Plane STRUCK BY GUNFIRE | Bullets Hit Southwest at Dallas-Love Field

[@VASAviation]

N8744B is still grounded at KDAL at the moment this video is published. More information to be posted here as it releases.

[@RetiredEE]

Bet they wind up putting Shotspotters (shots fired detectors) at all urban airports. Cheap insurance when risk is considered plus helps police locate where it's coming from.

[@AdamGoldwater]

looks like fr24 shows this tail moving again yesterday

[@joshuaobelenusable]

@@RetiredEE Curious how coordination would work with wildlife dispersal teams. They might need to call in and tell them to ignore when they shoo the birds away or have ShotSpotter set to ignore certain sound signatures. Not sure if it can differentiate between a live load and a blank based on what caliber the wildlife team uses.

[@demonsun]

@@RetiredEE They don't really work, and have all sorts of false positives. They react to so many loud noises, that even a car hitting a pothole triggered them.

[@fontcaicoya5686]

I'm seeing a concerning number of comments that claim the pilots knew from the get-go what happened, and asking why they weren't more proactive about the situation. It's more likely the pilots did not know exactly what happened when it happened - it's likely they received some sort of indication regarding pressurization, electrical, hydraulic, etc. They're about to take-off, those pilots aren't focused at all on what's happening on the ground behind their runway. And this animation doesn't put things to scale - hell, some ammunition or firearm configurations won't even show a muzzle flash, or sound loud enough to penetrate the roar of a passenger plane's engines.

[@rilmar2137]

That's my guess - they received an indication about an issue with some system or piece of equipment. And even if they had heard a bang, I think their mind would have gone to some more common cause - a technical fault of whatever sort, somebody shooting a firearm at a civilian airplane wouldn't be even in their top 10 guesses

[@joshr96]

Exactly. They had no idea what happened. It could have been fired some distance (who knows maybe even completely accidental and a stray bullet). There is so much sound inside the cockpit especially in some of these 737 with all the instruments buzzing and the engines. It was likely ground maintenance that spotted the bullet hole upon inspection which would match up with the about 15 min delay.

[@ShaggyRogers1]

@@rilmar2137 I'm not a pilot, but if I heard a sudden bang like that over the jet engines, my mind would be going to every single pressurized line and engine part that could have blown or what bolt possibly just sheered off and got sucked into somewhere it most definitely isn't supposed to be. Unless the air strip was in like Haiti or Donbass, I wouldn't even think that someone could have possibly just shot a gun at the plane.

[@jonathanbott87]

​@@joshr96or, depending on where it was, crew or pax saw it once they got up - but agree about the delayed realization

[@joshr96]

@@jonathanbott87 It was reported to have entered the right side right bellow the cockpit area. So no chance any passenger seeing it or even the pilots unless they stuck their head out the window. 😆

[@A.J.1656]

There's no way you'd hear a gunshot coming from off the airport property. Between the sound insulation of the jet, the noise the jet is making and the fact that almost every single pilot is wearing a noise canceling headset, it's just silly to assume they had any idea what had happened until after an inspection was performed.

[@182QKFTW]

If the projectile was traveling >1100 feet per second it will produce a (small)sonic boom / crack sound from being supersonic. Most rifles and many handguns do this. Plus the impact could make a lot of noise

[@karoleenascottage]

I wondered how they would hear this too and how they would isolate it from other sounds or impacts from debris, etc. I guess we’ll wait and see…..

[@SJF15]

How did they know they needed an inspection then?

[@vne5195]

If it was almost any centerfire rifle round, it's going to make plenty of noise, and if it pokes a hole in the plane, that might make might people suspect gunfire. It's nice that nobody was injured.

[@IO470N]

Perhaps not but you sure as shit going to hear the bullet hitting your plane.

[@brettstowell4029]

There is an old medical proverb that goes: “When you hear hoof beats in the hallway, think horses, not zebras.” Dogging the SWA pilots for not immediately diagnosing the issues with their aircraft being the result of gunfire as opposed to the dozens of other more probable causes is utter nonsense.

[@FNLNFNLN]

I mean, it's Texas, random gunfire is a horse in the third world.

[@stevevenn1]

Also fits Occam’s razor which loosely paraphrases as the principle: "The simplest explanation is usually the best one.”

[@AFarris01]

​@@stevevenn1 The answer which makes the least amount of assumptions is usually the correct one

[@t.c.2776]

Like give me examples of Dozens of other probably causes that would have a metallic penetrating thud sound "near" the cockpit? maybe a woodpecker with a metal implant?... and how "close" was it... how near a window was it? if they could hear it hit, it must have been close... Were either pilots combat veterans?

[@rogerroger9884]

It's actually "When you hear hoofbeats behind you, don't expect to see a zebra.” Pretty sure nobody expects a horse nor zebra to be in the hallway. js.😁

[@sirrudy1233]

People making it harder for plane spotters…

[@pluto8404]

Everything will be illegal. No clandestine chemistry, no plane spotting. Just stay in your apartment, order food, wear your mask, and never leave.

[@theaviazone1668]

It's sad that bad people will ruin these things for good people with a burning passion for aviation. Before 9/11 you could just ask to go into the cockpit and they'd let you in for a chat. Hate to see people trying to ruin close up plane spotting.

[@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co]

@@pluto8404You're equating mask wearing with fear, when the real cowards are the anti-maskers *and you know it.*

[@marklindsey1995]

@@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co How did you reach that conclusion?

[@loganaurora]

What kind of backwards copum is this😂​@@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co

[@VenkmanPrime]

I work ramp, that’d be a hell of a walk around find

[@chriswilson7138]

I live about a mile NW of Bachman Lake and Love Field and it is not uncommon to hear dozens of shots South of my location go off each weekend. That neighborhood is high density old apartment complexes in a bad neighborhood. Last year i recovered a .38 slug that had embedded into one of my solar panels on my roof. We are so used to it that we dont bother calling the police because they dont do anything. Our neighborhood is safe but half a mile South of us is definitely not. To be clear, i doubt someone was shooting at the plane but instead this is just a random bullet that made it’s way to the airport similar to how a falling bullet from this same area pierced my solar panel from above last year.

[@YouMatter-UDo]

The most dangerous to us are those too few are looking at. White male nut cases in power and trying to grab more. A country that elects a known insane criminal to high office is just not decent from the top down.

[@VASAviation]

Thank you for the information.

[@backandforthupanddow]

I think you are 100% correct. Good information.

[@ajg617]

Still would be interesting to find out why they returned to the gate for an inspection even if coincidental.

[@chriswilson7138]

@@ajg617 probably cabin failing to pre-pressurize or they heard the “thunk” of the bullet hitting the flight deck.

[@kevinclark5053]

Considering what the area surrounding Love Field looks like, I’m surprised this isn’t a regular occurrence.

[@tryste_mx]

not sure who you think owns most of the guns or commits nearly all mass shootings in the US

[@apple54345]

@@tryste_mx your link to who tipped you off to this as a mass shooting, please? Waiting diligently.

[@tryste_mx]

@@apple54345 My comment to the OP isn't referencing this incident.

[@legendofman12]

@@tryste_mx⚫️ppl

[@Nicholas-f5]

​@@tryste_mxgang members

[@Renard380]

I remember watching a video about a smaller plane getting hit by a bullet a few years ago. Because it was a pressurised cabin, it took a while and a lot of money for the manufacturer to come up with a custom part to plug the hole and a special procedure to install it...

[@reynirheidbergstefansson2343]

I think it was @steveo1kinevo - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gn26pKinmcuJh9E

[@ZeCockOfTheWalk]

was that steveoknievo's TBM? i remember that video.

[@tychothefriendlymonolith]

I remember that one. I think it was a case of “what goes up, must come down” since it was in the top of the fuselage.

[@clqudy4750]

That was Steveo1Kinevo and the TBM850 parked at Pompano Bch airport, Fl. Yeah, it was an expensive repair!

[@billb7876]

That is called Battle damage repair, we used to do it in the military. I could have knocked together a quick patch for a few Bob

[@rockym2931]

Bachman Lake is a rough area. It was probably a stray, not directed at them. A fellow I worked with had to dis- courage somebody from attacking him there.

[@beenaplumber8379]

It'll be interesting to see what caliber the round is. Was it from a handgun or a deer rifle?

[@robertmorris8997]

@@beenaplumber8379 someone said .38

[@beenaplumber8379]

@@robertmorris8997 Thanks. I'd love to know the source though. That kind of information could possibly be generated by people who want to make the "rough" neighborhood seem responsible rather than the deer hunters in that area, or worse, any nutjob with a long rifle who's afraid someone's gonna take it away. Of course if it's a .38, that simplifies it in my mind. That's not from any deer rifle. I think it's also important to learn the entry angle - how steep it was in descent, if it actually was in descent. (Almost had to be.) I posted elsewhere that I used to be a security guard at an oil refinery, and people would be hunting deer at all hours of the night - shooting them in an area surrounded by huge tanks full of gasoline and jet fuel. Shooting deer at 8:30(?) local time is nothing compared to what I saw.

[@Nicholas-f5]

​@beenaplumber8379 urban deer hunting?

[@beenaplumber8379]

@@Nicholas-f5 Oh yeah, it happens very close to the KMSP airport too, and they do it legally. (There's a nature preserve off the approach end of 30R, and sometimes they issue a limited number of deer licenses to cull the deer population there.) My experience, like I said, was working security at an oil refinery further down the same river, and the hunters were out all night. Others have posted that the other side of that lake right off the runway at KDAL is a popular place for illegal hunting. That's why hunting is an issue here. It happens just off the airport. It could be a stray from the hunters or from the hoods.

[@Plane_Person]

Eventually plane spotters won't even be allowed near the fence

[@joeythelemur2]

Wow, saw gunfire in the video headline and thought this was about Spirit and Haiti, but no, just Dallas! Wow, crazy stuff.

[@xplayman]

I imagine the pilot saying something like, “He hates these cans!” That’s why it took too long to communicate the gunfire up the chain.

[@itolkov]

Tower: "I misspoke, C short of F." SWA: "Sorry, C short of F, copy that." 😂

[@jonathankleinow2073]

I'm sorry, too, Tower... I'm very sorry... *All right*, you're sorrier than I am, but I am as sorry as well... I am as sorry as you are, Tower! Don't say that you're more sorry than I am, because I'm capable of being just as sorry as you are... So we're both sorry, all right?... All right.

[@thedevilinthecircuit1414]

"Sorry, Charlie. It's Star Kist Tuna."

[@Nicholas-f5]

Canadian, eh?

[@Ndub1036]

Typical day in Dallas tbh

[@DrPede]

Not intending to overreact, but just feels like civil society is continuing its slow decay and this is another symptom.

[@JSFGuy]

Right, this is going to be expensive.

[@jakethadley]

Thats mad, I sincerely hope it wasn't deliberate. I always wondered how bad it might be if someone unloaded on a civilian aircraft during it's takeoff roll, something you could potentially do from outside the security boundary.

[@gtaxmods]

It's the middle of the city, you can't go hunting there.

[@jonathanbott87]

From a plane standpoint, the given is a loss of pressure, but they're low enough it wouldn't be explosive or require oxygen. They could circle and land. If the bullets hit critical components, it becomes riskier to takeoff but there are significant redundancies, so the plane may still be able to takeoff, circle, and land, if it's not safe to reject. Takeoff with one engine is already trained for. (Depends on what and how much is hit, but they're /mostly/ small or hidden components.)

[@ehmha3641]

How could this not have been deliberate?

[@deckerbarborka6405]

​@@ehmha3641Bullets dont stop moving if you miss, and according to another comment from someone who claims to live nearby there's a close by neighborhood that's really bad and they hear a lot of gunshots often. Most of those shots aren't going to hit their intended target and thus hit something else. If this were deliberately targeted at the plane there almost certainly would have been multiple shots

[@TitaniumTurbine]

@@deckerbarborka6405 I agree with you, this is very likely a case of a stray round finding their way to the fuselage.

[@Johnny-o1r9y]

Notice to Air missions. Use caution for firearms in the vicinity of 13R. Advise you have WTF.

[@kaamsogrimm]

first Spirit n jetBlue,now Southwest

[@Nomar2007_NWDE_WRESTLING]

who's next, *Frontier*

[@Plane_Person]

Getting all the cheap airlines first

[@vigi86]

The irony in "Love"

[@dh05z28]

Wonder if they did a desk pop…….?

[@Mike_delta80]

I belive that was US Airways landing at CLT that had the desk pop

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

@@Mike_delta80 What is a desk pop?

[@athlonen]

heh.. sounds like the controller at Tower didn't keep up on his NOTAMs (read: old habit). As of this current AIRAC cycle, the TRACON is known as Lone Star, not Regional.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Yes! ATC→TRACON→ARTCC

[@tld8102]

Such an authentic american welcome

[@getmeouttatennessee4473]

This. Just shared the clip with my UK friend...no caption beyond "Murrica."

[@carroll-w7wxv]

I would like blancolirio do a video on this one!

[@JKwakulla]

I'll second that

[@thilomanten8701]

A different kind of "noise-abatement-procedure"....

[@Zerbey]

So per news reports the bullet hit the right side of the plane just below the flight deck, so I wonder if the pilots saw the impact. No idea if a plane window can withstand a bullet impact, I'm glad we didn't have to find out.

[@Tekker2234]

Cockpit windows are generally multilayered, with at least one of the layers being bulletproof glass. This is meant to give it resistance against bird strikes but would probably work just as well for at least low caliber rounds. That being said, the cabin windows are likely a different story. They don't generally have to deal with the prospect of oncoming birds at several hundred miles an hour, and are less critical to keeping the plane flyable, so are likely less reinforced.

[@Zerbey]

@@Tekker2234 That's comforting to know.

[@vne5195]

What does "Below the flight deck" mean? Lower than the cockpit/cabin floor?

[@Zerbey]

@@vne5195 Could mean any of those things, yes.

[@IN10THRC]

I'm genuinely curious to know how the flight crew would know that they'd been hit by one or more bullets. I would imagine that in their seats, they couldn't see ot hear much of anything.

[@MrGeneralScar]

I am not sure what pilot would assume they got hit by a firearm, that said it is Texas and I have heard they like to shoot at things there, although a commercial aircraft probably isnt one of them typically. One thing that would have immediately been apparent to the pilots if a projectile did hit the front of the aircraft near the nose or cockpit is if it hit the area where the forward looking doplar radar is in the nose cone, if that was damaged the pilots would know about it immediately as at least 1 screen in the cockpit would likely be tuned to the weather radar for take off. I would have to imagine that there wouldnt be many commercial pilots these days that would take thier plane into the sky if the weather radar suddenly stopped working whether they heard a sound or not. Safety first. Still crazy stuff.

[@MarkH10]

There is no evidence that the pilots knew about 'gunshots'. They asked for 'inspection'. They probably had been aboard, and pushed from the gate for 6-9 minutes when, just when they reach the runway, an alert or alarm sounded. The maintenance inspection then found the cause. A hole.

[@KarrennCoffey]

Why call a plane in on the other runway if gunfire on the airport is a suspicion ???

[@zethes66]

Gunfire on the airport was not a suspicion until 15m later when the aircraft arrived at Gate 1.

[@YouTuberenderingnotswearingAsa]

Sw inhales first then now shoots for the first time

[@ronaldckrausejr7762]

Depending upon where the plane was hit; the most likely areas from which the activity took place. 1. From the water? Does the level of the water and a boat on top of it allow such a shot? The boat would also have to leave the area quickly. There is a rowing dock nearby, the water quickly gets to shallow at the other direction. 2. Depending on how busy the area was; the shot most likely occured from George Coker Circle. The noise of planes could drown out most gun activity. 3. From the road at the end of the runway. This is the least likely location due to risk of being caught.

[@bar20bbq70]

it came from a drunk mexican

[@mmeyers111]

Ya’all know it’s Texas!

[@deskpilot1856]

The FAA banned flights to Haiti because an airplane was shot at. When are they banning flights to Dallas?

[@Largecow_Moobeast]

Right, those locations are just so comparable in terms of importance and volume of travelers.

[@deskpilot1856]

@Largecow_Moobeast What does volume of travelers and importance have to do with it? It's about safety. If airplanes can't operate in and out of Love without getting shot at, maybe they should close the airport.

[@hero6677]

Theyre two different situations. Haiti is facing political turmoil and has armed gangs that specifically made demands to try and cut travel. The Dallas situation is under investigation but it could have been a stray bullet from across the river, it could've been one person, it could've been misfire, we don't know. Hundreds of planes leave and come into Dallas safely since the incident. Haiti's airport has been taken over by the milita and continued a targeted campaign against the people there. Not. Comparable.

[@ehmha3641]

​@@hero6677what you said about haiti goes for the us aswell but nevermind

[@Largecow_Moobeast]

@@deskpilot1856 what a perfect conclusion to arrive at, I can tell you live in the area and know the situation well.

[@alexmaclean1]

Hopefully it was extreme negligence and not intentional.

[@warden330]

I gat that the official line has to be that it was probably accidental to reassure paasengers, but what grounds are there for thinking that it might have been a genuine accident? Admittedly I am not American, but what would anyone be legitimately be firing at that time and location to put a hole in the fuselage of an aircraft?

[@andyasdf2078]

In terms of it being 'accidental', there is a possibility of two cars on the freeway there near the threshold exchanging some gunfire and it was a stray which hit the aircraft. But at the same time, there are a lot of nutters in the USA so anything is possible.

[@rilmar2137]

Also not American but I know many Americans, including some gun owners. Given that those are mostly composite... A long gun with rifled barrel (aka a rifle) could, depending on the rounds used, do it. A rifle is nothing extraordinary, the first rifle units were created during the Napoleonic Wars

[@cj20080]

There's no legitimate reason to be firing a gun in that location. There are no open-air firing ranges nearby, it's in the middle of the city.

[@ShaggyRogers1]

Depending on levels of negligence, surprisingly a lot. There are plenty of rifles that are more than capable of having effective ranges that are more than a mile. If someone were to take a precision long range rifle and have a negligent discharge with a high enough elevation, it is completely possible for that negligently discharged round to strike a person or vehicle upwards of more than a mile in any given direction. There are also just plain idiots that have negligent("accidental") discharges in exactly the wrong place all the time. Some wannabe thug waiting in the cell phone lot could have been playing around with their rifle and negligently send a round out their window directly at the runway. Is it likely? No, but it isn't like there aren't countless incidences of poorly trained officers having negligent discharges inside police stations, schools, and court houses.

[@ShaggyRogers1]

@@andyasdf2078 I mean, there is a possible world where someone with a high precision rifle like they Cheytac m200 intervention, that is more than capable of mile long shots, having a negligent discharge in the exact wrong direction while trying to shoot at a spot that is a mile away. Is it likely in any stretch of the imagination? Hell no, it was probably some wannabe thug/red neck on a drunk dare, but it is theoretically possible. We would have to see what the physical evidence shows to come up with any actual working theories. If it was a 9mm round that hit the airplane? It was someone that was standing on the runway that was shooting. A rifle round? They could be anywhere within a few hundred yards of the runway.

[@Boodieman72]

Shooting at the aircraft or stray bullets from some random event on the other side of the lake?

[@TheMiningCabinet]

Probably thugs throwing bullets at each other...they never hit anything except bystanders....or now, jets.

[@MarkH10]

rando

[@gtoger]

I think the US airlines just stopped flying into Haiti because of something like this. But everything's fine in Dallas. Keep flying here. Thank you.

[@joshmosh1313]

When you going to post more videos? Come back!

[@heraldosanchez-yv1fp]

what else would you expect from texas

[@Anurania]

I just learned that Boeing fuselages are frequently hit by gunfire when traveling on trains to the factory and have to be repaired on arrival.

[@hewhohasnoidentity4377]

I totally believe this. I've seen the trains and am familiar with the route. They go through very remote areas. As someone who used to target practice with random stuff in the desert, I can see a train like that being a temptation. Seeing those trains routinely would probably eventually become targets. I guess what I'm saying is that if I lived near the route and had the ability, I would probably do that.

[@shaggybreeks]

You just "learned" this, or did you just "hear" it.? Possible indeed, but something like that would be reported to authorities and recorded by the company. There would be more information than, "Yeh, I heard that too...!".

[@tryste_mx]

praxis

[@hewhohasnoidentity4377]

@@shaggybreeks with 1500 miles of rural track you are not going to stop it. It is really a non issue though. Boeing has to do quality control inspections and at that stage a bullet hole is a very minor repair. The railroad has police jurisdiction on their tracks. Putting officers or surveillance every 1/4 mile of track to prevent a bullet hole would be stupid expensive, and be charged to Boeing. If it was a big deal they would protect the cargo before trying to police the back country.

[@robertmorris8997]

@@tryste_mx I saw that movie! It blew up.

[@othername1000]

When and how was the damage discovered?

[@andij605]

We don't know. I assume they might have noticed some issues with pressurization or whatever, and so they went back to the gate and did a walk-around, then saw the hole

[@GetOutsideYourself]

Did we get anything out of Haiti or Dominica on the incidents there?

[@esathegreat]

Does the perp have to pay for the hole in the plane? Could get expensive

[@floph7937]

Half-reading the title, thinking "Man, the civil war situation in Haiti is really getting out of hand." Fully reading it: "Oh, that's just … Texas, I guess.

[@ChitwoodMitwood]

Looks like Texas trash to me.

[@qwerty112311]

With trump elected they have stopped eating dogs and cats, but they still want to feel kinship with their home nation.

[@A.J.1656]

Well, Dallas. It's a s-hole city. lol

[@ChitwoodMitwood]

@@A.J.1656 and Maga all the way, they are showing how its done. GOP in control there for many many years!

[@GeneralSeptem]

The part of Dallas around love field is total ghetto

[@Pontiacman1964]

And so we are now no better than Haiti.

[@MydieLy]

Is that somehow news to you?^^

[@EuanMcDonald880]

Could those shots have been initially confused for employees on the ground trying to scare away birds?

[@malcolm20091000]

Pilots said the plane was shot at about 8:30PM. News said police responded to a shooting call at 9:48PM. Wow, there's some fast acting folks. It appears that shooting guns at airplanes arent all that much concern in Texas.

[@focusfrenzy9759]

not to the pilots of the plane, watch the video, they never said they had been shot at, it was ground personnel checking why they returned who notified control and they called the police.

[@exploreraa983]

@@focusfrenzy9759 sounds pretty negligent for that flight crew to know they were being shot at, but to not warn the other people or planes nearby. glad nobody was seriously hurt.

[@rilmar2137]

@@exploreraa983 apparently the pilots did not know, given that it wasn't the cockpit that was hit. An aircraft being fired upon (outside of any conflict zones) is such a fringe occurrence, that it's really not that surprising they if had thought it was whatever else

[@robertbutsch1802]

No need to troll Texas. You heard the crew fail to report the gunfire when they told tower they needed to return to the gate.

[@herkloader34]

​@@robertbutsch1802they weren't sure if it was gunfire at the moment and the last thing they wanted to do is cause panic. They immediately returned to the gate and calmly deplaned.

[@Bill_Woo]

I don't see anyone mentioning the Haiti thing a week ago. That was multiple shots - a clear organized uh-tack. At least 1 known casualty.

[@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-]

Every other comment on here is mentioning Haiti.

[@Bill_Woo]

Thanks. But I now see a total of 1 after scrolling 45 and counting. I guess what the ee-fray eech-spay platform gives me is not what they give others in the comments. When I commented it was zero of the first 100 I read.

[@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-]

@@Bill_Woo You're right. I did a comment search and only found 18 out of 447 comments containing the word "Haiti." My perception was skewed. Sorry about that.

[@theaviazone1668]

Somebody decided to turn love field into hate field today. bad people endangering lives of flyers for no apparent reason. And as someone pointed out. If this is what people do close up to planes it's just a matter of time before you can't go close up plane spotting anymore 😔.

[@danlowe8684]

And the puzzling thing is that its destination wasn't even Kennedy Airport. Too soon??

[@YouMatter-UDo]

Not according to the nut cake Kennedy some are willing to let have control of our regulations on sensitive products.

[@gungagalunga9040]

The shooter was on a grassy knoll

[@wickras]

Something you would expect to happen on some gravel strip in Afghanistan. Or Murica, of course…

[@CertifiedIndustryProfessional]

I’m picturing Daffy Duck & Bugs Bunny having the “duck season! wabbit season!” argument, but it’s two hicks saying “Boeing season! Airbus season! Boeing season! Airbus season!”

[@josiahrandolphbaldwin8272]

Have you been? It’s not Hicks shooting guns into the air at lovefield… lol

[@AySz88]

They need to program the AIs to at least look at the transcript first....

[@essiebessie661]

Those people bought guns because they intended to use them, not to hang them on the wall.

[@Orxenhorf]

What are the odds on them not having told the passengers why they had to return and (hopefully) switch to another plane?

[@legohead6]

Passengers were likely told there was a technical issue with the aircraft, which at the time was probably also what the pilots believed. It wasn't until after the inspection at the gate that they realized what had happened.

[@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-]

According to a family on the flight, "The pilot came on just before takeoff and said that he had heard a rattling outside of the plane and that they were electing to turn back to the gate so that the mechanical team could check out the plane before we took off" (fox4news, "Southwest Airlines plane shot: Family on board describes experience"). How could the pilot know they were hit by gunfire? I think it would have been too extreme to claim they were shot just because they heard a strange noise, even if it were a loud clank.

[@MarkH10]

100%. Those are the odds. The return to inspection revealed the cause. Your question then is, what are the odds of them not having told passengers information that no one at all had? > Answer is always 100%

[@SerebroWD]

@@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- And to be fair, that's the right way to handle it in my book. If I were a pilot and in charge of that plane and the passengers' safety, and I heard a rattling that didn't match up with anything on the tech log, I'd damn sure rather return to gate and have the mechanics check out what caused it instead of taking off and potentially having a problem in the air and having to make an emergency landing.

[@daviddelaney363]

Law enforcement can obtain a geofence warrant and identify all cell phone activity in proximity to where the shot(s) were made.

[@NekoConnect]

Guess you can say they were shooting at birds 😅 (I'll see myself out)

[@neb_setabed]

Shooting the breeze... and missed?

[@robertmorris8997]

@@neb_setabed Slang for airplanes is birds.

[@neb_setabed]

@@robertmorris8997 shooting the breeze is also a common expression

[@sushka]

Blows my mind that Southwest wouldn’t tell ATC the reason for the block turn back right after it happened. Who knows, it could have happened to the next plane

[@ghostrunner2138]

can we please not make this a thing

[@apple54345]

it's all subjective to views. this channel has always been "first for views"

[@life_with_bernie]

So, was it or wasn't it? They aren't even saying why they thought it was shot at.

[@life_with_bernie]

@@vne5195 Huh?

[@karoleenascottage]

A line from Hunt For Red October comes to mind. “I think someone just fired a torpedo at us.”

[@somejackball]

Some things in here don't react well to bullets!

[@karoleenascottage]

@ 😂

[@Rowan66109]

Average situation in the US

[@beaudure01]

Thank goodness we can all have guns to defend ourselves against ... passenger aircraft taking off from a busy airport.

[@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-]

No, that's illegal.

[@inshallamiami]

@@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-that was a joke brainiac

[@koneeche]

"ah, yes. the aircraft has clearly been struck by gunfire, as we reside in this gun loving state in the freedom of the U-S-A!" - pilot. probably.

[@SeaHusker54]

As a Dallas-Fort Worth resident I’m surprised this hasn’t happened sooner. Love Fields terminal has had several incidents in the with firearms in the last couple years. I’ve only flown out of love field once and that was enough for me. DFW international is a way better experience and it’s not located next to some of the most violent streets in all of Dallas like Love Field is.

[@CraftAero]

Gun fire directed at commercial aircraft... Interpol: Ground all flights immediately. USA: Local advisory, uhh gun shots reported, uuuhhh, proceed with caution...

[@areareare9953]

My first statement would have been - TOWER, SOMEONE IS SHOOTING AT PLANES!!!

[@exploreraa983]

at least tell the other planes to watch out!

[@jonathanbott87]

They likely had no clue what happened and not likely a scenario covered in training I would guess they lost pressure and maybe someone heard something, but they wouldn't hear the bang from the gun itself

[@A.J.1656]

@@jonathanbott87 Lost pressure on the ground? Lol

[@justing42]

@@jonathanbott87the plane isn’t pressurized on the ground

[@neilkurzman4907]

You’re assuming they know they got shot. When you’re in a plane, getting ready to takeoff how well can you hear what’s going on outside?

[@mfs10131]

Happened around the same time as the Tyson fight was going on in the same region as the airport

[@davidroman1654]

Same region??????? Only if your region is some thing within around 40 miles. Dallas Love Field is a long way from AT&T Stadium.

[@harbosonius]

AT&T stadium is more than 20 miles from Love Field. Do better

[@sierrabravo7156]

Did the gunfire come from a grassy knoll?

[@ronwade5646]

Happens All the time

[@matthewperez2736]

With the area DAL is in. Honestly doesn’t surprise me this happens more often.

[@coloradoken3159]

And the Trumpidy Dumpidy era begins.

[@dtsh4451]

Aviate, navigate, ventilate, communicate😂

[@susanbrown822]

To quote an old Sandra Bullock movie, Miss Congeniality, Candace Bergen's character says "This is Texas, everybody has a gun, even my florist has a gun"!! Some things have not changed in Texas...

[@paulking8318]

What a sniper rifle

[@doxielain2231]

'Murica!

[@tomsmith5584]

Haiti: We are the most dangerous place in the world! United States: Hold my ammo box.

[@lostship88]

Hold my Haitians*

[@brankojedi]

I am not sure how they established that they have been shot at (I haven't seen any photo of the hole nor been able to find any more details), but wouldn't you want to warn everyone about what just happened? If it was intentional, they could have shot at the next plane as well and maybe hit someone or something important? Why would you not say immediately what the issue is and keep quiet for 15 minutes? Maybe pan-pan? No pun intended.

[@billstevens3796]

@brankojedi Because they didn't know what happened. Duh. Use your frickin brain.

[@AkilanNarayanaswamy]

It's really hard to say without more info. It's possible they just saw some faults and figured something just broke. Depending on the type of firearm, they may not have even heard it over the engine sound or maybe just heard a pop. The Southwest flight behind them might have gotten some message from company about it. There's a lot of possibilities here

[@samthelittleman1]

Use your brain buddy.

[@MarkH10]

You are conflating YOUR information to assume that is information the pilots had. They had an alert in the cockpit. They wanted "Inspection" regarding the alert. The inspection found the issue. The YT title included all known relevant information.

[@walover165]

The Australian, shocked: gunfire! How can it be gunfire! Reads "Dallas-Love field": oh, of course. Fucking Texas.

[@jerseyshoredroneservices225]

Interesting that they're not sure when exactly it happened. I wonder what they noticed that made them think they had taken gunfire 🤷‍♂️

[@samstewart4807]

Breaking news!!! Dallas police arrest L. Harvey Oswald for shooting at this airplane

[@JG-mf1yk]

And he was killed before he was interrogated ?

[@moyadapne968]

@@JG-mf1yk He was interrogated, but Fritz kept no record of it. Can't have the truth coming out.

[@flashgordon10001]

Where is his wingman? Talk to me Goose. Never leave your wingman!

[@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co]

You could excuse this as an extremely stupid and careless hunter if it had happened during the day. At 8:30 PM?

[@Freedom-iv8bk]

Coyote?

[@emesny]

Even in Dallas there is no hunting in the middle of the city.

[@ptrinch]

Only thing you'd be hunting in Bachman lake, despite it not being allowed, is geese or ducks. Hitting an airplane from 100 yds with birdshot would, at worse, chip some paint. This had to have been intentional.

[@kdaltex]

Guarantee the OPS office has a jar of bullets they picked up off runways/taxiways on their desk. Typically pistol rounds with the very occasional rifle round that comes from the elmfork outdoor shooting range several miles Southwest of the Airport.

[@CharlesHuse]

Elm fork is 4 miles away to the northwest with the lanes facing due north. Not very likely.

[@danh6720]

Love field. Looks like that range is NW of the field and the shooting lanes face directly north as well. Maybe they find strays from the bad neighborhood nearby, that seems more likely.

[@kdaltex]

@@CharlesHuse found a rifle round sitting feet away from Signature Aviation's rampside entrance door years ago. Flattened along the front and side as if from a somewhat flat parabolic trajectory. Nose was pointing towards the building and from the direction of the range.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

In the run-up to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russian authorities closed large parts of the Black Sea, the Kerch Strait, and almost the entire Sea of Azov "for missile and artillery live fire exercises." A spokesman for the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry protested the Russian NOTAMs over this unprecedentedly large exercise area, which essentially obstructed international shipping and had economic consequences for Ukrainian ports such as Mariupol.[13]

[@MarkH10]

and was part of the intel they ignored.

[@skyvenrazgriz8226]

you would asume, getting shot is somewhete up there at the prio list on comunication...

[@Tbit22]

I’ve been waiting for this video for about a week so glad you covered it thank you

[@dahankitty]

Waiting for a week? It just happened two days ago...

[@baksatibi]

This happened two days ago. Are you thinking of the events in Haiti that involved Spirit, JetBlue and AA aircraft?

[@margaretmathis4775]

It just happened 2 days ago.

[@Tbit22]

@@baksatibi I think so sorry

[@VASAviation]

You've been waiting since before it happened.

[@sb859]

Dang, and I thought Oakland was bad.

[@maxmks5957]

It's such a good thing everyone in America can have a gun. (NOT!) For someone from Europa that's still unbelievable.

[@cabc74]

Oer the land of the free...!

[@nancychace8619]

Thanks for a good report. Smh. Glad everyone's ok. Maybe pilot was shaken up - should have reported suspicions earlier. Stay safe, everyone -

[@exploreraa983]

that pilots should lose their license for not reporting possible danger to other departing planes.... many other planes passed that same area before they decided to do anything about it.... WTF

[@billstevens3796]

@exploreraa983 WTF indeed. Why can't you get it through your head that obviously the pilots did not know what happened.

[@exploreraa983]

@@billstevens3796 Fair enough, I inferred the pilots were more aware of what transpired.

[@eaglezxz3354]

Was it laying chemtrails????this the start of people dun with 25 yrs of that sht

[@Nicholas-f5]

Glad to hear this Trump thing is working out

[@RobertCraft-re5sf]

Your thumbnail is inaccurate. 🙄

[@VASAviation]

Were you there?

[@SeeSaw99]

I'm a truck driver. I was making a delivery in Charlotte, and I was both fascinated and horrified at how low planes were as they flew over this very "public" facility on approach to one of the runways. That's all I'll say !!!!

[@MarkH10]

Irrelevant. Low flight on approach happens around the world.

[@VictorSilva-qf2tu]

Haitian inspiration 😂

[@iatsd]

That must be more of that Freedom that Americans keep going on about. From the Responsible Gun Owners they insist are the vast, vast majority.

[@getmeouttatennessee4473]

Right?

[@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-]

Everything gets misused. Hands and feet get misused, but we don't ban those. Some would call that inhumane despite the benefits.

[@MarkH10]

If gun owner are not responsible at the level you mention, then lets recall there are more cars and guns than people in the US. We simply MUST keep releasing our prisoners in America!!! So now, that we have both been sarcastic, let me ask. The shooter had a gun legally. The shooter has a criminal record. Which do YOU believe?

[@iatsd]

@@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- Does it *hurt* being that stupid?

[@iatsd]

@@MarkH10 Ah, right. Accidents happen. It's only the Bad Guys (tm) not All The Responsible Gun owners. What's the magic number of gun deaths when you accept that the US needs to have a conversation about the gun culture that has developed over the last 50 years? It's sure AF not the gun culture that existed before then. The current number - the total number, the number of school shootings, the number of mass shootings, the number of suicides, etc., etc - those numbers clearly *aren't* the magic number because the US does nothing about it. It must be higher, right? So please tell me: what *is* the magic number/s that the US has to reach before the conversation can be had?

[@SJF15]

Why didn't the crew report it earlier?

[@VASAviation]

Do you really think pilots knew at that time?

[@SJF15]

They obviously knew something had happened, or else why did they ask for an inspection?

[@MarkH10]

Thye did not know. Thye returned for inspection which found the issue.

[@SJF15]

@@MarkH10but why did they return for the inspection if they didn't know anything had happened? It's not a difficult question!

[@Sylvia_Rider]

ah, Texas

[@GeneralSeptem]

They have criminals we can't lock up in every state.

[@jimwhite9483]

Always remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

[@solowingpixyacz]

We had police in our command center minutes after the report, and the FBI was shortly behind them. Released the aircraft back to SWA later that night surprisingly, after coming to the conclusion that it wasn’t targeted, and more of a “caught in the crossfire” due to gang-related activity.

[@TerryMaki-Choot]

Typical downtown Dallas activities