Pistons Man-to-Man Defense - 2004 ECF Game 6 - 4th quarter

[@paulnguyen5157]

That 4th quarter final score can easily be the first-half score in today's NBA.

[@TheDignam]

It proved there is no Defense today.

[@Starias5]

The Grizzlies dropped 51 points in a quarter a few days ago..

[@r.a.6459]

I remember a scoreboard like this back in '05 1:47 SA 59 4th HOU 66 in today's NBA, this is what you'll see in the 2nd quarter.

[@r.a.6459]

@@Starias5 Just recently Warriors dropped *55* in 1st quarter en route to 157 pts against Blazers

[@bryantlee5716]

in most of times, it might less than the first half score of modern NBA teams. Toughness Era vs Softness Era

[@TheDignam]

Larry Brown and Sheed were clearly the missing pieces.

[@edwardfisher6764]

Imagine melo on that team instead of darko.. With tayshun prince as the 6th man.. Sheesh they would of had a mini dynasty..

[@chuboasshippo2181]

It wouldve been like the 09 nuggets team on steroids. God damn

[@dougfresh4454]

Even wade or bosh any of them would of been a tough 5 year stretch trying to beat Detroit

[@patewing5808]

You should see what Wallace said . They did not like Anthony on team

[@Terror832]

Tayshaun Prince was a far better defender than Melo could ever dream of. Which fit who the 2004 Pistons were. A defensive minded, team first unit.

[@spiidey1]

Do people really overestimate Melo's value this much? He was a selfish, ball dominant scorer who doesn't play defense from the day he entered the league. And Melo fans think he was going to fit into the selfess, defensive minded Pistons team? LMAO.

[@creydadj]

Man nowadays you’ll never see a low scoring game by the 4th qtr

[@TheSands83]

Thomas Sankara it has to do with the nba not allowing players to actually play hard nosed defense... it would b low scoring again all those 3s wouldn’t matter

[@lanzleanillo2911]

TJ Martin These days that can be a 1st quarter score

[@sherwinpoh5684]

Yeah it just turned out that most fans are casuals that much prefer offensive showreels over defensive grinds.

[@sherwinpoh5684]

Also, having three point snipers all around makes it hard to double and help as aggressively as the 04 pistons. They'll just get shot down by snipers.

[@davidjackson9680]

@@sherwinpoh5684 yeah and the fact that steph curry made people want to shoot way more threes and it kinda killed off the big man until recently there were a lot of factors besides the fans the nba was the one who wanted the pace to go back to the 80s where they averaged only 2 points less then today

[@paletangitau1247]

The Pacers year was 2005 but the Malace at the Palace happened. And alot of Pacers took year long suspensions.

[@yulintsai562]

If this Pistons team has 1 more dominant scorer, I'd pick them to beat the Warriors. But the scorer has to be dominant cuz you're not getting offense from anywhere else

[@commandershepard1838]

If you take what okur became then they might have enough scoring. Not that he was a star, but he didn’t reach his peak until Utah.

[@yuyu175]

Could’ve had Melo 🤦‍♀️

[@officialmightynotoriousaka3897]

The underdog Detroit Pistons eliminate Jermaine O'Neal-led favored Indiana pacers in a sluggish 6gms,as the Pistons headed to the NBA finals for the first time in 14 yrs since 1990🏆🏆🏆

[@rodeliobersojr.5602]

Final score 69. Teams will get it by halftime in today's nba.

[@templetonbob]

Nice.

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

Good defense or bad offense? You make the call

[@Adam-vs2in]

They used to play defense back then.

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

No that was bad offense.

[@Adam-vs2in]

@@chrisuncleahmad666 nope. They just aren’t running the court like it’s a playground chucking up shots every 10 seconds. Nice try.

[@Adam-vs2in]

@@chrisuncleahmad666 ffs you just confirmed the defense I was talking about.

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

@@Adam-vs2in Sorry if 75-70 games were not my cup of tea. The game was way too unbalanced in favor of defenses

[@DSrDavis-tq9qp]

This was 🔥 to watch not a super team , like in today's NBA. Bc the league was balance. Kinda like the 90's the best times of watching the NBA. Today games is trash 🗑️ not all the players but the style and load management ect. It gets no play on my TV, I prefer to read a book.

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

Balanced? Everything was unbalanced in favor of the defense back then

[@detsportsfan18]

Back when the league was watchable, good times!

[@17thN.O]

Ream basketball!

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

69-65 scores were not watchable

[@detsportsfan18]

@@chrisuncleahmad666 They were, cause actual defense was being played, rather than today's product of see who can outscore the other without playing defense.

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

@@detsportsfan18 actual offense was not being played

[@detsportsfan18]

@@chrisuncleahmad666 That's what happens when it's met with actual defense.

[@creydadj]

I wonder how Reggie Miller will rank the defenses of the 88-91 Pistons, 90s Knicks and Bulls, then this Piston team

[@blackreign3138]

Great question bro. I would have to say the defense the 04 Pistons, but as far as toughest teams to play? It has to be the bad boys, HOF’ers everywhere, iconic team. Reggie was a none factor in those days.

[@joshlewis6249]

Title of this video should just be "WAR"

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

Wrestling disguised as basketball

[@tehDanielRuiz]

There's one thing modern players definitely have over those from previous generations. Today's players definitely can handle and shoot the ball at an incredible rate, from positions 1 through 5. The skillset is constantly innovating and evolving. But one thing they absolutely do not have is defensive IQ. Very few teams are able to properly perform triple or even quadruple rotations, or even get leave themselves vulnerable on the first rotation, but only for the help helper to clean up around the rim. Today's players can't even guard 1v1, although credit to the on-ball skill level being at an all-time high. However, the fundamentals just aren't there anymore. They cheat way too much and then try to bail themselves out by reaching around the back to try and back-tap the ball to a teammate. They take themselves out of position for a secondary rotation and it's honestly frustrating to watch. For me, Draymond Green for the Warriors from 2015-2019 was a treat to watch. His defensive IQ was gaps ahead his peers and the way he would QB the Warriors' rotations defensively was just a masterclass on most nights. Jarrett Allen is another guy who, IMO, doesn't get enough respect defensively. His movement defensively, for someone his height, as a help defender, is often smooth. He's definitely a throwback where he ends up being the guy having to clean up at the rim when the rotations get triggered and the ball ends up at the low block or a baseline drive/dunker position. He always challenges at the rim and never cares about being postered or caught in a viral video highlight that may travel the internet (unlike 80% of big men nowadays).

[@ExilixE]

going under the screen would NEVER work in today's game against Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and KD Warriors. Curry would constantly shoot from half-court forcing the pistons to double at half court then Klay and KD would be Wide open

[@Kingdoscuatro]

Man to man defense??? More like a zone defense 😂

[@youtuber3328]

the 04 pistons won it all not facing legends like jerry west larry bird magic johnson michael jordan kareem abdul-jabbar oscar robertson wilt chamberlain and bill russell

[@commandershepard1838]

Reggie Miller was 6’7 185.....Can he bench a box of tissues?

[@TheSands83]

Bench?😂 muscles ! Splash! Dummy

[@sacramentokingswillrise7525]

*195 lbs

[@sacramentokingswillrise7525]

Well Corey Brower is 6'9 and 185 lbs

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

This is why the rules got changed. Nobody wanted to watch this. It's awful basketball. in six games, a team only scored 80 or more points THREE TIMES in that series. It wasn't great defense, it was exploitation of the rules and crappy basketball.

[@chicagobullsfan03]

Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot it's way better than the product right now.

[@fabolousninenine30]

I would love to see that basketball again. I love that defense.

[@MrTaylorAries]

What? Bro no one wants to see everyone act like the warriors are unbeatable...all you have to do is okay actual defense....like this and you can make the game more diverse in match ups and not every team tries to learn run and gun...before when Phoenix did it no one valued it but the warriors got the team that could run and gun and now no one plays defense so it's easy to see why they out run people but that's less fun than teams actually knowing the opponent and matching up and having to work for points and fg percentages.....this was the grind game...this is also why the east was strong but once the league changed to shooting focus the east died..the best defensive teams are all dead eastern conference teams today...the league killed it's own diversity...the east had the Celtics the pistons and the bulls...the pacers the nets and the knicks were always good too but these teams played major defense....the rules change and these teams died because everyone can't rely on shooting

[@JayJay413GamerBasedKamiGuru]

They really let them play. 2004 was the most physically demanding year in NBA history.

[@ASAManifesto]

Can you explain what rules are being exploited here? All I see is great defense.