Planes Fly Fast - Calculating Jet speeds - Debunking Slow Plane / Flat Earth [MWT

Passenger Jets fly really fast, but some Flat Earth people say they don't, that we're being lied to. In this video, I show you how to calculate the speed of an airplane from a video.
Speed is just distance divided by time, and there are two techniques for finding that speed, depending on whether the camera is on the plane or on the ground. Leave comments below if you have any questions or suggested improvements. However, please be civil - I know that discussions like this can end up in a shouting match, and I may remove comment with excessive name-calling and bad language.
This video reference many others. Here are links and references:
===Videos of Planes Landing===
Video #1: • Flight from Chicago to... "Flight from Chicago to San Diego" by Chris Matinet
Video #2: • Southwest Airlines 737... "Southwest Airlines 737 Shadow Bomb" by bkmdan
In-N-Out Picture: Gunnar-Kullenberg (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0) www.flickr.com/photos/gunnark...
Video #3 • Lufthansa Airbus A380 ... "Lufthansa Airbus A380 landing at Los Angeles LAX - Shadow view and ground speed. Camera LG G3 phone" by Ketabedanesh
Video #4 • United Airlines Boeing... Flying by Lake Tahoe (Google Map of Tahoe: www.google.com/maps/@39.31452... )
Video #5: pBOrV4pYDl... 777 landing by bus
Video #6: • Video Enslaved by No Media "What's up with the Airbus A-380 and Yabba Dabba doo works pretty well too" (A380 Landing)
Video #7: • Video Enslaved by No Media "What's up with the Airbus A-380 and Yabba Dabba doo works pretty well too" (A380 At Cruise Altitude)
Video #8: • Video Enslaved by No Media "Convex Earth is a Psyop, 20 Definitive proofs of our local circle of sight is all we have" (A380 Emirates at Cruise Altitude)
===Other Videos and Images===
Rob Skiba's "Potential FE Map" • Digging Flat Earth Tri...
Planet Plane's thumbnail for • Eric Dubay: 200 Proofs... (200 proofs)
Satellites are fake thumbnail from • Video (jeranism) "Satellites Are Fake - Just Another NASA Hoax"
Snake NASA Logo found on www.theflatearthsociety.org/f...
Clip: FrankieBflat - "sun does not set" • Party with no flat ear...
Clip: T Stew "rainbow isn't curved" • Video
Clip: Nicole Cote "Debate is over... earth is flat" • FLAT EARTH | THE DEBAT...
Clip: aplanetruth.info "Google time zones... flat maps": • Video
Clip: Eric Dubay - "earth is level" • How the Southern Stars...
Clip: D. Marble - "Flat Earth PROOF: Spirit Level Flight Experiment" • Flat Earth PROOF: Spir...
Image: thumbnail of p-brane "TIMELAPSE OF THE SUN PROVES FLAT EARTH - HD perspective matrix" • TIMELAPSE OF THE SUN P...
Image: thumbnail of Dorje Daka "Flat Earth Perspective is the Imaginary Curve by Phuket Word" • Video
Animation: Rob Skiba "Night and Day in the Flat Earth model" - • Night and Day in the F...
Clip: Nicole Cote - called an airplane, not an airball • Q: Why don't we feel t... (Extra, not used in video)
Clip: LAHWF - Chatting with a Flat Earther • Chatting with a Flat E... - Mars is Canada (Extra, not used in video)
Flat Horizon images I took myself on my phone.
Clip: A380 Emirates flying: • Emirates Airlines Vide...
Clip: 747 takeoff at LAX: • EPIC Los Angeles LAX P...
Clip: Leaving SFO • United Airlines Boeing...
Image: Quantas Frieght: from freight.qantas.com/freight-pl...
CLip: Great Cirlce: • Earth Geometry lesson ...
Clip: A380 from side: • Airbus A380 Air France... high altitude flyby
SlowPlanes Compilation:
clip 1 • Video Enslaved by No Media
clip 2 • How Slow Can You Go?! ... Jason Maggard
clip 3 • Planes Don't Fly - The... Jason Maggard
clip 4 • Planes Don't Fly - The... Jason Maggard
clip 5 • Video "really slow, guys... going really slow" - "Airbus Passenger Airplanes are using advanced technology, l have some interesting evidence"
clip 6 • Video Enslaved by No Media "To my eyes... 50-60mph"

[@minscandboo9749]

Turns out the answer was *PLANE* and simple all along...

[@gamepocalypsegaming278]

Minsc And Boo just.. take my like and leave

[@SuperPrDude]

The Blissful Zombie......Sir i can explain gravity, give examples, make you feel gravity and i can guaranteed that if you understand it? It will change your flat earth into reallity......Your example of the Sun as movement ? That was the most brainwashing indoctrinating argument ive ever read. 1) You need to understand perspective, physics and science in general. 2) Once you learn those subjects? You'll see that we are the ones rotating.

[@jwickerszh]

"You need to understand perspective, physics and science in general" .. don't hold your breath

[@tojassargaja2085]

The Blissful Zombie. Movement is relative. For example, if you sit in a standing car, and a very fast car pass by. And if you cant see anything else other than the cars, there is no way to decide if your car or the other car moving.(at least you cant decide which car moving RELATIVE to the ground) If somebody would stand on the sun, he would think that he is standing still and the earth is moving. It is because both the sun and the earth is moving relative to each other.

[@randomjasmicisrandom]

The Blissful Zombie that’s a bit of a leap, don’t you think, your claim that we don’t know what movement is. I just had a movement and I feel so much better. It made me think that you were having a similar movement when all those nice words fell out of your mouth.

[@stef7956]

Well, I'm a A320 pilot and I can honestly say that planes don't really fly AT ALL! They stay stationary and the windows are TV screens displaying the world going by. What you see moving around the skies are only holograms. The plains are then moved by teleportation. It's a big conspiracy; this way rich folk can use all that jet fuel in their waterscooters and stuff and don't have to take any responsibility for their carbon footprint. Also, the earth is a cube!

[@GTXgb-gt8lz]

🤯

[@JB-ku7kv]

screens are planned to be in them in the future lol

[@PabloGonzalez-hv3td]

The Earth is a cube and it was shit out by a giant wombat

[@miscuzzi8509]

Do they really drink a Gallon of fuel a second?!? Or really have 100 tons of fuel in each SKINNY wing plus million pounds weight. Or are they just using gas to take of then HOT PRESSURIZED air takes over

[@christ4u2now]

"The plains are then moved by teleportation." You don't understand. You don't need teleportation to get the stationary planes to move. Just move up in the air and wait that the enormous water ball under you has moved around its axis the desired distance. When you have waited long enough, just move down again and you have reached your wanted destination.

[@Travel_Videos]

Sad you need to make this video for adults.

[@flawedobserver4057]

Yeah sad that people are to stupid to know science and how to apply it to our flat world. Sorry your Star Wars is fake

[@lordkvd]

Travel Videos sad that I have to convert the mph into kmph (or into real useful units ;-)) Great videos the guy is perfect. I also loved the SHA256 video and also the short one about the missed selfie containing the whole mankind.

[@Travel_Videos]

@david hong the earth isn't flat you need to wake up. In the southern hemisphere in summer, every city in every country has the sun rising in the south-east and in the middle of the day it is almost 90 above you then set in the south west. So does the sun go out over the ice wall and not melt it? Take look at the sun direction, it is lower than all the countries. The sun does not zig zag in and out but works perfectly on a globe with axial tilt. Welcome back to the globe.

[@garyryan7852WR]

Really . For an adult to believe he lives on a spining ball with the techknology of today . He has to be an idiot .

[@user-bz3mr3bo9h]

Roses are red violets are blue i subscribed for april fools prank and so did you

[@Phoenix2312]

INDEED! But end up being edumacated instead... :) and I love it!

[@MatthewWeathers]

Ha! Yes... but April Fools is a long way away, so I thought I'd put a few other things on the channel for now. Warren: glad you liked it.

[@ramegni3604]

I didn't actually that's the first video inwatched but i never subbed

[@fastcsx1412]

Wow your a mind reader lol

[@ramegni3604]

@@fastcsx1412 outa here booi

[@Pokestir]

Wow I love how organized this video is! Very well done!

[@netrixz4170]

why do un educated people make conclusions

[@fermiticus4034]

They're too dumb to know just how dumb they really are. The average person isn't all that smart....50% are below average!

[@NargisTheViking]

What is education now a days? Just because someone went and got indoctrinated by all the pseudoscience out there makes them smarter than the "average" person? Critical thinkers are the most smartest people on earth and they get looked at badly. Stop listening to theories after theories and go do your own research.

[@netrixz4170]

I did not say that. It does not make them smarter. It makes them more knowledgeable. How can someone who does not understand a topic make conclusions about that topic?

[@jamesmullen5398]

Fermis And the average ain’t that high to begin with!

[@mkrogers7]

Flat Earthers: *iT flAt beCoUse i c nO cuRve in eaRth*

[@ChuckBeefOG]

Round Earthers: ItS RoUnD BecAuuz BilL NyE sEz sO

[@swatbadge]

Ding ding! Totally worth that bell. Thank you Sir.

[@swatbadge]

The Blissful Zombie you said Neil.. why? 😁 Pluto's habitants are watching him... Don't worry...

[@jwickerszh]

You're on to something, sort of, weight IS caused by Gravity, that's just the name we give the physical force. Guess now everything makes sense for you, you are welcome!

[@Jazking95Plays]

Man I wish that all teachers are awesome like you!

[@Cheesemonster1111]

Hi I saw your April fools video and it’s soooooo funny! Good job!

[@harrytsang1501]

I thought the video would be in a classroom with a jet flying outside of the video player window It turned out to be very educational and I appreciate it.

[@MatthewWeathers]

Ha! Thanks. And guess what? I tried making a video sort of like you described. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaucc5yirpWSqrc - but I never really did much with that. Here's what it looked like in class: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX_Jq36nhKqmidkm1s

[@kallewirsch2263]

There is another experiment, I did when I was a young man. Have you ever noticed, that suprisingly you are able to give a pretty good estimate to where the noise of an airplane in flight is originating while watching it from the ground? You might have never tried that, but given a quiet surrounding, looking at the path of a plane there seems to be a spot of noise following the plane. Of course this is, because sound travels much slower then light and it takes some time for the sound to reach your ears. Just for fun, in those days I tried to use this to figure out, at what altitude the plane is flying and given the angle between the "noise patch" and the plane, how fast it is flying. While not perfectly accurate, the numbers were not that much off the numbers usually given in plane specs. So for a FE there is only one conclusion: the speed of sound is also not what THEY told us. See, this is the major problem with FE. Once you start believing in FE, then pretty much everything else also must be a lie. The shape of the earth does not stand isolated as some obscure fact. It has indirect implications to a lot of other areas.

[@onee]

Can't believe that conspiracy people are downvoting this video simply because they lack the knowledge of basic physics.

[@wooshbait5564]

I would like to always go to school if you were my teacher I swear

[@sexigrande1792]

Flat earthers Believe aircraft don’t store fuel and turbine engines run off of 100% compressed air... depending on which one you talk to, their conspiracies contradict the other.

[@johnleon6737]

Informative channel ; would you please make a video about jet fuel or lack thereof ?

[@MatthewWeathers]

That's a little harder to do, since you'd need to have access to diagrams of fuel tank sizes.

[@PabloGonzalez-hv3td]

I find it interesting that no one questions where the fuel is stored in large piston powered aircraft like a B-29 but in jets it's suddenly impossible

[@pr0d16y9]

Awesome video Professor Weathers 🙂. I know its been over two months, but I can't wait to see more content when you upload again. I wish I live in California because I would certainly enjoy sitting in to your class, hands down, hehe

[@3User]

You literally are the best teacher ever.

[@JB-ku7kv]

that's the exaggeration of the day

[@ryuhayashi97]

Ahhh... I feel smarter after i gain knowledge, thank you Mr. Matthew!

[@WakarimasenKa]

Great video.

[@michaeltalbot8242]

Excellent how concise and calmly present ed video on a very contentious issue as a qualified aerospace engineer I think this is brilliant well-done especially the maths elements

[@MatthewWeathers]

Thanks, I appreciate your kind words. I believe that calmly-presented evidence can be helpful. Yes, there's a place for videos that mock conspiracy theories, and those can be very entertaining to watch. But they're not going to convince anyone to change their minds. They're mainly for the entertainment of people who already disagree with the conspiracy.

[@GrasponReality]

There is another way to calculate landing speeds just using the length of the video and motion of the plane. The distance from the start of the runway to the beginning of the landing zone is standard at all class 1 airports at 1250 feet.. Even without using a time accurate to 0.1 seconds it generally takes a plane 6 seconds to travel that distance... which is about 141mph... The whole argument is ludicrous which seems to be "it's not as far as we think" A mile isn't a mile... Of course the problem with that that none of them ever think about is if a mile isn't actually a mile then a foot isn't a foot and an inch can't be an inch either. You can't have some measurements accurate and others not and not have it be completely obvious... I asked one of these guys if they were less than 2 feet tall.. What I think they're trying to do is fix the problem of distances in the Southern Hemisphere but that actually requires a flexible length of a mile... they need a mile to be a mile in some parts of the world but a mile to be 3 miles in others... The whole thing comes down to there literally is no idea so stupid that a flat earther somewhere won't take it seriously.

[@fermiticus4034]

*The whole thing comes down to there literally is no idea so stupid that a flat earther somewhere won't take it seriously.* BINGO!

[@jamesmullen5398]

Brilliant!

[@Chriswizzv12]

Nice work, I dare say you will not change the simple minds of nofuelflatearthsmallplane’ers. But nice video, well presented and easy to understand. Subscribed.

[@salem1451]

Couldn't ask for a better way to spend the summer!

[@frequencydecline5250]

I've never seen the thing about planes being small. LOL. But I have had the unfortunate click which took me into a world where people think airports are being faked and are using actors to walk back and forth changing clothing and pretending that airports are busy.

[@frequencydecline5250]

Oh I know. It’s not that a sucker is born every minute but that you can keep suckering a sucker every minute.

[@RogueAssassin]

You’re the best teacher 👍

[@discoverlokal]

that was a nice lecture sir loved it

[@tweyland1971]

I definitely agree with your conclusions about In’n’out!

[@Johnadams20760]

great video, you know, I have actually always had fun trying see how fast I go in a plane. for one thing, if I am along a highway, especially lower, I will see cars, knowing they are going around 60-80 mph and watching as we totally whiz by them like nothing, and then even more so, when higher up I try to find semi trucks, as they are dots but I can find them and its faster, and one otherthing I do is I always get a window seat, I will put my finger as refrence point, and I know for the most part at least for a lot of the flight, that the roads are all about 1 mile apart. it is probably a little futher if I am going at an angle to the square but I noticed it takes 7 to 8 seconds to cross a mile which comes out to be around 500 mph plus/minus. bu tI love this!

[@alancrabb]

Yay! Somebody more intelligent than me agrees with me. More please! Thanks.

[@gamepocalypsegaming278]

Wonderful

[@whitehole2425]

It's not to difficult to to prove goggle maps isn't lying. Go to any athletics running track on google maps. This either going to be 200 meters or 400, do some research on the one you have chosen to find out how large the track is then go back to google maps and measure the circumference of the track. I done this on my local track and got 399.6 meters this will be down to the fact it is hard to measure an oval accurately with lines in goggle maps. If we establish google maps works you could then go to an airport on google maps and measure a plane.

[@jamesmullen5398]

Or you can measure a football field which is known to be 100 yards.

[@whitehole2425]

Yeah, it always confuses me how these people struggle to understand simple physics and technology concept yet believe that they can measure speed and size just by looking at things

[@fanlikesfans2561]

We're gonna tell the flat earthers that we are gonna hack the earth and make it round

[@daniebudipratomo8145]

After watching this video my brain need take a break

[@magneticking4339]

There actuaĺly is a way you can obtain very precise measurements of the planes real speed, in mm/s... Ok, maybe not that precise, but close. You would need 3 cameras that can geotag the film. That's it. Simply take 3 shots of the same plane as it lands, takes off, or flies by. That's it. Then you get the 3 shots and triangulate the plane. Then.... by simple triangulation you can get the precise location and size and speed of te plane.

[@benjaminkim1]

You are my favourite KZbinr

[@georgeknowles8762]

Last week on a rainy day (it always seems to rain when I go away) I was sitting in my caravan (travel trailer) looking at the passing clouds through the skylight. It took about 30 seconds for them to move the 60 cm from one side of the skylight to the other. That's 0.072 km per hour if my mental arithmetic is correct. If the clouds were at 10,000 metres and I was about 1 metre away from the skylight, that means they were travelling at 720 kph. Do clouds travel that fast? Are clouds that high? Note that my measurements are very approximate.

[@illuminatiminion6767]

@George Knowles Considering that you use the word caravan I'm assuming that you are in the UK. If it was rain clouds then they were almost certainly less than 1000 metres, possible only 200-300m. So the answer NO to both. The clouds were not that high, and they would have been moving at the same speed as the wind at that altitude. Probably < 50kph.

[@georgeknowles8762]

@@illuminatiminion6767 Thank you for your reply. What you are saying makes more sense than my own cloud height assumption. I do live in the UK, so really should know more about clouds than I do. We have lots of them (especially today).

[@CFAN123]

For one thing they clearly don't know the difference between "true airspeed", "indicated airspeed" and "ground speed".

[@NewsOnQueue]

Where are all of the flat earthers at in this video?

[@levicusx]

All you have to do is sort by newest

[@SuperPrDude]

Excellent video Sir. and for that i salute you.

[@Mitsou44]

I'm a beliver of the "Earth's shape is geoid" group

[@alancrabb]

Mitsou44 : "Earth's shape is geoid" group. ESIG - what kind of acronym is that? Anyway, aren't ecigs bad for you?

[@JohnnyMotel99]

Hang on a 'mo....these guys are NOW saying the planes are MUCH shorter than the stated length. So if the plane is half the length that means it could be flying at half the speed....or is it double....or is it twice as high....oh shit I'm so confused.

[@PabloGonzalez-hv3td]

That doesn't affect the rate at which it crosses fixed points in the slightest

[@Trapatatra]

Hello friend... International viewer here... Not miler one would say... Please KM/LT works for all of us. Please. Anyways I'm a new subscriber. Love you content, here because of SHA 256.

[@MatthewWeathers]

Thank you. I'm glad you liked the videos. And thanks for subscribing. Yes, I try to use kilometers more often these days.

[@lazyboyresearcher6472]

mathew, can those same planes fly at those same speeds with all that fuel weight?

[@spyersecol0013]

Lazyboy Researcher Yes.

[@JohnAnderson-br8zo]

I don't believe the Earth is flat but the one argument I have is when flat earthers do the camera zoom experiment. using the calculations that is accepted by mainstream science shows no curve. Mr Weathers, I would like u to debunk that argument. It won't be easy

[@delirium6109]

Which loony zoom experiment are you referring to? They have many.....all equally as ridiculous.

[@jwickerszh]

Also most loony flat earth "proof" as easily debunked using simple Math, and Matthew is a Math teacher LOL

[@kallewirsch2263]

For one that simple sentence "using the calculations that is accepted by mainstream science" is wrong in itself. FE usually refer to the 8 miles per mile rule. Well that rule is an approximation which holds for short distances only. What is wrong with using the proper formula, which includes (shudder) taking a square root? The approximation is good enough for short distanceas, since the globe is large enough, that at a small distance one can replace the spherical surface with the tangent plane at that point without introducing to much error. It is pretty much the same thing, as drawing a circle with a diameter of 100 feet onto a piece of usual DIN A4 paper. The slight curving of that circle section on the paper is almost indistinguishable from a straight line. But does this mean, it IS a straight line? Of course not. It is still a circle section, even if you do not notice with the naked eyes.

[@thenorthlinerfoundation9885]

Crossing the Lake Tahoe point was brilliant!

[@MC-874]

Flat Earth in a NUTSHELL

[@Americanspy-hn2kw]

@Korazelle did you take into account gravity

[@Americanspy-hn2kw]

@Korazelle so are Australians upside down?

[@Americanspy-hn2kw]

@@pt.2102 are you a flat earthen? Peanut size brain

[@lelandgrapes3636]

@Korazelle With that logic, why dont i get sent flying into a wall everytime i jump?

[@q_uvn8632]

I wished your Math Teacher because your so good in teaching!!!!

[@christian38097]

Thanks!!

[@howardrewald9817]

Just watch the shadow on the ground as a plane passes over it is fast

[@satyjeetshinde3859]

thanks professor.

[@MrNunez-uu1gc]

When are you going to upload and are you still working as a teacher

[@ytrebiLeurT]

I read "How fast do Jesus fly"...fuck me, lol

[@awathompson]

As an airline pilot, about 4 fuselage length per second at cruise.

[@commonavionics6069]

awathompson this would vary however by aircraft correct

[@awathompson]

Correct, an A319 moves about four length per sec while an A321 is closer to three.

[@hansnielsen4165]

Thx. for the video. Subscribed. However it is a disgrace, that it is at all necessary.

[@billyabell9378]

I don't know what to say either because I've stood right next to a few different types of Passenger Jets inside of a hanger. But what do I know I live on a stationary Earth just how it feels and I see a sun and moon the same size just as they look for me to believe anything else would be exactly that a belief

[@alexandrelambert4923]

At first glance you look like Mr. Bean. That’s a good thing!

[@colinfryett8174]

The best one is why are there 40 windows on certain planes when there are only 26 rows of 3 seats each side of the walk way lol

[@randomjasmicisrandom]

Mandy/Colin fryett because the windows don’t match up with the seats. Isn’t that obvious? Planes are delivered as a shell and the airline configure the interior dependent on need. Isn’t that obvious?

[@MrU4theChillWind]

@Matthew Weathers Great video. Someone else had a little bit of fun with one of the major "Planes fly slow, they're smaller than we're told" channels, and you might find it amusing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJSnnJJ5oMqHhas

[@MatthewWeathers]

Sorry for the late response. Thanks for the link. Interesting and entertaining video. I've subscribed to that channel.

[@charliejeans2413]

You havn't addressed the hovering planes ? Or ones that appear stationary..

[@MatthewWeathers]

Oh yeah... those are great. Those videos really do make it look like planes are hovering. However, they're always videos taken from a moving point of reference (like someone driving in a car). Whenever you use a stationary camera on a tripod, it's always obvious that the plane is actually moving (and the speed can be calculated). The exception is that there are times when a plane really is stationary: small prop planes heading into a strong headwind can fly slower than the headwind and actually be stationary. But this never happens for passenger jets.

[@joeeeee256]

Your videos are awesome :D

[@gold9734real]

i subscribed for april fools prank

[@Bdigi2012]

The problem is the distance and is being calculated by road mileage, trains and cars take turns and have stop signs as to where planes fly straight avoiding any turns , that’s why the plane speed is calculated to be faster, the amount of fuel is a lie too. They use minimal fuel to start the engine and from that point on run off compressed air

[@MatthewWeathers]

At 3:13, I show a video of a plane landing in San Diego. The distance there is based on a straight-line distance, so I think it's valid. Pilots of long-range jets report the plane being much lighter when they land than when they took off - as much as 250 tons lighter in the case of an A380. What else would account for the plane being so much lighter, if it's not fuel weight?

[@scottgarren]

Tool for the Elite.

[@Phoenix2312]

@Mattew Weathers I started subbing because of your April Fools pranks, but DAMN I loved this video... I respect the fact you have NOT gone out of your way to actually DISMISS anyone who believes in Flat Earth - In fact you have gave them a bone!!! And I loved the math!!! But then you got to how some people believe that the planes are NOT as big as we are told and ... OMG! ARE PEOPLE F**KING SERIOUS??? We have F**KING AIR SHOWS... YOU CAN STAND NEXT TO THE GOD DAMN PLANES AND SEE HOW DAMN BIG THEY ARE!!! Oh and lets not forget CHEM TRAILS.... Another popular Conspiracy Theory that Flat Earthers often believe in... If the planes are so small... WHERE THE FLYING F**K DO THEY STORE THE CHEMICALS??? (And yes even Nano Tech would need SOME KIND OF SPACE TO BE STORED SO DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THROWING THAT ONE 'TRUTHERS!') For the record, I am NOT against Flat Earth... Personally - I believe in the Muti-Verse Theory so I think they are right, From a certain point of view...

[@MatthewWeathers]

Thanks, Warren. I appreciate your comments. Yes, I've seen videos about chemtrails (I think those were the first conspiracy videos I ran across on KZbin years ago, in fact). I decided not to mention it in this video, just trying to limit the scope to one thing. The multi-verse theory is an interesting idea, and I will probably mention it in a future video some day.

[@barryweaver8833]

HEYyyyyyy.. That airplane looks like it's not moving very fast....... That must mean they're trying to trick us !!!!! (sarcastic) WTF???

[@stevie1221]

They fail to observe perspective distortion where the further a moving object becomes the smaller and slower they appear. Look how they show a commercial aircraft as small as a private aircraft of course the commercial seems slow it’s farther away. No commercial aircraft flies below 150 mph it would stall.

[@chrishorsfield6268]

I’ve been to that in-and-out

[@612Elm]

I have never been to an in and out.

[@MrJokkoma]

Aow man! Didn't take long to get this airspeed measuring right, and here we have this "enslaved by no media" who have worked he's but off during years of looking at planes whit he's 900 camera and it all turned to shit. Bad luck buddy!

[@Flat_Earth_101]

Matthew welcome to the rabbit hole of Flat Earth lol. Loved your concise breakdowns in this video, i bet I will enjoy this type of breakdowns as you delve into Flat Earth. Here's a couple topics I'd like to see your take on after doing some in depth research. A) the actual measurement of the Vacuum in space B) commercial grade ship radar C) Dr Robert Sunginus Geocentric Earth model videos D) MIT study on this barrier www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/nasas-van-allen-probes-spot-man-made-barrier-shrouding-earth/ E) and how photons reflect an travel to our eyes and P900 cameras. There's many more but that's a start. I just subscribed so I can keep up-to-date. P.S. it seems that KZbin hides the better Flat Earth videos under the debunk videos so lately I've been having to look else where for information.

[@kallewirsch2263]

On the other hand, sail boats, such as the ones racing in the Volvo Ocean race, need to go ridicously fast in order to make the leg from New Zealand to Rio de Janeiro in time on a flat earth.

[@bobwill]

Well, it has to do with flat earth in that the hoaxers that started making these videos have run out of BS regarding flat earth, and they need to keep the revenue stream up, you need to make up new conspiracies.

[@JB-ku7kv]

The measurements cant be squared on the video, you cant measure it that way.

[@Jeshua1737]

Ironically it is because of head and tail winds that aircraft can increase speed

[@AlpHaMatic307]

Please explain how planes can reach destinations, going 500mph, when the Earth is rotating at 1000mph. That's the science that needs to be explained, not mph conversions.

[@MatthewWeathers]

Oh, yeah, that's not too hard to understand: It's because the atmosphere is moving with the Earth, and planes are flying relative to the air, not the earth. (That's why they're called AIRplanes, not EARTHplanes.) Try pouring water from a water bottle into a cup when you're riding in a car going 50mph - it works because the water, the bottle, and the cup are all moving with the car.

[@JonBernhards66]

If Planes fly fast or not has nothing to do with flat earth! But about flat earth, this's a fac, that we are able to observe objects at incredibly long distances far beyond what would be possible if Earth were a globe, 25,000 miles in circumference as we're told. For example, it is a fact, that in Genoa, Italy, from just above sea-level, on clear days it is possible to see the distant islands of Elba, Gorgona, Capraia, and Corsica 80-125 miles away. It is a necessary theory that the globe-Earth must curve 8 inches per mile squared if it really is a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, but based on such a theory, these islands would all be completely hidden behind thousands of feet of curved Earth. In fact, the record-breaking longest distance zoom photograph ever taken recently showed Pic Gaspard from Pic de Finestrelles a whopping 275 miles away, at a height of under 10,000 feet, where, based on correct curvature calculations, the entire mountain should be invisible behind several miles of curved Earth.

[@MatthewWeathers]

For some Flat Earth believers, they solve the problem of flight times in the Southern Hemisphere by saying that we're being lied to about how fast jets fly. (For example, flight times Sydney-LAX vs Sydney-Santiago are about the same, but that doesn't work on the standard Flat Earth map.) So, for some people, jet speed is a part of the conspiracy. My video was examining that small part of it. As for the rest of what you say: yes, that might indicate the Earth is flat, but I believe each of those instances are also possible on a round Earth, given altitude and refraction.

[@miscuzzi8509]

Mr. Matthew didnt explain how the thin airplanes wind hold hundreds of tons of fuel. No amount of lift can transport that weight

[@MatthewWeathers]

Have you ever seen an A-380 up close? They're huge! It's the largest passenger jet in the world. And those wings are massive. They're thick, and made of very strong metal.

[@miscuzzi8509]

@@MatthewWeathers but over 100 TONS OF FUEL IN EACH WING, OVER A MILLION POUNDS TAKE OFF WEIGHT?!? IM NOT SAYING THEY DONT USE FUEL BUT THEY SURE AS HELL DONT DRINK A GALLON A SECOND. They use fuel to take off but once there in the air it mostly air pressure. Pressurized hot air gives them boost

[@lucastekkan]

@@miscuzzi8509 pressurized air doesn't give them a boost dumbass. Oxygen is not a fuel. Air is not a fuel. These things are built using something called ENGINEERING. Thanks to ENGINEERING, we can do amazing feats such as the A380 and the Burj Khalifa.

[@milo20060]

I liked the video but damn those imperial units...

[@optimine]

Setting aside the strange speed discrepancy thing, the hidden and yet in-plain-sight truth is that we don't live on a globe! The ocean is as flat as any body of water!

[@delollards9103]

Just want to point out that flight path's make zero sense on a globe and perfect sense on the azimuthal equidistant map. For instance take a look at the flights between South Afrika and Australia, or South Amerika and you have to admit that I am right. So unless airlines like to make extra distance (I don't have enough blind faith for that), we have to admit the obvious. That the earth is just flat.

[@rmfilms1866]

Dis is good very good

[@rudydoyle]

the only distances you can prove is where there is a shadow being produced on the ground. You have no proof at all with the higher elevation planes.

[@MatthewWeathers]

What about that flight over Lake Tahoe at 4:15 - did you find my analysis reasonable in that example? I don't know how high the plane was going, but it does seem like it went 11 miles in 70 seconds, which is pretty fast.

[@mason1617]

I wonder who those 39 people who disliked are?

[@skelly7943]

The next Einstein?

[@abcdefghjjklmnop]

The gov would never lie

[@olso4389]

This is fantastic. That "enslaved by no media" nutcase won't ever reply to my comments hahaha

[@randomjasmicisrandom]

D Olson he’s all over the comment section. Apparently when folks find out planes are smaller than we have been told ‘there will be hell to pay.’

[@chipstick1973]

👍🏻

[@vikramhrishikeshavan8924]

The gig is up! Earth is flat and more people are waking up.

[@A.F.P]

Hello sir, do u have an Instagram account? Love u & GBU

[@vincebernau127]

What does it have to do with the flat earth? Maybe because flights in the nothern hemisflat could fly slower than planes in the southern hemisflat? To give the illusion, that we live on a spinning ball? (To cover up greater distances in the southern "hemisphere")

[@MatthewWeathers]

Good question. And I wish I had explained that a bit better in the video to make the connection. My answer: one of the ways to argue against Flat Earth is to show that flight times don't match a Flat Earth map (particularly Northern Hemisphere vs Southern Hemisphere routes, as you mention). A frequent Flat Earth response is that speeds, measurements, distances, and flight times are being faked somehow. My video only deals with one small part of this conversation: how fast planes fly. (And they even have a response to that: "planes are half as big as we're told!" they say... sigh.)

[@randomjasmicisrandom]

Catpain Capslock hemisflat? Oh dear...

[@delirium6109]

Captain Capslock, I think you’re on the right track. The accepted speed and fuel range of commercial aircraft limit how much FEers can push whole continents around the place in order to try to make their square peg flat earth map fit into the glaringly obvious spherical hole. So instead of going back to the drawing board on their model that failed to describe the observed world, they make planes go impossibly slow with unlimited range........I know right? 😆 It’s an unraveling mess their models. It has them chasing their tail.....as soon as they try to fix one aspect (by making planes apparently go slower etc) it totally unravels another. The latest thing is that it’s square like a postcard with a Pac-Man sun (again). It’s very funny 😁

[@jwickerszh]

Their "excuses" are more and more desperate ... it's not like I've boarded a plane from a bus and seen the whole thing up close, or went to an airshow, or whatever other possible way one has to verify the size of a plane...

[@randomjasmicisrandom]

Jeremy Wickersheimer sometimes I wish the planes really were smaller. It’s no fun trying to get a young child all the way to the back of a plane even when the airline are being kind and let us get on first. Scuse me... scuse me... sorry, keep going....scuse me.... sorry...no, keep going, nearly there....

[@allashama]

All my life i though we were living on a 100% Spherical earth, when in reality it's not spherical but oblate.. 1972 the first picture of the earth show us a 100% spherical earth.. but today, 2018, the earth is now oblate.. Caused by surpopulation? lol.. they are trolling us.. the earth is static, the sky turn around us!

[@IronPhysik]

did you even consider how little of a difference the oblateness creates? no? maybe you should. if you cut a picture of earth in half and turn the cut away part 90° it wont match up with the circle anymore. there is a 1-3% difference in height to width of it, so its not that much.

[@blue7lvn245]

My guy has lost some serious weight

[@CriticalInception]

Strawman arguments abound. Nobody I know disputes plane speeds or sizes. I study aircraft and the physics of flight, and plane crashes. They need to go fast enough to keep from stalling. The only flights in dispute are between southern continents. What we've found is that the flights between south America and Australia are few and far between, they require a specialized aircraft, they get cancelled often and they rely on the jet streams. The vast majority of flights from South to south continents travel far North of the equator. There is an absurd amount of flights that do this. You cannot debunk "16 Emergency Landings Prove Flat Earth" by Eddie Alencar. Available for free download from KZbin channel "Flat Earth, Banjo, USA, Japan, and Brazil"

[@MatthewWeathers]

No, it *wasn't* a strawman argument. This video was directed at two KZbin channels: "Enslaved by No Media" (run by David Mispilkin in Boston) and "Jason Maggard" from Puyallup, Washington. It appears like David took his channel down, and Jason has deleted some of his content, too. But I can assure you, both of them were making videos about how planes aren't flying nearly as fast as claimed. There aren't many flights in the Southern Hemisphere because only 12% of the world's population lives there. Eddie's video is easily debunked. And most things about the Southern Hemisphere are a major problem for the north-centric Dubay Flat Earth model with the North Pole at the center of a Flat Earth.

[@CriticalInception]

@@MatthewWeathers you sound like a coincidence theorist.

[@billyabell9378]

That would work I guess if Earth was a hula hoop stop imagining things

[@mandovibrazrocha2295]

Cute. Nevertheless... it is necessary a minus sugn to batteries light the lamp.

[@patrikzanette]

Maybe some brains are flat...

[@thebahooplamaster]

Tbh the earth being flat just seems like something that would be fun to believe, knowing that it’s fake, and that everyone knows that the earth is round.

[@MatthewWeathers]

I used to think all Flat Earth people were like that - sort of a cool thing to believe, maybe like alchemy, or dressing up for a Renaissance fair - everyone knows it's fake, but they like to pretend anyway. Maybe it used to be like that, but things have changed. Some people really do sincerely think the earth is flat!

[@AetherMinecraft225]

never thought of people jokingly believe that the earth is flat

[@karltaylor2857]

Not think....know. Observable, testable, repeatable and verifiable. Scientific method says its flat unless you can A. show curvature using this method and B. show a real photo of earth, planet or satellite. CGI images of balls are not proof of earth being a sphere.

[@MatthewWeathers]

Tranquility Pyramids: The difference between thinking and knowing something is a very interesting question, and the subject of epistemology. Observation, testing, and verification are all important questions, as we try to figure out what counts as valid evidence for something. And your bring up an interesting example: NASA photos of the earth from the Apollo missions. For many people, that counts as solid evidence for a round earth. However, it sounds like for you, those don't count as good evidence. Although I didn't have time in this video to talk more generally about epistemology, I hope to talk about it more in a future video.

[@projekt84]

The Blissful Zombie. I like you.

[@scott_meyer]

What I wan to know is a rational motive for this cover up.

[@tyronetucker3093]

Im waiting for evidence of the curve

[@MatthewWeathers]

I think you're probably going to be waiting for a long time... If the current evidence isn't enough for you, then you're unlikely to change your mind. However, hardly anyone keeps believing that the Earth is flat for more than 10 years in a row. So you'll probably change your mind on your own before January 2030.

[@khunrichz4855]

Matthew...of course the difference is that you used math to make accurate calculations and since FE believers don't understand how math works they use their "senses" and come up with complete nonsense such as the comment at 2:12 "...to my eyes....that looks like 60 - 70 miles per hour..." You can't fix stupidity.