221]

Their PCC is, well, a bit rough.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

I know guys who swear by the Hi-points as a great value, but I just can't bring myself to discuss them.

[@stinger4583]

I like my lever rifles. I've been wondering what happened to Bear Tooth Bullets. I have some of their cast .458 bullets and a ball cap. It's a shame they went out of business. I have to say, from experience, DO NOT buy a Hi-Point carbine. I had one in .45 acp. Horrible trigger and trying to get the mag out fast, forget it. I put maybe 75 rounds through it and sold it.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

Marshall Stanton at Beartooth Bullets has forgotten more about cast bullet accuracy than any three other experts. Sorry to see them go away. My buddy laid in a supply of 800 .432" 265 WFN before they went away, so I have a lifetime supply of bear loads for the Browning .44 carbine.

[@ChristopherEDenton-ol7pv]

I HAVE A ROSSI 24" LEVER ACTION 44 MAGNUM WITH BUFFALO BORE HARD CAST 340 GR. +P+ I'M GETTING 2072 FPS

[@chrisaycock6963]

You Never hear anything about a 41 Magnum. They've got so many different rounds of handgun ammunition it's not even funny. I'm not that into guns, but until around 15 years ago, I never heard of a 357 Maximum. I guess you have to be deep into guns to hear about these cartridges.

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

The .41 was very poplar in the '70-80's for both hunting and police use, but has fallen WAY off of late. The .357 Maximum was never a big deal, too long for almost all revolvers and not chambered in any carbines like lever actions.

[@RoadTraveler]

Bump

[@user-ci2mn1oy3w]

unless you add a silencer, night sights and a subsonic ammo OPTION, these things are pointless if you're an able bodied adult. Maybe grandma can do no better than a high point 9mm carbine with a laser, but everyone else is much better off with a shorty AR-15, 60 gr Nosler Partition softpoints, night sights, a silencer, a 22lr conversion unit, 1 in 9" twist, 10.5" skinny barrel, 60 gr Aquila subsonic ammo option, and normal 22's for snapshooting practice. Then you can swap parts to 22lr in 20 seconds (discretely) hold the bolt shut with your thumb, shooting left handed, execute a brain hit to 50m, and be BB gun quiet as you do so. Keep the AR in 223 firing 'mode" unless you see good reason to swap to the 22lr. If you need the gun swiftly, the odds are high that you also need the several times greater power, penetration and effective range of the 223 (as vs the subsonic 22). For me, that good reason would be that it's dark. At night, a silenced, subsonic 22lr autoloading rifle is not nearly the handicap that it is in daytime. A GOOD 223 silencer renders full power 223 ammo no louder than a normal 22lr rifle. and supersonic 'crack" is non-directional in nature. I've had a flock of turkeys at 40m of distance not take off when I harvested 3 of them with the suppressed 223 AR. Animals dont recognize sonic crack as being a threat and they often dont know which way to flee. Men dont know which side of a big tree is cover, either. This phenomenon is MUCH more true when you use the subsonic, suppressed 22lr.

[@rogerwood5228]

You should write a book, oh sage.

[@michaelnasser8697]

@@rogerwood5228😂😂😂

[@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb]

Quite a rig. Add a good thermal scope and you will OWN the night.

[@ricosuave7102]

To be honest with all of you. A revolver is far more powerful,reliable,and accurate than a semi automatic pistol. When you measure a barrel on a semi auto it includes the chamber. So if you get a so called full size pistol with a 4.250” barrel it’s really a 3.250” where as a revolver is what it measures out to be. The revolver cartridges are so much more versatile with many options and you can have a rifle and a pistol that can fire the same ammo. Also if you play it smart. Get some weapons chambered in less popular but still in demand with available stock like 45,357,10mm. If and when SHTF happens you won’t be stuck with needing the same ammo everyone else does.