PIXEL BURN - A King, Konquered: The Fall of Billy Mitchell

[@RoyalJester17]

i'm just happy Wiebe was recognized as the 1st guy to get 1M points. he actually seems like a decent guy

[@jasoncarswell7458]

Wiebe's also a strange fellow (bless his autistic heart) but he comes off as genuine and well-liked. Given that the rest of his personality is pretty well-developed and admirable, he comes off as a dedicated fanboy rather than a nutter. Billy, by comparison (who is also autistic) looks, smells, talks and acts like a celebrity coke dealer circa 1982. He has the same hyper-intense autistic focus on speedrunning in ancient videogames as Wiebe does, but he's got absolutely no moral compass and his personality is like a walking caricature of something he saw on a TV cop show back in the 80s. Complete with the full black ensemble and the shitty sneer on his face. "Ha ha, weakling Wiebe! You've failed to foil my brilliant plans yet again! Now it is I who wear the title of KING OF KONG!"

[@kryptomatic2632]

@@wce05308 He has an ability to detect autism with his nose. Very useful in comment sections.

[@ropete33]

And he did it live and in person several times. He didn't hide away and do it all off camera.

[@olivermarijuanajones5041]

Yeah, as opposed to that slick mulleted ass clown Billy Mitchell, dude is like the slimest aspects of the 1980s, marinated in South Florida and compounded with intrest...

[@Whiteshell204]

yep after the king of kong documentary..I dislike billy

[@mrf19741]

I'm sorry, I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for Billy Mitchell. I watched The King Of Kong and the smug, condescending, arrogant attitude he showed in the film and the way he treated Steve Wiebe just showed what a complete and utter Jackhole he is. Nice to see that karma finally caught up with him.

[@valmarsiglia]

@roxoto The King of Kong was a documentary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Kong

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

@Mary McManus Then watch The King of Con, which is the documentary of the opposite disposition.

[@mrf19741]

@Qtri Nity LOL!

[@percipleflavius8171]

That's porked up man!

[@michaelstricklett7130]

When it came out Billy supported TG how could anyone trust the scoreboards?

[@RiderRohans]

"I guess when you have enough money you can create whatever you want." made my day.

[@STARZ_KABOOM]

and notice billy walks away and says nothing and notice how he never showed up to face steve... coward fraud liar

[@HappyMealBieber]

mitchel is a scum bag

[@YozorAnimee]

Needs to be put in a quote book

[@chrisrose323]

Does he drink beer? I want to buy that guy a beer. He should have a bro beer. Americas! Make it happen! I cannot do it from here.

[@curtiswilson4737]

That guy called him out, and he was sweating bullets, that's why he walked away, it was called, guilt.

[@DaFunyunFrog]

It’s crazy coming back to this video now, 5 years on, with multiple pending lawsuits, and seeing how utterly insane this whole situation has turned out to be.

[@JimCornetteIsMyDad]

If Mitchell was a nerd who had absolutely nothing in his life going for him, except these records, I would feel somewhat pity for him. But the guy owns a chain of restaurants, wing sauces and has a wife with gigantic jugs. Let it go Billy. It's over.

[@SuperKratosgamer]

@Starscream91 All of his records are gone.

[@jasonvoorhees5964]

His big jugged wife only married him for his money she has to drink alot to stomach letting that creep touch her.

[@drummerkidkill]

Starscream91 He shouldn’t be recognized for it. I don’t care if he did really do it. He’s a phony.

[@karlepaul6632]

#LoveTheJuggs 😉👍🏻

[@RetroGamesMas]

DONT WORRY...EVEN PACMAN CREATOR WANNA SEE BILLY DOING IT ON LIVE IN FRONT OF NEAR ALL THE CREATORS..AND HE SHOW THEM HOW HE DOES IT...THATS WHY HE IS THE KING OF PACMAN...AND HE DOES AGAIN THE WORLD RECORD DONKEY KONG..JUST TO SHUT THE FUCK UP OF THOSE NERDS WHO CALL HIM CHEAT..AND HE WAS JUST ON LIVE IN THE ARCADE DISTRICT.

[@paulkeleher1522]

If anyone's interested, there's a potential Donkey Kong kill screen coming up.

[@simonbrown285]

Has it happened?

[@jamesdjl4359]

Haha, that guy would've really gotten under my skin. Quintessential and proverbial nails on a chalkboard. I got a good laugh out of this comment though.

[@TheLexiconDevils]

That dickpuffer will be a senior citizen virgin

[@lazykirby57]

@@TheLexiconDevils okay seriously. Why is being a virgin such a bad thing? Asexual people exist you know!

[@JSchaffer214]

@@lazykirby57 Then someone who is asexual doesn't give a damn enough about it to leave a comment defending themselves. They just are who they are. The entire reason someone is asexual is because they don't care about sexual relationships. So, basically what I'm saying is.....YOU'RE A VIRGIN! 🤣

[@ReinEngel]

Remember that scene in King of Kong when he goes into a store and rearranges hot sauce to give himself more room on the shelf? That showed what type of person he was at his core... an egotistical piece of shit who would do anything, major or minor, to help himself and hurt others.

[@jamesm3471]

Lalo, just forget about Silly Billy & listen to me carefully: the Chicken-man has hidden a loaded gun down in his meth hole. He’s gonna act like a whimp, then shutoff all the lights & shoot you in the throat! At least tell someone besides grandpa thats you’re still alive first!

[@illustrate303]

Exactly I noticed that too

[@THEMarcusAurelius1]

Billy was NOT the first to reach the PAC Man kill screen. He was, at best, the third but Twin Galaxies completely ignored the first two a gave Billy the credit.

[@totallynotzokix11_mc21]

He also took a 30 minute break inbetween, which isn't allowed

[@F40PH-2CAT]

Yep that record is rubbish as well. This is why one fraud has to exclude ALL scores.

[@medes5597]

TG actually never claimed Billy was first to reach the kill screen. TGs own record books from the 80s and 90s mention the kill screen and how it can't be passed. Hell the "how to beat pacman" book from 1982 has a whole section on the kill screen. Billy doesn't even understand why it happens - he says it's because the game runs out of memory to draw the last board, but that's not true. It's because it tries to draw fruit everywhere on the right side of the board. However the alleged perfect pacman game, yeah he was at least 3rd. In fact TG changed the rules so Billy could argue he was the only person to do it specifically that way - prior to Billy, you had to do all pacman score attempts on default settings h 3 lives + 1 bonus. However Billy's perfect was on 5 + 1 settings, so he could get the highest possible score with the regenerating dots.

[@medes5597]

​@@totallynotzokix11_mc21yeah but so did both the previous perfects. Bill Bastable used the dip switches to pause the game, and Randy Tufts parked overnight, possibly for most of the next day. And at the time, for all three, TG guidelines allowed parking if the game could be done so with player functions - so parking pacman overnight after the 4th and final scramble was allowed under pre 2001 rules.

[@kenon6968]

It is really weird how there seemed to be a concerted effort to write Bill Bastabille out of the picture in those cabalish early days of TG

[@Mathmachine]

Moral of the story: never cheat against nerds. They will find the most minute details that even P.I.s wouldn't think of.

[@rexapis2125]

Mathmachine Speedrunners often do things frame perfect, so why not analyse the frames in a suspected cheater's run..

[@brutusjudas5842]

True story. Never underestimate the nerds.

[@maxim377]

Autism is too powerful, you can't fight against it when it concentrates like this.

[@rexapis2125]

Dede You idiot, the vast majority of people investigating this are not autistic

[@rexapis2125]

Dede You assclown, if that was supposed to be a joke, don't give up your day job, LoL

[@concretecaliban]

Billy Mitchell is like a real life Ben Stiller movie antagonist.

[@KneppaH]

He's like uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite. But worse.

[@humanbean3]

i was thinking adam sandler movie but similar enough

[@Taylor_Lindise]

So I watched King of Kong as a kid and one huge thing that confused me was with the lawyer guy talking about how there needs to be ‘rules to know who the campion is’ in regards to whether that one guys mailed in score was legal or not. It was deemed not legal because a ref wasn’t there to view it. But then Billy Mitchel is able to show his video and it is allowed to be a record? Even as a fucking impudent child this was weird to me. Now even I feel vindicated.

[@MadTheDJ]

Saw KoK as an adult and was like, "They allowed this tape with no authentication or verification, just took Mitchell at his word?! What the hell?"

[@farpointgamingdirect]

I felt the same way. And you can tell that video Silly Bitchell submitted was doctored

[@evanabbott2737]

These lying, scumbag nerds…😂

[@sorrenblitz805]

He's got low friends in high places

[@radbradboy2319]

He made sure maximum pressure was put on Walter in front of cameras to make him cave and not make a fuss, politics of a coward

[@thegreathadoken6808]

No, not Billy Mitchell! He seemed so honest, likeable and not in the slightest bit conspiratorial...

[@itzlio3livion]

The Great Hadoken No but he cheated on all of the games he got a world record on

[@thegreathadoken6808]

ツLio3LivioN Mitchell was a cheat? Say it ain't so. Btw, do you know for sure he cheated on EVERY game he got a WR on, or just DK and DKJ?

[@itzlio3livion]

Well I just assumed that he cheated on every game (which he probably did) as he cheated in the DK and DKJ games, and Pacman was the next in line

[@thegreathadoken6808]

ツLio3LivioN You know, at one time Mitchell really WAS the greatest arcade player in the world, he actually made his name uncovering a cheat back in the early 80's. I suspect that he earned the vast majority of his records over the years perfectly honestly. Of course, having made his name and his fortune on being known as the greatest arcade gamer alive, when the new generation came along, with access to MAME, with a fresh set of skills having been forged in the fires of modern gaming as well as having access to all those rock-hard old games on tap no quarters required, and with a hunger to achieve that simply cannot be rivalled by anyone except other young men, he lost his edge and decided to turn to the dark side. He could have marketed himself as a legend, done the circuit, made some money playing DK and DKJ and all the other games by appointment for crowds of cooing gamers but he had to fuck it all up trying to keep up with hungrier, but only very slightly more skillful guys. My point is, Mitchell really IS a very, VERY good player. One in a million, even now. Don't let these recent revelations take that away too. And he likely earned many records legitimately, certainly to begin with, probably for many years after, and some maybe even now, although it's fair enough to delete ALL his records since one cannot tell legit from not, which is his own damn stupid fault.

[@itzlio3livion]

Well, I guess that's true. He probably was a good player at those games back in the day, and yes, he did fuck up trying to seem better. Point taken. 👍

[@sanctifizzle]

I've watched this video dozens of times since you uploaded it. It's surreal watching this with the bits from Apollo Legend as well as everything that's happened with Billy and Apollo since all this started. RIP Apollo. Keep this video uploaded. It's a piece of preserved history at this point.

[@wakeupFFS2012]

If someone looks like the seediest second-hand car salesman you've ever met then the chances are....

[@SegaDream131]

that they have stds.....

[@MrFutago87]

You say the technical stuff is dry and boring but I find that strangely fascinating.

[@Bitscreed]

I find a lot of it strangely fascinating too, but I wanted to make this story a bit more accessible for people who don't. Blame the countless pairs of eyes I've seen glaze over at the mere mention of words like "RAM" or "mouse pointer."

[@ultimaIXultima]

I gotta agree. The technical stuff is what makes the bread and butter of the story. Sure, it might be dry for some, but perhaps it could have been added at the end, "for those who want to see it". Just a suggestion.

[@rhaeven]

@@ultimaIXultima If you haven't already, I'd definitely check out the videos on Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell by the youtuber Bitscreed quoted, Apollo Legend. His content is for fans of speedrunning, so he goes into a lot more technical detail than here.

[@dem0n0maniac]

I love what a train wreck into a dumpster fire the whole thing is. He is STILL fighting, just keeps doubling down.

[@dereksbooks]

The Jussie Smollett of Donkey Kong arcade gaming.

[@herr_crustovsky]

you deserve way more subs/recognition. I love to see people sit down and rationally assess all sides and talk gentlemanly about a dispute, instead of the snarky and hate-filled way of conducting such discussions on the internet these days.

[@JonathanXLindqviust]

You forget that he vehemently smeared his accusers, a cheater proven to be a cheater who has no remorse deserves no pity and not a single record to his name because he brings shame to the game.

[@MK-bi1hj]

And now he's suing anyone who even speaks of him. Apollo Legend,Twin Galaxies, Guinness, even someone who literally dedicated 1 line of a video to him, Karl Jobst.

[@DeathEgg666]

Billy genuinely seems like a well created villain from a film or something lol

[@ninjasolidsnake]

He looks like a caricature of a used car salesman.

[@3dmaster205]

Peter Dinklege's character in Pixels is inspired by him.

[@whatzittooya9012]

He seems like he'd be played by Ben Stiller.

[@KneppaH]

He's uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite.

[@DeathEgg666]

@@KneppaH no he isn't haha that is Jon Gries

[@Anradak]

13:03 i love how you showed billy's crappy sauce when you sayed the words "lack of consistency"

[@jenniferpruitt6534]

There are rumors of a sequel to The King of Kong. And the timing is perfect if true! King Of Kong 2: The Fall of the King....

[@SAM-ru4vx]

there are 2 other "documentary" about video games featuring billy mitchell.

[@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor]

chasing ghosts

[@Flaxdosh]

And pixel is just a icing on the cake

[@RetroGamesMas]

Hey but he does it again with no cheat..and he show the entire world..that he was no cheater..he does it..u can see the original video..he was on LIVE on a Arcade district.

[@Raindrops668]

I literally just finished watching The King of Kong and can't believe all this happened this year to follow on from it! So glad to hear Billy has been caught he was so sketchy in that doc it was infuriating. Thanks for the video!

[@nout1972]

Billy Mitchell makes a good case in reconsidering the old conviction that you can judge a book by its cover: he looks like a villain so he must be a villain.

[@fearanarchy]

You don't get to determine how much I want to know about Donkey Kong Jr arcade boards. I want to know about the diets of the personnel who crafted and loved theose boards. Did they have a carb heavy or protein heavy diet? When they went home were they asked about their day, or did they expend all the ,over they had to give into their craft? ...We need MORE, deeper dives into those arcade boards. Good video, I found it very well paced and didn't dwindle.

[@mharm734]

Its not Billy's fault that the mandela effect replaced all his footage using a real donkey Kong machine with mame footage.

[@nejiham1272]

mharm734 nice one

[@gregmcgregginton574]

This is actually a good one to use, I'd resort to that if I was Billy

[@djbneozen]

Man. Great comment!

[@SegaDream131]

EES BEEN MANDELERED MATE!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Sly_Maverick_31]

Don't forget about the human element.

[@girspiritbanelord6322]

... My god that toaster is EASILY the greatest random character ever! He made that DLC for me!

[@morten5939]

Impressive how every damn youtuber and his mother "feels pity" or compassion towards this dude; And not A SINGLE ONE mentions the supposed friends who he stole the spotlight from. Imagine being Rick Fothergill, who was superior to "billy mitchell" at the game but in the spirit of competition they agreed to keep competing the next time they met. While he honored it, the cheater immediately went to another arcade to have unlimited tries to get it done. He has spent DECADES capitalizing on other peoples achievements and whenever the scorn people speak out they are openly attacked by his loyalists, defamed and treated like shit. Yet when this menace, this leech and vulture have been rightfully removed from the scoreboard he lied to get into; not a single word is spoken in their defense but everyone talks about how they feel sorry for this person. Thats more fitting for a sociopath than a normal person. PS; you mention the splicing of video; that was debunked in the thread. Those "cuts" came from the low quality transfer method the video went through (most probably it was Dwayne Richards who, when VHS videotaping the score from his tv screen. it was not a part of the conclusion done by twin galaxies. PSS; "billy" mitchell is also a owner and on the board of directors of that "gaming magazine". thats just how these huxters act; they always make sure to have a position where they could stop "mean words" from spreading. I have yet to see a video dedicated to the actual victims of billy mitchells insane egotrip and not about this scam/conartist.

[@Igneeka]

Well Billy really is a major asshole so I can see why he's pissed off

[@eblizzard2842]

Agreed, I've known people like Billy in my own life and I stayed away from any kind of interaction with them. I did watch the King of Kong documentary years back when it first came out, and just by looking at the guy I knew something was off about him. Appearance (gasp!) and demeanor can be extremely revealing about a person. Automatically after seeing him, his body language, and listening to him talk I knew I couldn't give this guy the time of day if I knew him. I couldn't talk to him without laughing in his face, simply because of how ridiculous he is and how seriously he takes himself. Now a few years later seeing all this stuff about cheating and all this nonsense, it comes as no surprise. Typically, sociopaths like this are extremely arrogant and self aware. But, they are completely unaware of how obvious they are. This guy is an awful liar, and his manipulation tactics are so transparent it's painful to watch feeble minds slobber all over his dick. It's sad really, that someone so pathetic as Billy can so easily manipulate people desperate for someone to look up to. This kind of person has pathological issues and it's unfortunate that it's so easy for this type to lead a herd so willing to follow.

[@Dovah21]

He'll get no sympathy from me, that's for sure. Billy Mitchell being a scumbag would be obvious to anyone with a semi-functional bullshit detector and paid even passing attention to his behavior in King of Kong. Guy's an manipulative, childish asshole and good riddance to him.

[@flameconvoy7424]

Morten Apollo legend had zero sympathy and called him a total scumbag

[@TKUltra971]

Billy is a fraud and a con. Shows over for him. This didn't help his publicity or his fame. If anything its turned attention towards twin galaxies and the much needed scrutiny of the classic gaming scene.

[@ShaneusSnake]

You knocked this video out of the park. Informative, humorous and even-keeled. The interstitials of Walter Day theatrically calling the fouls were hilarious .

[@justinwagers7440]

this is the first video i've seen from you as a youtube creator and it's honestly for me like watching a very well laid out documentary you'd find on tv. I've sat through the whole thing and was generally interested in watching every second. Very well done sir, look forward to checking out your other videos. Subscribed!

[@3rdAgeSoap]

I've heard this story hundreds of times. Watching Apollo Legend tear into everything in each video was fantastic. And this one was very good as well

[@lusafur950]

yeah Apollos videos where great and now they are gone .So I hope Mitchells lawsuit did NOT make Apollo take them down

[@darklsn]

I fucking love when you make these videos. You can really see that a lot of work goes into them. You do like 30 second one takes which I really appreciate. You speak very fluidly and convey ideas very well in them.

[@Bitscreed]

Thanks darklsn!

I disagree with letting him keep is supposed legit scores. If you cheat once, you should be out completely because at the very least this type of policy acts as a deterrent to cheating.

[@GetBenched2010]

After the last buyout of TG, the ENTIRE REFEREE ROSTER needed to be shown the door immediately. Day and his cronies were so corrupt that Twin Galaxies' records are ALL suspect.

[@rileywilliams4972]

"I guess when you have enough money you can create whatever you want." Brutal, Roy. Love it.

[@cellardoor7500]

THE best coverage of this whole drama. Thank you. Fascinating details.

[@187mrsmith]

You are the 🐐 for using that Omar from The wire clip 😂 RIP Omar AKA Micheal Williams

[@talic-os5899]

Peter Dinklage was such a great choice to play this guy in Pixels

[@JeanMarceaux]

God damn it, can Jace Hall become any more based? The more I learn of him, the more I'm astounded. Add.: "If you've stuck around for all this, congratulations, you now know more than you've probably ever cared for about Donkey Kong arcade boards" was an unapologetically ashens moment, the delivery and the wording and the facial expression and everything.

[@thenortonanti]

One of the best videos on what's been going on in the Donkey Kong world. While it's not in as others depth, it's easily understood and hit's all the notes it needs to be to be accurate and not misleading. I'm impressed.

[@davetindell4110]

Saw Mr. MITCHELL at the Nashville Music Comic Con and Kumite in Tennessee this past weekend. He had a booth. Literally NO ONE came to talk to him. He was treated like a stray dog, with more contempt.. My girlfriend asked why I didn't talk to him. I showed her the "kings of kong". She said "he's slime, glad we didn't talk to that cheater."

[@snooganslestat2030]

Haha how sad!

[@RetrofIex]

I would of asked for a photo just to be ironic but billy would probably charge $$ for it

[@davetindell4110]

@@RetrofIex they were $20. I elected to pass.

[@caslaBBalsac]

0:46 OH MY GOSH!! Now I get the purpose of that character from pixels. He was a satire of Bill Mitchell. And people say that movie had no layers.................

[@ChiliHorse27]

21:43 look at how Billy is standing. He’s taking a huge power stance and puffing out his chest so he can impress the woman who’s interviewing him 😒

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

Weird I find is that when the Wiebe vs Mitchell battle was going there wasn't a rule like "no show no win". Wiebe showed up and was ready to compete. The VHS stuff of Mitchell is just pathetic, he knew Wiebe was better. In all sports to my knowledge you become world champion by competing 101. Mitchell just had found a way to wheezle himself into a competition where he could change the rules when competition got better than him. When I first saw Bill Mitchell all bells went off and all red flags were waving. This guy has mental issues is what I thought.

[@timothye.2902]

the difference here is that the two were not competing in the "standard" way compared to a sports game, where two teams actually oppose eachother's progress. With speedrunning or getting a high score, there's no need to do so at a specific time or location (as long as the gameplay is legitimate) and you're not competing with just one person, and no one is activly opposing your progress. speedrunning or highscoring is just a display of mechanical skill and RNG (where applicable) boiled down to a number and then compared with other numbers made over the course of history under the same parameters. Any requirement to use specific hardware, or have witnesses/footage, is to prove the numbers legitimate, not to create the ability to play in the first place (as with sports).

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

Wiebe showed up in front of Bill's lawn. The coward never showed up. Wiebe is my man, he is relaxed and intelligent in a good way!

[@AndrewAmbrose]

Mike Hydropneumatic my dad was also angered about that when he saw The King of Kong

[@orangejoe204]

Frankly, both of them are Aspergers cases. No other human being could develop the devout dedication and pinpoint fascination with high-scoring on such an old game. But Wiebe came off as a normal Aspie nerd whereas Mitchell clearly also has Narcissistic Personality Disorder; he literally wakes up every morning and thinks of ways to "get what he's due" for being the awesome Ubermensch he is, it's just that the stuff he feels he's owed by the world are all really nerdy Aspie shit like holding a world record for fucking Donkey Kong... In a way, he's terribly sad. The dude's immaculately dressed, obsessed with appearance vs. fact, a masterful bullshit artist, and able to lie the way normal people breathe; why isn't he a professional gambler or a hedge fund manager, driving a Ferrari and banging cocktail waitresses 3 at a time? Oh right. The Aspergers. The obsession. It's real. It's why he genuinely won his first award, then probably sat up for 48 hours blowing cocaine and muttering "Now, how to KEEP it....forever! hmmmmmmmm." He's like autistic Gollum.

[@alaeriia01]

There's no need to declare Wes Copeland's 1.218M world record as "really nerdy Aspie shit". It's a legitimate world record. How many world records do you have? I am ashamed to share a name with you.

[@andeggbreaks]

One of the most helpful summaries of the situation, cheers!

[@UnboxRacing]

In the midst of this absurd controversy, you have charted a brilliant course. Fantastic documentary, Thank you

[@flipndip5122]

This guy is still lying on his twitter and still has fans backing him. What a pathetic human being. To be able to sit there and lie to people that trust you, to cameras.. It's honestly psychopathic

[@jameson32]

Nah, you are being overly dramatic and looking too much into this. He's more of a sociopath :P

[@Bldyiii]

So the movie Pixels by Adam Sandler, that everyone hates, got it right??

[@WarlockX4]

Leonid Denisenko Yes. I thought the exact same thing. Got to give them respect for calling it early.

[@dr.funkenstein9790]

It was a scam

[@Andystuff800]

Right that he cheated, but there is still no eay to cheat the way he did in the movie.

[@DarkkirbyKRPG]

There's a character that rivals Young Adam Sandler in a video game competition back in the 80s. The character is played by Peter Dinklage, who bears a resemblance to Billy Mitchell. It all comes down to Sandler and Dinklage in a competition to reach a specific score in Pacman first, and Dinklage does it first. It is revealed at around the climax of the movie, decades later, that Peter had cheated. That's how Pixels "called" it.

[@uselessDM]

Everything that was original came from a previous video they got "inspiration" from.

[@SouthwesternEagle]

This is a classic example of why honesty pays off and prevails. Being dishonest will cost you everything in the end.

[@LateNightTableCo]

“…A dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it’s the honest one you want to watch out for, because you never know when they’re going to do something incredibly…stew-pid.” -Capt. Jack Sparrow

[@Anradak]

i feel sorry for roy schmidt, for many years he was the butt of the arcade community, everything he said was considered a joke. but as a common saying says "when a crazy person says something dont get surprised if he ends being right"

[@CurieBohr]

Do an update on this. So much new information has come to light

[@jimmyhuddleston1079]

It seems simple to solve this.... Billy Mitchell needs to beat the records again and have film footage of the entire event, and witnesses. If he is as good as he claims it should be easy for him to do... Right?

[@RPGManoWar]

Well it's not just about breaking the records now, two of the records being disputed were "First to reach 1mil in Pac-Man" and "First to reach 1mil in Donkey Kong". As it turns out, Mitchell was not the first to do either of these. I'm sure he could break those records now, but at the time, he was not the first. He took those records from the 2 people who actually deserve them

[@Segastar1]

i've seen recent videos of him playing pacman, he knows how to play it well, pretty well but his reputation is forever tarnished. There's a huge documentary here on youtube that goes into how big that scandal went as well as how Billy Mitchell was all part of a big PR stunt that actually kept the real record holders from being recognized. (Apollo Legend's videos talk about the guy who made the documentary for a small budget) It's all so sad to hear about

[@humanbean3]

i can match the records of hundreds of games with 2 weeks practice if we're talking about matching decade old scores... this would actually make it more obvious to me that he cheated, if he has to try hard to merely match a decade old score.

[@SmeagolTheBeagle]

Thanks for this video mate it was exactly what i was looking for. Decent length breakdown all the important details and British narration. Cheers matey!

[@Nero-pe4yq]

Billy looks like the real life counterpart of the weird guy nerdy magic guy that Bobby was hanging out with from king of the hill

[@Loner2012AT]

Nice video! You really did a great job bringing all the elements of this amazing story together. Plus - I laughed out loud several times so extra props for that! Keep it up!

[@kamekakarot]

"Player Fortknown's Battlenite" XD I'm subscribing to you, this was a great video. Billy Mitchell always struck me as a cocky, smug bastard.

[@NetRolller3D]

Actually, his "first Pac-Man split screen" is also not legitimate. While he did reach the split screen, he did so over a decade after the actual first perfect score in 1984 (split screen was probably reached by other players way before that).

[@djennings802]

The word fibber sounds a lot more hurtful in a British accent

[@legebertplinkett4284]

Ya a lot of mundane words sound like curses with the right British accent.

[@TheWickedArcade]

Fibba lol

[@avagueblur]

What a fibbin rotta

[@yamabushi170]

Ah but conversely our American cousins do sexy talk on a level we can never hope to attain. Have you ever watched a British porn? "cum on baaayb, shuv it reyt up mi arse". *shudder*

[@scottbreon9448]

What about a German accent? LOL

[@paulquaife7974]

There is no pity for Billy, RIP Apollo

[@OldieWan]

This is a very well made video! The way you told the story and dove into the deepest sections of the pool had me interested all the way through. Thank you for this video. You earned yourself a new subscriber this evening Pixel Burn. As an old school gamer I look forward to checking out much more of your content.

[@Bitscreed]

Thank you very much!

[@OldieWan]

Bitscreed, You are very welcome! But in all truth, THANK YOU! You have a real talent for story telling, and doing you tube videos. And most of all you have taken the time to give your thanks to those who have come to send you this praise. This is why I no longer have cable TV in my home. Places like you tube has filled the void of the time I would spend mindlessly watching programs that could honestly care less about their viewers. Keep up the good work. I shall be around, watching within the dark corners of the room. Very rarely do I speak up, or comment. However when I do, I try to offer some meaning and share my interest in something that you clearly have put a lot of work into. Your effort and time spent shows. It does not fall on blind eyes and deaf ears. Have a great day today!

[@Bitscreed]

Thank you, and I'm sorry I missed this follow-up reply because it's greatly appreciated. This video has gotten rather a lot more attention than I'm used to and many of the more constructive comments have sadly got lost in the noise.

[@rhaeven]

This video actually doesn't go that far into some details, particularly about Todd. Also, anyone found to have ever used a honkler avatar is getting the wall.

[@Tomn8er]

This was very well presented. Informative and entertaining! Good stuff dude

[@tristanbaravraham6349]

This is exactly the kind of video that makes me love KZbin. Many very smart, even brilliant folks out there and I get to hear their opinions and ideas. Well done and please rock on. I been an IT guy since NT 4 in the beginning it was all swingers, fan clubs, and universities. I never dreamed it would get this good.

[@silentc1015]

Very interesting! Thanks for creating and publishing this

[@ISOTROPOSPHERE]

Here's too all the folks who have the knowledge to keep the original arcade games up and running, thank you. I kind of hope that the current record holder shown here had a hand in restoring the very machine he set it on.

[@billyed]

This is a good video. I like how you don’t have, like, fake excitement but the video still has a good pace. Good job.

[@Bound4Earth]

To be fair, Billy Mitchell admitted as much in King of Kong. It just took a lot of people another decade or so to figure it out. Video games are meant to be played in a competitive environment, under pressure, organized, where you have to perform, literally on demand. And when you do that, you have far more credibility then someone who says "oh I did that last week (you saw the glitched video tape I made instead of performing live that was merely a copy with no master). No matter how good you play Tennis, no matter how good you play golf, If you don't play when you have to play, if you don't play when the pressure is on, you're really not good enough. - Billly Mitchell

[@mathiasmoser4102]

Ahrg, whats the name of the game at 22:39, the one after mrs. pacman? I played a game looking very much like it on the 6502 oric systems, but I can't remember the name....

[@Bitscreed]

That’s ye olde arcade classic Defender.

[@mathiasmoser4102]

Found it, the 6502 version was called "Defence Force", written by Andrew Moore and published in 1983 by Tansoft, definitely a Defender clone. Thanks for the heads up.

[@TipsterLIVE]

Great video on the subject. Keep it up! 👍

[@suicidalbanananana]

Just 3 months after the facts...

[@matthewmcallister9354]

I dunno how I came across your channel but really good job, you have a good voice and cadence for this commentary stuff

[@lifeofatwindad8700]

Anyone else pop on and watch this again due entirely to how much they dislike silly bitchell? Roy Shultz had him figured out years ago.

[@madsntay5060]

Your content is incredible. Your commentary is top notch. Please keep making content

[@GottaLoveCheese]

Personally, I think his scores were legit until he submitted the 1,000,000+ score. In the film, Walter questions Billy and mentions over the phone that Billy wasn't originally officially submitting the score. I think he was sending it for the ego of being able to say he was the worlds number 1 and it wasn't even his highest score. But when Steve took the top spot he left himself no option but to submit it or it would only have raised more questions as to why he wasn't submitting it. And while losing all his clearly legit records is harsh, sitting on top of a throne for so many years when you cheated to get there is more harsh on people like Steve.

[@Sheene76]

Gotta love the internet. Bored earlier this evening, i did a search for underrated movies. As i mis-spent my youth in arcades, The King of Kong jumped out at me as something to look at. At the end i was left asking myself questions about the High score submitted by Billy being accepted instantly while Steve's tape was disputed because.. petty reasons. Great video!!

[@hexangel1523]

They need to release a special edition DVD of King Of Kong that plays this before the credits roll.

[@archimusprime2400]

Why did you stop making vids Bitscreed? Just found your channel and loved this Billy Michell video.

[@Bitscreed]

Life and other RL stuff threw a massive spanner in the works. Thank you for your kind comment though. :)

[@archimusprime2400]

Ugh, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you and your family are safe and healthy.

[@FancyGeeks]

There actually also proof that he wasn't the first to get a perfect pac-man score either. There were at least two others.

[@urielgrey]

Hope you are doing amazing! It's amazing how time flies that I've been a fan for over 6 years! Happy new year and i hope you and yours are doing well!

[@MarquisdeSuave]

So basically Adam Sandler was ahead of the curve when he wrote the character of Eddie Plant, the cheater.

[@monstalova]

You know Pixels came out 8 years after King of Kong. The doco basically implied Billy was a cheater the whole time, even from a kid.

[@mynerdyacademia5996]

Great video my man!!

[@broken1394]

This is an awesome fall. Everybody loves a good baddie. Technology caught up with Todd and Billy. If Pac man was done in public it's still damn impressive to me. It's probably right that he was disqualified across the board. King of Kong was wonderful ... Hope someone will update it, maybe a new version with recent documentaries tagged in the extras. Good job on this video. 👌♥️

[@mnxmode]

Great video mate! I don't know how in the hell you don't have more subscribers!

[@darklsn]

I'm only 18 mins in but god damn is this an emotional roller coaster.

[@weaselboyjenkins3931]

Why? Why? Why did KZbin start showing me these videos? Now I’m officially hooked and I can’t stop watching. Great video.

[@spacecowboy6667]

Very well presented and factual. Great job 👍😊

[@seanmcclure]

It has gotten so much worse. Many many more lies surfaced. Scandals. Lawsuits. Billy is the worst.

[@defrok6673]

You have no idea how happy I was to see this vid. Team Wiebe.

[@ianboylan1981]

Fantastic video. You are very good at telling a story and presenting facts well. It's a shame your sub count doesn't reflect your work quality and dedication. I subbed anyway in case you ever decide to do more videos like this one. I know this must have taken you an incredible amount of time to make and research everything so it is highly appreciated. So far I had only really seen Karl Jobsts videos of Billy, but you are easily as great at compiling facts and telling it like it is. Kudos.

[@Asterra2]

Billy's perfect Pac-Man was witnessed by a single reporter he brought in strictly for that purpose. Assuming he did in fact do it, he did so because he was in a rush to beat some other guy with whom he had formed an agreement not to make the attempt until a set date when they would both try. He broke that promise, and obviously only reaped rewards for doing so. There is also evidence of someone else having achieved the perfect score in the early 80s.

[@TKUltra971]

Billy's pac man score was witnessed by no one. It was another case of a 'phone call to walter' to have the score put in the books. And a ton of other facts. Still not sure people are saying there was someone there watching that score.

[@WakenerOne]

At least TWO other people had a perfect Pac-Man score in the 80s. The letter from Namco congratulating the one gentleman (whose name I cannot recall at the moment) includes mention that someone else had done it before HIM.

[@ExperimentIV]

@@WakenerOne is there anywhere I could see that letter? it'd be pretty cool to read that letter!

[@WakenerOne]

@@ExperimentIV I don't know about the actual letter, but I can tell you what it said. The text might be enough for you to look up an image online. The letter was sent to Bill Bastable along with a Ms. Pac-Man T-shirt. This is what the letter dated October 6, 1982 said, “Dear Bill, Congratulations! It has come to my attention that you have achieved a perfect score on our Pac-Man video game. Although we do not keep records of high scores, I have heard of only one other person accomplishing this feat. This places you in a select minority. On behalf of Bally Midway, I would like to commend you on your skill and determination. As a fair game player myself, I realize the hours of practice that must have gone into reaching your level of achievement. Please accept this small token in recognition of your accomplishment. Best regards, BALLY MIDWAY MFG. CO. [signed] Kathy Novak Market Research manager enc."

[@ExperimentIV]

@@WakenerOne wow, thanks for replying with the text!

[@Paul_Ivanish]

Nice analysis. When I watched King of Kong, I gave no second thought to the idea of the happenings behind the scenes. To me, the end of that documentary was the end of it, and that was that. Since then, I've watched a couple of videos on the topic, and I knew Wiebe was no longer the top score. Your video, however, has revealed much more and shed light on several more aspects on the topic. Very good video. Thanks for making it. Have my sub!

[@jackofallgames3097]

I laughed my ass off when Walter mentioned Billy being like a jedi because he himself was weak minded and being controlled

[@roebbiej]

Your presentation is amazing dude :)

[@KassFireborn]

A++ Silent Hill reference. I'm glad you've finally gotten patreon. I've been basically mentally ticking off some money to give you for ages; I really feel like you deserve more recognition/exposure than you're getting. I can legit say you're the best thing the Slaughtering Grounds ever did for me.

[@Penfold8]

I'm surprised Mitchell hasn't setup a frivolous lawsuit against you.

[@cyryc]

5:45 Hurray for Robert Mruczek! He's a fan/customer of mine in the past and was flabbergasted to see him in King of Kong. I could see those packages in the background, makes me wonder if my Dead or Alive art commissions are back there.

[@ConradZimmerman]

He shows off some of his (considerable) art collection in another documentary, Chasing Ghosts, so, mayhaps.

[@cyryc]

maki - has nothing to do with my penis, you sicko. Maybe if you were self-employed, you'd get a humorous thrill in suddenly finding random customers pop up in unexpected situations.

[@cyryc]

Conrad - lol just saw another clip of his art collection. Yep, lots of pinup art ;)

[@Bitscreed]

I'm just chiming in to say I'm very much looking forward to the King of Kong episode of The Spin-off Doctors.

[@ninjaswordtothehead]

Billy Mitchell looks like a magician who quit doing weekly shows at a Best Western to go work on a really cheap cruise ship.

[@Ultragamer63]

Why are you guys talking about my boi Garret Bobby Furgesson?

[@KO-eu6jv]

As a competitive scorer in arcade games, I’ve always dreamt of an organization that would hold arcade tournaments today, or that recorded modern high scores on old games. I would hope to bring together fans of arcade games, and to reward those who were the best. This guy was desperate to cling to his claim to fame, and ruined his reputation cheating to maintain it. He sacrificed the credibility of himself and an organization with promise and good intentions like Twin Galaxies.

[@ChiliHorse27]

That Walter Day guy was brown-nosing Billy Mitchell SO hard. It’s so cringey and odd.

[@BLASTIC0]

i cant get enough of this story... i just found out about it.

[@ryandee6498]

I'd be pissed at twin galaxies, if I were Steve Wiebe

[@handofahhh9012]

Great video. I enjoyed it mutchly