Pixar Theory: How The Incredibles Got Their Powers

[@dementedsagittarius]

There's a deleted line in incredibles where syndrome basically says "You had kids? Supers aren't supposed to breed." This would be a good piece of evidence for the theory too.

[@el1mmorto]

Cool one

[@TrueLimeyhoney]

Problem with using deleted lines as evidence is because they might've deleted then because they don't fit the lore they were thinking of.

[@sparkfn729]

dementedsagittarius so he would think dash violet and jack jack were adopted?

[@bowenratter241]

Reckless Spark that’s not what he means he means that it would suggest they are being made by the government as they have been told they are not supposed to have children as it was previously unknown what would happen

[@chriscross1214]

Chelsea Blair just like how in The Incredible Hulk film there was a deleted scene where Bruce (The Hulk) tried to commit suicide by shooting himself in the mouth by “the other guy’ (The Hulk obviously) spit it out, which was then reference in the Avengers. My point is that the deleted scenes in movies are still a part of the film but just wasn’t shown in it!

[@badlydrawnturtle8484]

I always had the impression that superpowers in that universe followed the concept of mutants in Marvel: It's genetically inherited.

[@jerrytomas3136]

If you watched the video, he goes over this.

[@badlydrawnturtle8484]

Jerry Tomas “Genetic experiments that become inheritable” isn't really the same thing as “naturally occurring genetic superpowers”.

[@unasantos3161]

if it was genetically inherited then at least four people would have to been given a 'super gene'

[@Protectobot]

ACTUALLY, in Marvel Comics, the Celestials created mutants on Earth via experiments by randomly implanting the original humans of the world with the X gene, and mutant offspring sometimes inherit the affected X gene, which is otherwise dormant in non-mutant humans.

[@Ked7]

@@Protectobotthat is no longer true. Now it is a previous species breeding with humans

[@lianicole6456]

Childbirth would have been pretty damn easy for elastagirl

[@THFC23]

Lia Nicole oh my god your right!

[@Daisy-fg3xn]

Lia Nicole true 😂

[@ajdenneboom]

True

[@13vatra]

"Oh shit! I felt the first contractions!" *streeeetch* After picking the child up of the floor the doctor says "It's a girl!"

[@inthediamondsky]

Lia Nicole LOL I could just imagine her pretending to struggle so the doctors don't think anything weird is going on.

[@hopetaylor523]

Mr.Incredible- has incredible strength Elastigirl- bends like elastic Violet- ultraviolet light she turns invisible Dash- dashes (duh) Jack jack- jack of all trades. He has all powers

[@stelladestino100]

I mean that doesn't explain exactly why jack jack has multiple powers when every other super introduced only has one but it is a pretty good theory

[@stelladestino100]

adding on, we don't know how many powers jack jack has but even in trailers we are finding out new ones

[@eldersprig]

shrinking violet - she turns invisible

[@cosicreativecool9506]

Hope Taylor I only thought about the dash one

[@PoissonVisageStudios]

Except the jack of all trades saying is a shortened version of: "jack of all trades; master of none", whereas Jack-Jack seems incredibly powerful

[@thevagabond7388]

I actually have a theory about why the kids have invisibility/force shield and super speed. Mr. Incredible has super strength, so super strong genes, and Elastigirl has super elastic ones, so when combined you get: -Invisibility: with cells so elastic they basically stretch so much they let light through but strong enough to get back to normal -Super Speed: with Dash's legs being super strong so they can move really fast but also with flexibility so they don't burn when going fast It's dumb, but hey it's what I find a reasonable explanation q:

[@emailnolongerinuse3157]

First Name Surname i agree!

[@dashiefiles]

I kind of thought that too.

[@paul-allenholland6631]

It is not a dumb theory It is actually a smart theory

[@baileythewitchofvoid8784]

But how are Violet's force fields made?

[@erickamijangos111]

That's a really good theory there my friend

[@erinidum]

Added evidence: There's a deleted opening scene where Syndrome invades the Incredibles' home soon after Violet is born and when Syndrome discovers that the Incredibles had a kid, he wags his finger at Mr. Incredible and says, "you're breaking the law, Mr. Incredible. You know Supers aren't supposed to breed." If your theory is correct, this implies that the government knew the super gene could be passed on once activated and enacted a law that prevented that from happening...probably for crowd control and so there weren't any unchecked and untrained Supers running around. After the Supers retired, the government could have backed off on that law, allowing Supers to breed as long as their powers were kept secret or something.

[@MCSDD]

I would love to see this scene

[@adriannethornheart8516]

+Maya Tamika (krazykookoobird) I can't click it did it get deleted?

[@isaiasmartinez1124]

+Diana XD He just didn't copy and paste it

[@jacktaylor6155]

ooooo I got chills

[@albadelgado6751]

They should've kept that in the actual movie, they fact that supers are not supposed to breed ._.

[@hannahtaylor3698]

I'd like to see an update to this theory. The new supers introduced in the sequel make me question a few things. Some seem young enough to have been children when the supers were still public (yes, possibly children of previous supers) and some have foriegn accents which suggests they were brought together from around the globe and not all American. So were several countries doing this and possibly experimenting on children?

[@GT-wj3gl]

Actually Frozone mentions that he discovered his powers when he was a kid. A few of the voice files from the interviews of the Supers even mention that they knew about their powers since they were kids or teens. I think it's always been genetic.

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

Is the Government behind the Supers???

[@abril561]

+SuperCarlinBrothers What about the villain in the end of the movie? That seems to be a Super villain

[@starreacher9783]

+SuperCarlinBrothers could you make a video about how all the disney movies are connected. I'm a big fan of your work and really want to see you make video about the theory

[@kurthopkins6892]

Seems 100% legit to me.

[@cassidydingman9839]

it makes sense I mean in Captain America you see that it is possible to give one super powers

[@thelolman9019]

+SuperCarlinBrothers Great Theory

[@LoreleiMission]

The first position you take in this video is incorrect. The reason society didn't come to pieces after all the supers retired, is because a lot of supers continued to do their thing undercover. The first movie not only shows the guys-night-out where they are sneaking around doing super rescues in secret, but also implies that the reason Syndrome was able to locate and lure dozens of supers was because his staff could sneak around at night and spot lots of supers doing their thing under cover of darkness.

[@Mirrorcomics24]

Yeah no you don’t know this so don’t say it’s incorrect say you think it’s incorrect

[@elijahblechman8633]

@Bunny Bob maybe they just had to deal with it

[@thevagabond1314]

Well apparently Frozone discovered his power when he froze some juice when he was thinking of a popsicle, so if Frozone and Mr Incredible are pretty close to age, how can he they have gotten their superpowers by the government if he only found out about his powers then when he was thinking about that popsicle, plus he probably would've only have been a child

[@thevagabond7388]

The Vagabond you again?!

[@Theholyspiritamen]

He was like a toddler

[@thevagabond7388]

The Vagabond man why do i see u everywhere

[@icynishia1723]

They could've done it while they were babies. Maybe raise them and train them on the best way to use their powers. Just a theory.

[@rj_ricky9499]

this is for icyinisha another female super known as psychwave said that her powers manifested in high school so that logic is flawed

[@ancapftw9113]

1) Syndrome's a super genius. It's just not an obvious power so he doesn't realize he's a super. 2) They could Freeze his assets because Mr. incredible figured out his real name. 3) the US isn't the only country with supers.

[@hauntedalley8892]

What other countries have supers?

[@ancapftw9113]

@@hauntedalley8892 in the incredibles 2 they show several other supers from other countries.

[@hauntedalley8892]

AncapFTW What kinds of powers do they have?

[@ancapftw9113]

@@hauntedalley8892 not sure. Crusher had a strong accent, so he's probably from another country. Other than that, they just showed them standing with representatives from their countries.

[@Aylamags]

J: "The government created the super heroes" Me: "that's what the government wants you to believe"

[@MadiMae_]

I was just watching the Pixar theory for the 183828388382 time and I go back to the play list and say "oh I don't remember this one" and I click on it and realize, oh snap just uploaded!!! I love all of your videos!!! I love this it makes so much sense!

[@conparker3190]

Same!

[@jackspendo1034]

+Madison Maestas same!!

[@ZiroWatt]

Yep, SCB are awesome and so is pixar

[@brian_meaney]

+Emerald Not cool

[@weswarford8494]

+Rene Donnes that is pretty weird.

[@badgerscorner8529]

I always just assumed that powers were genetic and when syndrome killed all the supers, they just kind of disappeared, but this theory makes a little more sense

[@aceofspades1324]

Spoiler alert Is anyone seeing this after they see incredibles 2 and think about the random supers who are just there (most likely not made by the government)

[@varinsawh6634]

shoraly pettelia yeah they were too shy too com forward and were attracted to deftechs mission to reintroduce supers and even heroic success

[@adriancruz3240]

shoraly pettelia I agree with you

[@percy5950]

Yeah but Maybe the random supers were children of the government supers idk

[@triconthesuperior4555]

shoraly pettelia all of the supers on the second movie are new hero’s which the government didn’t make they weren’t in the bonus disk

[@serpenslestrange1126]

@@triconthesuperior4555 Maybe other countries governments made their own as well.

[@ramonaray4307]

If the theory is right and they got their powers from the government, that adds so many more layers to the metaphor of the Incredible, turning Mr. Incredible's story into the familiar story of "The Soldier that has trouble readjusting to life after the war." Among countless other metaphors I'm sure people can find within the context of the theory.

[@selenedaqueen7069]

+Ramona Ray still better than batmam vs superman, just kidding i liked that movie but i feel like they're similar :)

[@aqilaalubis]

+Selene Da Queen What's batmam vs superman?

[@Eluminasis]

What war? Maybe there WAS a war the Supers were fighting but after it ended they folded into stopping crime and then that was cancelled too. Maybe Mr. Incredible is a veteran of a war and policing the streets. I'd be bored and pissed too.

[@aliceroxcullen98]

It's a metaphorical war (on crime).

[@havocthehorror]

But Frozone said he discovered his powers when he was about 2 years old

[@insanedragongirl]

Azurill Ethan Was I’ve seen several comments saying that, what’s the reference?

[@misseli1]

insanedragongirl It's a reference to the old timey interview clip that appears at the beginning of the first film. But who knows, maybe that comment could have been a red herring.

[@CaptainSuzySparrow]

So, Frozone has superpower parents?

[@spadeishere5267]

Huh

[@imjustaguy4340]

There culd be a mutent

[@DarthSass]

since the Incredibles is the only movie in which we don't see the Pizza Planet truck, and there's merchandizing, could it be possible that the Incredibles is actually just comic book characters in the Pixar universe?

[@morganhanshaw9673]

Adam Taurus like your profile picture it's pretty HANDy 😉

[@youngjim2]

Redo this video with incredibles 2 info

[@megumi6499]

One of the best theories out there. And also, sweat patches.

[@eilidhbrodie3893]

Hahaha ... Sweat patches🙃

[@emmakenyon1967]

Why you don't look at the comments before watching a video 😂

[@mariasolano4843]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@mariasolano4843]

I have that problem doee 😐😕😒😭😑

[@erinkarls502]

I was about to comment that lol!

[@jadeedwards3624]

but couldn't the supers have gotten their powers and then betrayed the government and became evil thus becomeing super vilins?

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

+pie is pro perhaps but of course the gov would know who they are based on their powers, either way even though that COULD happen.. it doesn't! ...At least as far as we know and what we see in the movie

[@jordanjohnson89]

remember that the second movie has been confirmed. we may see some villains there

[@IloveADVENTURE123]

Maybe part of the training training and test they might have had to pass made sure there was no possibility of them going rouge. Like maybe training their minds to think a certain way (brainwashing). Besides if this was a super secret government project they would have picked people that they could control.

[@thepopulargirl1784]

+pie is pro If they did create/train them. It would be plausible to say that they know how to deal with rouge supers. Like they have all their strengths and weaknesses on file.

[@tnecniw]

+Ben Perezoso agreed, BATMAN style :3

[@Coolkc456]

I feel like this theory could have been from BEFORE the Incredibles family, maybe the grandparents or something. Pixar mentioned Frozone discovered his powers when he froze a glass of juice when thinking of his favorite flavor. That means he was not given his superpowers by the government (otherwise he would have known about his powers). But what if the Incredibles' parents were given superpowers and then the gene was passed down eventually to Mr. and Mrs. Incredible and then they were recruited by the government?

[@angelal.817]

That could be true.

[@Darkwolfala7]

+Coolkc456 I can see this. We don't really know WHEN the supers appeared or what generation they were.

[@genericaction]

All of the Supers have different powers. So Frozone could have discovered his abilities post super serum while thinking about his favourite flavour.

[@chavewrig9462]

the way that film was shot it looked and was stylized it seemed more like government propaganda than an actual account of how he gained his abilities.

[@temetriusbrown50]

that actual makes more sense

[@CheshireCatNY]

Best theory I’ve heard about the incredibles yet honestly. One additoval detail that fits your theory is that in the original script, there was a subplot about how it was made illegal for supers to procreate. This could be because as you said, lack of proper training and discipline would make them a threat and could also explain why in the super agency audio files bonus content, Frozone describes his powers first manifesting by age 2. He was the first case of two supers having a child also with powers and causing the government to crack down on it. Jack Jack is another prime example of a clearly over powered risk factor; very reminiscent of Franklin Richards, the son of Reed Richards and Sue Storm of the Fantastic Four (who the Incredibles were CLEARLY based on) who in early childhood manifested powers to literally manipulate reality itself by sheer force of will; a veritable living god.

[@bunniz]

5:20 You must have put a lot of effort into this video if you are sweating in it. Good video man.

[@alwayswrong1396]

I just saw that and went to comments 😂

[@axport_]

+Jay GG yea same hahaha

[@kevl4n109]

hah lol just noticed

[@kayfabrin2842]

Yeah i saw that too

[@minnie7068]

bahahahhah so true

[@SirPonnd]

Yeah, that theory is pretty solid.

[@christinagutierrez4189]

Agree

[@mad4song01]

+Laake White Worthy for a sequel, maybe?

[@SirPonnd]

+mad4song01 Like, a sequel theory or a sequel movie? Cause I wish Pixar wouldn't milk their series.

[@mad4song01]

Laake White Well, for a sequel movie. As for milking it, it already has been (an Incredibles sequel has already been planned). However, if they're going to do that, it wouldn't hurt that this be the idea to expand upon, because it genuinely is interesting to consider.

[@SirPonnd]

+mad4song01 Well, yeah, I mean, I've always kind of suspected them to have ties with the government. At least the wife, because of the guy that lent her the jet. I don't remember exactly who he was, but I'm pretty sure he was part of the air force or something.

[@boxofawkwardness]

Its not much of a theory, but rather more of a curious question. When Mr.Incredible is looking through the lists of supers on the island, you see the supers and the prototypes. Some supers take down their first prototype, but die by the next. My question is what supers kill prototypes 8,7,6,5, and 3, and also, what was their superpowers

[@tommyblade8093]

Danny Mcalister didn't their powers showed at that scene? Right under their photo

[@mr_gamesverse]

Oh ya

[@legallypumpkin]

Syndrome: and when everyone's super.... nobody is All might: ya sure about that?

[@ironicanimations]

AliBugK *izuku is hiding behind All might* xD

[@loyaltheoristgirl1018]

Let me explain. When everyone is a super, no one can be because they dont rely on each other for saving anymore, which means, so heroes OR supers (I ddint know how to explain really)

[@mareebee7046]

Loyal Theorist Girl 101 yeah! Here is my version: when he says “nobody is” it means that when everyone is super, no one is, because once everyone is, no one is special,

[@loyaltheoristgirl1018]

@@mareebee7046 thats a much better explanation haha Im bad at explaining lol

[@rebeccah5380]

The way my parents described this is if everybody has superpowers, then having superpowers isn't special anymore because everybody has superpowers.

[@nicholascoulter3760]

5:20 all I saw was the sweat in his armpit for some reason

[@hyperrversal_9903]

Nicholas Coulter same

[@Marqkus]

Nicholas Coulter same

[@chloepost8207]

Nicholas Coulter same

[@TopTop-ho6el]

Nicholas Coulter same I literally came to the comments just to see if others noticed

[@Marqkus]

TopTop23 Me too

[@jacob2359]

Here's an idea: The Super Hero program started by the government in the movie was actually a response to the Communist rise during the Cold War that would have occured during that time period. The villains are actually the Soviet response to the Super Hero program, however the soviets couldn't recreate the super abilities. Thus the soviets fund non-super groups to counter the Supers through non-direct means: Espionage, Guerilla Warfare, and Terrorism. After the fall of the Soviet Union (1980's) the supers return to America as there is no country left to fight with the over-kill of super hero's. With the fall of the Soviet Union people like Bomb Voyage, an individual who apparantly has tangled with Mr. Incredible on multiple occasions and has gotten away frequently enough (Due to soviet anti-hero training?) these agents run rampant and the hero's are used to tamp down the massive jumps in crime during the late 1980's crime rate hikes. Now Mirage never specified what govt. funded them. Or that they even told the truth. How likely is it that Syndrome, a non super, was funded by the remnants of Communist regimes across the world to continue to pursue the Super Powers program now that they have eliminated all the hero's who had ensured the initial fall of Communism? Or that they simply re-initiate the arms race with the militarized ICBM styled robots used to invade America?

[@bruiser3176]

jacob archer wow, that is a great theory

[@joeelliott9305]

TO LONG DIDN'T READ

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

the soviet union didn't fal intill 1991

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

also i beleive the movie is set in the 70s/80s when the kids are kids

[@ricksmith6637]

sounds good

[@aussie_mantis3507]

in the pixar theory, it says that the incredibles is set in the 1960s. what happened in circa 1960? (fanfare) The Cold War, and therefore the Cuban Missile Crisis so my theory is that the two Superpower of America (see what I did there? ;) ) created the supers by giving superpowers to the best Secret Service agents and Special Forces soldiers to use them as spies behind enemy lines to A: Distract communist guerillas at home and abroad, and eliminate high-ranking officials in Communist goverment parties (e.g. Communist governmets and Communist left-wing parties abroad in places like Europe or Asia) deemed a threat to America, or eliminate specific communist guerilla/parties through the use of stealth (explaining why Mrs and Mr incredible can see the same weaknesses in an enemy's structure, and can infiltrate a heavily defended base) B: as spies c: as a mobile, highly trained special forces squadto assist the army if a full scale war broke out but since the cuban missile crisis ended, and america never had to go to war. the supers were kept as a squad, but in order not to go rusty and forget how to use their powers, the american government authorised them to fight crime. and that's my take on this theory.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

bomb voyage is french, the french had a very large communist party, thus he could have been a communist agent sent to destroy america's capitalist system (the banks)

[@jlgmail1580]

and Mr. Incredible's tech and the spy music in the movie

[@tobycurtis1630]

Wow

[@aiieeee5166]

This sounds almost like a child’s explanation of something they partly understand - what if the backstory is a child whose parents explained politics of the time to him, playing with toys

[@aiieeee5166]

That would make The Incredibles all toys, who can wake up and not age - explaining why the second movie is set so far in the future from the first but they haven’t aged

[@mbjd2k]

I found the special number! The room Mr. Incredible gets after coming to defeat the robot

[@mitspeithetc]

Marybeth Steil A113

[@matthewstahl2487]

@@mitspeithetc A113 is the same code Pixar gives in the movie WALL-E. 😁

[@leonielson7138]

I was writing notes for a story that involves as government program called "The Revolving Door Club". The concept is that the United States Government actually employs 'super-criminals' to keep the heroes using their powers for the side of 'good'. The main character is the grandson of a 'super-criminal' who was killed under mysterious circumstances, and over the course of the story he discovers that one of the greatest superheroes has gone rogue and is killing members of the Revolving Door Club.

[@ladyalfhildrforestofvioletmist]

+Leo Nielson Oo, that sounds intriguing! If/when you get it published, let me know!

[@BriEva13]

+Leo Nielson Me too!

[@danieldellamarine1363]

Yes please!

[@avolvox]

"Some kind of registration act that the supers have to participate in." Sounds familiar...

[@thomaspieralisi830]

Cough cough Civil War cough cough

[@silashenderson1628]

I understood that reference...

[@luke_girardi]

I understood THAT reference :p

[@silashenderson1628]

+A Sad Carrot ;)👏👏👏

[@arwenlua2762]

HARRY POTTER! Am I the only one that remembers the Muggle-Born Registration Commission?

[@Iamsnuggles]

I'm learning in my political science class that that in times of emergency the government can freeze all the accounts of any person who is an American citizen.

[@Iamsnuggles]

+Ryan McGrath there is the national security act that gives the federal government mores powers. while these laws were being signed Congress passed an act that grants permission in times of emergency to get a court order to freeze any organization or persons bank account. The government can do this any time now because of the Bush administration lobbying for more powers due to 9/11 and wanted to make sure that they could stop potential threats from inside the US from obtaining an resources.

[@Iamsnuggles]

+Trevor Eisnaugle www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=generationopportunity.org/articles/2015/04/09/new-restrictions-announced-on-when-the-government-can-seize-your-bank-account/&ved=0ahUKEwjKl5aDlqzOAhUY8GMKHQXeCRkQFggtMAQ&usg=AFQjCNEQArdS0q_IePEplP-rsdgimckIdA&sig2=9Hrj-mIaAa2VjHLSikXYZg one of my sources.

[@Iamsnuggles]

+Ryan McGrath It's not Unconstitutional if the Constitution was amended. You may think that it's over stepping the boundaries but it is beneficial. A lot of people think so, I'll try to find that wensite my teacher said it was on. It stated that 9/10 think the government should freeze criminals bank accounts if they are wanted by police or present a danger to our communities. I don't a criminal able to access their bank account because he could use that to purchase a weapon. I do read into my laws. I am a firm believer in that the Constitution was ment as a beging piece and that it should be amended when it has to so it can fix problems at that point in time.

[@chrisschoenthaler5184]

They would still need to have some access to his accounts, or at least know exactly what to look for. This guy was operating from a private island and supposedly working with other governments. How did they manage to freeze all of his assets within a couple of hours?

[@JROCSKINNIEZ]

Idk about this. Cause frozone got his powers when he was a kid.

[@sirhatford2799]

jay Nificent from?

[@mitspeithetc]

SirHatford When he was thinking of a popsicle, his juice turned into ice.

[@miracleschmidt4342]

@@mitspeithetc But like FROM where? That's when he knew, not where he got it.

[@lindenlynx]

Source?

[@dog-md7wh]

i mean the government could have given it to him when he was a kid or he could have super parents like violet and dash,- he could be second generation super, his parents being the first of the first "experiments"

[@janetheunfunnylawstudent8181]

So the government wanted to get rid of the supers and funded syndrome to do it but he went rouge

[@silverandexact]

Yup, he was strawberry blonde when they hired him but then he dyed his hair red. He went rouge.

[@milliea4524]

Jane Hurley u spelt rogue wrong

[@TheEternalPheonix]

So, he went red but in French? for some reason? Why would he do that?

[@bravanator551]

Shooting Star Studios "spelled"

[@angeladavidson2350]

ROGUE

[@ibannash]

If dash, jack jack, and violet got their powers genetically, then why are their powers different from their parents powers? Shouldn't these abilities be similar or completely the same.

[@greendayfangirl1000]

maybe its random like the x gene from the xmen?

[@ibannash]

Sara Brock Maybe so. I guess it would be kinda boring if their powers were the same as their parents.

[@averyhowellsims7963]

There's a video explaining this. It talks about what JackJack power will be and why Dash and Violet have the powers they have.

[@ibannash]

Avery Howell Sims Wats the video called?

[@averyhowellsims7963]

The Incredibles Conspiracy | The Super Power Theory by Jon Solo

[@Connor_Tyler]

Part of the bonus features on the first Incredibles DVD was a database on all the supers mentioned in the movie, and each one had a little bio, some personal details, and a short audio file from the super in question. Frozone mentions that he discovered his powers when he was a kid, when he had a glass of Kool Aid and "really wanted a Popsicle". So, what? Did the government give Frozone ice powers when he was a little kid just on the off chance he wanted to be a superhero when he grew up?

[@TheJuicebear]

It could be possible that the kids don't have any knowledge of the Supers being authorized and controlled by the government.

[@theepicoutdoors6418]

How do we know the underminer doesn't have powers

[@ironicanimations]

the epic outdoors the powers of a mole owo

[@zerox8413]

Underminer probably brother of Moleman 😂😂😂

[@oobs-gamingandmore4249]

Also, he doesn't have powers in Incredibles 2.

[@Cheeseanonioncrisps]

Y'know... When Bob loses his job and that government agent has to help him relocate, it sounds like a pretty lengthy and expensive process. If we're assuming that each superhero family has their own escort and that they also have trouble controlling themselves (which is pretty likely, they've gone through extensive training and have been in enough bad situations to give them all PTSD- its unlikely that they just switched that part of themselves off and settled down into suburban life) that's got to be costing the government loads of money- and, seeing as they're breeding, it's going to keep costing them loads of money until the superhero gene has been fully bred out. So, if somebody offered to get rid of them and replace the whole superhero experiment with machines that could be switched off when you didn't need them, why wouldn't they jump at the chance? At no point does suit guy say "hey Bob! A lot of my colleagues have had their superhero clients vanish- watch out for that!"

[@lewisaino]

Also one of the Supers who was fighting for Heroes' right went missing

[@LP3Customs]

What if in The Incredibles 2 the villain is a child of a former superhero. They wouldn't have been given the powers, they would be born with them.

[@JetKusanagi]

What if the government DID fund Syndrome on purpose? What if they realized that the super hero program was a mistake and secretly wanted Syndrome to just eradicate all of the supers?

[@afrahe3718]

"Like brining a gun to a pillow fight" Me: wait normal people don't do that it's only me?!

[@misseli1]

This is your MOST SOLID theory yet!

[@reneelaicecreamxx4179]

Avengers: Age of Ultron: Hills: He's fast and she's weird. Sounds very familiar. *cough* Dash and Violet *cough*

[@illumaQ]

Hmmm, I thought that Frozone got his powers because Elsa was his ancestor, I still like my theory.

[@d0themath284]

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[@andyrivas6307]

Quentin Livezey frozen isn't a Pixar movie so they wouldn't be in the same continuity

[@chocolatesugar-lovage9678]

Quentin Livezey Frozone has ice powers because he's "cool"! 😁

[@TristanHands]

hate to break it to you, but Frozone is black... Elsa is white. You see what I'm getting at?

[@neutralfaceemoji]

Subo 😐

[@SpeedySecrets215]

Can you talk about the exact powers violet and jack jack has? Cuz most people say that they are the only ones who are special and have multiple powers, but I think it's a core power? I always thought violet-ultraviolet- controlling the tangibility of light Jack jack - jack of all trades - mutation? Literally able to shift everything about himself, size weight temperature etc? Idk I'm interested to hear your opinion on this ☺️☺️

[@jgh4100]

Isn’t it weird how Edna made JackJack’s suit perfect for his powers before they even realised he had them? In that same scene Helen says “JackJack doesn’t have any powers.”

[@maya-zn3jj]

J, why did the government choose Mr. Incredible, Elastigirl, and Frozone to be the superheroes? Were they working for the government before? What happened to make THEM the Supers?

[@youngdontai5389]

Bubbles MK maybe the people can only be super if they have a certain gene or trait

[@jadenbanfield8084]

But what about mr. Incredibles famous line: heroes aren't made they're born?

[@DaltonHBrown]

the point you made about genetics is substantiated in a cut scene where Syndrome attacked the house with Bob and Helen, and Violet when she was a baby. Syndrome says "You are breaking the law Mr. Incredible. You know supers aren't supposed to breed."

[@ssjbubbims3114]

+Dalton Brown I don't remember that in the movie, can u provide some proof?

[@ssjbubbims3114]

+SSJ Bubbims nvrmind its a deleted scene

[@DaltonHBrown]

+SSJ Bubbims yea lol. I was gonna say

[@RellatheFella]

In Incredibles 2, a lot of people from all around the globe apparently have powers still. How could this be if the Government already ceased their connection to the supers?

[@zeynepdoogaan]

I thought about the same thing and when I saw the second movie I was kinda disappointed that this theory wasn’t correct because it makes sense and gives a little more mature vibe. Then I thought, (with deleted scenes where Syndrome says supers breeding is illegal) the supers from the second movie could be the children of the first supers, who laid low because of the law and maybe they fleed to another country. After that, everything sort of fell into place. I hope I was helpful!

[@georgebardsley7129]

5:21 His arm pits are very sweaty Like he only just noticed when he moved his arms

[@THFC23]

i would love to see an incredibles orgins movie

[@DarthGardens]

InternetRoDO you just did

[@hibadaquab1742]

elastagirl or whatever her name is must of had a grand time having kids

[@thea.g.productions5810]

Elasticgirl!

[@hibadaquab1742]

oh thank you

[@sion8]

Interesting, I mean she would be able to stretch any body part of hers.

[@hibadaquab1742]

exactly

[@toast_the_bread]

true😜

[@waterdamaged1387]

I HAVE LIKE 5 PAGES OF WORD NOTES DISPROVING THIS CATCH ME CRYING I WASTED SO MUCH TIME

[@gablar_802]

WHERE'S MA SUPER SUIT!?

[@luxetveritas019]

WHY DO YOU NEED TO KNOW?

[@BlueGuyTube]

I NEED IT!

[@cryingwithrage]

MY DINNER IS MORE IMPORTANT

[@gablar_802]

I AM YO WIFE!

[@cryingwithrage]

I'M THE ONLY BLACK CHARACTER IN PIXAR

[@joelatkinson4967]

I love this idea, it makes a crap tonne of sense especially if the timeline of the beggining of the film takes place during or towards the end of the cold war it would mean the supers where made to fight the soviets and after the war or as the americans where winning they had them fight crime and start families. It makes so much sense. maybe the monsters from Monsters inc are actually supers whose genetics have changed and not you know ants like the original pixar theory

[@TheRealmPod]

Joel Atkinson but frozone had powers when he was 2

[@sivad1025]

I like what you're saying about The Cold War. When I rewatched it, I thought it was interesting how Syndrome seemed to have very communistic ideals. So it would be a great irony if the government hired Syndrome to make weapons for a war just for Syndrome to become what they're fighting.

[@daewillison]

perfect description of overkill: "like bringing a gun to a pillow fight" that needs to be a tee shirt...

[@gregthomson1064]

How about this one. The incredibles exists in an alternate MCU timeline where the US government figures out how to recreate the Captain America serum, and even takes it a bit further with other powers. The timeline lines up, takes place in the 50s and 60s, less than 20 years after Captain America went in the ice. Also syndrome almost seems to have hydra-esque technology.

[@panicpossum]

I SAW THE "what does Kronos mean" VIDEO AND WAS LIKE oh ok THEN I READ PERCY JACKSON AND WAS LIKE OH MY GODS KRONOS

[@hellopeople3550]

😂😂😂

[@gavinallerton3414]

Welcome to the family hahaha

[@summerwithcj7716]

I thought I was the only person that thought that!

[@emotweektweak1481]

same

[@Acrayon]

KRONOS THE TITAN TOOK OVER PIXAR FOR ONE MOVIE CONFIRMED

[@matthewstatler6340]

Dont know why but this seems like something that the US would do

[@TheRealPentigan]

The DVD extras did have a pretty decent database of supers and yeah there's no mention of empowered villains but there is mentions of heroes using their powers for practical uses. Like I think one of them is effectively Magneto and was turning scrapmetal into modern art? It's been a while since I've watched them.

[@juliecorbin3628]

In those extras Frozone tells about the first time he realized he had super powers. He was like 4 years old.

[@megandavis2819]

they literally say in the movie they were volunteers for a government experiment

[@tannerman46]

Where in the movie? I don't recall that

[@alien6812]

mark Tanner the opening scene I think

[@tannerman46]

@@alien6812 I don't recall that, I'll have to watch it again. Thanks!

[@CroakPad]

I don't remember if it was in a deleted scene or if it was in the actual film, but I also remember Syndrome telling Mr. and Mrs. Incredible that "Supers aren't supposed to breed." So the marriage between two supers was probably also prohibited which would also be part of why Dash's teacher doesn't suspect him to have super speed.

[@christinagutierrez4189]

Interesting. I didnt connect that

[@TheCrochetCritters]

+CroakPad I'm curious, which scene do you mean? Because if they weren't allowed to breed, then why were they allowed to get married?

[@CroakPad]

TheCrochetCritters That is an excellent question that I don't know how to answer, sorry. :/

[@AdrianLeeGod]

I very much doubt this as possible. Let's start with the most obvious problem, the variety of super powers. If we assume your government did manage to create superhuman abilities and grant them to people, and let's even pretend you wouldn't immediately use them for warfare, why would they bother giving people different combinations of powers? Wouldn't a uniform power be far simpler, or perhaps squads, each with different abilities for different tasks? No, my belief is that it functions similar to the infamous mutants in XMen, it's a genetic advantage each person has, granting them different powers, unique to the person themselves. Going from Jack Jack, it's clear these abilities manifest from infancy, but according to Helen (or "Elastigirl"), they assumed Jack Jack was actually not a Super, implying he developed his powers late, odd, considering he's too young to stand or even speak beyond gurgles and cries. If superpowers manifested at birth or near thereof, as it seems to be the case, it'd be easy to keep track of everyone who has them, just jot it down in that person's government records. Thus, should supervillains show similar traits to the file, it's a simple matter to track them down. Who has powers and who doesn't is, of course, private records, and once the US outlawed vigilantism, any supervillain trying to rise up would be immediately dealt with, let's be honest. Maybe send in a super or three in secret, and the message would spread soon enough. No more costumes. As for "Syndrome", he wasn't exactly subtle, and likely people up top were pushing to shut him down, but needed proof, which the attack provided, allowing them to push the button, as it were.

[@katerinaluv2806]

Adrian Lee maybe the super powers that people get, are based on their genes, and how they react to "being activated"

[@AdrianLeeGod]

That wouldn't really make sense, from a genetic standpoint. If everyone, or even only certain people, had the gene, and it needed to be activated, surely other governments would catch on and start copying the experiments for warfare, like America would most certainly do. No, if America, no, *any* country found a way to make super soldiers, they'd abuse it for warfare faster than you could say human rights. It has to be natural, as every character acts as if being "super" is predetermined from birth. Then, as super humans vanished from the spotlights, people forgot, or assumed they were all isolated or prevented from using said powers. Pixar loves realism in their stories (magic/supernatural aside), so I think this is the only likely situation.

[@skg_iv]

Adrian Lee Uhhh to much words

[@neelparmar6690]

It could be a situation like in Deadpool where everyone reacts differently to having their super-power genes activated giving everyone different powers

[@SuupurSanicc]

Well, it isn't really all that far fetched considering the way that a lot of Marvel super heroes got their powers from. You guessed it. Gene manipulation and experimentation. For example: The hulk, Spiderman, Deadpool. Even in other comic companies as well. The flash, Dr.Manhattan, The fantastic 4. It's highly possible genetic makeup could decide what powers you get if they are forced to "Activate."

[@s-wo8781]

I can actually see this government angle being true in the sequel.

[@cbo2864]

Now that I've watched Incredibles II, you need to rethink this video... :D

[@ThePaintballgun]

ALL THESE COMMENTS ARE ABOUT HIS PIT STAINS. Sure he sweats, we all do. HAHAHAHA... okay there, can we get over this?

[@ollietolan5360]

That's the whole reason I came to the comment section

[@brennenbeckwith]

Whenever J has kids they are going to be very well educated on Pixar theories

[@kahjunn9427]

Let's Just go with the theory that they are all mutants,born with power. if there is Inceredibles 3,I would like to see a Brotherhood of evil Supers as the antagonists

[@jojocircus9818]

"How did you get in my video?" "Not important" 😂

[@cholten99]

Mentions a point I've brought up before about Marvel mutants. We're shown that many exist (via cerebro) but we only ever see the ones fighting the bad guys - rather than people using the powers openly for more everyday work.

[@baxxa]

In Edna’s place in the background you can see ancient supers fighting aka Greek Spartans, I believe supers are some product of the “gods” or possibly a random genetic reason and in Disney infinity the statue is mentioned as an ancient artwork of supers.

[@Protectobot]

BEST THEORY YET!!

[@robertcremin3291]

Maybe the "supers" are all god like beings who willingly let their powers be limited so that they wouldn't go overboard but decided to keep at least one power so that incase any supers went mental and attempted to remove the limit they would be able to be stopped

[@MistyGlades567]

like superman?

[@robertcremin3291]

Victoria A Kinda

[@conannye860]

Does that mean that Jack-Jack is a closer-to-god-like super? because he possesses so many more powers than all the other supers who only have 1 to 2 powers!

[@stephaniepayan2313]

Robert Cremin thats the entire plot of is it wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon

[@izabellahorne9732]

conan nye he is not close to God like it is just because he his powers are out of control because he is a baby

[@duganchase8577]

CIA Agent: "Mr. President we just discovered how to make superpowered humans with terrifying powers." Mr. President: "Hmm, Yes 'Merica"

[@drehasthebestbeats2874]

It must have been easy for the superwoman to give birth; Think about it. Her name is Elastigirl/Elastagirl.

[@LW-ng1fl]

Dre Has the Best Beats yeah of course it probably didn't even hurt to push cuz she could just expand her uterus

[@lewisaino]

Yeah lol

[@julianabragg3792]

i went to school with the boy who did the voice of jack jack

[@morgenrhodes]

Juliana Bragg 2 people voiced jack jack

[@addie_ed6804]

Wow cool

[@bran6590]

says Juliana "b r a g g"

[@sithlordbeerus503]

I went to school with Samuel L Jackson

[@jackmike4585]

Juliana Bragg I went to school with George Washington

[@samanthabraker2977]

Or they're just mutants, like X-Men. Toy Story is the same universe as Incredibles, Toy Story's script was written by Joss Whedon. What else was written by Joss Whedon? Avengers 2.

[@RevRa-3]

Samantha Braker Avengers 2? You mean the one where the millionaire made a robot that builds a better robot which builds a better robot which builds a better robot and etc.? And that robot then breaks its programming cycle and tries to actually kill everyone? That Avengers 2?

[@sarahrau1441]

Why wouldn't you cite Astonishing X-Men... I mean, this doesn't make any sense to start with, but still.

[@RevRa-3]

Jacob Rau I would actually go with the government idea. Because then you could have a circulation of illegal supers. Like drug cartels giving out meth or heroine. There could be a possibility of people making huge bank from giving illegally made superpowers.

[@ComicBooksandVideoGameNerd96]

I'm about read the entire 2004 astonishing X-Men by Josh Wheaton and John Cassidy

[@callmev3531]

It is also interesting to point out that according to Buddy Pines, "Well, not every superhero has powers, y'know", meaning that if the government is giving people powers, it is possible they don't do it to every hero.

[@ruthlesace]

ok first off, syndrome definately has super intelligence, secondly I quote megamind here "you're a villain alright, but yo're not all that super" "whats the difference?" "presentation" don't remember the villains name but even if they don't have powers on a certain level all these villains are super

[@SkippysBacon]

Megamind

[@onecrispyfrie1932]

titan

[@charlesdilorenzo7614]

To be honest, I would disagree with this theory. If you look at the “Secret super hero files” in disc 2 of incredibles 1, Frozone explains how as a child he was drinking Kool aid (he actually says this in the special feature) and was thinking that it would be cool if he could have frozen Kool Aid (or a popsicle) and then it froze in his hand. In the movie the reason the “Supers” are well trained is because they work FOR the government, which is why the incredicar/incredobile/incredimobile/incredibile is government owned. The super heroes aren’t on their own, they joined an initiative BECAUSE of their abilities.

[@Xenkatze]

I've been staring at it for five minutes and still can't figure out what that bird thing is...

[@clixstopmotion3729]

+Dark X the drawing behind the guy I think

[@KataySlay]

It's a combination of Hogwarts house animals. hufflepuff (a badger) and ravenclaw (a crow) I believe

[@amber-ic1en]

it a grizzly eagle shark the super carlin brothers created it come on guys get with the scb program.

[@amber-ic1en]

acutally theres four house animals a snake a lion/grifin a badger and a eagle not a crow

[@psycogamer2048]

It is a drawing of Fearow from Pokemon (look it up)

[@RiverPond11]

I'm so upset that he didn't mention the cut scene where Syndrome says something like "Supers aren't allowed to breed"

[@RiverPond11]

Found it. Soon after 9:30 Syndrome says "you're breaking the law, supers aren't allowed to breed." kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnLLaKKkpZWVedE

[@marielamanriquez2697]

In the 2nd movie this theory don't fit

[@obgaming109]

Good point... But maybe America wasn’t the only one with a way to do it...

[@obgaming109]

And maybe those countries syndrome funded used his tech to make their machine to do it... Hence the overpowered powers

[@elijahblechman8633]

maybe it was a world war two thing. ailed countries and all, there are about 3 from uk in that scene.

[@kcocozza]

Mariela Manriquez yeah

[@ghostbl33d65]

lol, I love your "Bring a gun to a pillow fight" analogy. I can just imagine something like this happening. Teenage girl 1: Let's have a pillow fight! Teenage girl 2:Done(smacks with pillow) FIRST ONE TO GIVE OUT LOSES! Teenage girl 3: **BANG** Teenage girl 1: JESUS CHRIST YOU KILLED ASHLY! Teenage girl 3: I...Will not...LOOOOOOOSE! **BANG** **BANG** I Know I'm a terrible person.

[@CiderVG]

Teenage girl 1: Well shit

[@DevdevOnYT]

Teenage girl 2 ghost: Daaaammmnnn yoooouuuuu... 👻

[@1sdani]

Well that escalated quickly...

[@ghostbl33d65]

**BANG** **BANG** (at ghost) *shoot*, I missed

[@CiderVG]

Teenage girl 1: 😐

[@codyboothe2310]

It wouldn't surprise me if they did a prequel to the incredibles and before Elastigirl was Elastigirl she was a wall flower like violet and mr incredible was like a nerd but after getting his powers he became a jock

[@fredriks5090]

Boo from Monsters Inc. got a sneak peak from beyond the doors and created a fictional persona for herself named E-DNA (extraterrestrial DNA) based on something she saw on a fancy screen. Later on when she got older she named her Woody doll "Y-dna" as a joke/homework assignment, - which her grandson got named after. She became an expert in the Super-program because she knew the true origin of their genetic blessings. She fell out of favor with the government because she saw the supers as friends instead of threats. Once she got booted by the government she had to hide her real name Mary Gibbs and used her childhood imaginary name "EDNA Monster Detective" (Marie "E" Mode) instead as a nod to the genetic mutants she saw as friends. She also transformed her childhood hobby of drawing into a successful designer carreer, - allowing her to make uniforms capable of resisting government weapons (which she had helped design herself). EDNA is the mother of Syndrome and inspired his early fandom for Mr. Incredible. Syndrome felt that his mother betrayed him by siding with Mr. Incredible after being ignored by him, and started working with the government (EDNA's old job) as a revenge against both Bob and Mary Gibbs (mother). There's also a possibility that Bob and Helen adopted Violet from Edna as a means of hiding her from the government (explaining their particularly close connection with Edna and Syndrome) The government could also specifically have targeted supers that tried to have children as a means of eradicating E-dna (Syndromes job assignment). A messed up theory that ties up nicely.

[@TheSimcraftFixion]

What if Frozone is related to Elsa? :O XD

[@savagebeast5483]

weird

[@ERICKCASTROH]

don't mix disney and pixar

[@henriquecarballoaranha9100]

Diferent franchises, diferent creators, diferent colors skins & hair...

[@TheSimcraftFixion]

It's a joke... XD

[@henriquecarballoaranha9100]

Tbh makes more sence then some theories out there

[@BenjaminChaplin1414]

who else noticed his pit stains 5:20 ...lol

[@Tom-ji1gi]

yep

[@jackiefock3804]

Yeah

[@ineededanamecouldntthinkof5387]

At first i didn't know if they were there but now i know they are there

[@Oscar4u69]

you are a phenomenon who doesn't sweat? +Benjamin Chaplin

[@BenjaminChaplin1414]

rodrigo maldonado nobody asked you i just pointed it out and asked if someone else saw it. i didnt say ewww his stains are everywhere someone get him deodorant. like no one cares the fuckkk.

[@angeladavidson2350]

MIND BLOWN. I think you're on to something.

[@jukeboxjammer2343]

While I do agree with this theory, you could argue that Helen was just already a government agent before she got her powers. You can see an old picture of her in a pilot’s outfit when she’s on the phone with snug

[@orfeus770]

Or we will see that in Incredibles 2 that mr. Incredible wakes up at a office desk and realizes that he doesn't have a dream wife or dream family and he definitely doesn't have powers and none of this happened

[@jennifercramer2156]

He is actually John Cena.

[@aterribleperson9119]

There is literally no reason for this to happen.

[@orfeus770]

+Mr Flaming Pretzels that's the point

[@EllaIngram]

That would be like the biggest anticlimax ever XD

[@anonymousanonymous7492]

No. This CANNOT happen.

[@DanDoesDnD]

unfortunately the hero theory is wrong. in the special features there are interviews with several heroes. and in frozones interview he talked about how he randomly developed his powers. in fact a lot of the hero's mention that they just randomly discovered their powers.

[@njudt9527]

+Zachary Hanson but maybe they were told to say stuff like that, after all it is a film that looks like propaganda.

[@alexanderoquendo5236]

or they were random test subjects.

[@Talonpoppy]

Nice theory, but remember the start of the movie was pitched in an interview's point of view, meaning they could have easily said discovery or development of the powers could be not entirely flushed out. Another thing could be that the super program had duds or didn't develop right away. Just putting that idea out there for you mate.

[@frankg2790]

It is more likely that the first generation supers are born with their power but it manifests later on.

[@taylorwright7428]

+Rebecca Jones (TalonPoppy) +Frank G Or maybe in the future over generations, the gene could've changed a but and acts like a recessive gene!

[@andrewlopez9697]

And it's not that far off the US military do have experiments so I mean it is totally a possibility

[@joshuajoe1419]

If you merge MCU and Pixar slightly, Captain America has the super soldier program. What if the Military continues the program equaling all the supers

[@Jamie_Winsh]

Everything included in this theory makes so much sense! And the fact dash's teacher never suspected he was a super has always annoyed me so I'm glad it makes sense now

[@J_Isak]

What about Frozone's origin story from the special features dvd? He was a kid with his sign of super powers then got taken in by the government.

[@swiftswalow]

Maybe a descendant of other superheroes? We Don't know for how long the supers had ben around?

[@Lampent12]

+JoiIsakYT Exactly!

[@kelseyhalliwell]

+JoiIsakYT Where is that story? I just looked at my copy of the DVD special features and I saw several deleted scenes but that one wasn't one of them. Was it in a different edition of the movie? I have the 2-disc collector's edition that I got when it first came out on DVD.

[@J_Isak]

Kelsey Halliwell It's in the menu from the "agency" files with all the sound bits/interviews of some of the supers it includes bits about other heroes mentioned in the film.

[@ethanscinematicuniverse3260]

8:18 I've been stuck in this loop for 3 years. Help.

[@elijahayran9468]

Don't you think Elsa could've been one of the first supers and genetically handed down her powers down generations just like the Xmen?

[@john-ni3pi]

true considering the theory of elsa and repunzle being twin sisters seperated after birth and that they are the only disney princesses with super powers they could've passed there powers down generation to generation. In X-men they did say the power gene came from the mom. It's like a sex-linked gene, the super powers.

[@matthewziemba5493]

Have you ever noticed that when Mirage is in the car watching Mr. Incredible and Frozone she says, "He's still with the fat guy," which means that she was sent to survey Frozone, which is why the guy on the phone asked for confirmation of switching her target.