Plague Song Remastered | Hammer and Bolter Breakdown | Episode 10

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[@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven]

You know that transformation is painful when the Deathguard screams in agony.

[@Counterpoints]

My thoughts exactly

[@anonymerdude5306]

By that Pain a normal Male Human would have his Nuts popd

[@Jestnarr]

Plague marines dont feel pain, except when the author wishes them to do.

[@Counterpoints]

@@Jestnarr or when they lose the blessing of the grandfather

[@JackWendigo1234]

​@Jestnarr They can if Nurgle stops cutting off their nerve reception.....or if they get cut off from the warp altogether.... Three of them got trapped on a planet (I think Macraug) after the rest of their forces were pushed back into the warp. When the gate/portal shut, they were in AGONY until ultramarines finished them.

[@Ave_Christus_Rex37]

Love this episode. It paints the Chaos gods as some Lovecraftian entity and Eldridge abomination And really gives a spotlight to how horrifying the 40k Galaxy is

[@Counterpoints]

I like the variety of tones in 40k like it can be 80s action or the worst horror story you've ever heard and they coexist in the name universe

[@ameliahensel4906]

It’s so hard to really like Nurgle or other chaos gods when they treat their loyal servants as sacrificial pawns even though they are only loyal

[@dantauche7917]

​​@@ameliahensel4906I mean...it's hard to like the chaos gods PERIOD...at ALL lol for reasons innumerable to list!

[@1noduncle]

someones been paying attentio

[@Fuzzylemonade222]

@@ameliahensel4906 you can say the same exact thing about the imperium lmao

[@commissarAurelion]

May the grey knights grant the emperor's mercy to his loyal servants

[@ajollyduck]

The Battleship that gets destroyed at 10:28 is a Retribution class, it specialises in brawling with three batteries of Heavy Plasma Macro batteries on its broadsides, 8 torpedo launchers in the bow and long range Lance turrets along it's Spine. Sporting more crew to counter boarders along with more Damage Control, this allows it to take an immense beating at close range. Notably you can see three Gothic class cruisers, armed with one hangar section and a macro battery on it's broadsides, but it's most notable weapon is the bow mounted Nova Cannon. It being a giant mass-driver that uses arcane technology to fling a shell at immense speeds making it hit within seconds of being fired, then proceeding to detonate like a small sun going super nova.

[@Counterpoints]

Makes me sad we didn’t see it in action

[@ajollyduck]

​@@CounterpointsYeah its sad it didn't get to fire even once

[@generalraam33]

Have you ever watched the ultramarine movie from 2010?

[@Counterpoints]

@@generalraam33 I have, its better than I was told but its not the best either. Kind of like a half decent episode of the Clone Wars padded out to 90 minutes

[@albe8479]

@@Counterpoints yeah it feels like that after Khorne feat of the sector wide chaos conversion wave, Nurgle felt like showing off a bit. or this episode was before the Khorne hack?

[@Baconlazer]

That Plaguebearer taking a chunk of a bite out of the solder caught me off guard 😂👌

[@gabrielmontenegro9476]

Same! For some reason I never even considered a Plaguebearer using anything besides his rusty sword. I wonder if the footsoldiers of the other gods also bite off chunks of their opponents.

[@psychogoreman198]

Still my favourite episode, just for the glimpse into the life of a plague marine and what it truly means to embrace nurgles love

[@martyragemage817]

The irony of a chaos marine calling someone a traitor 😂

[@chaosXP3RT]

Absolutely terrifying! God-Emperor protect us! If there was ever a time to summon the Grey Knights, now would be it!

[@frankcastle9691]

Great video but kinda silly. If 1 nurgle sorcerer could make an entire imperial fleet decay away and make a timeless plague. The imperium would've been destroyed long ago.

[@TheChuckfuc]

Yeah, I try not to think too hard about it.

[@Briselance]

A timeless plague? This is preposterous. It didn't exist before he casted it, so it had a beginning. And since even Nurgle, since even a god can be defeated, so can that "timeless" plague be defeated.

[@slideways_sideways1803]

It was to make them look cool or something honestly it was dumb

[@sebastianrubin7476]

Yes, but it makes sense if you don't take it as the Voice of God spitting absolute facts, but an insane sorcerer grandstanding over his fellow Chaos Marines in an attempt to flaunt his power and favour with the Grandfather - lest they get the idea to coup him the way he did the former leader. As for him corrupting the entire fleet... Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous. But with a corrupted choir of seven astropaths and an entire world sacrificed to Nurgle? I could see it work. It could even destroy the ships before he finished the working, the Warp is fucky-wucky like that. Effect preceding cause is not at all unheard of. My one complaint is that we don't see enough _work_ to justify that outcome. He's not spreading the plagues across the world, inducing cults, performing rituals, no time or effort put into it.... Just hand-wave away an entire task force and the corruption of a whole world. Especially with the Scions guarding the astropaths - that's super-weird, in terms of established lore. They should have given the astropaths the Emperor's Mercy the moment the Deathguard broke through the outer defences, _precisely_ because of what he used them to do.

[@lawrence4301]

its not silly, its just how powerful a sorcerer can be

[@rcarmashelt8528]

Makes me wonder what a khorne, tzeentch or slaanesh ship could do if it go in range of an uncorrupted ship

[@Moldereyes1999]

Khorne is actually the easiest one to answer, since Khorne tends to be the one to raid ships when the Gellar Field drops. The walls groan and leak blood, chanting in eights whispers upon the recycled air. The heat increases by an uncomfortable degree, especially in closer proximity to the Daemons. There’s more, of course, but hey. Too much for a KZbin comment

[@m0n4rch24]

@@Moldereyes1999didn’t we see what could happen with khornate corruption in one of the Arks of Omen books when Angron walks into the reactor?

[@Moldereyes1999]

@@m0n4rch24 ​​⁠Kinda, aye. I guess it really depends.

[@tkyan4284]

Still think Morty will be super pissed if he knew this little wizard sacrificed three Shroud just for a door

[@SteelShroom256]

He'd have to have some very, VERY special treatment from Papa Nurgle to be able to do that without any strong negative repercussions, at least.

[@gonran4661]

Nurgle can spread COVID-19 with WiFi.

[@shadowrunner2510]

Ya know after seeing all that, the Impirium really doesn't seem that bad.

[@strategygame40k179]

It was such a HORROR, Amazing & Intense Episode!

[@lexmortis5722]

I dont care how horrible the other chaos gods are, Nurgle is the most horrifying being in fiction and i would totally worship that dude Thank you for explaining the "demon riddles" to us, that cleared up the episode very well! Great video!

[@Counterpoints]

07 I live to serve!

[@darulezlulez2625]

Never thought Palpatine is such a great Malignant Plaguecaster

[@MrDEMarq]

When I first saw this episode, I was at a total loss how he pulled it off. But now that I somewhat understand that he used the Warp to flux with time, I'm wondering how the Emperim are able to counter this? Thanks again for explaining the lore.👍💯✨️

[@cubaj8723]

Well the forces of Chaos are not the only ones able to meddle with the Warp. The Eldar are very good at seeing the future, and often try to interfere with Chaos when they can. The Imperium are not as good as the Eldar, but they do have a few tricks. Firstly, the Imperium also has ways to see the future and try and prevent or at least prepare for things that are to come. Secondly, there’s a specialist force of Space Marines called the Grey Knights who are all psykers and are specifically designed to counter Chaotic tricks like this. They also have ways to see the future and are probably more resilient to plagues than your average human. Finally, the Emperor is also a god, and is opposed to Chaos. In several books the Emperor has performed miracles to counter chaos. For example, in the Dark Imperium trilogy, there’s a priest called Frater Mathieu who fights alongside Guilliman. He’s just a normal guy who is fighting on a planet infected by Nurgle. He meets up with Guilliman some Custodes and Guilliman comments that he should get a helmet on because even the genetically modified Custodes and Space Marines are afraid of getting sick. He just responds by saying that he’s been fighting all day and he feels fine. Ultimately, most Chaos warbands aren’t going to be able to pull off what happened here, this sorcerer is clearly very special, but the Imperium does have a few ways in which it can respond.

[@alexmason3472]

I love the Chaos focused episodes. They're so interesting.

[@arklaw8306]

That's because you're a HERETIC.

[@SmokesKwazukii]

they always make the forces of Chaos and Chaos Marines look incredibly overpowered lmao

[@LightCrasher]

@@SmokesKwazukiiExactly, and I hate that. Its getting way to predictable and boring.

[@Gunshow0]

@@SmokesKwazukii are they easy to kill and weak? (new to warhammer)

[@Ironbattlemace]

​@@Gunshow0Not at all, one of the hardest things to kill, specifically plague marines are the most durable there is.

[@Jestnarr]

Aww, aint that a cute little time loop little Ephisis found himself in. A short loop of eternal inevitabilitys. Just the way nurgle likes it. A cycle beginning with a plan, playing with action and an ending that becomes the beginning. The very definition of nurgle.

[@DeathGuard4ThePlagueGod]

For the plague god!

[@kulczewski672]

Ew

[@user-kx2rm8ou2k]

HERETIC

[@markomarulic4003]

HERASY!!!

[@markomarulic4003]

HERASY!!

[@hamedabdeljaiwed2897]

I love gramps nurgil

[@senatorarmstrong1474]

So wholesome! Papa Nurgle really is very kind to his followers!

[@dantauche7917]

Good episode except for the massive imperial fleet literally disintegrating within moments and not a true shot fired. Nurgle does not work fast so I thought that was a HUGE weak point in the episode. I could accept the fleet slowly decaying and turning to "chaos" as they gradually come closer, but the instant vaporization of every ship at once?? Come on....

[@doomhound5723]

I think the show was trying to show that because in the past (aka the future) the curse that was going to happen was spread at a crazy rate because those ships have and always been consumed by the plague. It just wasn’t time yet. It is just weird time stuff that can be used as a thing saying, “it happened once at some point and therefore now always will and has happened”.

[@SteelShroom256]

In the Warp, anything goes.

[@harleyfagan9637]

Counterpoints really saying "heart for the bot gods" in these comments 😂 Awesome Ep, one of my favorites that you've covered.

[@Counterpoints]

Heart for the algorithm throne

[@saeyabor]

Bro got swallowed whole and still screaming by one of his own new heads.

[@darthangarus2305]

One of the best episodes. Especially since it completely does away with the whole "Nurgle is the only good Chaos God" delusion some people have. He doesn't care about life, or any of his followers, no more than Tzeentch or Slaanesh do. He and his Daemons are sadistic eldritch horrors that will cast aside and sacrifice those who worship them loyally. Morior got Chaos Spawn'ed because he didn't meet his "quota", and Septus got sacrificed shortly after being "upgraded" by Ephisis, while the familiar Nex (basically acting as Nurgle's representative) laughs scornfully. So much of "Grandpa Nurgle's kindness".

[@MrDEMarq]

Thanks again for the translation.

[@kinosaga21]

this is what chaos should be, specially the gods and their influence, beyond mortal comprehension, Lovecraft in nature, i wish this would become the norm for chaos lore (as much as i loathe to say this); this would be an amazing opponent instead of the joke that some books have made chaos into. (i also understand that it depends on the writer, but wish there was more concistancy)

[@badanalysis]

This one was crazy, great job bro.

[@kreedsutherland4207]

Just finished painting Mortarion for my Death guard, and I can't wait for him to get killed turn 1 due to the dreaded painters curse!

[@waywardstoner9416]

11:22 I think this is the first time I see you reacting with genuine shock

[@eldritchmorgasm4018]

This was... interesting. Something similar should be done with the Tyranids, no talking, of course.

[@painthegreat]

When a Deathguard writhes and screams in pain. You know it’s a fate worse than death. And you know you messed up when the grandfather doesn’t do anything to mend it

[@themadhatter34]

Sad gw don't surrport their fans and continues to attack the very people who made it where it is today. This is a master pace of art and shouldn't have been taken down

[@iamlegion3093]

This was my first episode I ever watched that got me hooked on your/their series. I remember being like holy shit this is intense, I must watch more. Now I see the gift the God Emperor of knowledge has given me. Many thanks for your vids getting me into 40K …for the Emperor

[@Counterpoints]

07 I live to serve and thank you for the comment

[@Zdrajev]

Really good stuff!

[@FilipeLima15]

Bro the channel Flashgitz made an animated cartoon parody of the Warhammer universe named: Space King , you should really react to it

[@t3uss536]

O sorriso dele quando aquele demônio rasga brutalmente o pescoço daquele soldado é impagável😀💀

[@AndrewPatterson-xq4qk]

the garden was oddly beautiful

[@caseyjfromli3240]

About to play some darktide to get revenge for our fallen brothers and sisters who were taken by the foul Plague God

[@Wu.Tang.Financial]

Where is the opening animation from, looks like a lamenter is actually getting to cook!

[@Counterpoints]

Astartes 2 trailer

[@brunneng38]

I can almost imagine what this episode looked like😂😂

[@JohnnyRico118]

This is my favorite Hammer and Bolter episode, but it's one that I can't find to pirate lol.

[@ryuhanja3415]

My main complaint about this episode is how stupidly overpowered this makes Nurgles followers like if he can just wipe out an entire Navy like that how hasn’t he just won the war

[@raemmelparker9012]

Their voices are questionable but acceptable also

[@slideways_sideways1803]

People will say they don’t want to win but honestly it feels they went got the rule of cool rather than anything else.

[@TheCaredawg]

I like what ya do, and I wanna see more of this man. FUCK YEAH!

[@dwyanecelestial7354]

I always thought plague marines are always joyful disease spreaders but this revealed to me that they sometimes get pissy with each other!

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

Nex"remember...my grandfather is generous..but cross and fail him...and you will pay for it..hee hee hee hahahahah"!

[@appalachianwarcriminal]

seven is a number of good omens (for the grandfather, not for you.)

[@VSharKS89]

The astropath is 7 people, guess nurgle favorite number

[@simonmiller5351]

it is a very happy story

[@jackgrove4621]

I want to know is how would the grey knights undo this

[@Counterpoints]

They would shoot it and stab it a lot

[@user-ng4cs4jq3j]

What will the death guard action if the necrons answer thier call

[@thebigm7558]

I don´t know that episode is one giant polthole. If nurgle can send plages via the astropaths why not do that constantly?

[@Counterpoints]

Because the Dark Gods don’t want to ever truly win because it ends the game.

[@Izzyduude]

How does the Imperial Navy counter a plague ship? Long range laser turrets?

[@albe8479]

Damn Nurgle that day woke up and chose mayem. A little to unfair the entire rusting of an entire sector fleet though

[@VictorianTimeTraveler]

Clearly inspired by the Shoggoth from the the Mythos of Robert E Howard and HP Lovecraft. :) I love it

[@FredderHoskin]

The videos are great, even though GW has made you gut most of these episodes. A small suggestion, maybe shrink the camera bubble by half? Some of these videos are cut off from detail cause of the large bubble.

[@smoth7]

Brilliant animation, they pulled it?!?!

[@themainman2827]

10:08 This is wrong. Imperial voidships dont have cannons or torpedo tubes on the "wings", they were sensor arrays.

[@anonymerdude5306]

Wasnt this an OG Grey Knight that set the Garden of Nurgle on Fire ? I mean a really bad ahh Double OG Grey Knight

[@nickarmstrong3032]

That's how wizards play chess.

[@shawdcummings2160]

the STC for bleach needs to be found

[@chrisd7803]

So basically what the Night Lords did, but with Astropaths instead of a Navigator

[@voodooozo3755]

Poor imperium fleet, they had to face chaos plot bullshittery head on..

[@lawrencemotions8720]

Awesome

[@MalakAlMaut6860]

Send in the gray knights it's about to get real 😂👍

[@spartten1784]

Wait so does that mean the plauge Marines beat the imperium? What is the area of the galaxy affected?

[@Counterpoints]

Probably just a system in the scourge stars that the grey knights will have to deal with. Its the whole fuggin galaxy after all. Billions get wiped out and its barely a footnote in Imperial history

[@spartten1784]

@Counterpoints Thanks! I'm still fresh to Warhammer, so this has all been really good. Love your channel also as a fellow Vet.

[@TheEyez187]

What's the intro from, I want to watch that! >XD

[@windless4770]

The floods twin brother

[@noahsawyer7155]

Kinda of wished they had Typhus instead of the sorcerer.

[@Counterpoints]

Same, what an a hole

[@edwardoavila7666]

arent deathshroud's names scrubbed from service records in the death guard? how did he know the terminator's name?

[@nikitaromanovsikis9640]

Maybe he gave him one

[@dwazigfruit]

Why is Nurgle the grandfather? Who is the father? The emperor?!?

[@kylefraser3741]

Have you done a video about how dune could fit into the 40k universe?

[@Counterpoints]

No but I will

[@nimroddominice4048]

Nurgle's love shields us!! As a Nurgle and Death Guard fan, this episode hit me in the right, puss filled spots ✨.

[@bradrankin844]

Was #99 to 👍👍👍👍 Love your content and channel! Keep up your amazing work 👍

[@Counterpoints]

07 thank you kindly

[@Benzo18769]

Yes finally

[@Welsh_Works]

Heya, just to let you know. The Discord link is invalid. I wanted to join, but am unable to. It maybe an idea to make a permanent link to the Discord

[@Counterpoints]

We’ll fix it

[@Welsh_Works]

@Counterpoints Good good. Just wanting to make sure you knew about it. May I be informed of when this is sorted? I do wish to join the server

[@Counterpoints]

@@Welsh_Works try this one discord.gg/hSw6GzgS

[@Welsh_Works]

@Counterpoints It has worked. It maybe a good idea to set the invites expirey time to Never

[@Welsh_Works]

@@Counterpoints Understood. It will be for the best in the future

[@V.B.Squire]

How many videos were NOT taken down by GW?

[@venom_lowrider]

Nurgles forces would probably do well against the tyranids. If they could infect the host mind somehow they'd be able to destroy all the tyrants. 🤔

[@Zermall]

Not so fast

[@eotwkdp]

Wouldn’t these have dire consequences on a timeline

[@Briselance]

07:14 Immortality? But not invincibility. And to spend your immortal life as a freaking stinker while smelling everything? Hell no.😅

[@Francesco-gf1sv]

18:12 it should... It should... But it didnt.

[@ryantellez2871]

I was eating

[@Randomusername56782]

Nurgle vs mr clean.

[@user-pn9ji8nj1g]

Reference to godblite

[@makeromaniagreatagain9697]

Can't really say I'm a fan of time travel in mvoies and games because somethint always happens that cintradicts something else or has plot holes.

[@AG-en5y]

❤❤❤

[@ozen4909]

Is this a reupload? Or am I having a deja Vu moment.

[@Counterpoints]

Games Workshop took down the old one.

[@reiarjaeylaxa5857]

Excuse me, why was Artefacts deleted?

[@Counterpoints]

Games Workshop took it down for copyright. It’s appealed right now. Should be back up in the next two weeks

[@reiarjaeylaxa5857]

@@Counterpoints Man, they copyrights are just so... overly strict

[@Counterpoints]

@@reiarjaeylaxa5857 I put in my reply I think they should be focusing on new content instead of harassing me for these clearly legal breakdowns.

[@isaiahannexstein5378]

Cadia stands has gotta be my favorite

[@SLIMJIMNIM]

The discord doesnt work lol

[@Counterpoints]

discord.gg/ncdqqsnf

[@SLIMJIMNIM]

@@Counterpoints Thank you!

[@slowe177]

Comment for the comment gods

[@austinross8444]

Reddit banned the sub for being unmoderated??

[@justyagre6296]

Seriously, where are the Grey Knights?

[@djcuevas1057]

They can’t be everywhere there’s not many of them and a LOT more chaos.

[@bendavis7169]

Gray knights pls help 😢

[@Realitycheckm8]

This episode makes me nauseous. Send in the Grey Knights!

[@karldehaut]

Comment for the algorithm

[@cydalegoldston8666]

I like the original version tbh

[@Counterpoints]

Well GW took it down so…thanks for sharing

[@cydalegoldston8666]

@Counterpoints yeah.. that sucks.. but anytime man.

[@jonathanlindtner2616]

I like these breakdowns, but once again the way stories claim that time can be messed with, does not make intuitive sense to me…

[@Counterpoints]

Just chalk it up to warp fuckery

[@Knightstruth]

Sucks all those Tempestus Scions died without taking anything with them. They carry hotshot lasguns, krak grenade launchers and such. They have the capability to fight Space Marines. Could have at least shown them killing some poxwalkers or something. I hated how cheesy overpowered the chaos magic was as well. Destroying a whole Naval squadron simply because in the future he infects the astropaths. That's a paradox ya jerk!

[@OBIONEBARRONI]

*A reupload.*

[@Counterpoints]

No it’s not. Watch the intro complainy pants