Plant Prices are RISING Again?

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[@prettyingreen]

@@daveshouse8105 Damn this really makes me happy! That was exactly the idea!!! Really appreciate the support!!!!

[@deltatango6793]

So many KZbinrs I’ve followed for a while are putting out lazy content that doesn’t align with why I started to follow them. THANK YOU for being so reliable with quality content anytime I see your videos pop up!

[@fosterfoster9913]

I agree 100%. The worst videos are the ones where they don’t say anything while they’re showing off their plants.

[@Planted386]

Hello! I’m a fellow KZbinr and I am wondering what type of content you are looking for? Personally, I enjoy the chatty videos talking about the plants. Show and tell if you will. I feel like I am seeing a lot of “plant chores” these really long videos with mostly music attached. These I’m not really into and I’m wondering if you feel the same? I saw your comment and it made me think. I hope you don’t mind me asking. I’m really just looking to see what people want to see vs what’s being shown. Hope that makes sense. Happy growing!

[@Lavren.27]

​@@Planted386 I'm not the OP, but I personally enjoy hot takes about plants/growing them, unpopular opinions, predictions about trends, plant tours, wishlist videos. I also like watching styling plants as a part of interior design 😊

[@MisadventureMisty]

⁠​⁠@@Lavren.27I agree with what you said especially plant styling. I will add, I think one thing missing in the plant YT space is well thought out, educated videos. Such as Aloha Plants and this channel do. I like topics backed up scientific papers, studies, etc. rather than the same “tips” that get regurgitated around the internet.

[@FullyRooted_PlantBoutique]

Agree 100000 percent!

[@lisawagner6076]

Can I just say, as a buyer, I would love to have the Monstera Devil, but I will wait till more sane prices come to pass. I just bought my Thai only 2-3 months ago and I got it for $25. I am also willing to get a small one and grow them out myself. I paid a lot for my Albo but those days are over for me. I can no longer afford to pay, nor do I want to pay those high prices anymore. I am patient. I can wait til the price comes down. Just my 2 cents, for anyone interested in one buyers point of view.

[@wandashaw3551]

Great breakdown of Sean's video. I watched it and couldn't believe some of the prices. Love your channel ❤.

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you Wanda! Ya they had some insane pricing out there!!

[@maribelmedina8720]

Wow this Asian prices 😱!! I always watch your videos to be updated on new plants and prices, I also bought my fertilizer on Amazon and I really liked it. Gracias 😊

[@fosterfoster9913]

Man I love your videos. You actually show value which is why I come to KZbin to watch plant videos.

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you so much! This makes my day 😊

[@deltatango6793]

They’re absolutely bidding each other up! These prices make no sense at this time!

[@jyvaineorchids2255]

I bet they're all good friends that tell eachothers what to bid on so they all can sell the highest price possible and gain lot of money that way by raising the prices as high as possible for the customers, it's also probable that after the bidding they give back the plants and money to eachothers 😂

[@ohrats731]

It’ll be fun when the variegated raven zz is more available/affordable! Very cool color expression, especially with the difference from fresh to hardened off. I recently got a green variegated zz prop with two small rhizomes for $30 including shipping. Can’t wait for it to grow in a year or two 🤣

[@rsrobsanz]

Love your content love how you always state the truth with facts. Just love your videos I

[@valerieclark5695]

I love watching these videos about the plant business, the business side of rare plants.. Although it's a cliche by now, tulipomania was about tulips, actuall tulip bulbs that led to a famous bubble market. It turned out that their "breaks" were caused by viruses, as I'm sure you know. Can those White Devil Monsteras even grow reliably in a greenhouse? They are fascinating but they don't look very stable, with the thin thin ribcage leaves with so little chlorophyll. I hope the rare plant business doesn't speculate itself to death.

[@shanemaloy]

Another amazing video! Thanks for all you do for the plant community!! Still got to get you on the Every Plant Story podcast!

[@prettyingreen]

Thanks Shane!!! You know I’m down! Hit me up whenever!!!

[@morningstar8187]

Bruh, I feel bad about paying 30€ for a plant.

[@seth7745]

I feel bad that eBay takes half the profit. If I sell a plant for $20 including shipping, I'm lucky to get $4 out of it. It's not worth it.

[@christopherchong1198]

Hi there, I recently also did a video on the Bangkok international plant exhibition. I did a price analysis and found that the prices have gone up. BUT! The planters market which is happening in Singapore right now is showing prices that are MUCH cheaper. This is really surprising! The same sellers in Thailand came to Singapore and the prices were significantly cheaper. E.g. a variegated gloriosum medium size selling for SGD$800 is SGD$490 now.

[@kermitlovescats6921]

Yeaa I was at there too very worth it

[@KIPUKA77]

Super review from Sean's spectacular show review. You answered the very questions I had!

[@thelourensfamily8048]

I'm in Cape Town, South Africa and there's a company out here that imports from Asia and sells. When I spoke to the owner, she said a lot of the prices were influx because other Asian countries, mostly China, were buying up a lot of the stock which was pushing up the prices.... We don't always have the same stock out here. Sometimes we do, depending on the plant

[@prettyingreen]

Very interesting insight!! I think they're preparing to be a dominant player in Rare Aroids...as they do in most other markets

[@briantemple9004]

The most expensive plant I bought was the Thai con for $50, but that was just because I REALLY wanted it lol. I picked up a monstera standleyana for $20 also just because I wanted it, I couldn't justify some of these prices no matter the plant. Also, I make more money than I ever have right now. Don't live extravagant, drive used cars that are paid off and I feel like life was easier when I was making $15 an hour. It's crazy

[@opalcoastal-ld5kd]

Agree 100%

[@elizabethlacey7708]

Love leaf lux, my plants are growing like crazy!!!!❤❤❤ Have a great weekend!! See you in your next video!!

[@prettyingreen]

I love to hear this!!! 😭 Thank you for always supporting Elizabeth 🙌

[@KuyaCraig]

You’re the best! My fav!! Good content!

[@prettyingreen]

Thanks Craig!! I appreciate you being here

[@asmrtpop2676]

Most things like the first two I’d rather try my luck with cuttings in the summer here and try to get them to root. Rather than buy the entire plant.

[@Shearedfield]

It’s hard out here. I no longer can afford to buy rare plants. Putting plant buying off in general. Contemplating selling some more expensive plants.

[@prettyingreen]

I hear that. When it's plants or bills, it's an easy answer

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[@jamespang4160]

during big events like plant expo the prices are higher even double price for the displays than buying them in gardens or market like chatuchak.

[@ellysiaturnbull6795]

At some point Sean mentions that some plants are actually hard to get in Asia that are alot easier for Europe or north America to get. So he's mentioning the same point that you are, know your market. What they sometimes can grow we can't and vice versa (or buy and sell readily)

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I love you plant fertilizer!!!

[@prettyingreen]

Omg yes!!!! Thank you for the support 🙌

[@ameliamurphy8416]

Really interesting to hear your point of view on these plants. Thank you for sharing.

[@carolstuff]

Good vid Chris! I’d buy the Tetrasperma & BM Flame.

[@prettyingreen]

Agreed Carol!

[@lisasteele6445]

I think many plant collectors are starting to order directly from the source so the overseas market is selling plants for what they think we would pay for them here (I’m in the US). If they’re using sites that overcharge for their base line market value, the prices get super inflated. When their plants don’t sell because they’re overpriced, they will reduce prices.

[@fruitofpalm4668]

Quality content as usual, thanks! Any plans on bringing leaflux to amazon canada?

[@prettyingreen]

Thank you! I really want to. Need to figure out the regulations there on it! 😊

[@mrjaxfat]

Please do a documentary around the Monstera esquleto

[@schizmb4766]

I think plant people don't understand the difference between cool and pretty. Most people can't take care of a house plant anyway so stick to the basics when it comes to selling.

[@mylovecassie4ever]

Thankyou for the information.

[@Lucas-Greenhouse]

I am not really into Aroids but I am kinda fascinated by the way the marked works. I sell Cacti and succulents and we got prices so so much lower than these. Do you think the plant hobby will eventually move away from aroids over the course of a couple years? Because i don’t think that the breeders can just throw out the 1000th Alocasia or Philodendron hybrid and people will spend 4-5 figures on it before it gets too much for the community to handle Greetings 🌵

[@Planty-Mandy]

Importing is such a gamble. The margin better be really great to do it. Even if everything goes well, you can count on at least a month to rehab, root, and get new growth. And we all know how much prices can change in a month.

[@prettyingreen]

It’s so true. I’ve lost so much money doing it in the last year 😂

[@phungm7]

Economy is def tough. Side note. Did you see monster PMM started an online grow academy? $15/ month subscription.

[@prettyingreen]

Omgggg no way 😂

[@berrysuttlemyre]

Great video

[@jamiadayojaespinosa9163]

Those ladies who purchased the Devil Monsters are not all sellers. One of them isn't, that's for sure. The lady in the left is a seller. The one in the middle is a known collector in the Philippines, and the one in the right I think is a garden owner in Thailand.

[@marilynjay9117]

I think spending time creating new hybrids and stabilizing the genetics is going to be where people who are serious in the space make their money. Not talking about like a new pp hybrid. Like a dark cherry knight with stable cherry would be stunning

[@orsonlv]

I agree with you. I follow some Chinese live sells. Definitely seeing huge price drop too.

[@rustybell9453]

Your content is well worth the time invested, congrats on doing such a good job. I just collect, but I always try to remember three things when buying morphs: 1. A green plant, by definition, is healthy because of a predominance of chlorophyl. Variegation, by default because of a diminishment of chlorophyl, is not. (Don’t everybody lose their lunch; I have scores of variegated aroids.)And most plants will attempt to revert back , unless genetically manipulated. 2. Tissue culture and genetic manipulation can sometimes produce plants that grow with diminished vigor. I have Thai Cons that simply do not grow as well as a M. deliciosa albo. 3. And with tongue lodged firmly in cheek, I know that the market is tanking when all the sellers come up with fancy, frilly names for what they are selling. The fancier names I see the more I see sellers attempting to create scarcity. You have a new subscriber, love your info!

[@suezy1969]

You are right… the economy is killing us these days. I collect plants but haven’t bought any since May. I went to a pop-up and 3 of the 5 imports ended up dying during acclimation. That was upsetting and a big loss of money. I’m currently on a no buy for awhile. If I do see one I’d like it will have to be under 100.00 or I don’t want it. I’ll print a pic and put it on my wall 😂instead.

[@prettyingreen]

hahaha ya i hear that! The imports can be devastating when they don't make it :/ I'm definitely on a buying hold too! I might have to steal your idea and put a picture of a staghorn fern on my wall 😅

[@Thecatnamedkiwi]

I was at a plant shop yesterday and they had thai cons and the 2inch pots were 150$ and the 6 inch pots were 150$ as well which made me mad 😂

[@milktea2651]

Just recently had the gloriosum Variegata arrive here nz, went on sale for $1000-$1200 a small rooted cutting $600-$730 usd.

[@Black_Jack_AOS]

Another awesome video as usual. My comments coming from the EU zone: Philo Orange Princess - still pretty rare in the EU, definitely more expensive than what you showed. Pink ZZ - seems a bit expensive for import compared to what I've seen in the EU. Monstera adansonii definitely not worth it in the EU, small plants with 5-10 leaves are already at 35€. Monstera full mint - definitely not worth it. Philo gloriousum variegated - not worth it. Legacy Thai - nah not worth it either Alocasias bambino aurea - another one not worth for shipping, they are already under 100€. Variegated frydeks are going down to 30€ so I don't think it's worth all the troubles Billies for that size - I would go for them that size, also for the reason you brought up, instability. Raphiodophora variegated 2 leaf cuttings are about 20-30€ so not worth. Alocasia cuprea variegated? That's insane, they are under 1000€ in the EU. Philo white princess - lol way over what I'd pay there is so much similar to it. That lime green Thai, insane, not even going to comment xD Monstera viet looks insane - I'll wait xD Alocasia chantrieri - not worth it personally Not really into the TC stuff either, specially for the work you'd need to do and risk to sell them for a profit. By the time they are climatized prices are down. BMF - I agree, good price. Crazy stuff man, good vid!

[@Orchidfortress]

I agree ☝️ idk what’s goin on but it is rising ✅

[@yy7803]

Hey Pretty, I love your channel! Love the information that you share with us. But back to this video...there has always been a difference between the Asian, European and American 'rare' plant market, but not as huge as it is now. Not only trend wise but also price wise. Since China joined the plant market they changed the game (in Asia), but not here in Europe (The Netherlands where I live). After corona the market has been shrinking, resulting in (much) cheaper plants for the customers. Besides that, the demand for variegated plants (especially Philodendrons) is kinda low, the same goes for Monstera's. If there has been one on the rise, it is the genus Anthuriums. I have seen them being sold anywhere between 50-1000 (average rare anthurium being 200, but you can find seedlings for cheaper). The days of buying plants above 1000 are over. It's just not worth it, it makes my hobby as a collector less fun plus I know that all those prices will come down over the years like we have seen over and over again. It is however, very interesting to see what is going on in Asia :).

[@wilbra53]

Can you give me the site for the burl Marx flame😍 I’ve wanted to get on in my collection forever!

[@Paula-sw2tt]

Personally, I wouldn't pay $1 for the Orange Princess, because I think it is ugly

[@seth7745]

I think its tissue cultured now, so not so rare.

[@sandracastellanos921]

Shipping from Asia is more expensive now. My suppliers from Thailand increased prices.

[@phunk8607]

P. Orange Princess is AU$40

[@nperegri]

The variegated Raven ZZ looks kind of sickly to me. I've yet to see any other ZZs give me the wow factor I get when I see a Raven. So handsome and needed no variegation to improve it because it's aesthetic is peak, imo.

[@m3rky240]

How can I buy those in bulk?

[@prettyingreen]

Which?

[@m3rky240]

@@prettyingreenfrydecks they are tempting me there a good price tbh

[@christina3478]

What do you think about NWE bubble gum princess?

[@gingercaudill7219]

I really want, need, the Devil and the Spider!! I am not a seller or a high level collector, hell, I still don’t have my Thai Con or Spiritis Sancti! I agree with your point about the Devil auction and in my opinion, it seems that perhaps the three ladies may be in cahoots with one another! I believe in the existence of the Shady Lady , or, ladies for sure! All joking aside, if it walks like a duck, it’s a fuckin’ duck!, thanks 😊 Ginger

[@TooBusyWastingTime]

gloriosum varigated look super cool but probably in a year is going to be half the price

[@ReverenceBeyondCrafts]

Awesome info

[@phunk8607]

M. Laniata Variegata is AU$20

[@positivemind5163]

Everything is expensive😮😮Wow

[@od.vandeveer]

I really dont like most of those variegated plants, and I guess more people dont. So why buy them, they look ill. I am amazed people would buy them at all, let alone at those prices. I do like sectoral white/cream variegation, but also combined with lots of green plants.

[@kindallnight1615]

I feel the pink philos or variants are no longer popular or different enough that people care to spend on. Question do u think golden dragons variegated and variegated tetra are worth selling in the current market in the us?

[@takeprofits1917]

You guys still buying from Asia? Way to many sellers in the USA.

[@seth7745]

Not for some stuff, like the more rare variegated bananas, like variegated dwarf namwa which are impossible to get in the US now

[@deltatango6793]

😂 yes total ⭕️✊🏼😅

[@daveshouse8105]

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I HATE what they are doing. Not a particular fan of business to business to business (EDIT: since people like to assume i want free, this is what i mean by greed, i had to edit this because i dont think people like to pay attention to the video) and by the time it goes to time for the public to buy these they are so priced out that it's not even worth it (edit: meaning the urge to get rich off a plant means its the motivation to buy them all out before the public even had a chance. Meaning supply and demand cost is whatever they want it to be, so if a business buys it for 27,000 it can easily make it to 50,000, i dont care if its a risky gamble, its the act of greed that irritates me. business to business greed flipping, has nothing to do with nonbusiness people who never had a chance to get it at the low of 27,000, now they have to pay even more than that.), I'm all for unicorns, really, but this is greed, and it is very gross. Not remotely a fan. it is getting ridiculous. (edit: still not once did i say i want a free plant)(its as mentioned in the video: a business to business circle jerk without the general public having a chance)

[@Jayl__]

How is it greed? They pay what they want for the plant supple and demand. No owes anybody a cheaper plant. It’s a luxury to buy these plants you don’t have to buy it. If anything they are gambling no guarantee they can make back their investment so I’ll hardly consider this greed

[@marierejoiceinjesus3846]

if you aren't a fan, then you can order it from overseas, but you might not get a discount. no one is going to work for you for free (acclimate it, pay for shipping, etc.). they have food to buy, shelter needs, maybe a family to support. they would get another job.

[@daveshouse8105]

@@marierejoiceinjesus3846 not what i said and thats super assumptive, minus the not being a fan of BUSINESS TO BUSINESS only greed, buying them all out before the public can get a chance to buy is bullshit..........thats the unpopular part of what i meant.

[@daveshouse8105]

@@Jayl__ as its stated in the video, business to business buying them all out before the public can get a chance is outright greed, don't like i say that? not my problem, these business buy them out before the public can take a crack, as i said i have no issue buying unicorns, but when the public has no chance like they do on these conventions is bullshit. as ive spent a pretty penny on single plants, i have no problem paying a price tag. its the business to business greed. yall are a bunch of assumptive douches.

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