Planetary Intelligence: Humanities Future in the Age of AI Symposium with Joscha Bach

The Beyond Center cosponsored by the Interplanetary Initiative presents the 2018 Planetary Intelligence: Humanities Future in the Age of AI Symposium.

[@peterp-a-n4743]

I can't get over how brilliant this was.

[@PecPur]

Every time I watch a video with Joscha Bach in it I feel like I'm discovering his brilliance for the first time.

[@drmedwuast]

kinda like an intellectual version of LSD

[@avi7278]

I think he is likely very intelligent but he didn't impress me. Lots of word salads.

[@catbunny8713]

@@avi7278 you’re just not used to eating salad

[@origamianywhere7764]

This is one of the best videos on youtube and it only has 2k views.

[@karolyhorvath7624]

Well, he has a couple dozen of other videos with various titles, but he basically gives the same lecture every time. Add them up.

[@oraliafisher1208]

Lucas Crouch people are too busy looking and posting in FakeBook

[@ARCANEmateCLAN]

@@dixztube Simple, most of the population doesn't understand a word of this talk. Joscha has an IQ of probably 150, the people he's talking about are likely in the 160-170 region. The average IQ in the US is 100.

[@hiadrianbankhead]

There’s an inverse relationship between the quality of the video and it’s popularity. In terms of explaining how the world works, the very best videos on KZbin will guaranteed have less than 50 views - and most of those will be bots. Most people are not interested and don’t know the correct terms to search for real information that is not meant for popular consumption.

[@nicholasbrunning]

@@dixztube I can answer that but it's sad because I love ball. We are all trying to survive due to the reality of inequality. The organism tries to survive above most things and it appears that means if it's incentives to survive are correlated to mingle with individuals with mental acuity that defines an individual that on average might not look deeper, then everyone will fall to the average to fit in. Also we can't all have a society of conceptual individuals it would be dysfunctional we need a society of mixed individuals however.... I agree everyone should benefit out of this and more people should flock to this... but they won't, because they aren't geared to act under those selective pressures to look for these answers. The system needs a jolt. Everyone can build a better society, shame entropy suggests we need to knock alot of it down first hahaha

[@hiadrianbankhead]

His answer to what happens when the wave function collapses melted my brain.

[@xsuploader]

yh this guy is on a level of his own.

[@jeffxanders3990]

Wave function is misnomer. See Ken Wheeler on magnetism and Lori Gardi (Fractal Woman) on Ken Wheeler's magnetism.

[@jtcrook32]

Yep, that fucking blew my mind. I thought he was going on an unrelated tangent at first then he brought it around and perfectly encapsulated it. Wow. He did it so quickly too.

[@steghuman9063]

Half the time it's expanding , half the time it's collapsing, think of a sphere that expands to a certain size then collapses to the point it expanded from > over and over. When the frequency is fast enough you only percieve the sphere at the fully expanded size you don't see it collapsing. Now apply this to the physical universe the expansion cycle is heat and energy , the collapse cycle is gravity. We perceive the expanded state, we feel the collapsing half cycle as gravity, magnetic field and inertia. What if the smallest spheres are collapsing through the inside of the universe and expanding away from the inside all over the universe @ a rate that is essentially the immediate. So all other vibrational expansion and collapse >energy vibrations and frequencies can only be slower and larger and cannot collapse through the inside as this is already taking place at the smallest scale, all others slower and larger and in resonance to the universal smallest vibrational frequency. The inside is omnipresent , the unchanging immediate (it is always now). The outsides are constantly changing they cannot be still like the inside.

[@kirktown2046]

Seriously, I've never seen such an expert and elegant answer to that question. The asker had this attitude like it was a gotcha question that he didn't expect him to be able to answer yet he gave the most thought out perspective on it that I've ever heard.

[@Mrhollowdadon]

Joscha, you are a light in a dark world. Thank you.

[@Telencephelon]

This is the primer for any human life. Explains how to invest, how to function as a societal being and how to set goals

[@salzen6283]

Brother Joshua you out done yourself this talk is epic I can't believe you had half a dozen people in the audience it just doesn't make any sense how such a resourceful mind isn't the crown jewel of academia! I am waiting for the book where you synthesize more of your fabulous approaches to reality thank you Joshua you are one of the smartest people I've ever heard:)

[@vsb3000]

His answer to the wave function question was insane. So well thought out and clearly explained off the cuff

[@tristanwegner]

Just 2/3 through. Very Lucid and mirrors cherished thoughts of mine. I guess if you are able to fully let the implications settle in, you realise that you represent the center of your computional universe from where it is possible to expand your consciousness through the matter arounded you in a more and more detailed manner, in the end be able to created arbitrary changes in the system boundary for computation. This of course means very deep interaction with other humans you encounter to a level where you trust each other as a skin cell thrusts with its life a germ cell. I would be very happy to link my mind with yours to create the best possible thought, or den schönst möglichen Gedanken: das Perfekte Universum

[@nicholasbrunning]

I have watched 15+ Bach talks and for some reason, whatever that may be, his hate for Penrose's ideas, his ability to see long game problems the majority can't and that fuels him with a little frustrating energy, whatever, it made him more brilliant and clear. Claiming Bach to be my spirit animal.

[@Telencephelon]

He's just the most vocal. There are millions of researchers who put this into text, graphs, textbooks and publications. you just don't see them on youtube. most people that we see are generally outside of actual research. They get added to a publication but are basically getting lazy and resting on their laurels. It's similar for Joscha Bach, but he has a very interesting truth-seeking objective function and terminology. The terminology came about because he has lectured and held talks forever

[@seba_dud]

@@Telencephelon I'm interested, can you give some examples?

[@SB324]

“Life is disgusting” preach it Joscha, we can do better!

[@JoshuaPolier]

Best lecture I’ve heard in a long time. Fantastic.

[@isaacsaffran8714]

Mind bending stuff, always looking for more Joscha Bach content.

[@gridcoregilry666]

Thx for uploading this! Very well condensed version of all of his work until 2018. Just imagine going to some talk with an interesting name by someone you don't know with the name "Joscha Bach" and being TOTALLY BLASTED away by his thoughts. That's how I would be like in the audience. Of course nearly no one had a question, as they are still processing the first 10% of his talk.

[@TuckerHolt]

Joscha Bach has changed my perspective on more things than any other individual

[@Telencephelon]

Yes. But keep in mind that this comes also from textbooks and publications. Hardly anything here is original as he himself put it time and time again. He is just one of the few with a very precise terminology (which he trained) who can popularize science without getting "lazy" or giving in to other goals. Anyways this video is like a primer to all of humanity in one hour. Also because of the 2 audience question. One being the nature of true reality and the other about complexity. My mind is blown

[@deveyous6614]

Bach doesn't take IQ tests, IQ tests take Bach

[@ARCANEmateCLAN]

He is very clever, but even he concedes that the people he looks up to like Wolfram are in a whole different league. All of them are geniuses to me.

[@jeffxanders3990]

IQ counts for little compared to the degree and direction to which we think --- me

[@jtcrook32]

Funnily enough, he has said that a true turing test is when the A.I. performs a turing test on us. Lol

[@EannaButler]

Wow what a superb start! Dropping Le Petit Prince, same as how the book starts too, to set the context.. Brilliant! 👍

[@matbmp8996]

Someone knows reasons for the sentence "Convergence forces you away from truth" ?

[@spianny]

“See, you are an optimist” 🤣🤣

[@donniedavis6163]

Momma always said...life is like the multi-verse. Ya never know what ya gonna get.

[@Stadtpark90]

48:02

[@PatrickBuzoDrums]

post-mammalian evolution freakin awsome

[@marneninagavenkat7149]

multi generational with examples of cats and dogs means in generations of dogs or researchers?

[@jeffxanders3990]

Answers to many questions. Great stuff. Nothing you can do to infinitely many steps? Of course there is. Its called life... unless it's not infinite and we're not actually immortal 😊 Game of life from game of life - life from the aether (the magnelectric). Empty space? No. Space, time and gravity are emerging from the magnelectric (aether). Electron and nucleus of an atom is the same magnelectric existence - the toroidal and hyperboloid of the magnelectric in conjugate flow. Same as galaxy, universe or zero point aether. It's all one existence flowing from inner to outer and back. At the atomic level this happens at the speed of light (rate of induction) which is why this realm appears to be solid (you are not your body). A dream has to be a matrix of our own making and a holographic sim as well. Complexity increases because of the self propagating nature of the (magnelectric) aether. This is evolution as future returns to past to recreate itself in infinite recreative (recreation) creation... or regressive creation as the case may be. Balance is key to all things, including us. In truth, all IS us, as all is one being in infinite creative flow. To eat and be eaten... pretty much sums it up 😊 Everyone wins cuz we all participate. Were doing the work of co-creating, after which our place is chosen according to us. This does not imply anything in particular cuz we really don't know anything in particular.

[@johnreagan3623]

The blind man describing the elephant was subtle and powerful

[@steghuman9063]

Wave function collapse. Half the time it's expanding, half the time it's collapsing, think of a sphere that expands to a certain size then collapses to the point it expanded from > over and over. When the frequency is fast enough you only perceive the sphere at the fully expanded size you don't see it collapsing. Now apply this to the physical universe the expansion cycle is heat and energy, the collapse cycle is gravity. We perceive the expanded state, we feel the collapsing half-cycle as gravity, magnetic field, and inertia. What if the smallest spheres are collapsing through the inside of the universe and expanding away from the inside all over the universe @ a rate that is essentially immediate. So all other vibrational expansion and collapse >energy vibrations and frequencies can only be slower and larger and cannot collapse through the inside as this is already taking place at the smallest scale, all others slower and larger and in resonance to the universal smallest vibrational frequency. The inside is omnipresent, the unchanging immediate (it is always now). The outsides are constantly changing they cannot be still as the inside.

[@arvindchaudhary1837]

Wow!

[@primetimedurkheim2717]

"If you make something clean, you make something else dirty." Yosha speaks common sense brilliantly.

[@stevenboismier4678]

This planet is experiencing a conscience shift and my brother it no longer is a dark planet. I AM and I love you

[@Gattomorto12]

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[@robertsoloe6001]

I wonder how the game of life would look like with triangles instead of a square or a circle

[@robertsoloe6001]

As well as octagons and hexagons

[@kk-gh4qk]

55.07 technically humans are yeast 😂

[@user-cn4qb7nr2m]

The fact that this brilliant lecture attracts the kind of people who can't shut up about IQ is so incredibly sad.

[@skierpage]

Typo: Future of humanity -> Humanity's future, the singular possessive. It's not Humanities, plural. Joscha Bach added the apostrophe to the plural form which is an understandable mistake for a non-native speaker. This video channel dropped it altogether, doubling the error.

[@advocate1563]

I decided it could work both ways (apostrophes to one side). Bach argues that philosophy is now a redundant field of study for example. Maybe humanity and the humanities.

[@drmedwuast]

right. not sure if the first screen came from Joscha though

[@adt3030]

i am lost

[@seba_dud]

🤣i feel you

[@mihaipp1]

The audience is limited 😮

[@mattizzle81]

This talk may be way over my head, but I can't help but think ok, from where does this translate into writing some actual lines of code that will translate to something useful in AI. I appreciate the value of this but can't help but think sometimes these researchers are a bit too abstract and not practical enough.

[@karolyhorvath7624]

Oh, come on! pi doesn't have a last digit.

[@drmedwuast]

that's what he's saying

[@DavidKolbSantosh]

But the problem is mathematics is elitist...only mathematicians understand that language.

[@LindsleyDbrt]

But it is open source for anyone that desires to learn it.

[@YTGhostCensorshipCanSuckMe]

This guy did voice overs for Bruno on Austrian G@y TV