PLANET SHEEN LORE (making sense of the most confusing spinoff)

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JIMMY NEUTRON LORE
• JIMMY NEUTRON LORE (is...
Even MORE Lore (the playlist)
• LORE???
0:00 intro: why are we doing this? What is this?
0:44 The initial pitches
2:09 Character intros
5:02 Sheen’s character deterioration
8:06 The POWER shift… WHY DO THEY WORSHIP HIM?
12:08 What ARE the people of Zeenu? How many species?
14:30 The beasts / animals / SCPs
17:19 The emperor is EVIL
19:29 Princess Oom is a PREDATOR
20:53 Why I think this show failed
21:40 IS IT CANON??? A timeline
25:03 showing you some of the GOOD jokes (there are some)
25:38 The finale I WOULD PITCH TO NICK
26:20 now onto dinosaur train AHHHHHHHHH
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[@connorhealy3562]

I remember reading a fan theory somewhere online that Jimmy intentionally wrote that note to get Sheen in the rocket and send him as far away from earth as possible so that he couldn’t mess with his experiments again, which would also explains why he never goes to look for him or find him throughout the series. A likely story? No. Consistent with Jimmys character? Also no. Really funny to think about? Yes.

[@Mudfire15]

Jimmy's not going to be happy when he figures out what happened

[@elfish7766]

the theory that jimmy simply got sick of his shit is so funny to think about like what could have possibly caused that

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

I heard a theory that the Sheen in planet Sheen is actually an escaped clone. Remember Jimmy has a stash of clones lying around his lab.

[@theshenpartei]

I heard a version of that theory excerpt the sheen that was sent into space was a clone and you can see why

[@squeaktheswan2007]

Given what we found out in the Jimmy Neutron Athena video, it might actually be consistent with his character. Remember, this is the guy that made a highly addictive candy just to enslave his town.

[@LeafRazorStorm]

I still love how they took Nickelodeon's "No Carl" rule and just made another character that looks and acts exactly like Carl to mess with them.

[@madnessarcade7447]

True

[@XxM00nSHADExX]

what is neckelodeon’s no carl rule? never heard of that and genuinely curious

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

@@XxM00nSHADExX right me either

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

What’s the no Carl rule?

[@ogudemichael]

@@TheMOVIEMANIAC13 Absolute bullcrap. That's what it is.

[@Evan_L_Rodriguez]

Finally, our Latino icon gets his time to shine. And by “shine” I mean “get set on fire while we’re forced to watch”.

[@AthenaPOfficial]

Og sheen is god tier though

[@Cerothus25]

Time to shine? More like time to Sheen. I'll just see myself out, thanks.

[@ogome2927]

funnily enough i swear shine was one of the names nick used to call sheen in the old show when he didn’t know what his name was lol

[@raccoondogzz]

@@Cerothus25 you mean.. “i’ll just SHEEN myself out”

[@squeaktheswan2007]

​@@Cerothus25*yes*

[@kansastagai9081]

Honestly, Sheen having Amnesia probably would have helped this show a lot. Have him forget Earth and his past life entirely, but little bits slip in from time to time. Like he'll just randomly remember something Jimmy or Carl told him that helps save the day or give an inspirational speech that's clearly dialogue from Ultralord and there is a momment where he feels like something important has been forgotten but he brushes it off because that's just Sheen. You could even have an episode where he hits his head amd it looks like he's going to get his memories back but instead he thinks he is the real Ultralord and it's kind of a Buzz Lightyear situation. Would have been interesting, at least.

[@ogome2927]

should’ve given a spin off to my girl libby, they robbed her of a spin off deserved it all day long and they could’ve made a smart show going through libbys life in middle school or something. could’ve also returned jimmy and everyone else but as supporting characters, also could’ve explored her relationship with sheen too, they missed the boat on a spin off with libby!

[@Anonnnnomus]

Omg congratulations on so many subscribers been here since you were below 5k I believe

[@Evan_L_Rodriguez]

tbh in retrospect, a show about a foreigner showing up and taking command of an indigenous population with his “superior intelligence” probably would’ve gone over about as well as what we did get.

[@AthenaPOfficial]

OH 1000%

[@wornouthoodie]

a show about christopher columbus

[@glasscardproductions4736]

@@wornouthoodie, or maybe Richard Henry Pratt?

[@Spongyboi897]

There's a sci-fi film about that titled "Idiocracy", but it's aimed for a more mature audience

[@Evan_L_Rodriguez]

@@Spongyboi897 yeah, I watched Sarah Z’s video about it.

[@haleydawnisaur398]

I feel like Planet Sheen is an s tier example of why Comic Relief characters don't need their own shows

[@madnessarcade7447]

Disagree

[@haleydawnisaur398]

@@madnessarcade7447 Care to elaborate? I'm not starting an argument here, I just feel like it has the same vibe as the Patrick Star Show. Like it's unnecessary, adds nothing to the canon, and the characters often have to be changed in some way to carry the plot...at which point, why not just make a new character? I have Feelings™️ about it

[@ogome2927]

100% agree with this statement! comic relief characters whenever they get their own show always ruin their image, look at patrick rn and imho they should’ve just let libby had a spin off or something!

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

@@haleydawnisaur398 it’s because those sidekicks are so stupid that they don’t hold any substance as far as a stand alone show goes

[@nothingunique253]

Honestly, if they just kept Sheen as Sheen, the show might have gone better, maybe add a few more traits to flush out his character more. What they did instead was completely erase his good qualities! It could have been good if Sheen was just Sheen and not a total jerk.

[@richardsmith9704]

Nickelodeon says, "we don't really make shows following an adult main character" when their biggest show follows a character cannonically in his 30s

[@bluecretan7441]

SpongeBob is only an adult psychically

[@ShadeATV]

I think he was 13 though

[@bluecretan7441]

@@ShadeATV nah, man is a whole adult with a house and a job

[@richardsmith9704]

@AgentSmithsCookies there was an episode where Spongebob got his license in a dream and it had his birthdate on it, and it said he was somewhere in his 30s

[@alexjewett7455]

Maybe they meant human adults.

[@raec.9308]

Even if Princess Oom was a child, it's still obvious that she's way older than Sheen. It's like watching a 16 year old pursue a 12 year old who is clearly not into it. I remember watching this show was a kid and being really uncomfortable with their dynamic.

[@justnamedjosie]

i looked up the ages of the characters. princess oom is 17. i kept on getting conflicting answers on sheen though, one said 15 and another said 12. if sheen is 15 then it’s just a 2 year age gap, but even then it doesn’t really matter because you can tell he’s so uncomfortable with princess oom advances and wants nothing to do with her. and if sheen is 12 then fucking yikes it makes it so much worse and all the more disgusting.

[@negligible_reality]

@@justnamedjosie tbh 15 and 17 is still a major yikes. sure it's just a 2 year age gap, but there's still a lot of important physical, mental, and emotional development that would take place during those 2 years. honestly age gaps are just kinda wack when we're talking about people that young in general imo. like if it was 15 and 16 then maybe i could see it more, or even 16 and 17. idk it's just the fact that she's so close to being a 18 and a legal adult, meanwhile he's still very much a minor even if you age him up a year as well. but yeah, it doesn't really matter that much because the whole situation is just really gross, disturbing, and uncomfortable either way. 🤢🤮💀

[@okjeffy6581]

I remember watching this show on YTV in 2011 and not really having much of an opinion on it. Only Watched it when there was nothing else on TV.

[@billybarnett9518]

@@negligible_reality 15 and 17 isn't bad, it's only two years.

[@RichardWaugh-vd2df]

@@billybarnett9518for real I don’t see the problem 🤨

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Both Stephanie and Sportacus are considered the main protagonists by the show, but I feel Stephanie is a bit more of a main character. Sportacus is meant to be the responsible and healthy counter to the irresponsible, evil, and unhealthy Robbie Rotten. Sportacus was losing before Stephanie made it there. With Stephanie moving to the town, Stephanie sees firsthand what's wrong with the town, and encourages exercise, which further promotes Sportacus's agenda. So with Stephanie now on Sportacus's side, it's two against one. Stephanie is meant to be the "I'm a kid just like you, and I want you to be more like me!" relatable character.

[@kelsey2333]

Wow kim Jong-un you are so wise!!! (Pls dont nuke my town)

[@kelsey2333]

Real talk though, you sure picked one hell of an account name lol🤣🤣 north Korea be crazy

[@TheResidence.mp4]

Oh my goodness! King God Emporer Kim Jong-un! Thank you for the analysis! I'm a big fan! (Please don't start another world war)

[@HazbinCovenWitch]

I wanted to dress up as her when I was little for Halloween, but the costume sizes for it were to small for me. 😭

[@KingOfGaymes]

I was in love with sportacus as a child

[@poeticcinema5857]

I just took a brief, 15-minute nap where I had a dream where we got an edgy grimdark version of Jimmy Nutron where they were all in high-school and hated eachother and I woke up in a cold sweat, opened KZbin, and immediately saw this on my feed.

[@normanclatcher]

You saw the future.

[@user-me3ge8de4o]

Fascinating

[@negligible_reality]

wait a minute.... an edgy version of a beloved children's show, where the main cast are all in high school, and hate each other??? dude that's just HBO Max's Velma lmao. 💀

[@noods1406]

@@negligible_realityand the cancelled CW PPG reboot

[@Wild_Card69]

I have a fan theory that this whole spin-off happened when Sheen got into Jimmy's Lab, and--rather than get into a rocket--he gets into Jimmy's chemistry set and was tripping out the entire time.

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

That’s a mood

[@ochaco_the_moon_watcher]

No, that’s a fact

[@BrendanJSmith]

I will never not be pissed that we got this instead of Jimmy Neutron Season 4.

[@AthenaPOfficial]

Same!!!!!

[@IDontExist768]

I preffered Planet Sheen

[@zombinary3138]

Danny Phantom fans : yeah…( at the very least our fandom is still insanely active to the point where it’s baffling based on how long ago it aired lol, hope the jimmy neutron fanbase gets more of a footing thanks to Athena’s lovely videos on it though!

[@clyne8835]

@@IDontExist768 wrong opinion

[@sadchap2780]

@@IDontExist768 that's cool, we've all got different tastes

[@Lutefisk445]

You should delve into the world of All Hail King Julien. Every episode has so much going on in the best way possible.

[@RulerOfArniskad]

YES!!! THANK YOU!! ALL HAIL KING JULIEN WAS MY CHILDHOOD!! I loved the characters, especially Mort! It was such a Rollercoaster and it probably made me who i am 🤣 also when i was younger i didn't have any knowledge of foot fetishes so i never thought anything of Mort's obsession with King Julien's feet. EDIT: getting a heart from athena makes me believe that'll be next after dinosaur train EDIT 2: where'd my heart go D:

[@bulbakingdoot3514]

Adding on to @Cool Name’s comment, don’t forget to watch the Exiled miniseries in between Seasons 4 and 5

[@Lutefisk445]

@bulbakingdoot3514 yes, because Netflix is dumb and split them up.

[@Lutefisk445]

@@RulerOfArniskad I've been rewatching the show and I've taken notice of all the extra crazy things that happen. All the consistencies and subtle hints at personality and everything else. It's beautiful.

[@Mudfire15]

That show.... Kinda ruined Mort for me...

[@avastoyboxandarcade]

"Jimmy and friends rescuing Sheen" actually was a movie that was going to happen. I really wish we got it :(

[@ogome2927]

it prolly could’ve led to a jimmy neutron revival, depressing when you think deep about it.

[@genericcartoonreactionchan3890]

Maybe Jimmy gave sheen some sort of shroom for Science… and Planet sheen is just Sheen rambling about stuff well being under the influence

[@AthenaPOfficial]

You know what?? This is the best theory. But also *don’t do drugs to any kid reading along at home 😤*

[@KamiAva]

That's so on brand? Idk to me as a child jimmy was scary and a dick fr!! ᕙ⁠(⁠＠⁠°⁠▽⁠°⁠＠⁠)⁠ᕗ

[@SaphiraThePhantom]

@@AthenaPOfficial eff that, do drugs!

[@whatamidoing8566]

The only character on drugs theory I’ll accept

[@genericcartoonreactionchan3890]

@@AthenaPOfficial Yes, Drugs are bad.

[@LividLivie]

One of the jokes from the show I still reference to this day is when Sheen was trying to make a 'milkshake maker' to get a milkshake. "How do I make a milkshake maker...Wait, if I reverse engineer the process and start off with a milkshake, then I wouldn't even need a milkshake maker because I already have a milkshake to begin with!" It made me chuckle just paraphrasing. Also that one scene where Sheen was very meticulously explaining how he brushed his teeth to the court made my father laugh like a madman for some reason, not sure why.

[@my23bear]

"Laugh like a madman" Aka the most famous """symptom""" of vague mental disorder.

[@dylansickinger545]

@@my23bearalso just a common saying for “laughed a lot”

[@sydneyw7375]

Fun fact: Nesmith is named after the late Michael Nesmith of the Monkees. He even wears a wool hat which was Mike’s signature look. :)

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

That’s cute 🙊

[@angelmarin6442]

That probably won't help Nesmith prove he is an ape. Haha😂😂

[@ultimateninjaboi]

Princess Oom got lost on the way to whatever anime she was meant to be in and accidentally ended up in this show

[@lordoffrogsinbogs]

Planet Sheen feels like such a fever dream from my childhood

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

More like Fever nightmare

[@thedarkoracle4807]

I hope you enjoy Dinosaur Train. I was a bit too old for it when it came out, but my little brothers liked to watch it and that meant that I would watch it since I was often watching my brothers while my parents were busy. And to my shock, Dinosaur Train was kinda cute and wholesome. From what I can remember at least.

[@HarryStikers]

As an adult who actively watches it to fall asleep, you remember correctly.

[@allen2reckless676]

Yes do dinosaur train fucking love that show as someone who was born in 2000. Being a teen when this show came out or when i saw it. I loved it

[@mybodyisamachine]

Does it have lore?

[@qsd5413]

@@mybodyisamachine only slightly more than these other shows have lore

[@thedarkoracle4807]

@@mybodyisamachine It's a show about a young T-rex and his adopted Pteranodon family who constantly ride a time traveling locomotive so they can learn about the different dinosaurs that lived throughout the different prehistoric eras.

[@nicklovejoy6451]

Note-one of the main theories I've seen on the show is that the Sheen in this is a Sheen Clone made with Jimmy's clone tech, who's even dumber than the real sheen

[@barbararab6390]

It would explain why he doesnt have that much of an attachment to earth or his relationships there. Also explains why Jimmy never bothered to go after him

[@ogome2927]

this theory or the “it was all a dream” theory are the two theories that i subscribe too

[@yourtimetraveleralara]

​@@ogome2927yeah me too

[@lemonberryconda]

This video is absolutely enriching, I fucking love it, but I immediately got blindsided by hearing that Nick genuinely said "We don't do shows centered around an adult main character" as though the poster child for their company isn't a whole ass adult with a full time job. Nickelodeon fell for the Minorbob Childpants propaganda, I never thought I'd see the day. Regardless, as someone who only heard about Planet Sheen secondhand, seeing it explored in depth like this is...fascinating because the show certainly looks like a Choice that Nickelodeon made.

[@alexsensing6761]

The last episode of the series, "Banana Quest" ended with Sheen ending up with a cold after he went on quest to find a banana for Nesmith. This in my opinion is a very big cliffhanger that not only will Sheen be stuck on Zeenu, but he will also REMAIN SICK!

[@angelmarin6442]

That was probably a gag for ending sick episodes during then. Not that I know. I'm just guessing.

[@kandyeggs]

You did a great job of articulating why Planet Sheen didn't live up to anyone's expectations. I tried watching it when it first aired, didn't quite grasp why I hated it so much, then didn't look at it again until now. No wonder the show still lingered with discomfort in my brain 😵‍💫

[@ogome2927]

should’ve given a spin off to my girl libby, they robbed her of a spin off deserved it all day long and they could’ve made a smart show going through libbys life in middle school or something. could’ve also returned jimmy and everyone else but as supporting characters, also could’ve explored her relationship with sheen too, they missed the boat on a spin off with libby!

[@okjeffy6581]

I never really had much of an opinion when watching it on YTV in 2011.

[@huntertatterson1918]

Funny enough, a small while ago, Rob Paulsen (VA for Carl & Doppy) did a podcast in-character as Carl and "confirmed" that Sheen never went to space... but he has been to juvey.

[@peachtea7269]

Thanks Rob Paulsen I needed to know that

[@Loopzxx]

im losing it over the "eggs don't sing" *egg serenades Sheen*

[@larissac9598]

This was a fever dream from my childhood. On a tangentially-related note, would you please consider reviewing Lazytown in this series? I think you would get a kick out of it!

[@memethyst]

i went through an unironic lazytown phase in 2017... i was 16... i would love to see her make a lore video on it

[@seekerstheshy3842]

hell yeah!

[@michimichimii]

@@memethyst i did the same thing when i was 14. I'm so glad i wasnt the only one LMAO.

[@okjeffy6581]

Fionna??

[@larissac9598]

@@okjeffy6581 Yes, that the character in my pfp.

[@PieNumber4]

I think Jimmy had been watching the planet for a while in hopes to conquer his first world, but Sheen accidentally saves them by getting rid of the rocket.

[@queenkitten7092]

4:18 Still can’t believe she replaced our Queen Libby!

[@ogome2927]

not only did she replace her as a love interest, but they also stole libby the spin off she should’ve deserved lol!

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

"Truthfully, I wanted to see if I could get away with pretending the series didn't exist, but I could not" Athena really said *"There is no Planet Sheen in Ba Sing Se."* ...yeah they made the show worse by not letting Carl tag along. My canon is they said no to Carl because when they think of Carl, they think of his love for Jimmy's mom, and while yes it was weird, that's what made Carl a funny character because he's not meant to be taken seriously. I agree that if they let them do a Carl-esque character like Doppy and even bring back Carl's voice actor (Rob Paulsen), they might as well have let them have the real Carl! And I'm glad someone else hated that princess because listening to her was always pain. If anything, this show made me mourn DNA Productions' death in 2006 even more, because it's just not the same chemistry that they created with Jimmy Neutron

[@ogome2927]

truth be told, they shouldn’t have given a spin off to either carl or sheen have a spin off. they’re too much of comic relief characters to carry a show on their own, a spin off starring libby or hell even nick and having a more grounded in reality show about teenage life, crazy adventures and even show some of the old characters from the old show would’ve been more welcomed.

[@kelsey2333]

The fish with the glowing bulb from finding Nemo is actually called an angler fish. They are real, they live in the deep sea. That glowing bulb is to attract prey I believe. Angler fish actually arnt that big, they looked super huge and scary in finding Nemo. The deep sea is like another planet, it is awesome. Hey they probably got inspiration from the angler fish

[@EclipseDoesArt]

The angler fish in Finding Nemo is also specifically female! Male anglers are way smaller and shaped differently!! Pardon my nerd brain 😅

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

@@EclipseDoesArt just keep swimming 🐠 🐟 😂

[@lilypyrope4620]

I feel like Planet Sheen was created as a more "kid-friendly" spinoff of Jimmy Neutron. Not because it was kid friendly by any means, but Jimmy Neutron seemed more of a mature show by comparison. I'm not sure, this is like old memories driving my thought process

[@Uay778]

I believe Rob Paulson mentioned some stuff about planet sheen on his podcast while talking as Carl. but That’s dubiously canon at best

[@RudeRabit]

About what you said at the beginning, you could technically say there’s 3 shows with an adult main character, if you wanna consider SpongeBob as an adult. His age is debatable but there’s many hints that he’s not a kid.

[@AthenaPOfficial]

I definitely view him as an adult I think I just overlooked him because he isn’t a human 😅

[@Inksanity]

I'd say it's not debatable whatsoever, he explicitly lives completely independently from his parents, doesn't go to primary school, and has a career Plus, there were way more than 3 closer to the time Planet Sheen started, like T.U.F.F. Puppy, Back at the Barnyard, and Robot and Monster

[@Giran_0]

I guessing they meant no human adults cuz CatDog and Rocko are also adults

[@ijustlikebees]

@@Giran_0 actually come to think of it, I can't think of many children's cartoons that have adult humans as protagonists

[@connorbeith3232]

One of the main plot points of the first film is that he's a kid lol

[@vampiricn1ght]

One thing you didn't mention about the Emperor and his people is how he addresses them. Whenever he addresses the masses its "People of Xinu... And Oom." Something even Sheen does. Apparently she's not considered a member of their people (?) Idk this always stuck with me

[@sweeetjuicetv]

technically stephanie is the main character of lazytown, but i wholeheartedly feel that sportacus and robbie rotten stole the show (rip stefan 💔 still miss u villain #1) (source is that lazytown was a Main special interest of mine for about four years)

[@creaturw]

There was an episode I vaguely remember where Sheen and Doppy are talking, and I THINK Doppy revealed he actually was Carl the whole time. While Sheen and Carl were playing on Earth he accidentally launched Carl into the air where he got hit by a plane but survived, and after that flashback Doppy explains how he mutated into what he is now.

[@patrickj994]

To my knowledge this isn't really in the show, but there's an episode of Rob Paulsen's podcast where he (As Carl) says that Doppy is actually Carl in an alien costume sent by Jimmy to keep an eye on him.

[@saltygibus5746]

Nope--I remember the scene, that flashback was just Sheen noticing how similar Carl and Doppy looked.

[@creaturw]

@Salty Gibus Ah ok. Thank you

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

@@patrickj994That actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it.

[@syppy7416]

Why didn't they go with Nesmith as the main character? if the network didn't want an adult human as The MC, wouldn't the next logical step be a space chimp? I know the movie literally named Space Chimps likely came out around the same time (please tell me whether or not that's accurate) but it's not like the studio behind it could really do anything against Nickelodeon

[@TheResidence.mp4]

Space Chimps the movie came out in 2008, Planet Sheen in 2010, so fairly close. Honestly I think it was an idea that could've worked without anyone getting in a spiff about stealing ideas.

[@jmaldonado790]

I think nicks thing is that the main character needs to be a child or child like. That’s why SpongeBob got a pass to be a main character even though he is an adult with a job. Nesmith is way too reasonable to be a good Nickelodeon MC, it might’ve worked for another network though.

[@ogome2927]

nesmith could’ve worked, but for me libby or nick would’ve been better for spin off. just a normal, grounded show about middle school life or something, with the adventures and shenanigans of the og show still in there too. and if you look at the majority of jimmy neutron fanfics, most of them have the same plot i have just given so most fans would’ve preferred it like that

[@syppy7416]

@@ogome2927 yeah, but in this case the hypothetical series has no connection to Jimmy Neutron

[@ogome2927]

@@syppy7416 oh yh 100%! your show is a good idea too, i was just thinking mines of being more as a spin off to the og show.

[@MissMarigold32]

I hope your sanity is still intact after this, but on the plus side (as someone who grew up with dinosaur train) Dinosaur Train is significantly less dark, more cohesive, and I have no memory of cute creatures getting hurt/eaten. Plus it has a really sweet adoptive family side plot that runs alongside the education plot

[@wornouthoodie]

honestly athena had no sanity. i love it.

[@faeattemptinggacha6578]

Literally just finished the Jimmy neutron video, now planet sheen will haunt my dreams

[@ogome2927]

“THE ESTEVEZ IS AGGRESSIVE!”

[@danton1]

"I did not know 26 episodes could make me *smile* this hard "

[@AthenaPOfficial]

It’s only been an hour of this video being out and we’re already rewriting history 😭😭

[@icebearlikestrains6238]

i genuinely thought this show had like 5 seasons or something with how much i watched it when it was on and how it haunts me. i'm very surprised to learn there was only a 26 episode season

[@madnessarcade7447]

I loved the colorful eccentric unique cast of characters

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

>Unique >One of them is literally Carl lol

[@madnessarcade7447]

@@TheHeroOfTomorrow ok but their loophole of not being able to use Carl is unique

[@TheResidence.mp4]

@@madnessarcade7447 I really thought your initial comment was ironic

[@madnessarcade7447]

@@TheResidence.mp4 no it wasn’t I actually found them colorful and eccentric and diverse I’m not a cynic

[@blehh_mae]

i think the characters are the only good part of the show but even then they still fall in the whole random = funny thing

[@iraxme7918]

I forgot how insane this series was. I’d only ever watch it when I was younger if there was NOTHING else on, and afterwards I just blocked the memories of the episodes out. It was good to see the show again through the hilarious and informative lens of Athena though!

[@johnwarren9151]

I really enjoyed your theory on when Planet Sheen takes place. Another small detail I was thinking about was the fact that Jimmy was building another rocket, but, why?Jimmy has already solved and created his own space travel. Which, until he wins a space ship in that game show, was how the Neutron gang got around the galaxy. So yeah, what if the rocket Sheen takes is made from parts and pieces of the Yolkian ship that the kids take at the end of the movie, which is why when Sheen presses the button it essentially fails leading to the start of the spin-off series. It fails cause Jimmy hasn't finessed space travel yet.

[@FriendlyToons]

6:28 I agree with you this is a problem I have with a lot of spin offs. The characters don't mention there love ones or friends. It's a cliche that I really hate and I feel like it's the writers trying to establish there own story... But Shene not even talking about ultra lord is a good example of chattering the cannon

[@ThatDudeOnline_335]

You should cover “the secret show” It’s about 2 spies who go on different adventures in different whacky ways. It was like totally spies(because it was also released in the early 2000’s) meets inspector gadget(except their not robots, but the female spy is a mermaid.(yes this was a real thing in the show) and the other spy impersonated an alien when he and the mermaid spy lady went to space.) I feel like there is A-LOT to cover when talking about this show.

[@Shadowonwater]

OMG YES The Secret Show! I swear nobody ever talks about it but I loved that show as a kid! I don't remember the mermaid thing, but hey, it's been awhile, must have forgotten.

[@steampunk-llama]

The Secret Show fucking ruled, I always loved it as a kid

[@y2commenter246]

Fun show. My parents watched it with me; they loved the "name changed daily" gag.

[@santaclara6112]

Anita is a MERMAID?!?! It's been like 15 years since I watched that show, so I don't remember that.

[@ThatDudeOnline_335]

@@santaclara6112 it was in season 2 episode 23 I think. It was an episode called “The Abyss”

[@charlescannon9588]

I remember an episode of Jimmy Neutron where Sheen said he "sabatogued [his] highly scientific mind with sugar and cartoons" because being smart was too hard. Also when Jimmy, Carl, and Sheen's brains are shown, his is average-sized. I think Sheen is actually intelligent, but suffers from untreated neurodivergency and self-doubt.

[@marianaesquivel8567]

I think one of the main reasons that spin off shows about side characters fail, it's because showrunners don't realize that sometimes side characters only are effective as side characters; they become annoying or too much if they are made the focus. Specially with Sheen, he works better in small doses like in Jimmy Neutron. Example: Kronk in the Emperor's New Groove movies.

[@ogome2927]

shows about side characters can work, look at better call saul for an example of that, it depends on the character’s personality. if they’re a comic relief then god no, but if they’re a grounded character it can work. i for one believed a spin off starring libby could’ve worked if they just gave it a chance

[@cosmic_heartz6480]

@@ogome2927 even then sometimes the comic relief character having a spinoff can work in some capacity ( ie all hail king julian )

[@ogome2927]

@@cosmic_heartz6480 i still stand by the theory that with comic relief most of the time it just can't work, all hail king julian was average tbh imo and i prefered him in penguins when he was used in a reduced role as well.

[@1th_to_comment.]

I'm sorry, but you Kronk isn't the embodiment of perfection sent by God himself in order to save the human race from Yizma? How could someone think something so blasphemous?!

[@PlagueBunny]

“The ‘tralalala’ is silent but felt.” Why did that get me😂

[@wyattdupre2721]

If there is a JN reboot i hope this show is cannon only for them to blow up the planet in a throw away gag

[@madnessarcade7447]

That’s mean

[@ogome2927]

would be lovely as a “yep we messed up” alright gag lol

[@michelangelomichaelmorrice6910]

Day 2 of asking for Arthur lore: DW fantasizes about using her father for slave labor to carry around her earwax vaccum

[@Punkzilla-]

She WHAT

[@negligible_reality]

ayo WHAT????? 💀😭

[@IzzyRoseDoesArt]

Weird 3d animated nick shows made my childhood just a little more scary. Planet Sheen was one of them.

[@icelingbolt]

I like to imagine all this series was a single 30 minute fever dream nap sheen had after being overstimulated from years of being friends with jimmy

[@somethingsuperbland8829]

I really hate the Oom licking “jokes” bc it’s literally just “SA is okay if it’s a boy” and that makes my blood boil through the roof.

[@AthenaPOfficial]

SAME like i couldn’t even joke during that section it’s just so disgusting and infuriating

[@somethingsuperbland8829]

@@AthenaPOfficial once again based. Thank you for being on the side of ALL victims. It means a lot more than you’ll ever know.

[@williamn1055]

"Don't get a UTI just to impress some girl" Preach girl

[@ninjapotatolorf6237]

I don't know why, but this makes me want a lore video on Fanboy and Chum Chum

[@normanclatcher]

They were contemporaries and both are aggressively zany 3D cartoons. Seconded, by the way.

[@madnessarcade7447]

@@normanclatcher fanboy and chum chum is very unique and underrated

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

What was the burger show where the puppets were scoffing like stuck up valley girls ??? It’s not a fever dream

[@averagesplatoonperson]

@@TheMOVIEMANIAC13 your probably thinking of mr. meaty

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

@@averagesplatoonperson thank you ☺️😂

[@victoriagreer7609]

I recall a theroy that Sheen is a clone and thats why Jimmy left the messages and why no one has come to rescue him. Also I can't wait for Dinosaur Train I love that show.

[@freyamaranda4014]

When I watch these I think of all the weird 3d shows I watch as a child. ‘League of super evil’ from Cartoon Network is one of them.

[@TheResidence.mp4]

Man, that show is crazy old. If I remember correctly, there was a little red guy that was angry all the time and shouted a lot? As a kid I just saw him as discount Invader Zim lmao

[@freyamaranda4014]

@@TheResidence.mp4 yes and they had this side character called Dr. Frogg with two g’s I think

[@okjeffy6581]

@khaje9568 I think Voltar is a reference to him.

[@discoverysmith1111]

I'm really excited for a Dinosaur Train review. That and Wild Kratts and Word Girl were my entire childhood basically since all I had was PBS (: I still watch them sometimes for the nostalgia

[@ermacmacro7136]

I feel like the idea was originally meant to be "Uum has two sides. Her normal face is her rational and critical thinking, and her other face is the embodiment of all of her Intrusive thoughts." So if Uum gave Sheen a Rafenhoffer (No clue if I spelled my right) it was probably initially meant to be the Intrusive thoughts that would do it. But the creators ended up giving up and giving Uum nothing BUT intrusive thoughts.

[@billybarnett9518]

@ermacmacro7136 Do you think it would've been better if Sheen liked Oom back and actually wanted her raffenhoffers?

[@ermacmacro7136]

@@billybarnett9518 I think it would have been better if Oom had a bad habit of giving into the face that is her intrusive thoughts (either through her upbringing and her dad being a numbskull, or Sheen just naturally brings those intrusive thoughts out of Oom by his sheer stupid). And the rational Oom felt bad for it afterwards. Or maybe Oom figures a different less....raffenhoffery way to show her affection towards Sheen. I just think the writing for Oom as a whole character is just flawed and felt like something was horrendously missing and got left on the cutting room floor.

[@billybarnett9518]

@@ermacmacro7136 I agree, but I also think it would've been funny if Sheen liked her back and wanted raffenhoffers, and everyone else would think he's weird and be disgusted by it. They'd all be like "Why? How?!", it could even confuse Dorkus.

[@ermacmacro7136]

@@billybarnett9518 that would have been pretty good

[@billybarnett9518]

@@ermacmacro7136 I think so too, and it would eliminate the no consent problem.

[@mburns29]

Love your videos! You should consider doing a video on The Penguins of Madagascar.

[@itsmefm]

Honestly thought Planet Sheen was a joke, I can't believe it was real lol

[@chewnotchw3]

Kid me really liked this show Also I really like the hair and makeup matching, it's very slay!!!!!

[@jerbear8884]

Imagine if you will, we do end up getting the Jimmy Neutron reboot. And the first episode two are just the gang going to reenact your vision of a finale. Thus giving this spinoff a bit of closure while also reintroducing Sheen to the cast On a semi related note I've seen theories that the whole setup in the first episode was intentional on Jimmy's part, and given what we know about Jimmy at this stage it would make total sense that has conducting an experiment of some kind. Why else would Jimmy overtly put notes telling Sheen of all people NOT to do something? An act that would most definitely draw Sheen's attention? There's other theories floating around like this Sheen is actually a clone and this was the nicest way to get rid of the clone since they found the clone very obnoxious or something else entirely. At the end of the day this show is weird

[@ogome2927]

the clone theory or the dream theory are the only two that makes sense to me tbh

[@CarlWheezerGaming365]

Love your videos, i used to love this show so much❤

[@AthenaPOfficial]

Thank you so so much!!! Wish it got a proper finale tbh

[@KBcantComprehend]

Had a nightmare bout this Princess Oom once.

[@tuntalia]

The Sheen lore was so deep, I'm inspired to press every button and get launched into space

[@amesstarline5482]

As for the between-series approach for Planet Sheen, I like that reading. Sheen thinks he's in Space Camp. He's even dressed like he's in Space Camp. Why he doesn't mention Ultra Lord? It's the earliest era of his hyperfixation. He only develops more interest in Ultra Lord a f t e r he got praised by the aliens, but projects it onto his favorite series to avoid suspicion.

[@aurahoneydew9607]

Proving that if anyone should have gotten a spin-off was Jimmy's Mom. She's always getting hypnotized 😵‍💫 so could have had these two 10 min segments that is a mix of Captain Underpants x Mr Bean. Would say Hugh but dialing him to eleven for prolonged periods of time would annoy eventually while with Mrs Neutron the hypno running gag would allow you to have her be wild and out there and based in some rationalities.

[@ogome2927]

for me it’s libby or nick, having a show similar to as told by ginger but in the jimmy neutron style too with the crazy adventures. maturity was more jimmy neutron’s thing and i feel a spin off staring ppl like hugh would’ve been too silly

[@aurahoneydew9607]

@@ogome2927 not really the stories and characters were better than your average show but "maturity" isn't the term one would use.

[@ogome2927]

@@aurahoneydew9607 i would say it was mature, yhhh not like mature in the same way adventure time is, but the characters do grow and change a lot in comparison to how they were like at the start of s1 to the end of s3. i feel like it could’ve worked starring libby or nick, but also inserting the crazy adventures of the old show too with jimmy and the gang

[@infernorider123]

Sheen looks like he hasnt slept since jimmy neutron ended.

[@littlegreensunflower3547]

I mean, if he's holding his pee and poop for long periods to not freak anyone out, who's to say he's been sleeping?

[@DistortedMemories555]

AuDHD Sheen headcanon people UNITE!! Dude needed his hyperfixation and he never got it. Sad.

[@BugsyFoga]

Certainly one of the most bizarre spinoffs out there.

[@madnessarcade7447]

Added to the charm

[@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293]

I see you everywhere

[@madnessarcade7447]

@@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293 me or him

[@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293]

@@madnessarcade7447 him

[@normanclatcher]

@@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293 "everywhere I go, I see his face."

[@NegativeZenn]

It always gave off a less gross Fanboy and ChumChum vibe

[@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap]

averaging sheen and jimmy's intelligences, you'd still end up with someone who'd make light yagami look stupid

[@TheArcWielder]

The way I shouted "Hell yeah, Athena!" when I opened up yt to watch something and saw this while making dinner

[@cartoonkelly7924]

The Carl meets Doppy is a scene I want.

[@beachballssideaccount]

Take it from someone who was heavily invested in LazyTown meme culture in 2017, Sportacus is not *the* main protagonist, he's just the Responsible Adult™ in town who acts as a dramatic foil to Robbie Rotten's shenanigans while encouraging little kids to eat vegetables under the fantasy that they'll be able to do backflips like him if they do. :)

[@jacobkinney1364]

Showed my roommate the jimmy neutron lore video yesterday. He loves your stuff now

[@TheResidence.mp4]

He's gonna love the Martha Speaks and WordGirl videos, those are what caught me in the butt lover net

[@tyswan56]

I really enjoy these lore video's. It would be interesting to see you go into the lore of Cyberchase. Was one of my favorite pbs shows back in the day.

[@theknoxussy7191]

ATHENA PLEASE DO A LORE VIDEO ON YO GABBA GABBA IM BEGGING😫 (me commenting this knowing all of the lore already but ppl need to know about that show)

[@elitettelbach4247]

I never actually watched this show so thank you for giving me all the exposure I need to it. Love the idea that this took place between the Jimmy Neutron movie and the Jimmy Neutron series.

[@musicaloctopus5665]

“Sofia the First” episode when? A long in-depth analysis would slap.

[@user-zs9ux1ru8u]

This has to be a clone for how out of character Sheen was. It has to be after he doesn't seem concerned to leave to find his friends, father, and Libby...his previous love interest that would want to be a thing if they started off slow. He comes off as being more immature and yet also not as unhinged when it came to his new love interest, and somehow remembers that he has a mom in that one flashback. Imagine that all this time we were following a story of a clone that has no idea he was a clone and the real deal was going about his own life while the other has lingering memories and false memories of the original show. It can really get to you, no?

[@ogudemichael]

That Jimmy Neutron and the gang saving Sheen idea sounds freaking awesome.

[@sleepyreapie]

There are so many shows you could do lore videos on but honestly the educational/preschool-age shows are so entertaining to me! Something about the innocence and reading too far into something that is meant to be wholesome, or to teach math or reading is right up my alley. Kinda like the more fun version of kids show creepypasta. Would love doc mcstuffins (if disney will let you) and honestly any pbs kids works for me. Maybe also look at qubo shows or, if you’re really curious get into Canadian cartoons like my favorites, Mona the Vampire and Ruby Gloom (joys to my bby goth self) So yeah in conclusion, lore recommendations: -Doc Mcstuffins -Pbs Kids shows -Qubo shows -Canadian cartoons -Ruby Gloom -Mona the Vampire Love your videos and your vibes, sorry about the long rambley comment lol 🖤🖤

[@okjeffy6581]

RUBY GLOOM!! Yes!!

[@Type_null14]

"Paul's uncool cousin, if you will" 😂 🙈

[@2sinfulsansgamingactor622]

Also I cannot believe That there are only 26 episodes of planet sheen i remember it being like a 100 at least or at least it felt like it

[@gweniverebrown699]

I think a good lore video to do is Miraculous, it’s half bad romance and half kids show. It’s not over yet but with the 4 seasons already out it would make a good lore video

[@bulbakingdoot3514]

Please do videos on Pepper Ann and Ruby Gloom

[@loganthehennemann1]

I could barely get through one episode. How you managed to get through 26 without wanting to pull your hair out is beyond me but this is a good video so I applaud you

[@lorcan_2024]

Fun Fact: There was going to be a Made for TV Movie that was gonna concluded Planet Sheen, where Jimmy Goes to save him off of the Planet.

[@batsnghostz]

6:51 if carl went with him and there was a scene where he wasn’t allergic to the planet at all and they had a heartfelt discussion about it, it might make sense for sheen to want to stay

[@rockmega1209]

The only thing I remember from this show is the gag where they're having a party and the emperor walks up to Sheen. He says, "Thank you for showing us chips and dip, until now, we've been eating dips and chip!" and he holds up this massive ball of guacamole the size of his entire body balancing on a single tortilla chip. Good times.

[@evanlehner2116]

Video essays about weird nostalgia stuff while wearing fun makeup is my fave niche I’ve found on KZbin

[@mk-aka-morgan8386]

AHHHH IM SO EXCITED FOR THE DINOSAUR TRAIN VIDEO OMG

[@nessmarsh]

its so surreal seeing someone FINALLY talked about this show it was so weird and i remember it making me mad because i love jimmy neutron

[@deannatedeschi805]

The whole "we don't really make shows following an adult main character" thing is funny because Dag and Norb in The Angry Bevers were both 18 when the series started and 24 when it ended. Did they forget the series existed?

[@ChrysanthosC.]

13:30 Tronald Dump 😭😭💀

[@catpoke9557]

I am so excited for the Dinosaur Train lore video, mainly because of one scene where a few dinosaurs are shown eating dinosaur meat, implying that murder is sometimes considered okay in that world