Planetside 2's Lead Designer QUITS

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[@ZealousVidya]

Wrel has given 'direction' on the next 6 months of planetside 2's internal roadmap because there's potentially nobody 'steering the ship'. So things won't change overnight, we may not get to see the new game designers input until 2024. Subscribe for more

[@djraythefurry0420]

I really hope the PlanetSide PS4 part actually gets fixed a little bit with the new dev lel 😂 I don't have enough money to buy a gaming PC that can handle PS2 😂

[@whowhowhowhowhowho8139]

The lead designer might not even listening

[@whowhowhowhowhowho8139]

But if he did listen, he should remove the whole ability to watch who killed you how he did... So people stop the ridiculous vendetta... And instead focus on the actual game... And revive grenades should be slow to revive and the med gun revive should also be slower... Is ridiculous that revive is faster than killing.

[@whowhowhowhowhowho8139]

And the fact you actually don't think yourself qualified to tell devs how to fix a game, it does not mean game designers like me cant.

[@heavyhittersgaming3759]

lol, Wrel was a great content creator on youtube. That said he was a shit dev and I am so happy he is finally gone. Now I hope his replacement can reverse some of this trash Wrel help to put in the game.

[@Timoruz]

I think one way the game could improve is to reward support roles more (not support classes). What I mean by this is to reward players more for things like... Defending a sunderer, Cutting off a lattice, Starting a new fight, Bonus XP if an ESF kills an ATG ESF, Fighting when underpopped in a base.

[@VeeStripe]

... making the assist count as 0.5 kill? I swear, that's one of the things that I'd LOVE to see.

[@narcolepticmarshmallow9012]

@@VeeStripe God please, at least an assist counts as kill system like bf4 had for assists over 75% (I think) of damage dealt. Deployed ams kills directive might be the worst thing in the world because of both kill stealing and if the sunderer undeploys just before it dies it doesn't count

[@josephvillines9766]

​@@VeeStripe now thays stupid either you get the kill or you didn't ..lol

[@Hdbdbdby]

​​@@VeeStripewho cares about kills, I mean this is basically the antithesis to the comment...

[@efraim3364]

whether or not you liked Wrel you cant deny he had a passion for this game and he seemed like a genuinely nice guy so i wish him the best in his future endeavors

[@MJ0101_]

Vanu player spotted

[@efraim3364]

@@MJ0101_ fake news, im TR main

[@ItsMoorbinTime]

@@efraim3364 Gigachad spotted

[@whiteglovestudio]

Passion only gets you so far in game design, its like fire... you need all 3 components or you burn out. You need passion, you need aptitude, and you need humility/empathy/introspection enough to incorporate feedback from the larger picture and be able to actually remove self bias when making decisions.

[@see_horse]

This game needs something like they have in Eve, a 'council' of players (popular voted/revolving/term limited) who are specifically there to represent the players voices, and opinions in interactions with dev-team. This game is literally only still about because of die hard support, so time for DBG etc to acknowledge it and empower player voices, rather than running rough shod over them.

[@ZealousVidya]

Yeah that would work well

[@rtorresfernandez]

I wish Wrel and the new lead dev the best in their new challenge. Please nerf the flail.

[@mitoma31]

Would anyone still use it then? I often use it to farm on oshur, but if nerfed I wouldn't see a reason to ever use it.

[@Roulden]

Man, I'd love for the PS1 flail to return.

[@WinchesterLock]

Why nerf the flail? They are rarely used these days.

[@Jormungrandrserpent]

Flaail needs usability buffs and maybe damage nerfs, and thats about it. Aka manual fire mode with 2 instead of 4 shots per volley.

[@LexYeen]

​@@Rouldenjust gave me flashbacks.

[@theDemolisher13]

I am silently watching from the outside but sadly my hopes won't rise till I see actual positive change.

[@Shiggy_]

Everyone’s kinda singing wrels praise rn, but I want to remind everyone he was a real hit or miss: PS Arena Koltyr Unstable warpgates Heavy crossbow Flamethrower alt fire Boomer vision Bastion farm machine Pocket orbitals Shotgun secondaries Carapace Infinite oshur Fire to decloak (this is why there’s a huge uptick of people hating infiltrators, raised the skill floor too high) I liked some of the stuff wrel did, but he absolutely refused to acknowledge or fix mistakes. Carapace and boomer vision ruin ps2’s shooter experience and are arguably pay to win. The flamethrower should’ve been nerfed last week. Pocket orbitals should’ve been removed months ago. Etc etc

[@ZealousVidya]

You are 100% correct and I dislike all of those except Carapace(although with scavenger, it's certainly overpowered for pointholding specifically). Koltyr also was a good idea on paper, implemented poorly. The guys out now so I didn't wanna be too harsh and encourage a bunch of hate, which would have been fairly easy.

[@Shiggy_]

@@ZealousVidya I respect that, I think carapace is just accepted nowa days cause it’s been here so long. But as a medic main, I hate that the carapace/combat surgeon build is so powerful. I’d like to be able to run other builds, but it just outclasses everything. But I guess that’s just a niche problem I have.

[@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda]

hopefully the devs can divert some fun away from the sweatvets and help out the casual/new players for a change so the playerbase can grow again.

[@packie7053]

That's a huge part of what the devs have done since the game came out to diminish the so-called vets advantage in order to bring more new players. This, while early updates did in fact increase the populations over prior weeks, never retained new players and vets alike. Unfortunately, you can only change so many times before the game isn't the game you enjoyed playing. I would suggest that they stop trying to get new players until they fix a lot of the issues with flow ( lattice ex.)and spawns ( never enough with pop dump and too easily destroyed). Fix core issues then recruit

[@barrosamuec3883]

My prayers have been answered 🙏

[@Oogobuk]

use to watch Wrel's old videos, I never thought he was all that.... fame skill

[@Draco51]

wrel let console planetside effectively die and didnt give us a single update since the release of oshur....for those who cant math thats over a year and a half....were something like 30+ updates behind if you count all the small adjustment updates....also we have been stuck playing only oshur for the last 3 days every faction has reached 100% control of the continent atleast once and we still havent had an alert start....and since the shattered warpgate update esamir has been locked meaning we havent plaid it in years

[@aidennaerion4576]

Its a shame that the console was left out, because i still recommend the game but most people i know are not pc gamers. Ive seen the ps4 version a while back and it was insane how far back it was in terms of updates and popularity

[@sindari5102]

I have to agree PS4 PlanetSide needs a major update I am getting tired of fighting on osher for the past 3 days

[@Einxeld]

​@@sindari5102but do console players give devs money? (Serious question)

[@sindari5102]

@@Einxeld people are still doing transactions vehicle Cosmetics character cosmetics very expensive bundles subscription service and starter packs depending on the faction

[@rflynn1974]

This is all ominous

[@jarvis8bit]

Let´s hope the new lead designer will include the community in a better way.. Like monthly vote system, for most important fixes / add´ons to the game in the future...

[@contentconsumer3743]

in the future i’d love to see them lean more into the RTS aspect of the game, maybe work in a system to give squad leaders/ commanders more precise control and communication

[@0Letten0]

Maybe vehicles will come back to Planetside now.

[@lParoXismel]

i want a planetside 2 starwars collab!!! i know there's battlefront but its not BIGG like PS2 lol

[@TheBloodyPoint]

I've been saying this for years. A Star Wars IP re-skin of PlanteSide to with zero other changes would print money.

[@Lockdown22]

i searched "wrel leaves planetside" and 10 of your videos popped up with his name in it lmao

[@ZealousVidya]

Hehe

[@AstrusEminus]

I hope the vehicle gameplay gets rebalanced. Have auraxed all MBTs and the Vanguard is basically idiot proof, the Prowler is alright and the Magrider is an absolute travesty.

[@necroLAN]

Hopefully we can get things like the option for crossplay and cross progression now , i see no point of not having them , other games that are mainly aim focused have already done so , and planetside is a perfect candidate

[@exonsun]

It is not easy to find large, fun, even infantry fights now. It is often just zerging or getting zergged. For the hard to come by fair fights, alert often breaks them (or OS). Then the fights themselves, often it is just a stalemate around choke points with no back and forth. Fix the fundamentals to make it fun again!

[@ianhnizdo4787]

I'd say the new dev's need to buff a lot of crummy weapons. I'd love to see the cme, bull, charger and a bunch of other guns be competitively viable.

[@disky01]

I dont play the game regularly but I've been playing Planetside since the beta of the original back in 2003. I was active during the PS2 beta and I remember Wrel from his time as a PS2 content creator. It just feels like the end of an era for me, and while I'm definitely more casual these days I do think they've made a lot of progress in the game during his tenure. Consider the huge issues within the company and the Planetside team that have been beyond Wrel's control. Obviously the game is not perfect but I respect Wrel, I wish him the best and I hope he doesn't get bear too much blame for the state of the game. I hope he moves into something that works even better for him and I hope Planetside benefits from the new team structure.

[@H0Z1809]

I mean, true content creator.*

[@krutchen768]

How to fix planetside - Make hit registration drop damage from people who just had their ping spike up to 300+ ms Interpolate between client-server positions for hitreg, doing a raycast from point a-b, c-d, if margin of error is over 40% reject it. That'll fix high pop areas being a slog where you get killed through walls by some asshole that takes 50+ rounds to put down.

[@LethitaNemedian]

As long as support roles get acknowledged on base cap scoreboards again (even at a smaller role), I'd be happy with the change in dev roles

[@thomasquwack9503]

Support doesn’t get recognized? That’s messed up

[@magorostravsky5732]

certen is only one thing. It WILL be different.

[@artinist]

Great news

[@RumpleFoldSkin]

dang dude....i think that sucks! i like wrel and what he has done for ps2...wow..oof...maybe though..we dont know whats really going on as wrel will certainly bve needed for something ..in the future....with a 3 at the end of it.

[@OhKaiizer]

no

[@ginjjiigok364]

Console side is dying, we need an advertisement in the psn store

[@veiledmelancholia]

Now whether the new lead designer is gonna be better or worse, we'll see...

[@whiteglovestudio]

One does have to consider they hired him on and kept him for so long despite losing so many paying customers to bad decisions overall, do they really have the perspective to not make the same mistake again? If he was asked to resign, there's hope. If he just straight up quit (I doubt that was the case) then you can expect another wrel.

[@TurtleFootMining]

The game is going to get better watch. The dude was needing to be placed for years 😅

[@meatballsnacker-sitregald6919]

They said that when Higby and Smedley went away, and boy that didn't work out. But without Wrel and these men Planetside wouldn't have lived until now, so credit where it's due.

[@shadowdove3250]

@@meatballsnacker-sitregald6919 What a load of crap. He was the reason the game didn't fix itself. Glad the dunce is gone.

[@rflynn1974]

I hate how Wrel took autonomy away from the solo player. I still can't purchase shit on my own

[@Flubbred]

What do you mean exactly?

[@rflynn1974]

@@Flubbred he made some purchases only clan/guild mates can purchase

[@Flubbred]

@@rflynn1974 Ah those things

[@Einxeld]

Can you explain more? I am a solo player and I have everything I need in the game, including Anvils.

[@rflynn1974]

@@Einxeld there are some certain vehicles and things in game your outfit can only get

[@pickashoe7870]

Zealous, you're the new lead designer now. good luck.

[@ZealousVidya]

lmao

[@FlankerJackChannel]

Unfortunately I think this game is a victim of sunk/loss fallacy.

[@Vendetta_lolo]

Air farming sad you falled so deep UwU

[@sindari5102]

Can they finally give PlayStation PlanetSide an update to be up to date with PC

[@Leogamer-9910]

let's see what happens :/

[@HoneyBadger1779]

We need Planetside 3. Built fresh.

[@wowomah6194]

It seems to me that that ship has long since set sail. As far as I know, almost ALL the original Planetside designers are not with the company anymore.

[@HoneyBadger1779]

@@wowomah6194 It'll probably have to be done by another company. I'd much prefer some homespun indie company, small studio that may be reaches out to the original designers, not one of these mega companies that has absolutely no clue how to make a functional video game.

[@whiteglovestudio]

Gonna take about 10 people, 3 years, and ~$2 million USD. $5 from 400,000 people is what it would take.

[@Xriswest]

Wish Wrel the best, but it was way past time for a change. His vision simply was not in tune with the community needs.

[@TyvNeedsHelp]

Curious if the new lead dev will nerf c-4 harrasser...Driving by tanks and tossing c-4 out the back is insanely funny and way too easy to get into but it'll be interesting at least.

[@PatrixBest]

Hasnt the harasser back seat been removed?

[@FlankerJackChannel]

Harassers and indestructible liberators have ruined the game since 2015. Why would they change that?

[@FRIXXION248]

@@PatrixBest just the rumble seat repair. You cant use your rep-tool from the back anymore.

[@see_horse]

No loss.

[@bjurling78]

I would pray for someone being sane enough to remove cloak. It´s the most unfun mechanic ever to touch gaming.

[@bubbles5171]

Exactly, I’ve been saying this for so long. Not only is it extremely annoying to play against, we also get really no counters to it because the dark light sucks and tells everyone within 2 miles exactly where you are the moment you turn it on. Also why do infil get the strongest guns in the game. There is zero reason for the class that can go invis to have one tap guns. On another note all scout rifles on all factions need a massive nerf ESPECIALLY the obelisk that is the most broken gun I have ever seen. Scout rifles have been my biggest gripe with planetside for a while now and genuinely make me not want to play

[@dalentces2492]

I always thought the problem with Wrel wasn't a specific change, but the directions he took. Oshur was overall a failure. Balance issues that should have been addressed way back were made only recently, and it's a droplet in a bathtub of problems. He set out to redesign systems in response to issues but didn't bother with simpler solutions like tweaking numbers before the redesign has made it to Live. Imagine how many more players PlanetSide could have retained if they bothered with a band-aid solution before it was finally rolled into emergency room. As I've already said under one of your videos, his changes were basically CV stat padding. Now he's leaving, further confirming my suspicions. The reason he didn't bother with simpler solutions to problems was likely because it's not something he could claim as HIS fix, his accomplishment, proprietary solution to a problem. That said I don't see everything he's done as bad. Arsenal update was a mixed bag of good, bad and disappointment. Bastion on the other hand was a great addition, probably one of the best in years; literally gave purpose to outfits gameplay wise. Changes to MAXes were fairly needed, some top performing weapons deserved tweaking (but others were rather oddly left untouched). Overall it wasn't an awful track record, even if it wasn't good either.

[@tserv2657]

its funny you think the game will get a new lead. its over. they'll let it go until there's even less players and then shut it down.

[@Lockdown22]

this game died with wrels leaving, its not gonna work out they are just gonna do hotfixes and no more new content by end of the year, i been calling this since early last year, people put their opinions saying it as its a generalization of what everyone thinks of the game, mainly the redditors are the one who have been ruining the game with their bad suggestions and the devs listening because thats the only feedback they see

[@TuaSid]

YES FINALY. Wrel video were nice, but all vehicule nerf are his fault and the reason i stoped PS2. I hope dev reverse all the nerf and make the game fun like it use to be.

[@TheHuffur]

I think Wrel has been a mostly positive thing for PS2 even though as said in the video his way of balancing/changing things were more like ALL OR NOTHING and then be done with it until next time it comes up on the board years to a decade later even if there are plenty of smaller, quick changes that would make things better. I also had a tiny little hope that now that he was finally looking at some of the ancient problems like MAXes being insanely powerful that we could get a similar change for aircraft. Its been dominating the game since launch and it would not at all surprise me if a fairly big chunk of people leaving the game is due to being farmed by aircraft while having next to no valid way to fight back against them because that is one of the worst feelings you can get in a game. "I lose because the other guy is literally untouchable by me and for some reason he is packing enough damage to be comparable to a Lightning AP, with guided munitions... why am I not using a flying tank instead as well???" TL;DR I was hoping Wrel would finally gift us workable, potent G2A weapons for vehicles since he was poking on stuff like the MAX. A Skyguard should shred aircraft since its almost a free kill for any enemy on the ground but atm its also almost a free kill for any Valkyrie or Liberator, all they need is a few seconds to get close without the Skyguard seeing them and they can facetank the Skyguard to victory. Its silly that a Skyguard requires like a 6 second head start to win against targets its designed to be a 'counter' to.

[@nalle1552]

just remove oshur already

[@nani4416]

They should hire Zealous to be the lead designer, bc he listens ps2 players more than devs them selfs 💀

[@carlosabeleira5974]

First?

[@CAfakmykak]

What are you, like 10 years old? "OH BOY IM THE FIRST ONE TO COMMENT HAHAHA"

[@juusojuuso9214]

@@CAfakmykak let him have it :( I wanted it, but he has it nao