The OFFICIAL Plat Chat 2022 POWER RANKINGS! - Plat Chat Ep. 127

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[@karsonswartzbaugh]

Professor sideshow had a great lecture today and really involved the class, despite them getting a bet rowdy. I hope he can balance his lectures and complete medical school soon!

[@kennedygore2143]

Yeah I’m glad he’s posting his lectures for free too! I wonder how much a course is?

[@alastair8119]

If "Boston Uprising is a professional organizations" doesn't become a meme I will be very disappointed

[@alexbrown2998]

Need a Tshirt that is either that or PlatChat 😂

[@Bigshmin]

I’d love to imagine a world where the rankings at the end of the year are exactly what’s here but flipped so reinforce can be cocky with his professional organization

[@gforceden10]

38:24 for the history books

[@kamhash1]

I’m transcribing it for the history books

[@Starling2100]

They’re so professional that they’re already ahead in the dung slinger meta

[@alrightyeaokay]

Avast’s rants where he goes full meme to get his point across are so entertaining. He’s so sharp and quick with his comments and is a really fun and interesting counterbalance to the thoughtfulness of Custa and data reality checks from Jonathan.

[@senior.toucan6370]

I like egg

[@SA3Future]

Plat chat equilibrium

[@Zarzar22]

Avast has the exact same humor as me and I love it. Just the constant random metaphors and over the top anunciation are such a fool proof way to get a laugh out of me

[@jackbrown5461]

We have found the Avast burner

[@arthurdunn4594]

I really agree with this. Meanwhile Eggman keeps the balance between the 3 with the occasional dive into an outburst when someone says something outrageous. Equilibrium

[@davidaston0]

Every "Boston Uprising is a professional organization" from Reinforce: 25:58, 26:31, 28:20, 29:08, 38:25, 1:10:46

[@redaxecat9206]

1:10:46

[@armchairowlyst]

The Boston Uprising is a professional organization

[@birgitte87dk]

Okay Jonathan, let's get one thing straight. Arachnids are not insects - they are arachnids.

[@AlexScottDixon]

🤓

[@hy3na739]

that bothered me aswell...

[@JaziB]

ok but did you know that boston uprising is a professional organization

[@Gxblaster]

haha

[@mareksicinski3726]

@@AlexScottDixon imagine using 🤓 as an insult smh

[@507louis507]

"This is a stupid award, because we never know what coaches do", Custa telling like it is, thank you!

[@jonwicked7031]

Tobi coach of the year

[@aryansingh2199]

i think nyxl has the worst ranking here. drake as the 6th player really brings things together, his music and overall personality and persona as a people-person should really give this team a great culture and allow them to steal the power of friendship from the dallas fuel.

[@Adurianman]

I thought only Boston is allowed to sign child groomers

[@GiXGRaVeZ]

@@Adurianman I'll have you know that Boston is a professional organization

[@isaacwright9667]

@@Adurianman please explain I’m so confused rn

[@Adurianman]

@@isaacwright9667 Boston had 2 cases of players having very very questionable fan interaction, and Drake the canadian singer/actor had very very questionable interaction with 14 year old actor from stranger things

[@ashdude3058]

They looked horrible in their first game but we’ll see, Yaki and Flora is a top 8 dps line tbh

[@hazapilgrim]

Johnny is so right, Boston Uprising is a professional organization

[@Xeggs]

Glory to the guangzhou economic development zone

[@edenwilde2719]

The best podcast episode on the internet probably

[@CQuick30]

Sideshow is looking clean with that short buzz cut. Better than the full shave imo.

[@thebiggestcarl]

I promise you guys that Guxue is a very good main tank who has dealt with shitty off tanks, shitty inconsistent damage dealers, and inconsistent back lines with consistently bad coaching. I think this is the year he pops the hell off. It’s impossible for a main tank to look good if your team sucks, look at 2018 fearless.

[@splodeyferret]

If you ask me which tank has the highest chance to pound on doomfist this year with pure mechanical excellence, I would say guxue

[@ratchetst3v38]

S3 fair enough, Sasin was only consistent on Zarya and QoQ came in too late to really build synergy. S4 watch (or don't) watch their rush, HE was the problem 200%; he got outpaced in every other meta and wasn't the deciding factor when they did well. They obviously had coaching and team comp issues throughout (the June fumble was SOOOOO bad) so it's not all on him, but to solely blame Bernar or an underperforming Architect is ludicrous.

[@aidancocking4014]

Bernar has been one of the most underrated players for the past 3 years

[@schoeii]

The lads be sleeping on how good that T1 roster was, Avrl has come and said in the past if it wasnt for covid theyd won contenders last year. MM3 and Zest are a proven dps duo who have great synergy and will hit the ground running. Watch mm3 have a massive push towards ROTY and raising Phily a few spots up the ladder

[@evanstricker7304]

as a Fusion fan I pleasantly surprised with the ranking. Thank you Mr. Egg

[@adriangibson5779]

I am very interested to see Reinforce's take on having the Outlaws above Atlanta in his personal power rankings because I don't see that one.

[@VDL28]

Well i think that there is exactly 1 reason for putting Outlaws over Atlanta and that is that Atlanta has no Coach. In my opinion Sephy has less impact than Chef Heidi had on the Fusion

[@purplewine7362]

@@VDL28 true unter was one of the biggest reasons for Atlanta's success last year

[@SpyggtSpaghetti]

Atlanta hard backline diffs Outlaws, Iris has only proven himself on Baptiste

[@NaruBrilu]

The loss of pelican i feel like is a pretty big hit that not many ppl have talked about. He greatly helped them win a lot of series last season

[@Dylan-fb8cy]

Altanta are so much better than Houston. All four of them probably have Atlanta much higher

[@brendo_ow9813]

LMAO I love that the episode where sideshow comes back is sponsored by JUST EGG… beautiful ad placement honestly

[@Kajor1]

NOHILL BOUTTA COACH DIFF THE ENTIRE LEAGUE ONG 💯 BELIEVE IN BOSSMAN 🙏

[@cavemanchonny]

Lmao big fan cool seeing you here

[@Kajor1]

@@cavemanchonny 👍

[@mckinleyostvig7135]

1:24:20 Chengdu never protected their backline anyways. Famously their playstyle is abandon the supports while everybody else goes in.

[@hobobob572]

I’m pretty high on Titans this year compared to everyone else. I think they have an elite dps line that could just win games for them.

[@rainbowtility6846]

Where would you place them

[@hobobob572]

@@rainbowtility6846 from 11-14

[@DogeCoinInvestor]

off the finest copium in the land

[@hobobob572]

@@DogeCoinInvestor you see i thought they would be smart enough to atleast play shockwave and aspire. But my fault for thinking their coach had enough brain cells to do so.

[@floralpatterns21]

Striker is old at 22 in overwatch, meanwhile in other games FNS won a championship at 30 lol

[@lachlansamuels03]

Fusion have to be the most underrated here, they have crazy vets in carpe fury and they've played together before. And the T1 inports beat o2blast in contenders. T1 would've won contenders if they weren't forced to bow out.

[@jonwicked7031]

I think they got a fair siting maybe 1 spot up

[@HaliteBoulder]

Was this recorded before the belosrea announcement or did I just miss something. That surely adds a bit more to push them up a spot or two!

[@kjbjb6243]

I malded at Custa and reinforce arguing that chungdu have a "massive" hole in jinmu not being able to play long range hitscan a bigger difference than houston outlaws missing 3 out of 6 hero roles. Edit: my mald was unjustified-forgot about mer1t. I would still pick this chungdu roster every time over houston tho

[@pplanetjuju]

Houston are missing a main tank and a main support so what's the third

[@RandomKiddyWinkle]

@@pplanetjuju I think some people don’t realise that mer1t is a hitscan player

[@christopherhamill525]

3?

[@pplanetjuju]

@@RandomKiddyWinkle apparently cause I’m confused

[@kjbjb6243]

@@pplanetjuju i meant hitscan dps- but tbh i just forgot or didn't notice merit was on the team. Thanks for correction

[@alexJG_Shorts]

25:44 Boston is a professional organization!

[@tjcoleman7439]

Okay heres my hot take and where I disagree with yall's ranking the most: I put Toronto at #6 Overall in my rankings. So heres why: First and foremost, I think we can all agree their backline is turbo stacked, I think easily top 5 in the league this year. I think a really good backline will be crucial this year, not only to survive the extra pressure from enemy flankers, but also to take advantage of the more open environment and actually do some more damage themselves on characters like Ana, and man do Toronto have a good Ana. I think Toronto's tankline is also very strong. I think Muze is being severely underrated, I think he was the best rookie maintank last year. His rein started out a little shaky, but improved as the season went on, but every other hero he played he was fantastic at, Fantastic Winston, Ball and Orisa. Hes one of the most flexible maintanks in the league and if theres any place where he falls short I think Hotba can pick up the slack. I agree the DPS department does seem like the biggest weakness for this team, but a Heesu Although dps lineup sounds pretty decent in the right metas. But overall, I think one of the biggest things Toronto has going for them is they are extremely well rounded. Sure, they don't have the absolute best tanks in the league, but they have TWO really pretty decent tanks, compare that to the many teams around them (Houston, Shock, Seoul, Philly just to name a few) who are betting all their chips on a single tank. They also have a very exciting main support player which, again, many teams like Shock and Houston are just lacking. I think its a well crafted roster that should be able to handle nearly anything this year can throw at it.

[@Th3dra]

I love seeing this take on mUze, I loved watching him play last year and thought he performed really well, I feel like he is being seriously underrated this year and I hope he will show up this year.

[@rngsmiles3979]

I love watching power rankings after seeing the opening weekend. Just to see how much things change.

[@kiwipedia4484]

I agree with Reinforce about the London Spitfire not being 20th and possibly even higher than 19th. Tanks: Poko is a proven off tank, who was arguably the best western off tank in the world in 2020 above Space and Hawk. He even played over Fury and especially popped off on Dva. Even though he barely played in 2021, I still think he stood out the most when the Fusion players in visa hell 'smurfed' in Contenders. He was constantly making plays and also making a lot of important calls. His veteran presence is a good addition to the Spitfire, especially in OW2 where tanks can have high impact. I know people have their doubts about Hadi, but there must have been a reason London released him and then picked him up again. He was really good on BH and I think it's only fair to give him a second chance. DPS: Shax has always been a consistent player and even has some serious carry potential. Sparkr didn't play in the first half of last season, but when he finally came in, London managed to take Shock to map 5. If London weren't already mentally boomed and they couldve started with Sparkr, I bet they wouldve picked up a lot more wins. Lastly, I feel like Backbone is a dps a lot of people are really sleeping on. This guy was absolutely pooing in Contenders on Sheer Cold and later Ex Oblivione. He has also already worked with Spilo, one of the coaches. Man is nuts and can play a lot of heroes at a high level; I would put him AT LEAST on the same level as Naga. Support: This is probably the weakest link in the Spitfire, but still very solid. I dont think either Admiral or Landon have insane carry potential, but they are far from feeders and are a huge upgrade over Kellex and Ripa. Coaches: Spilo was already a great addition to the coaching staff made late in previous season when London was already doing badly. I think with a new team and a fresh start, he will be able to help them become a mid tier team. Christfer is arguably an even better addition with not only a huge ton of experience, but also some great results to back him up. Philly have consistently managed to do well with him as an assistant coach. He is now finally getting his chance to prove himself as head coach. Conclusion: London Spitfire are way better than people believe and I think they will finish around 15th, above teams like Vancouver, Boston and Charge.

[@BrofUJu]

Nah

[@S0LIDSNEK]

These boys got me dying today. OWL is so lucky to have this kinda supporting content.

[@Nicki1202]

Boston Uprising is a professional organization. They have 3 support players, MCD Crimzo double flex support and Faith as a really solid main support. Valentine is freed, he’s unshackled, he can finally play the flex roles that he actually wants to play, and he doesn’t have to be like this star performer against your ranked xQc duo im37 all the time. They‘ve rounded out literally every single hero in the tank department, they have it planned out. A team that signs 3 tanks, they’re trying to do something with it. They have 3 members to complete 1 single role - that‘s professionalism, right there.

[@ArcasCorricol]

"when he signed to the shanghai dragons as the hitscan, nobody batted an eye. nobody had a problem because they were like he's a very talented player, he will do well, he will develop on this dragons roster." nobody batted an eye because develop wasn't going to start over lip or fleta in any serious situation. the SHANGHAI DRAGONS signing develop was the news, not the shanghai dragons signing DEVELOP, and it wasn't that newsworthy anyways.

[@trentonmeeuwsen739]

Incoming bias for the fusion and against the defiant.

[@ryano3277]

Tbf you’re acting like the fusion hasn’t been better than the defiant every year

[@adamrooney5873]

@@ryano3277 okay but Fusion only have like 3 and a half (Carpe is the half) good players on their team.

[@sebastianrodrigues1400]

@@adamrooney5873 MN3 Zest Fury?

[@SeaStxrm]

As a Spitfire fan, we appreciate you Jonathan

[@hy3na739]

most underrated team: Seoul reason: I like tigers

[@briansteve884]

same

[@taekwonjeff]

it feels like (from the beta play) that with 1 less tank, hit scan is a must pick for every team comp. The amount of value a hero like soldier can get now is just astronomical. Additionally, tracer is going almost unchecked and unchallenged. The team with the best tracer and hitscan is going to win. As of right now i think the best tracer / hitscan duo might be kevster /ans or profit / fits

[@nyk2977]

You guys are seriously underrating the Boston Uprising. I've heard it been said numerous times that the Boston Uprising is a professional organization.

[@darthnick427]

Honestly, one of the better rankings they have made.

[@danlivesey9103]

i think gladiators might be a top 2 maybe even 1st this season because of the exceptional talent the have this season. I think if Ans is playing at the same/ better performance as what he did for the shock in 2020 he could carry the to victory especially with the new maps with all the sight lines and flanking routs, also with there being less shields Ans's widow could be the deciding factor for Gladiators. Also with the talent they have on the roster if the coaches and staff team can get them all to feed of each other energy and synergies correctly the team could be an unstoppable force however that comes down to how the team gels together.

[@matdoosh]

I agreed with you. Until they started shitting the bed at the last moment

[@Niko257x]

I feel like New York is a team that could improve over time. Roster moves mid season after good tank and main support players emerge in contenders or a change in the meta. Owl said that the late season is going to have more weight than the early season so...

[@CrazeeAdam]

Oh yeah that's the thing. All the teams playing small ball rosters i think are bound to pick up new people mid season. New York, Outlaws, Shock, Paris. These rosters as long as they have money or trade value could get more players for sure.

[@anicientbolt]

For me NYXL is the underrated team, I know they don't have a main support and that looks like it's gonna hurt but Kellen seems like a fine tank and yes I might be a Yaki simp but him and Flora can pound.

[@jasonmartin7968]

my favorite time of the year 🤩

[@arthurdunn4594]

Did Sideshow forget that after Chengdu finished fuckin about with their DPS rotations last year, Leave Jinmu was the permanent solution? Jinmu had a HUGE bounceback year

[@justinwillis2112]

I know it's a hot take but Vancouver is better than people are expecting them to be. If Lucio is going to be strong then Masaa will be able to carry. Shockwave and Aspire are nuts and just need a chance to prove it. I'm not saying Vancouver should be crazy high but I think they could be around 14-15.

[@catmoonkenobi]

If Valiant can be 15th, Titans can be 15th. But I think there's 3 main sections (top, middle, and bottom tier) in these rankings and everyone typically has everyone in the same spot. Titans at their peak could be 14-15 sure, but they're fighting against all the teams 14-20 (and maybe some mid-tier teams that shit the bed) for that spot. I think at least with the low-tier third they've got the order completely wrong, but I do agree with the teams in that third being in that third if that makes sense. No reason Titans couldn't be the "best of the worst" so to speak.

[@fatneckbeard7334]

?

[@shifter2979]

i think atlanta are gonna be good and gonna be even better then last year, cause first of all with an all english speaking roster (even vemon and hes korean) there communication is gonna be nuts, the synergy between ojee and uv is ridiculous, they have the leadership from gator (despite him being the only tank). and they pretty much have everything coverd in dps, kai is one the best hitscan players, vemon staight diffs everyone on tracer, i guess you make can make an argument of nero being a downgrade to pelican but thats not even gonna matter when speedily comes in and even then nero still gonna be a good player. i will always put atlanta above houston in 2022 and id even put them above shock too

[@bluesassault8006]

Lol Venom is good but he won’t diff the most elite Tracers and Speedily doesn’t even come in till mid way through stage 3.

[@adamw4712]

We’ve been waiting long enough

[@Bigshmin]

Rn I’m at 12 and I gotta say the bottom half of this list so far is very fair, only swaps I’d make would be Boston swapped with Valiant, Mayhem and Paris swapped and I think I’d put Justice at 10/11 ahead of the spark/defiant

[@jezraelflancia2460]

I think fusion > outlaws mostly bc the fusion are much more well rounded. They have a main and flex supp and a main and FURY off tank. Zest mn3 are a really good duo because they both have a good tracer and can cover almost every dps combo, with a carpe taking a backseat and can now just be a more focused player instead of having to flex. I feel like they have just enough flexibility to allow them to play most things well but not too much flexibility that their rotations will be wack like SF last year.

[@bronzy6700]

Custa is the Emporer Palpatine of this ranking! Sideshow is Anakin, Avast is Jar Jar (as usual), and Johnny is Obi Wan our saviour

[@JPz360]

Why does Sideshow look like he's going to sell me Shamwows at a Kmart in-store presentation?

[@NaruBrilu]

17:02 josh speaking my mind lol. That's exactly what i thought of when the bottom 5 conversation started. I may be a little bit biased (am a titans fan) but absolutely that's how you should think about it. Bcuz whether you like it or not owl is divided by region. So even if theoretically charge or valiant r better than titans (i still think that in even in this case titans would beat them), they will never directly challenge each other. Valiant is only going to verse apac competition. I would love it to be 17. Titans 18. Charge 19. Valiant 20. London Altho i think realistically it'll be 17. Charge 18. Titans 19. Valiant 20. London

[@celticsfan1554]

Charge are gonna surprise you

[@b1shop447]

Disclaimer: these predictions were sent to my friends in a discord server, as I am notorious for making awful takes. I didn’t give reasoning as it would take forever, so any question marks, feel free to ask in a reply. But yeah, this is just for fun, and I’m expecting to be proven very wrong :) Bishops 2022 owl predictions *Final standings* NA - 1. Dallas Fuel 2. Los Angeles Gladiators 3. Houston Outlaws 4. Atlanta Reign 5. Toronto Defiant 6. San Francisco Shock 7. Boston Uprising 8. Paris Eternal 9. Washington Justice 10. New York Excelsior 11. Florida Mayhem 12. Vancouver Titans 13. London Spitfire Apac - 1. Shanghai Dragons 2. Seoul Dynasty 3. Hangzhou Spark 4. Philadelphia Fusion 5. Chengdu Hunters (assuming the rumors are true, otherwise they are 3rd) 6. Los Angeles Valiant 7. Guangzhou Charge *Mid season tournament* Qualifying Teams - Dallas Shanghai Gladiators Seoul Houston Atlanta Spark Shock Toronto Chengdu Boston Paris Mid season tournament finals - Shanghai 4-1 Toronto *Playoffs* Top 4 - Shanghai Dallas Gladiators Seoul Grand finals - Seoul 4-2 Dallas **Awards** MVP candidates 1. Fits 2. Leejaegon 3. Twilight 4. Guxue 5. Kai 6. MCD 7. Space 8. Chorong 9. Pelican 10. Shy Rookie of the year - Chorong Coach of the year - KDG

[@VisElectra]

Let's talk about the Chengdu Hunters: - Mmonk already got to experience OW2 flex-support last year. I like him not having to share playtime with Farway again. - Nisha >>> Yveltal. Again I like him not having to share playtime. He'll be just fine. The support-line is probably the only part of this team that still excites me which is worrying because support is the least impactful role on the beta as of right now. - Leave: His signature hero is irellevant. Individually he will be fine playing some of the other heroes in his repertoire. But man this sucks for the team as a whole. - Jinmu: He must have improved his Sombra gameplay by quite a margine. Sure, he was decent in the past. But man this guy should not be in the league anymore. It hurts to see him stay while the org let go of Apr1ta. This also feeds into the "path to pro failed" narrative. With the removal of Apr1ta from the rost this DPS rotation went from perfect to above average at best. On a hot day Chengdu will still be able to win games against everyone in Apac except Shanghai. On a cold day however they will be really cold meaning teams like Seoul, Philly and potentially even the Spark will roll them and roll them hard! - G9ga heavily relied on Wrecking Ball and Winston (whilst getting Zarya bubbles and D.va matrix en masse) and played a solo-esk Orisa building his own little fort with his shield. He has been stripped of all these options. I really, really hope he embraces the power of Reinhardt and reworked Orisa, otherwise this guy is gonna get super-exposed this year. - Daizi: Liquipedia says it's Riven who shared some playtime with Off on Team Chaser next to Xray. The tank situation concerns me greatly. I did not like G9ga on anything but his Hammond last year and think he was massively overrated. He would often go in, soak up some damage and cooldowns and then die. The only major benefit he provided was that said cooldowns could not be burned on Leave or Mmonk or whoever was playing next to them at that time. Overall CHD should compete with Philly Fusion for 3rd rank, at worst they rank 4th over Spark. Everything else would be an enormous desaster. For all of the above reasons I have CHD as my pick for "team that's gonna implode mid-season". Really hated to write down the harsh truth, but someone had to do it. F to this once great franchise. All because of the f***ing Great Reset.

[@jacobhatton9725]

Leave doesnt have a signature hero.

[@tjcoleman7439]

Yeah, are you trying to say Leave's signature hero is tracer? Mans a hyperflex, and the reigning MVP, he can play just about anything. And just because Tracer is bad now doesn't mean that she will continue to be bad for the next 8 months

[@jadenrules100]

Im not even a Boston fan but i think Victoria is honestly gonna pop off this season

[@morgott320]

Yeah, why are people down on Victoria? Dude carried Uprising Academy at times and noone even knew him.

[@lancefisher8358]

As outlaws fan I'm just happy we're not bottom tier like and climbed into top 10 territory. All they need is another tank to be well rounded, Jake is most likely teaching Lastro main support so I'm not worried

[@PhaNtom_092]

Outlaws should be top 2 na after pummeling Dallas imo

[@lancefisher8358]

@@PhaNtom_092 true plus they took care of the main tank problem by throwing Danteh on Doom so their a solid pick, I had them over Dallas but not 3-0 😅🤌

[@marozid1]

2:05:13 - The reactions LOLOL

[@TheAstrobiologistOW]

It's amazing how London and Shanghai have fully switched places from season 1

[@Luis496]

Just to be a contrarian, I have a feeling between the Spark, Justice, Eternal one of this is gonna outperform massively.

[@brennian101]

Alright Sideshow I'll take your challenge. The worst placement on here could go to several teams, but I'm gonna pick the Spark. I think they suffer from a very similar argument that you guys made about the Justice in the fact that they didn't change up their coaching enough. This has always been a team with lot of talent on it with players such as Guxue and Shy, but time and time again the team is mismanaged and this leads to the team collapsing and underperforming.

[@Willow-uv9ms]

So...do you think Hangzhou should be higher or lower?

[@brennian101]

Lower of that wasn't clear

[@daxdleader719]

I think Chengdu is underrated. I'm surprised Hanzo wasn't mentioned as one of Jinmu's best heroes and I think a good Hanzo can be fine even in a double hitscan meta.

[@leonardopedroso8575]

About Seol... I think the role of tank will be like a DPS on steroids in this new 5v5 overwatch. If we think like this, Fits can play Doom. Smurf can play Winston, Rein, Orisa, Ball and Hog. Profit can play Zarya. The only tank we might have a problem with is Sigma, but I think Smurf can handle that. Anyways, Smurf is an amazing player, I won't be surprised if he plays well in all tanks. We can not forget that they DPS line has maked a big Grand finals against the all might SF Shock in 2020. Fits is a very great hitscan player and Profit is maybe top 5 DPS of all time of the League. Some says that he is the GOAT, and theres a point on this afirmation. I think the big interrogation point on this team is the supports. Lets be honest... Creative is a good player, but is not consistent. He can plays a good Ana, Moira and Zeny but his Baptiste its just ok. For what I've whatched of Countenders, Vindaim can play Brig, maybe Mercy and thats all. And we all know that Lucio it's gonna be a master pick on OW2. I think this is too little for this team. They need a player who can plays Lucio and even the heroes they can play are not in a high level to compete against outhers suport lines in the league. If Jonak was not retiring, I think we could espect more of Seol. Maybe they can sign someone more to the support line... But at this moment, Seol is not enough to compete against the bigest teams in the league.

[@ashdude3058]

Profit is top 1 dps in ow history and it’s not even that close tbh, the only person in the conversation is fleta but even then profit has done everything he has done and more

[@leonardopedroso8575]

@@ashdude3058 I tottaly agre

[@user-sr2uu8st3y]

9

[@jameswilson742]

u should do another one of these after watching all the teams and getting first impressions

[@Frankensteezy]

This is the best

[@stillpaker8124]

To counter Custas point about Striker retiring earlier. Birdring.

[@KingDanOfBarr]

I feel it is important to note that chungdu's supports might be even more suited to ow2 considering they already got the no peel treatment in ow1.

[@nikhilchhagan7371]

Funny but so true, off tank was always their weakest role

[@ToastySofa]

Haven’t watched OWL since season 2, seems like everyone has retired that I remember

[@landenthe70s]

charge will honestly surprise

[@M1R1ND4]

Love the london last pick 🙄

[@Bazz0li]

Did they ever complete the team previews ? I can't see the Mayhem or the Titans

[@jacob8789]

This is definitely a crazy hot take, but an idea not explored whatsoever during the show. In OW 2 there is a lot of work to be done by the DPS. If genji is as busted as people think, who is playing it on Shanghai? Fleta is a serviceable Genji, he’s a great player but he has proved several times that he cannot CARRY on genji. Then the vote goes to Overwatch League Champion, the only player to get role-star for the bench role, Whoru who hasn’t seen playtime in like 2 years! There is a chance he comes out and frags but I think there’s also a good chance he shits the bed like he did on NYXL. I can see a world where this hole leads to a dip in Shanghai’s performance a bit this year. I think there is a very valid argument for either Dallas or Glads above Shanghai, but because they are the 2021 champions they get a subconscious buy in to 1st seed Curious to hear what you guys think

[@DrElementary]

I think the Charge are going to be better than 17. They're not going to win anything serious, but their DPS is better than they've been given credit for, I still simp for Cr0ng (and they won't have to use Rio), and their supports don't pee on themselves (in fact, they will probably pee on other supports pretty frequently). There's no way they fall under the likes of Boston or NYXL. I can even see them higher than that, if everything hits right.

[@Nube7202]

Let’s go! Time for the permanent marker!

[@sethyoder7996]

I think the Titans are going to outperform expectations wildly. The only reason they're rated so low as of now and not given any credit is because of their past seasons and I think their DPS are way better than they're given credit and I'm actually pretty high up on False.

[@Nyxtia]

"Like a polished turd, perfectly rounded but all the innards are shite", holy shit this man is a genius

[@redknight100]

BOOKS FOR FUN IS NUMBER 1

[@marlisidro3341]

I believe that NYXL weren’t interested in any of the remaining main supports near the end of the off season and they just got vulcan so they can stall and kind of just swallow the mediocre start of the season to get someone that shines in the mid season.

[@Paradox1P]

Watching this now...holy shit the list is something alright.

[@masterchicken497]

mark my words boston will be at least 13th this season edit: finished the episode egg asked me to explain at the end punk and victoria underated as hell

[@tsumi5854]

Hawk has gone from being underrated to overrated.

[@NaruBrilu]

I feel like this power ranking is a pretty decent one. My only complaint is Valiant is overrated. Way to high up on the list

[@csw_kr3963]

Its like crime that Victoria doesn't get spotlight compare to rookies like Mn3, Zest, Phatipan which doesn't show much than him on tier2.

[@xxkfcrockersxx2001]

I seriously think that Toronto deserve a Top 10 spot this season. Hotba is a proven flexible player in the past that should be more likely to thrive playing a solo tank. Twilight and Chorong is a backline arguably equal to the Shock considering the reliance of main supports. While the DPS aren’t as strong Heesu really does have potential to be a star player if his coaches and teammates can give him the right support. This team could be better than Houston frankly as Piggy is mostly proven talented on Sigma and their backline lacking that main support and Iris having played nearly 90% Bap, a hero considered to be much weaker in the sequel.

[@xxkfcrockersxx2001]

Maybe they also forgot but both Hotba and Twilight were in the Plat Chat Top 10 players per their respective roles in OW1.

[@senior.toucan6370]

No, overwatch 2 is incredibly DPS depended and there DPS line is trash tier

[@Willow-uv9ms]

I would say that putting Chorong and Twilight equal to Shock's backline is actually underrating them. If Twilight is competing with Finn and Chorong is competing with V1olet's Lucio, then I would totally take Toronto

[@harveyweir8061]

hotba is "flexible" onto tracer lmao, we've never seen him play main tanks and his sigma is meh.

[@MichaelMarques]

In season 1, Dragons were last and London was first.

[@spiderwasp237]

I remember an Avalla tweet where she said jmac's english is good enough now to where she doesn't have to translate much anymore

[@leetebbens8858]

these power rankings actually somehow predicted all the teams who qualified

[@brazzb761]

they scoffed at the dallas 3rd/4th but after today, i can buy that

[@aryansingh2199]

boston uprising very underrated... boston uprising is a professional organisation they sign three tanks beacuse game has one less tank now

[@mareksicinski3726]

2:27:02 depends what counts as coherent

[@blueberrymuffin36]

genuinely the longer jonny argued in favor of the boston uprising the more convinced i was that they should be in 20th place

[@NickIsBlasted]

We saw the Sparkle tracer last year, its time for the Jinmu tracer

[@leetebbens8858]

Boston should put out an Uprising colored tuxedo tshirt with "Professional Organization" on the back.

[@ratchetst3v38]

All in all, I just wish we had more preseason stuff from OWL (not those random scrims) to showcase the teams/new players AND make the 5v5 look better; the power rankings just seem like meme fests with so many "what if's" running around.

[@SE7VENprod]

IM on the hard LONDON COPIUM i belive we can push for the 15th Because 1) Ping diffrence was bad last season not enough to push up to top 15 but it is a factor 2)Poko could be suited to overwatch 2 he is no way the best in his class but his Sigma may be a deciding factor if the meta leans that way

[@SeaStxrm]

Hard agree, I mean come on surely the only way is up from last season, hooking up to that copium bro

[@CallmeRoth]

Defiant could have Dragons roster and platchat would still burry them and how is Shock even in the top 10 with all the question marks on them.

[@SomFX3]

CEO of microphones going above and beyond here

[@petermain6791]

Coherent arguement, eh...? I think Defiant have been slightly underrated, but the reasoning is on you fellas. During your discussion about Toronto, my understanding is that they have average tanks, potentially above average DPS, but a backline that could be in contention for best in league. The point was made that because the initial feeling for OW2 is that support's ability to contribute is limited, they could not be rated higher due to other role's player limitations. When the discussion moved into the top 10, especially Fusion/Outlaws/Hunters, all of a sudden the support heroes and their impact became an important factor. Not twenty minutes before you had dismissed the impact of supports, and suddenly they were being discussed as if they were much more valuable than other roles. You need to decide whether or not you believe supports can play a leading role in a team's fortunes; you can't have it one way for one team, then another way for the next. With that said, I would have comfortably moved Defiant up to 9-10 on the list.

[@WaylanderLloyd]

No one talking about the fact Spark have to run a Chinese/Korean support line, which historically has always been Sparks issue. All the talent but could never bridge that mixed roster divide.

[@christianward2425]

I’m like the list overall, but I think Atlanta and Glads top Dallas. I am of the view point that season one of OW2 will play out as chaotic as seasons one of OW1. Which means that in between meta shifts the constant that will come back to any shooter game is that hitscan will be dominant the majority of the season. OW2 is more of a shooter than Ow has ever been. Hitscan will be the most important dps role for the majority, and then dps as a whole. I personally believe the best all around dps trio out of the top of teams goes in order, dragons > reign > glads > Dallas. All are cracked but I can’t see a world in which hitscan being dominant that Dallas can compete with the other three. And personally think that the top 2 hitscans at the end of next year will be Lip, and Kai. I don’t think Ans will be able to stay in that circle this year. And I don’t think doha, sparkle, or guriyo can even dream about it. As far as the other roles, for the majority of the season, fleta and sparkle have to play every game, glads have kevster/pataphan which I believe to be very slightly better maybe than venom/Nero. And when speedily comes in I think he gaps pataphan more than kevster gaps venom. Hawk is better than space, even if only by stats for the last 2 seasons. Hanbin is amazing but on the decline while the others are not. I think Dallas still have the best tank duo over all. And glads have the best support duo although out of bias I would argue that ultraviolet/ojee has the potential to be the best duo at the end of the league. Finale point would be, dragons are best all around and deserve 1st in power rankings, but glads have the best supports, Dallas has best tanks, Atlanta at the end of the season and probably during the majority of the season have best dps with Kai as the carry. And I think dps will by far be the most impactful role in the more shooter version of overwatch we are going into. So my power rankings are the same except top 5 goes Dragons Atlanta Dallas Glads Shock (Side note, anyone who thinks fits/profit is better than Kilo/Propper is an overwatch boomer and probably still thinks pine/birding would be an auto win. Shocks dps are better.

[@noahmccormick369]

I still think they’re good, but my hot take is that Atlanta is being a little overrated and they slightly downgraded from last year

[@King-yyy]

2:25:52 didnt rush win coach of the year last year?

[@jrams4145]

Custa defending Guangzhou side by side with Johnny defending Boston shows the difference between a hot take and copium perfectly

[@aerograd]

Think Shock might need to be higher this season. If anything, they needed to be numbe 6 last season.