Pixel 9 vs Pixel 8 vs Pixel 7 | No More Overheating?

[@jacquesw3086]

A phone isn't reviewed until Techmo tested it

[@dominikdbdb]

get out of his ass now

[@ElecPi]

How can a KZbinr be THIS THOROUGH with his reviews? Plus the fact that you go to the extent of buying these three expensive flagships and dozens of others with your hard-earned money just to make good videos for us to watch makes me respect you so much. Here's to many more amazing videos and exponential growth to your channel!

[@supaahflyy]

Because this man studied in science so he knows what real scientific rigour is. Not just entertainment

[@Jaycutler709]

First time seeing this guys reviews. This was insane. I wanna say I subscribed in the first two minutes lol

[@MegaDante5]

What a great review. I have pixel 7. I'm looking to upgrade to pixel 9

[@mrcool7140]

You really are the only channel I know that consistently talks about batteries and modems in their review and this alone would be a reason to watch. Can't wait for your daily-use-test against the Galaxy S24 with the obligatory bike ride through Vienna. :)

[@techmo2020]

This guy bikes 🚲🚲

[@PaulPayne837]

As someone from Zambia, I understand that for people living in developed countries, it might be hard to dislike the Google Pixel. But for those of us in Africa, and many other parts of the world, it's all too easy. Google just doesn’t seem to care about markets like ours. They don’t sell here, and it's clear we’re not a priority. Sure, they cater to India, but that's only because of the country’s wealthy elite-a small group that gets overlooked due to the glaring inequality. But even then, Google doesn’t have an official presence there. They just ship the parts, and the local manufacturers handle the rest. For those living in places where the Pixel ecosystem is sold, it’s easy to love it. But for us, where it isn’t even available, we’re better off importing a Chinese phone or sticking with Samsung or Apple. The frustration of being overlooked by these big companies is real.

[@besg5725]

@KZbindeletedmycomment did you just compare poorer countries to bums?

[@malithaw]

Are you braindrad or something? ​@KZbindeletedmycomment

[@techmo2020]

I'm sorry for your experience. As someone who has grown up both in wealthy countries and also "poor" countries, I feel for you. In the end, it's a business decision driven by demand. I've worked in many large corporations, and management always cares only about profit. As long as a region is profitable, they will continue to serve it, but they are always ready to exclude a region if it becomes unprofitable. It's likely that Zambia is not profitable for Google, considering their small global market share. Please don't take it personally, and keep your head up.

[@PaulPayne837]

@@techmo2020 thank you 🙏🏾 I love pixel phones I have an 8 currently but it is what it is, I might have to go with Samsung.

[@Elementrius]

Unique perspective, thanks for sharing. As an American I like to hear people's experiences across the globe when it comes to tech, it's quite intriguing

[@barsrustuoglu2574]

Your reviews are truly more valuable than other tech channels for me. Most people say the regular pixel 9 is better and you don't need to spend much (what they always say) but they don't talk about things like heat dissipation, energy efficiency or the vapor chamber. For 200$/€ more it seems like you don't get much but with an extra camera and LTPO display, you get the same phone with a better ability to cool itself. Sometimes the spec sheet doesn't tell you everything. Thank you for making videos that has the users in mind Techmo, appreciate your efforts!

[@Raider334]

Great review my biggest issue with the Pixel was the overheating. I have the Pixel 9 now from the Pixel 6A all the improvements made are a big step up for the Pixel. So far no overheating to report to date. 🎉

[@reidenar]

Keep in mind that they bump the price up by 200$ vs pixel 7. Base pixel 9 doesn't seem like a good deal, maybe the pro, but the price is even higher.

[@PerfosOG]

In my country price difference between 8 and 9 are at least 400$, Jesus Christ.

[@Manuel-rl6um]

Amazing video. It would be interesting to test a few things: - Pixel 9 vs Pixel 9 Pro (to see if thermals are very different and battery drain thanks to LTPO screen of the Pro) - Pixel 8 vs Pixel 9 battery life comparison without WiFi (4G or 5G) - Pixel 9 vs S24 vs iPhone 15

[@YourFear97]

Yeah, pixel 9 vs pixel 9 pro (not xl) is a must!

[@tobiashaase6844]

Battery life without WiFi would be perfect 🤝🏼 since Pixel Phones drain crazy without WiFi

[@phritza]

Thank you for comparing the 9 to the older pixels! Everyone on YT seems to be comparing it to the latest Samsung/iPhone which is cool, but logically, during a time when upgrades are minimal, I feel like most people switching to the 9 would be coming from an older Pixel rather than switching from the latest Samsung/iPhone.

[@mwj9080]

Totally agree with you!

[@Andy61880]

Love your reviews. I always recommend my friends to sub to you for unbiased reviews.

[@__tenant__]

Please do a comparison between Pixel 9 vs S24 Exynos variant

[@rudolfgamer88]

Win s24 exynos.

[@andyH_England]

According to these findings, the Pixel 8's battery efficiency has regressed compared to the Pixel 7. Therefore, any comparison of the Pixel 8 and Pixel 9 batteries should be viewed with the understanding that it is not a significant improvement over the three phones. However, because of the Pixel 9's 10% larger battery, this video suggests minimal improvement over the Pixel 7. The temperatures are lower on the Pixel 9, but is this due to Google's power-throttling? If not, it's likely due to the modem upgrade rather than the Tensor chip, which is still based on the underwhelming Samsung-made 4nm architecture.

[@techmo2020]

That's a very good assessment. In general these findings are preliminary and should not be overstated, we will know for sure about the performance when we compare them head to head with S24 and iPhone 15.

[@gregormatibag5923]

Is the pixel 7 still a good choice for 2025 I want to upgrade my pixel 5a but I don't want to spend more money for the phone. I am an average user.

[@andyH_England]

@@gregormatibag5923 Yes, it is excellent and similar to the Pixel 8. Really the Pixel 7, 8 and 9 have minor differences.

[@manuhdplay6229]

Finally found somebody that talks about the important things that we users want to know about this new phone, i just hope you got more subs.

[@ivanvasilev2903]

Amazing job with this video, many thanks! You've got a new subscriber

[@mooode841]

Because of you and other content creators, I've recently bought S24+ (US version), which comes with snapdragon 8 gen 3. I saw how bad the exynos 2400 with heat issues, battery drain, screen dimming, and overall worse performance. Keep up the good work 👍 From Saudi Arabia. 💚🇸🇦

[@sbashir9460]

Things I took away: I actually prefer the look of my 7 to the 9! The 9 series has definitely provided improvements so my decision on getting a 9 Pro (when I do) is solid I feel doubly guilty for persuading a family member to get the 8 last year (switched from Samsung). The 8 is not a good choice. Thanks!

[@kramjonas9334]

I daily a pixel 7, and its a great device I'll prolly upgrade to pixel 10 when it releases next year

[@mwj9080]

I’m in the same boat. I’ve had my pixel 7 since launch and it’s been a very solid device. I also plan to upgrade to the Pixel 10 series next with tat TSMC made tensor G5 chip. This time I’m going with the 10 Pro XL. I want a bigger screen and bigger battery this time around.

[@mikehubble8976]

Same

[@TheKapuzina]

exactly the same here - no need for another phone yet

[@Arlo14324]

@@mwj9080 after such long use is there any heating issues or how is the battry life

[@IgnacioCheuque]

The good reason to buy the Pixel 10, is the change of arquitecture. Leaving the Exynos arquitecture, for use own arquitecture.

[@matteventu]

Has nobody noticed at 8:36 that - despite the overall score increasing slightly with each generation, the "CPU" score actually went down!? 235606 Pixel 7, 205845 Pixel 8, 191084 Pixel 9. How come?

[@Abishek_1988]

Want a camera standoff between these three

[@sammyt3514]

The two main reasons that kept me from getting a Pixel in the past were poor battery life and poor signal reception and your review is the only one of the many I saw that not only covered those aspects for the Pixel 9, but also provided an empirical comparison between it and the previous two versions which was very useful; thanks!

[@chhandobhihbhushan2742]

Have a 6a and I am never going to buy another phone from Google, these issue should have been fixed by now but they aren't.

[@Chio_OB]

Bought my good lady a 7a to replace her Samsung S8, she loves it. Considered the 8a and pro, mainly for the camera. Ended up getting a Poco F6 512gb for £324 on an Amazon special to replace my older Sony xperia 5ii mini (still a great phone). Camera not so good on the Poco compared to the pixel but not bad at all, I have an nice camera for taking great shots with erm a 30 or 50X optical zoom. Very impressed with the POCO F6 (the bloatware isn't as bad as people say and easily disabled). Great review Techmo

[@aminDehghann]

Hi Mohammad. I hope you are doing well. It's been a while since we saw each other and it's so fun to see that you put out these videos. I'm a pixel fan too and thinking about upgrading my pixel seven to pixel nine. I enjoyed this video a lot.

[@techmo2020]

Hey man, long time no see. Hope you are doing well in life. I always remember you as a talented and hardworking artist. If you can get the pro one, go for that, I think it does worth the extra money, I'm gonna get that too for myself 😊

[@aminDehghann]

@@techmo2020 Thanks mate. I appreciate it. I also remember you as an amazing product manager who dedicated yourself in the projects. I'm also thinking about the pro and I might as well go with that.

[@idkmehhh]

5:39 just a little note, I'm pretty sure the phone downclocks the refresh rate to 60hz when the screen isnt being touched, if you turn on the refresh rate in the developer options, you can see the number go down to 60hz after about a second of not touching the screen. 😁 LTPO is nice but most phones stay in that 60-120hz range during most tasks.

[@matteoZattera]

I can't wait for the comparison between Pixel 9 and S24 Exynos

[@BeigeVarsity]

You are asking the real question here. The overheat issue is really the dealbreaker for me because I had terrible experience with the Pixel OG

[@xumi3051]

Pixel 7 battery 2 years older, pixel 8 is 1 year older, the chemical inside are dropping a little even if you didn't use it, if you want to compare it with pixel 9, change the battery of pixel 7 and 8 with new one made 2024 batch.

[@yubisnake]

Nice. Good to see as well, especially considering the vapor chamber on the pro should help bring down those temperatures even durther

[@DavideTasca]

Thanks for the video, really interesting tests. It was just the data I was looking for! Thanks!🏆

[@fullbass1426]

Im finally about to upgrade my pixel 6 to the 9, and while I was expecting to be disappointed with the specs & raw performance, I might just push through with it. Im just gonna accept the fact that my new pixel 9 will be slower than my 2 year old 14 pro max. 😅

[@ethanw222]

Thanks for testing against the pixel 7.

[@summushieremiasclarkson4700]

Upgraded to 9 pro xl from 6 pro, that I got for $200 3 years ago. In the US, best buy offers $600 off on the pro phones with the trade in ($400 + $200 gift card value, but best buy is very useful so OK). Overall cost of $500 for the 9 pro xl is not bad, especially in that hazel that I really like.

[@eljuancho2]

Fantastic content! i have a s21 5g the battery overheats researching androids and is hard to find phone that dont heat up.

[@vincegironda5470]

Good review; very helpful. Thank you.

[@Harperino]

Sehr tolles review! :) Hier oben in Deutschland sind noch weniger Features als in Österreich verfügbar. Trotzdem bietet das Pixel 9 meiner Meinung nach ein tolles Featureset!

[@derekreece5991]

Great video, well done!

[@nottsoserious]

I strongly believe that this is Google's best phone yet. Pixel software is very good, but their hardware has always been lacking. Finally they fixed their poor fingerprint scanner and overheating issues. The build quality is also top-notch. I got my Pixel 9 on a very good trade-in deal, and i think I can keep it for 5 years easily. I came from a pixel 6a btw, but i traded in an iPhone 12 that my family wasnt using.

[@jevonsims900]

The design is from iPhone. The chip, build quality, and fingerprint sensor, is Samsung's doing so can we really give Google the credit?🤷♂️

[@G.Martinez916]

I upgraded from flip 4 to Pixel 9 in wintergreen I think the regular is better looking than the pros. Its my first pixel after several samsung phones just waiting for it to arrive

[@PalmBeachPeter]

Excellent thumbnail. Grazie! Pietro

[@iamAzharAli786]

Very clean and simply good video

[@MonkeDiesTwice]

Really nice comparison! Thanks for that. The Pixel 9 seems pretty good, but I think ill stick with my 7Pro for now

[@HasithaRamanayake]

What's the app you use as the overlay for the battery percentage and temperature?

[@ujko8878]

How you show temperature and bettery percentage on phones display ? Is this app or what?

[@RedPanda_00806]

So, actually is the same as Pixel 8 on heating, yes, few degrees less but still hotter than others.

[@MateuszPe94]

I have Pixel 7a and for me it's still very good smartphone. I don't see big difference between 7 and 9 so I think it doesn't make sense to upgrade. But for someone who hasn't yet pixel and want a new one, Pixel 9 gonna be nice phone.

[@Naabjelwd]

I wonder what the temperature of the pixel 9 is while using the phonr and at the same time charging it. My pixel 8 gets so hot (38-39C) while charging, even with a PPS charger. It is so hot that is slows charging down to 2 watt while using the phone.

[@flexor212000]

My 8a has horrible purple tone shift/rainbowing when off axis. So much if phone is slightly titled, it looks bad. Is that on 9?

[@pascualorgilesmartinez7836]

Great review. Could you make the same review about the batery en 4G? I mean, youtube playback, just to see if it is worthy to upgrade from P8 ti P9 because of the new modem. Users of P8 use 4G as 5G heat the phone a lot and the battery consumption is too high, but with 4G is more efficient. If you can't make a review, can you please test it and give feedback? Thank you!

[@MrWadeBarrett]

I was waiting for your reviews! Thank you! Looking forward to a review of the pro model, especially how it compares to Samsung

[@fjmaring]

¡Enhorabuena! Excellent video!

[@MOTHIATMAN]

Quality content 👌, just found ur channel and subbed.

[@Jaycutler709]

That temperature gauge was crazy, and i havent seen rhat anywhere else yet

[@ajayaswal191]

Hi.. Love your illuminating content and perspective.. Could you please share your views on the new Motorola Edge series of phones? There's a new phone - Moto EDGE 50 NEO - that has just launched - And I'm attracted to it's compact form factor and good features for the price.. however the processor is apparently very average.. My question is about the software experience, updates and support offered by Moto. From what I've read online, moto has pathetic customer support.. apparently, their focus is on launching new models every month and not on improving the experience of the phones already sold.. what are your views on Moto phones? Im currently using the Pixel 4a, which has served me very well. But i want to change it now. Im considering a budget device between either the Pixel 7 or the Moto Edge 50 neo.

[@aidan8583]

pixel's buggy software pushed me to get an iphone, but it is seeing how this gen compares to my old pixel 7. a lot of my complaints seem to be fixed, although i'm still overall happier with my iphone.

[@arvind8302]

3:54 the 8 didn’t take the shot with night sight.

[@omiddhm372]

Great review finally I found a Pixel heat test👍

[@aviostpl8720]

You should also do speakers comparison at like 50% max volume

[@abhayverma9220]

why does Google not use Snapdragon processors?

[@uploadmeful]

$$$

[@abhayverma9220]

@@uploadmeful In the long run it might make them more money if they stick to snapdragon or at least get their processors made by TSMC

[@Vnuebe]

my pixel 8 pro that i buyed this morning is overheating like crazy, 40 dgrees for a simple task and quickly, 10 mins of download or 10 mins of twitch and i'm at 40 i can even feeel the heat on the front and the edges i'm thinking about send it back.

[@ChieefJeef]

Top review!!!

[@Youtubeuseritis]

Will pixel 7 get the screenshot AI App? It is available as .apk for side loading but it does not work.

[@fnthm]

I have P7, and not sure about upgrading to 9 after seeing those camera tests. Photos on P9 are too bright... like overexposed! I prefer P7 correct exposure... What do you think?

[@thesocialintrovert]

Something seems off about the Pixel 8. That was a weird performance.

[@chrisjacem]

I honestly don't understand that huge rounded corners

[@jacquesw3086]

6:47 promising to see the pixel 9 running so much cooler

[@user67196]

Im planning on buying pixel 7, what about the heating issues

[@Adgale]

You have to make the comparison between pixel 9 pro , iPhone 15 pro and galaxy s24 ultra, especially in the power section. I'm starting to think the new pixels is a bit of a rip off for the price it has and the processor it offers.

[@onlmkyefder2629]

Is the reception stronger on the 9???

[@kunjchauhan7745]

Where are these wallpapers from?

[@MachaMck]

Which have the better speakers ?

[@Napodano89]

Good job !! In your opinion in video test? Is there much different between 7 and 9?

[@techmo2020]

Hi, you mean for battery life and thermals? I didn't notice a huge difference except from the fact that Pixel 9 has a bigger battery capacity, so naturally it lasts longer.

[@Napodano89]

@@techmo2020 Sorry, I would Say video quality

[@techmo2020]

@@Napodano89 main lens no, the ultra wide yes :)

[@Napodano89]

@@techmo2020 thanks

[@codylujan]

Unless google really lowers the price to like $699, I probably won't upgrade until the 10 comes out. I daily a 7 pro xl. Still works like it just came out the box.

[@Sejuani89]

Summary: For battery efficiency, thermals, and camera Pixel 9 > 7 > 8 Im surprised Pixel 8 is actually worse than Pixel 7

[@ArjunRavi]

Even I am surprised, when I switched from pixel 7 to pixel 8 I was consistently having 20% more battery remaining at the end of the day

[@thesocialintrovert]

​@@ArjunRaviI just thought something was affecting the Pixel 8. I made the same switch and the 8 is better than the 7 in every aspect. Also runs cooler.

[@techmo2020]

​@@thesocialintrovert Frankly, I was surprised too :) There is always a silicon lottery with chipsets from Samsung foundry, maybe the one I am using is one with a lower yield. Or maybe this specific version of android is not working well with Pixel 8, who knows.

[@thesocialintrovert]

@@techmo2020 Yeah probably, whatever the case I'm very happy with my 8. 7 more years of updates means I can take my time and upgrade for the right reasons in about 4 years.

[@krishnakicha9921]

​@@thesocialintrovertplanning to buy 8 can I go for it?

[@venkateshwaranki680]

Perfect genuine review

[@AlexJ02021]

Would you do a test on PIXEL 9 PRO XL?

[@laibabdalim4004]

keep up🔥

[@Seanjones1990]

i've returned mine. it does over heat. i got to 43 surface temp playing tetris. i honestly cant be fked with that. the ai is just a gimmick (pro xl)

[@Ryrynz2000]

You need the Pro with the vapour chamber

[@Seanjones1990]

@@Ryrynz2000 i said pro xl, i have the pro xl lol

[@akashsxo]

Can you test the networks strengths of Pixel 9 with S24 Exynos considering both SOCs are made by Sansung and i guess same modem

[@techmo2020]

Sure, will do it in my Pixel 9 vs S24 comparison :)

[@akashsxo]

@@techmo2020 Thanks 😊

[@dirtytamato]

You know the pixel 7 pro doesn't overheat anymore right?

[@joshb7415]

I have a pixel 7 and it seems like its the exact same phone, what even was upgraded

[@DanielKirillov-iv3ww]

Overheating on top of being underpowered is truly an achievement.

[@procapture2007]

Want samsung galaxy a24 ultra vs pixel 9 camera comparison

[@saifhassan9673]

techmo is the new benchmark himself

[@cguralol]

After this video i more and more want to upgrade my old 6 pro to the 9 pro xl

[@viijan28]

Is the punchhole camera of pixel 8 smaller than the 9?

[@abrarw99]

Want a battery test between pixel 9 vs s24

[@danytalksmusic]

am I crazy or is the pixel 7 camera the best of them?

[@masoudi1414]

What’s the best android phones to get under 1000$ ???

[@bestonyoutube]

interessting, it has the new Samsung modem. wonder if the upcoming S25 will maybe finally be decent with Exynos 2500.

[@fbi-fipo1618]

You should've updated everything on the 7 (weather, camera etc)

[@FlameSpartan100]

Best review ever

[@danielmartinescu6728]

🙋‍♂I had a Pixel 3a and after 23 months the battery swelled 🙆‍♂ it was replaced under warranty😜I bought the new Pixel 6, really without problems, but now, after almost 3 years, the battery swelled 🤕🤬

[@log1x07]

great as always, but you should start listening to your voice over before uploading or let your wife check it. Sometimes you make small mistakes and call the Pixel 9 the 8 or something, which is confusing for the audience. greetings from Germany!

[@mwt5040]

No lie I haven't had any heating issues and I did android auto GPS and charging and KZbin videos and no heat and charged pretty fast

[@nopenope1]

Thanks for this tests. As a Pixel 6 user, I do really need a new device. Pixel 6 is... difficult. 7 and 8 just did not looked better for a lot of my issues with the 6. Fingerprint sensor... P9 should solve this. Heat, the 6 gets very hot very fast when using it, charging it. P9 is ok-ish (or the Pro at least) Modem, celluar it drains a lot more % per hour compared to any other device I've owned. In Wifi, it's on a ok-ish rate. Modem, celluar so often I have no connection or a bad one compared to other devices (nice to hear the P9 new modem seams to be fixing this) Hotspot, I do use the unlimited data plan I have, a lot with my Laptop and Pixel 6 is even more bad with the modem from Samsung. 10-20% per hour and the heat... Photos... I did like to make some insta food pics but since I have the Pixel 6, that cam sensor did kill all the fan with it. It just does not work, any better with even larger sensors? (as far as I've read into it, it's because of the large sensors creating this debts/focus issue I have with it) I've read Google missed to get the fully new soc ready with TSMC and had to fall back to the G4 which is pracitcally a G3 with a newer Modem from Samsung. (Which explains the gaming performance and benchmarks) ((though I do remember this story/rumor since G2) 1K for a phone it's a bit anyoing to get a probably only 'mid' CPU compared to other 1k phones. I don't play those terrible mobile transaction games so it would not be a deal breaker. As of now there are some deals till the end of August here with Pixel 9 verions double storage (256 instead of 128) for the same price, 128GB is not justable, 256 is my minimum... I haven't decided yet. What really would help me out is, how much heat and battery drain with active wifi hotspot per hour? (not even huge data usage, I'm using it mostly for work laptop, which is basically only a Browser with all those cloud apps ERP and MS365) 😅How do food pics look? I know I know, it's looks stupid when people to make fotos from their food in a restaurant but I did like to make pics from the food I make myself in the past, like Pizza and with older Phones the pics did look better.

[@techmo2020]

I'll take food pics just for you in my next review :)

[@nopenope1]

@@techmo2020 😅 thanks

[@Ryrynz2000]

Get a 9 if you can't wait for the 10

[@Jaycutler709]

What I'm about to say is own personal experience, I owned all the phones. 6-> was a very nice jump. Fingerprint actually worked( after like 8 months and all the updates, I just turned off the 6 password lock bc of how bad it was still) 7-> 8 was awesome and perfect. Smaller. Charged better. Handled better in the darkness. Face unlock, fingerprint reader perfect. Felt good in hand. 8-> 9, I haven't got my 9 pro yet, but it feels....okay in hand, sucks that it's slightly bigger and the corners aren't curved. But the fingerprint reader, and every camera is drastically better(and clearly better at temps) I say all of this, because 6 -> 9, is gonna be an absolutely insane jump for you lmao. Phone is smaller, fingerprint reader, face unlock, astronomically better camera and features lol. You should get great bonuses to trade in your 6,

[@nopenope1]

@@Jaycutler709 Hi, I'm unsure with the 9 because of maybe 10 will have a perfect TSMC SOC etc., which is normally wrong with Computers but at the same time I want to use my smartphones longer, to save money and resources, too. With the 6, I really looked at different companies, too. Haven't found something I really had to have. I've aranged myself with the 6, but was never very happy with it. I think if I get some info about wifi hotspot battery drain and 'food pics' 😅 both will be the deciding items for me to get a 9, possile small pro? With the aim to keep it the next 4 years.

[@Mr.SF9]

Hey there, I’m currently using iPhone 14 pro and planning to switch to android, which android smartphone do you recommend (6.1 to 6.3 inches)? Also, this is gonna be my first android device, please help me out

[@techmo2020]

Your options are Pixel 9 Pro and S24 IMHO.

[@Mr.SF9]

@@techmo2020 Discovered your channel just a couple of days ago. Your videos have helped me a lot in making a decision, really love your work👍🏻

[@ThomasNowicki-m5s]

tensor G3 9 cores tensor G4 8 cores similar cpu but 1 cpu removesd so reduced performance and 20 lower heat logikcly. a slow SOC generate no heat. the tensor G4 is in the performance range from a Snapdragon 7 gen 3 so fell free to compare this mid class SOCs. they look absolutly similiar in performance and all other specs.

[@komron336]

Are you iranian ? 😊

[@arashmonfak8576]

Are you iranian ?

[@Krshnasakha]

What's the conclusion

[@cenation7mjc]

The 9 is just worse design to me way too rounded corners bigger camera punch hole flat edges and a giant camaera bump instead of being part of the frame Looks so much worse than the 7 not to mention the processor