Ranking the TOP 10 DPS Players of ALL TIME - Plat Chat Top 10

[@SINotFound]

Plat Chat missing big announcements at the worst time, this'll never get old LMAO

[@chefreyna2291]

What announcement

[@SamOGr]

@@chefreyna2291 check the overwatch league youtube channel

[@Aurora-xg1lj]

@@chefreyna2291 jjonak isn’t playing in the next season

[@Gxblaster]

@@Aurora-xg1lj Sadness :(

[@vngt]

I swear Matt schedules this on purpose

[@stefayylmao]

I'd like to see a list of the greatest rosters of all time, weighing how good each roster is. For example would 2021 Dragons beat the 2020 shock and so on

[@CMC004]

I've thought about that but it would also be super difficult to gauge because of how much the game has evolved along with the players skill

[@petrnovak4846]

Shock has to be number 1

[@benrotko6411]

@@petrnovak4846 no

[@CharlieGreasby]

@@benrotko6411 yeah lmao I feel even Dallas 2021 is close to better than shock 2020, and Shanghai obviously are better than that so I honestly don’t think it’s that close lmao

[@moneyglitch]

@@petrnovak4846 agreed, that team was absolutely unreal. Striker, Rascal, Ans (in his prime), Smurf/Choi/Super were like top 3 tanks on their heroes, and Viol2t, Twilight were the best flex backline hands down, with Moth as best if not top 3 main support. I think that team was pretty much untouchable outside of a Genji heavy meta.

[@SpicyPenny]

Can we just appreciate the fact that Platchat has been singlehandedly been the A T L A S of Overwatch content, keeping us feed with copium for WEEKS of bare minimum. Absolute mad lads, hope they can break masters one day

[@SpicyPenny]

@@ReinforceOW this is good to know! I found out about you through OWL, and love/trust your input! I’ll give Tactical a look through as well!

[@daviddiett2168]

It's something to look forward to every week with any news updates regarding OW in general or just hypothesizing what some OWL teams could look like come May. I'd have loved if there was time to look back at key matches or moments throughout the year and reminisce, I've actually started watching Custa's History of Overwatch to see how the game has evolved going into it's future this year.

[@thetissueofjustice9875]

*overwatch LEAGUE content super is still carrying overwatch in general same for redshell and levelup

[@petertaylor3621]

I love Reinforce's rationale for DPS: "How scary they are in the lobby". Exactly fits how I think about these players.

[@skoomatroll]

That’s why I feel ANS got robbed, if you get in the lobby and see you’re 1v1ing ans on Ashe or Widow you’d be quaking in your gaming chair

[@petertaylor3621]

@@skoomatroll totally agree, I had him 4th in my list below Profit, Fleta, and Leave. If he played last season in a hitscan meta he could've pushed for 2nd or 1st. Highest peaks out of any player I have ever seen.

[@jonwicked7031]

@@petertaylor3621 nah he doesn’t have the longevity sure I think he has the best 1 season but it almost seems like a one hit wonder

[@petertaylor3621]

@@jonwicked7031 I think he if had played in a meta or team that emphasized hitscan he would've bee elite again last season. His 2020 season was so unbelievable that I don't care about the longevity in his case. His insane peak puts him near the top.

[@short-eu7bs]

nah I don't think that rationale works because even inconsistent players are "scary" where they could pop off out of nowhere.

[@BuildingHP]

Listen, Top 10 Silly Hero list is not a bad idea.

[@CharlieGreasby]

I want a top 10 genji list lmao

[@justdave1842]

Always nice to see Valorant casters also enjoying other games

[@edenliu8453]

Lmao

[@martin6043]

Actually laughed

[@jonwicked7031]

No you didn’t 😂

[@CrazeeAdam]

I mean OW was kind of where they made their name originally...if we're talking about Sideshow and Bren.

[@lukcyx3229]

@@CrazeeAdam that's the joke...

[@blairemackenzie7915]

I think doing your most Overrated and Underrated Player on each role from every season could be interesting.

[@blairemackenzie7915]

@Jmt1000 Valid. Valid. I just felt weird putting just Underrated Ig. Haha. I think Underrated would be really interesting.

[@r2bert254]

I cannot believe it. I can NOT fucking believe it. I simply REFUSE to believe the absolute imcompetent, negligence, of actually not, for ANY of these categories whatsoever, not voting for FUCKING Rascal. This guy doesn't get props by anyone, on no one's social media radar whatsoever. Everyone's talking about like "oh Smurf, ya know, Smurf he's-- poor Smurf!" think about Rascal! He literally came into the league at the start of the year, was the BEST Mei. He revolutionized the way you play Echo, and set the guidelines for everyone else in the league for MONTHS! Or pretty much like half the season! And then he comes into the Countdown Cup and plays the Genji, that actually turns the SanFranciscoShockaroundandtheywintheseriesagainstthePhiladelphiaFusion! How is NO ONE, on this PLANET talking about Rascal as one of the most underrated players of the year! It's absolutely... HURTING MY SOUL!

[@timppaaz_]

Across all of the goat lists, sideshow has had clearly had the best lists/opinions overall, I have found so much respect to him after losing it while watching him actually play the game on stream.

[@diran0]

i like his lists overall, but this was my least favourite. Leave deserves WAY better than 11.

[@DylanWilby]

His on-stream persona is just that tbf: a persona. He definitely plays up to it a lot.

[@jonwicked7031]

Agreed also avast list have to be the worst overall, even Mr.X has moments of clarity

[@kaisawhatever4443]

His take on Leave is horrible

[@Mashmallow_31]

No way these guys put Carpe at 9. He was one of the best dps in the game in 2018 and he reached the finals. He was a role star in 2020 and reached the semi-finals. He was consistent in 2021. The disrespect to Carpe is real holy... He is at minimum 6 imo.

[@jakeloucks1762]

He is also 2nd all time for Elims, final blows and total hero damage done for the overwatch league lol… Bren putting him at 15 is just a baffling take

[@HDKoops]

They’re drunk.

[@Mashmallow_31]

@@jakeloucks1762 That is very true. And it seems like Bren rates Birdring way too high. He wasn't even the best player in London and Glads. He was very good but not no.4 all time. EDIT: OMG BREN HAD STITCH OVER CARPE, AND DIEM AT 8!??!!

[@adamu.2674]

Their lists so far have been all over the place. I mean they put Super as #1 MT in the games history. Rediculous.

[@adamu.2674]

STITCH? STITCH! OMFG

[@connordurham6827]

Should have been a top 20 sadge, graphics could have been used for just top 10 because Kurt is the goat

[@martin6043]

Fleta and especially profit are just so much ahead of and other dps

[@SpyggtSpaghetti]

Leaves contenders team beat Runaway twice, won Nexus cup sweeping every korean team. what does Sideshow mean no long career

[@CrazeeAdam]

I think either way you go, Fleta or Profit, both are just inhuman beasts who can play near every single hero in the game, not just DPS, I feel if you gave them enough time they could run any hero possible. Like both are just computers it seems like sometimes that just download heroes and how to play them and then pop off on them. We're just lucky enough to witness not 1 but 2 people like this. And the fact that they are both #1 and #2 on most of the lists (I think except Bren) just says a whole lot about how influential they are. I like Matt's list the best actually btw. But I do rate Fleta higher than Profit, and he's the only one who had him at #1. So I kind of have to go with matt

[@LauraLoo77]

Nailed it.

[@rambujam]

Wild to me that Bren didn't have Fleta in the top 5

[@LauraLoo77]

@@rambujam Not really wild to me. That's higher up than I expected for him.

[@petertaylor3621]

top 10 all time players would be incredible. really interesting to see how it would shape up.

[@tymunster]

Man I thought Carpe was a nut in 2021

[@hamk0spe]

He started off 2021 really, really strong. But sadly struggled with consistency and his tracer didn't look the same as in the past :(

[@daviddiett2168]

All time Top 10? This is gonna be a mess... xD

[@justinwillis2112]

I'd like to see an episode where each person puts together their all-star team which can include any players who have EVER played in OWL. Would be interesting to see who you guys think is not just good but would mesh well with the others you've chosen. I would think each team would be a roster of 7 (3 DPS, 2 Tanks, 2 Support).

[@NotKewl]

Honorable mentions: Chipsa Who else has a 100% winrate in owl?

[@gujonteitur4853]

Good point

[@brandenaugustine1782]

Back in Season 3 during the early Covid period, I saw a Philly Fusion game where they went up against the Gladiators and I remember saying to my roommate that Birdring gave me Evil Carpe energy, and I maintain today that I feel the same way watching Birdring click heads in that King's Row clip.

[@thetoxicpig7959]

The carpe slander is unreal. Same tier as Jjonak in terms of longevity, nutty at the start of OWL and didn’t fall off as hard as others say. There’s a reason why he’s the Philly captain and why he played over Rascal so much this past season. Imo he should be right around Birdring

[@josephmewies9453]

i dont think jjonak had as much longevity as some may put forward and especially not from no. 8 up

[@thetoxicpig7959]

@@josephmewies9453 jjonak no longevity? He’s literally the only one who has played every single map for a team

[@josephmewies9453]

@@thetoxicpig7959 they also didnt have another option. he helb back the nyxl for 3 years not very sad to see him go

[@seeryeven]

As an NYXL fan, seeing Bren have Libero at 10 made me feel like a proud dad. Favourite OW player of all time.

[@mickelshout4327]

The team previews really kept me excited through the off-season last year, please do those again!

[@mintcream7017]

I’m so glad to hear Bren defend libero- criminally underrated player, libero was the flex, the glue, the one person on NYXL that consistently proved their raw talent on hero after hero in clutch situation after clutch situation.

[@Archivist]

Fleta should have been #1. Carpe at #9 is criminal. Bren continues to produce "interesting" picks lol. Other than that, this is the best of the Plat Chat rankings. Very entertaining!

[@avet4952]

Profit is better

[@Archivist]

Profit's peak was 3 seasons ago when the competition was much easier, Fleta was in his prime these last 2 seasons at the height of competition.

[@Archivist]

Also, MVP diff

[@pyocopyocoultra2047]

@@Archivist profit has been good for a lot longer than fleta also you have to take the team they are playing with into consideration

[@permanenteuphoria2723]

@@pyocopyocoultra2047 he didn’t, otherwise it would obviously be Profit lol

[@daviddiett2168]

Most of the Top 10 lists were actually pretty solid given the results, even Mr.X had one of the strongest ones but Bren had Stitch rated above Carpe? Come on man. I was wondering when you think of OWL GOAT who would be the first player to come to find for longevity, consistant performance and even accolades and with Profit I think he may stand to the first real GOAT of the League. Also I'd love to hear a discussions on either Top 10 coaches based on how they did their job for their players and what awards their teams achieved as a result or the Top 10 most underrated players. People like FITS, Libero, Heesu and more are probably worthy of more praise but for reasons just never are. For example as good as Sparkle was last year there was a game where Yaki diffed him damn near every way on Tracer and Echo but Florida's lacking performance might've overshadowed that, or when Heesu played Widow in playoffs instead of Carpe and people were foaming at the mouth at the very idea but he was probably as consistent or maybe even more so but Philly still couldn't reach the results they wanted. I'd love to see something like that discussed before OW1 (I guess) offically ends for the League this year if it's possible. Oh and Kurt should be Bren's player of the year for his contributions to Plat Chat.

[@Alex_Asp]

Bren thank you so fucking much for talking about Libero in the end, I have never been so mad at my own org as when the NYXL just benched him for FUCKING NOTHING and nothing would make me happier than seeing him back on any team but u know I would prefer NYXL

[@ianpetkau3346]

I feel like eqo got robbed, he had an extremely dominant 2018, a solid 2019, extremely high peaks in 2020, and even benched rascal a lot of the time in 2021. The fact that he did not make a single top 15 is criminal

[@GhostlyNest]

True good take tbh

[@krystalhaug1957]

Sideshow is freaking ignorant. Saying that Leave wasn’t as good as Haksal, or Profit, or Decay pre-OWL is so ignorant and false. Go watch those games. MY 4-0ed runaway and 3-0ed every Korean team at the Nexus Cup. MY 2-3 lost to Lunatic High at the grand final in 2017 (or 2016?) MY was as competitive as all the top Korean teams at the time and Leave was the shiniest star on that team.

[@krystalhaug1957]

Not to mention that Leave saved China’s face in 2018 World Cup. China should be grateful that Leave exists.

[@kaisawhatever4443]

Sideshow is so ignorant of Leave’s pre OWL dominance

[@Zapiii69]

Carpe is officially the most underrated player in the history of OWL

[@briantowsey9534]

Facts

[@CrazeeAdam]

eh I don't think he's necessairly underrated. he made top 10 of all time. He just unfortunately hasn't won anything :( as is the Philly curse. Like to me there's much more underrated players just because they are great players who were on bad teams for a lot of their career (i.e. Danteh, Dalton, Glister to name a few damage players)

[@kabukitanuki_2256]

Taimou effect harryhook akm zacharee rascal doha decay sp9kle pine My unbiased take.

[@cpeter9701]

No way you rank Carpe #9

[@frowzeyzz4251]

How can they say leave never won anything when he was legit the mvp in 2021? sure chengdu never won anything but the league mvp coming from a team that never won anything has to be testimony to his individual impact

[@sohkya27]

agree with bren on the libero take, dude was absolutely integral to almost any team he's been on. never gonna forget the mei wall strat in meta athena.

[@strongtallhandsomemuscular290]

I'd like to see an All-Time Overwatch Dream Team roster, who you all choose for your teams in a 2 -2 -2 lock from any point in the history of OW

[@OhNeuchy]

Carpe is very underrated it seems, despite being the player with most kills and straight up carrying Philadelphia for a few years.

[@CrazeeAdam]

Eh I don't think he hard carried though. He did do well. But he had a great team around him for most of it. But at the end of the day he hasn't done a lot unfortunately. I think he gets rated high based on longevity and eye test.

[@mangshu21]

@@CrazeeAdam longevity is more impressive than peak

[@AshPhoenix]

Sideshow needs to do homework before commenting on Leave pre owl. He dominated Whoru, Haksal, Fleta etc every time, MY beat most Korean teams except lunatic high.

[@gravenhurst5970]

Idea: Top 5 (or however many you guys want) Funniest OWL moments. Ex: im37 speaking english to Danny after he spoke Korean to him, Profits middle finger, etc

[@calebbustin8894]

I’d like to shout out my boy Danteh. Not sure top ten, but definitely should have been on the top 15 for somebody

[@keachweder6217]

I haven't finished it yet so I'm bummed to hear Danteh isn't top 10 lol but yeah I always thought danteh was underrated. If he was on a good team he would have absolutely stomped I think.

[@marcogeorgoussis5531]

I think you guys are forgetting how great Birdring was all of 2020 not just in the playoffs, him and space were literally carrying gladiators kicking and screaming all season long. Also in stage 4 2019 while profit was out there playing some of the worst Mei he's ever played, Birdring was out there playing some of the best hanzo in the league at the time.

[@permanenteuphoria2723]

yeah i agree birdring was sick

[@veer0522]

i think you are forgetting how awful he was in goats, profit was so much better at both the brig and zarya than him, and he benched himself in the playoffs when they where actually playing pretty well

[@judeau5320]

I think a good idea for off season content is trying to bring on some of the rookies coming into the game for next year and talk to them about their thoughts going into OW2 and about their career throughout OW1 outside of the League.

[@Nessa-939]

yo that would be sick

[@orilavi3506]

You cant put ans there even with his godlike preformence he only had 1 year nothing b4 and basically nothing after

[@justinoliveira3063]

I think Decay could easily be in the top 5 DPS of all time if he could actually get on a team that doesn't poo the bed. His raw skill is through the roof, but he has attitude problems. if he cleaned up his act, we could be witnessing the next Profit or Fleta just not as flexible.

[@demonedante1148]

Wtf Carpe only 9th wtf are they smoking, love how they count tank and support play on DPS wtf

[@caphold3r590]

I see they're going to somehow put Fleta above Profit (The GOAT)

[@aqwrd3546]

Totally

[@asoidfhowehjr8248]

As they should

[@veer0522]

@@asoidfhowehjr8248 they should not, profit has been more consistent over the years

[@CrazeeAdam]

People think Profit is somehow career and hero wise that much above Fleta. But they have almost identical careers except Fleta had to deal with being on horrible teams. Profit never really has. Even Profits worst Seoul teams are leaps better than Fleta's. But they both have won 1 Championship, they both had 1 year their teams made it far. They both had 2 years their teams didn't make it far. But! Fleta won MVP. Profit was more successful pre OWL. Fleta is arguably more influential and flexible. Profit has had a longer career. Both are great picks for #1. We're just lucky to get to witness 2 players that good at the same time.

[@IFCGaming]

I always do my Top10 list right before the episode, so I can be as emotional as Sideshow when watching 😂

[@dadogg1585]

Fleta profit striker carpe leave lip ans birdring rascal haksal. Other possibilities are haksal and fits. Hm could have decay, yaki, danteh, sparkle, Libero

[@krystalhaug1957]

Not bad not bad.

[@DontSigh]

I know you'll actually have some news to talk about next week but I still really want an episode with Kurt and/or Wyatt where you quiz them on whatever OWL knowledge they've passively accumulated over the years

[@dry009]

TBH I don't think any of your lists were bad. There were fewer hot takes than in most episodes. BUT SO DISAPPOINTED JOHNNY DIDN'T GIVE US THE RASCAL RANT

[@CrazeeAdam]

I think he didn't give the rant because Rascal did in fact make the top 10. I don't think anyone expects Rascal to make like even the top 5, because there are just so many other like players who just go nuts on so many more heroes. But Rascal is high because he's an innovator I think and has a "fighting mentality" to him to battle his way back into the league and good standing.

[@RecoilMojo]

Overwatch 2 waiting room H Y P E

[@TheWackU]

Sideshow hands down had the best DPS list. Bren was a dumpster fire and Avast is rating the best 10 DPS players right now instead of ALL TIME.

[@nagontingingenhar]

While I do agree that he shouldn’t be top 3 or even 5. You can’t ignore the absolute DOMINATION that ANS had in season 3. I’m not even a shock fan and I even think that he should be top 10. I know it was only one season but come on, in season 3 he arguably was the most dominant dps player we’ve ever witnessed in league history.

[@s5h273]

my favorite is actually mr.x list. i think he balanced longevity, individual skill level, dominance, consistency, winning records really well.

[@ieuanwilliams9139]

Putting fleta above profit I should criminal.every time they play each other in big games profit Is levels above

[@karanmohanty5357]

Idk if Im a nostalgia merchant, but Carpe at 9 is disgustingly low

[@Noah-od1de]

can you guys do a lego building stream please? thanks

[@MrPants-rk9yi]

Carpe got absolutely shafted on this list.

[@junt2397]

I think Jinmu deserves a shot, dude is best pharah in the leaguue ever since he started playing and is a extremely good Hanzo and genji

[@felipemunoz2917]

Ok guys seriously, where the fuck is Sinaatra?

[@kaisawhatever4443]

Lip No. 3 is just recency bias.

[@Sam-xb7um]

Is Sinatraa excluded from discussion due to his controversy, or on the basis of being mainly dominant during the Goats meta? Maybe I've missed something and this was addressed, but it feels strange to not hear anything regarding a previous OWL MVP in the DPS category...

[@Andreea-cj2pk]

I believe it's been mentioned that huge scandals would get them excluded

[@hungrydave]

Yeah. They mentioned this in one of the previous lists. They avoided a few controversial players like RJH, Sinatraa, Dreamkasper, etc.

[@Sam-xb7um]

@@hungrydave Okay that makes sense, thanks for the reply!

[@Nuek3163]

Sinatraa was a great yet controversial player however he had half the 2018 and half the 2020 season on dps and 1 year as the best zarya. Striker, Rascal, Ans just seems like a preferred lineup on dps.

[@cwb1130]

It is so ridiculous. OJ, Mike Tyson, Tiger Woods... all of these guys have had major issues in their personal lives but can still be recognized for their greatness in sport. Sinatraa has 2 OWL titles, a World Cup title, an OWL MVP and a WC MVP - and he was able to dominate before and during GOATS. And he's not listed because his ex gf posted messages online (which she had to edit for some reason) that did nothing but prove they had a very unhealthy, unhappy, immature relationship. There was nothing criminal about what she posted, nothing condemning, nothing extremely concerning, and nothing out of the ordinary from what anyone should expect to see out of your average teenage breakup. This was none of the public's business, and they both clearly needed to split up and move on. The shitstorm thrown at that kid (and yes, he's a kid), was totally overblown and I can't even imagine what its been like to deal with.

[@RuneSkimmy]

why is bren even on the show if he's not taking it seriously

[@ellaser93]

Because he is entertaining. And ultimately, that's all that matters. Also, I am pretty sure he's one of the owners of the Plat Chat LLC that produces these videos.

[@Josh-ui7nq]

F1 points system is 1st: 25 2nd: 18 3rd: 15 4th: 12 5th: 10 6th: 8 7th: 6 8th: 4 9th: 2 10th: 1

[@mamboonthetube7652]

I zoned out for a second and the only thing i heard was avast saying "sick cosmic dick that we're having to take" and it's just echoing in my head now.

[@qjasonstew3263]

Ima be honest Bren list is the worst list I have ever seen

[@leetebbens8858]

Conner kinda misses the "best" of all time vs "greatest" of all time distinction. I think most people see a greatest list as taking into longevity, impact on the sport, and accomplishments into account, not juat peak skill/performance. He isn't persay wrong, but I think most people tackle the goat debate as I explained above.

[@nexesses1548]

Pretty good list looking at greatness, achievements and looking at their skill relative to their time. I prefer a top 10 *best* list with over a *greatness* list. Gives players like Yaki, decay, Pelican, kevster, and even fits etc the respect they deserve. All of them would beat like half of the entire list in most meta’s lol. But yeah, a list looking at actual skill, game sense, carry potential at the highest level, flexibility. Way more interesting imo. (Which is why I liked avast lists more than most)

[@certifiedbttm4003]

Yeah tend to agree with that, I like greatness and all but it has so many factors outside of the control of the players ranked. Like Yaki, Pelican, kevster etc would roll most of the people on the list, like absolutely steam through them. But no, it’s about team succes even though we are ranking individuals.

[@conallross1694]

I mean that’s just the season 4 awards show

[@jacobhatton9725]

Yeah, but it kinda means anyone who didn't play to last year basically gets booted off the list, since the level of play increased so significantly every year. I really would be best to do both lists, rather than the 1

[@MrNassimfortmrw]

Just watch them rob carpe of a spot

[@phoney4258]

He’ll get 2nd place just for the meme.

[@nestlepurelife1353]

Draft players for your teams for a 5th season of overwatch (Pretend there will be another season and everyone drafts from the pool of all players)

[@bubloo7219]

i can't defend avast anymore wtf is this bro

[@50Blox]

1. Rascal 2. Rascal 3. Rascal 4. Rascal 5. Rascal 6. Rascal 7. Rascal 8. Rascal 9. Rascal 10. Rascal

[@krystalhaug1957]

Delusional

[@metsalo1234]

Do a highest peaks ranking. I want to see a discussion about who was the best at his best arcoss all roles. It could be a top 10 or a hot takes where eveyone argues for one player. (If so let Brenn argue for Ans aka the hitscan GOAT)

[@ashdude3058]

Jjonak leejaegon Fissure/gesture? Choi profit ans

[@remryukcreepy]

Avast beyond based with the Yaki shoutout, definitely agree with the reasoning that it doesn't matter he didn't win, dude's a freakbeast

[@A_weak_baby]

Why not rate a players hitscan abilities in one video and their flex dps in another?

[@CrazeeAdam]

I think because theres players like Fleta, Profit, Leave who play everything. Not many, but some. Where do you rate these guys? Like. Are they on both? Are they on only 1?

[@krystalhaug1957]

Would love to include Pelican or shy, but it feels wrong to put rookies in top 10.

[@MastaHicks]

They just have to keep playing like that and they are pretty good candidate for making it to the top 10 OW2 list in a few years.

[@CrazeeAdam]

Maybe in another couple years. Pelican if he replicates this season on the Outlaws, maybe even next year you could include him in something like this

[@silverose9238]

I said this in the last videos comments, and i’ll say it again. I hate when they say “guys, im putting him 14th out of EVERY DPS PLAYER IN OVERWATCH”. Bren (in this case) NOBODY believes you think Haksal is a bad player. I don’t think thats anyones problem. The problem is you thinking that 13 DPS players have been better than Haksal all time. Im actually not arguing this specific point cause i don’t know where to put Haksal, but the argument they keep putting out of “hes on my list, im not saying hes bad” just annoys me. No one thinks you think theyre bad. We want you to explain why you have them below the specific people you put above them

[@jubjubssy]

Avast wakes up and wonders how he can drop another nuclear bomb of an L take. DOHA over RASCAL, HAKSAL AND CARPE??? How did this man even try to justify that with a straight face? YAKI OVER LIP AND ALL THE PLAYERS I MENTIONED BEFORE?? Dude is smoking some premium goop.

[@digancreel6427]

Sp9rk1e above ANS is actually criminal. As far as heroes hes great at, it doom and Genji period. He is by far the most overrated player in OWL history, especially in 2021. His tracer required a lot of resources for minimal results, and he won riding on Fearless' backpack. Don't get me wrong, his tracer was better than expected, but wasn't far above mid-low level traces like Happy, Naist, etc. ANS on the other hand massively impacted Shock despite the good roster, not just kinda wandered beside it

[@MrLbroom]

Honestly, this list is way less egregious than I expected. I would actually say that Fleta is above Profit, but I can understand why the list is the way it is. NOT LOOKING FOR A FIGHT, PLEASE DONT SPAM MY REPLIES.

[@xeasonchan9401]

profit fleta lip carpe striker leave decay

[@krystalhaug1957]

Solid

[@davidjaramillo7187]

This is a really good top tbh

[@saftladentv4366]

Roast me :D : 1. Profit 2. Fleta 3. Birdring 4. Decay 5. Ans 6. Lip 7. Leave 8. Sparkle 9. Carpe 10. Pine 11. Striker 12. Rascal 13. Haksal 14. Fits 15. Happy

[@Iroh21LoL]

I know it has been some time now but I just rewatched this Video and when they hit the Top three I was sure it was gonna be Fleta and Profit in there. I was wondering who would be in there with them and couldn't really think of someone contesting that high up. But then I found someone and realized that they weren't on the list. Not even mentioned once. I'm kinda shocked that no one even touched the question of Sinatraa being on this list. Sure his peak was in Goats and DS but fucking hell was that guy good. He was the best Zarya in the league, no doubt about that and he was probably the best DPS that year overall (Legit MVP LUL). I suppose because he hasnt played that much other than 2019 he didn't get on the list but Jesus that guy was a god

[@DeadlyKitten19]

I’m as much of a yaki stan as avast so i want so hard to say that i think his list is the best but i can definitely say i think bren’s is the worst

[@turt7916]

The best list was Matt’s and Avast’s was a close second,you could say they’re interchangeable like their rank 1’s

[@benchesworth7750]

I'm writing this before seeing the top of the list, but I think most people came into this episode knowing that it would all come down to Profit v Fleta. There are people that come close to them like LIP, who reinvented Sombra and was arguably the best player two years running, and Striker, as the best player on perhaps the most impactful hero. But... the history behind Profit and Fleta is so big. The rivalry and discussion year after year surrounding these two of being the greatest makes this video not only the best DPS of OW, but also the GOAT of OW1 in my opinion. These two have been consistently incredible from the dawn of Overwatch. They haven't just been good, they have been at the PEAK. The Fleta deadlift was a meme for so long until finally we saw him be unleashed on a truly incredible team in 2020 and 2021. And Profit has carried in so many different types of metas that it's not even funny, and his playoff carry is huge. Most final blows ever is absolutely INCREDIBLE. I'm so glad these two were number 1 and 2. Both of these guys deserve the title, to be honest. EDIT: LET'S GO PROFIT GOAT

[@olivergames7783]

I honestly thought it would be between profit and carpe

[@jonwicked7031]

Honestly don’t know how Seoul screw up when they had the 2 best DPS

[@nirax9951]

@@jonwicked7031 cause tanks and supports were just average and its a 6player team game dude

[@ellaser93]

@@jonwicked7031 To be fair; Fleta and Profit never played together. They both changed teams in 2020.

[@HewoFwost]

even though shit happened. Sinatraa realistically shouldve been on here. he was a genuine GOAT for his time

[@Rekcha]

I always give it to Profit because I’ve never seen a player reach such an individual peak on so many heroes. At different points in his career, he’s been the best Genji, Tracer, Pharah, Hanzo, etc. The only thing I’ve seen him be meh on was Sombra, and then he wasn’t a truly elite hitscan but he was still great. It’s why I put him above ANS or Sparkle who are only the best at like two heroes. The only comparison I have for Profit is Leave or Fleta, but while Leave can play almost any hero incredibly well, he just hasn’t been in the league as long, and Fleta doesn’t have the same individual peak.

[@Rekcha]

Also Avast has the best list imo, because I don’t rate rings very highly in a team game. Hard carry performances are exceedingly rare, and Profit pulling them off consistently is why he is number 1. Those kinds of performances deserve a lot of credit, not rings. This isn’t basketball where it’s essentially a series of 1v1s and talent can just dominate.

[@MegaHari7861]

Fr. Profit can play literally everything and look scarily good. He's also consistent as fuck

[@mareksicinski3726]

5:47 I mean I don't know if thay is backseat, that is engagement, doesn't necessarily invovle shitting ons omeone 7:35 Aren't achievements and titles just proofs of skill and its application? That is their value no? 1:12:37 well or develop and show his skill 1:13:33 well it was not that silly, it is fine o get hype predictions whether they're right or wrong

[@schmiv2672]

No saya or yaki smh this list is invalid

[@rngsmiles3979]

I'm surprised you did not mention Sparkle's insane doomfist play as well. The hero was very situational, but there were several teamfights that he was able to turn with some of his plays. I would say in terms of that specific hero he is top 3 for sure. Though it is tough to accurately rank him due to the hero not being played too often.

[@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS]

they mentioned the em hackfist in contenders

[@RonnyyyyAU]

Controversy aside, No Sinatraa?

[@gTr4yr4y]

No way Rascal should be number 8 and carpe 9… Rascal never dominated to nearly the same extent

[@matt-impulse]

Stitch above haksal and carpe? Bren was drunk there was no way lmao

[@scope8616]

when i didnt see profit come up in any until 2nd was revealed as fleta. not a doubt in my mind. It was profit. the true DPS GOAT

[@Reydioactive]

the absolute mald in the chat replay over sinatraa is hilarious shouldnt be on the list regardless. cry about it.

[@luismgoncalves]

Homestly I'd love a top 10 best tracers, because Tracer in it of itself is an overwatch role... every team needs one and the best ones have tremendous impact

[@vector8052]

no controversy sinatraa ez top 10

[@ZzVOL]

hahaha rascal over Carpe. this list is busted. if I'm building a team, I take carpe over rascal 100% of the time.

[@marozid1]

Formula 1 drivers = Fleshy Pilots. Do the GOAT list, but you'll get disagreements regardless.

[@anto-mt7tv]

I am genuinely suprised that nobody talked about Sinaatra, dude had issues but he was really good.

[@felipemunoz2917]

Bro I’m a Dynasty fan, but I was really expecting Sinaatra to be top 5 at least

[@anto-mt7tv]

@@felipemunoz2917 Same

[@anto-mt7tv]

@Spanxsy oh didn’t know that thanks.

[@Bazz0li]

How is Yaki a hyper flex ?

[@GreenLightningHood]

Hey you guys remember that time when some of the best dps duos in the league were getting their cheeks absolutely thunderclapped by stitch and ttuba?