Play Out Of Position LIKE THE PROS - 1 Crucial Poker Tip

[@DexterPlastic419]

If im playing against thinking players ill over bet with the nuts in position on the river sometimes. When you get hero called it pays well. It looks bluffy so players try to pic it off. And if they call and the table sees the nuts you can use the over bet as a bluff tool threw the session.

[@dchevron77]

Great thoughts!

[@chauncieextreme8514]

I find a fold for 450 invested and so many combinations of hands that beat you, but good call

[@christianbache4074]

"Woudnt be going buckwild" classic Bart 😁

[@trdi]

This caller is on a completely different level. Probably top 5 player in the world. He doesn't think about combos at all. He "feels" everything. It's the "feeling" type of a player, the most dangerous one. He felt that villain floated the flop. He felt that he wanted him to fold the river. He felt that villain improved on the turn. This guy is something else.

[@eshootziscrs2868]

Define "feel" in the context. What you might be saying is the player cannot articulate reasoning therefore might not be able to communicate to others what might be sound reasoning. Then again he also cannot demonstrate the reasoning to be sound because he only uses emotional rationalization to justify a conclusion. Or maybe he just suffers from "gas" and misinterprets "bubbles" as unexplainable feelings? Want to test feelings, flip a coin.

[@Ryan-ix2zx]

Like a Mike Postle

[@Godvernment]

When you get good enough at counting combos there actually does come a point where you don’t have to literally count them it becomes a feeling. So maybe you’re not as good as you think you are and are just being a snobby doink

[@trdi]

@@Godvernment O rly? Looking forward to you explaining how this "git gud" works with knowing that villain has a low equity hand on such wet flop. And you don't have to make realistic assumptions at all. Just imagine it's the best player in the world. How exactly does this best player in the world come to such a conclusion through nothing but pure logic?

[@DuddyToh3]

He won the pot lol 🤷🏽‍♂️🤣

[@ishkabibblemoskowitz2899]

It was so nice to meet you at Parx last Friday. Sorry I fan girled out on you but I watch your videos everyday and appreciate what you've done for my game. Hope you had a good time while you were there

[@CrushlivePoker]

girled me out? Thats a new one!

[@iamamish]

@@CrushlivePoker "fan girled"

[@ishkabibblemoskowitz2899]

@CrushlivePoker You weren't in the room 2 seconds before I accosted you🤣 Being from NYC originally, I saw famous ppl all the time and never cared. It was really out of character for me and felt like a giant nerd but like I said, I appreciate all you do so I geeked-out🤓

[@MrJabbafett]

I would totally fan girl out if I saw Bart irl

[@DoubleBassX2]

@@MrJabbafett I met Scotty Nguyen in like 2015 and I remember posting a status about it specifically using the same phrase "fan girled".

[@mackwilkins5167]

I’ve been in this exact same spot before against a fairly good reg I’m friendly with, exact same action, almost identical board and runout, playing slightly deeper in an uncapped 5/5 game, pot was a bit larger but not too significantly. The river jam was for just over pot instead of 2x. I remember this hand vividly and watching this video was crazy given the insane alignment. I ended up folding river and villain shows KK with the nut blocker. I XR’d because this opponent wasn’t folding an OP to me on somewhat brick runouts. It was a very good bluff and I think fold is the long term play against the general field. Nice content Bart.

[@carloscardona8425]

So many of these callers have almost very little analysis of the player type they are up against and spend far too much time analyzing the possibilities. When playing live it’s usually far more valuable to pay attention to ALL the hands you do NOT play bc this will give u so much info on your opponents and what they are and are not capable of!

[@DaveFu]

I primarily play live cash these days and I am anti anything that would distract you from getting live reads as soon as possible. No headphones etc. I typically think of the worst winning play in a giving moment and accuse someone of making it (rivered bottom 2 vs. an overpair), "Show us, I love it when 72o gets there on the river" then take note of anyone who thinks I'm serious or anyone who laughs because they figure out I'm leveling. Listen to anyone who is talk "strategy" while never doing it yourself etc.

[@carloscardona8425]

@@DaveFu Exactly!!! My friend plays full time for a living and plays w ear pods and even watches movies and he wonders why he can’t beat any game other than $2-5NL. Smfh

[@DaveFu]

@@carloscardona8425 I think it comes back to forgetting that the goal is to suck less than the rest of the table and not do everything you can to convince your ego, you're the best. The higher you go, the more regs and competent regs are at your table. Especially if you're putting in max volume. Being attentive and personable is +EV. Berkey's documentary on youtube is about this. A grinder that is stuck.

[@carloscardona8425]

@@DaveFu if ur not willing to do the work it takes to improve in every facet of the game then ur doomed to playing smaller stakes and that limits the money you can make to about $50K per year roughly. You have to study theory, hand analysis, solvers, sims, and of course how to glean information in a live setting. But def making urself an asset in a live game thru being personable, likable, fun and entertaining is sometimes more valuable than other factors. Too many grinders are so quite and closed off at the tables that it def affects their earn bc the action players hate losing their money to those types. But if ur fun to play w even the biggest fish will be cool with donating bc he is enjoying playing with u!!

[@DaveFu]

@@carloscardona8425 Yeah I've never been coached, my only poker uncle died about 12 years ago and was a prop player. Minus YT, 2+2. and about 70+ books, I'm self taught. So I've never gotten tired of hearing people talk poker. Plus if they talk about themselves you can understand how they think and how likely they are currently playing their A game. One general takeaway I believe in is that knowing principles and strategies is absolutely important but effectively prioritizing them to game conditions is probably MORE important.

[@rhpmike]

This is the kind of thing that is really hard to learn from because Hero ends up being correct, but IMO that is not good hand-reading for a 10-10 game. Hero is placing a lot of stock in the fact that river bet is big (2x) but we need to remember that hero played this as a x/r on the flop and a turn lead. When someone is signaling strength like this, it's right to shove river for value here often and it's just not true that with the nuts V is only betting 75-100% of pot. It's always hard to address calls that are primarily, "I just didn't feel like..." because now we are getting into live reads and it's nearly impossible to disagree. But, if we focus on the hand, villain actually should have a lot of value here. Many of the bluffs that hero imagines should not actually be in V's range. V does have some natural bluffs (q9cc for example) but it is important to practice hand reading based on what the villain should have in their range, not just things like "With the way he threw in the chip I don't feel like ..." Live tells can be helpful on close decisions, but you cannot just build completely nonsensical ranges out of thin air because of a feeling you have. Given that it was first hand of the session, even stranger to put so much emphasis on feelings. In case the hero is reading this, I don't want to just totally sh*t on him. First, nice pot! Second, beyond a look on the hand-reading process, I think it might be helpful to shore up your decision making process on betting. I think Bart has a lot of good videos on why we bet. For example, you have some inconsistent logic between your flop check and your flop check-raise. At other times, it seems unsure whether you are looking for a call or a fold. Either way, you scooped the pot, got a mini coaching session with Bart, and it sounds like you're looking to get back into poker. Welcome back and keep on upskilling. You got this!

[@newstandardaccount]

I saw the video and had many of the same thoughts. It's unfortunate that these hands on the call in show all suffer from selection effects, and it is really easy to learn the wrong lessons here. I think folding here has way higher EV than calling. One thing I wish Bart would talk about more often - ask hero what *his* table image is. Callers spend so much time talking about whether the villain is a fish, or a whale, but comparatively little time is spent on the hero's perceived table assessment of the hero. This matters because hero in the call goes on about how the river bet is too large to be made for value - the implication is that the villain thinks nobody would call such a large bet. But, hero did call! In this case it doesn't matter because the villain was bluffing, but a hidden aspect of these hands is that villain may well have a read on hero, but that information will never surface on the show.

[@captzachevil]

I leaned toward calling watching this hand play out myself. It's a difficult spot that was set up by overplaying bottom two pair by check raising the flop though.

[@spenceringermanson4385]

This is a good hand to learn from.. one that seems like you smash but you really don't.. it's extremely wet but essentially you just have SDV and there are not a lot of hands that will fold to a raise. A solver is calling flop 91% of time.

[@pocketrocket2158]

What’s sdv

[@spenceringermanson4385]

@@pocketrocket2158 show down value.. all you have is SDV here, it's hard to improve..on such a wet board you are just wanting to get to the river.

[@moaf2padventures757]

the caller didnt do a great job of articulating his thoughts but i do agree with the general thought process. i think villain will absolutely be polarized here. most people just simply arent using this overbet size for thin value. so in my mind that will rule out a lot of overpairs, two pairs, sets and even straights. that polarizes villain to basically just "air" (that will mean turning a lot of 1 pair + missed draw hands into bluffs) and flushes. i think any 2 pair is probably a reasonable call here. as counterintuitive as it probably sounds, i think you are much more scared of a 1/3 to 1/2 pot size on this river when you have bottom two than you are of an overbet jam.

[@markussch.2417]

Why didnt you agree on the K of Spades, J offsuit bluff ? What made you rule out this combo from villian?

[@CapLobo]

Sick call by hero 👏

[@grandpatzer]

Nice call dude

[@sox33724]

Bart’s face at 7:47 😂

[@justinp2149]

Love your work Bart! A quick q: you said in a vid on CLP in 2016, “On a K-high flop 2 or 3-handed, I'll usually lead out with anything and usually take it down since my opponents will mostly have missed. I think this is a hidden profitable spot that most people miss.” Would your advice still be the same in 2023 please?

[@iamdavidjacob3560]

I find in my games, K high flops do get folded more often than Ace high flops when I cbet

[@justinp2149]

@@iamdavidjacob3560 Bart is talking about leading here tho.

[@RB-lc8lh]

What is "MTD" that Bart refers to at least twice?

[@davidlangley5533]

MDF, minimum defence frequency

[@guitargallery2375]

Great content as usual 💪💪💪

[@andrewblack2168]

Great video great caller and great call dude 💪 I'm in agreeance, river bet just wanted you to fold.. as soon as he asked how much you got, I'd definitely call. That's a pause from nervousness while he gets his balls together to actually make the bluff

[@thaThRONe]

1st I probably fold on the river because there aren't a lot of bluffs in this situation. With that said I rarely jam on rivers (unless I feel pretty confident my opponents is a fairly big nit). I usually try to make my sizing seems like a large value bet. There's something psychological about all ins that make them seem bluffy to a lot of players. Plus as Bart said if a large over bet isn't going to get your opponent to fold I doubt an all in changes it. As mentioned often times it'll be the one thing that gets a player who would have otherwise folded to actually find the call button.

[@EllieBanks333]

This was a very interesting hand. I really enjoyed the discussion. I agreed with a lot of the callers thinking... except when he said "I could easily have the flush". While it is not impossible for someone to get "tricky" with a flush here, no one is ever putting you on spades when you check-raise flop, barrel turn, & then check river when the spade hits. But I did agree with his thought that the sizing was a "tell". It's also not like villain went big, he went like 185% pot. That has got to have significant fold equity. So why do that with a flush? And does a straight really get here like this & then take that size? When it's very hard to put villain on a hand that fits his betting line, it's often a bluff.

[@Stockhandle123]

My guy this is the exact bet i make with both the nut flush and the nut flush blocker.

[@HQpointofview]

You're going to Parx on Monday?! I might see you there!

[@joshuapatrick682]

So to me a flop raise represents a hand like jacks up + and a few drawing hands...is bottom two pair strong enough to check raise that flop? I would say no.

[@hoopaholik91]

I think this call is a good example of players convincing themselves to call way too often to overbets.

[@sensiv]

Ohh woow. I thought villian had like AT or QT of spades. Nice call!

[@stefancopicuk]

Im surprised Bart seems ok with the xr on such a dynamic board. OOP id be looking to keep the pot under control, not ballooning it and then facing a really tough close call decision OOP for all my chips. Caller won way more than I would have so there you go. He did also open up the possibility of losing way more too though.

[@stefancopicuk]

Also what was it exactly that the title says " I have to learn"?

[@Gos1234567]

@@stefancopicuk Yes what was the tip we need to learn??? They are always doing this on CLP! Some "need to know tip" and its never revealed !!!!🥵

[@iamdavidjacob3560]

​@@stefancopicuk it's for the algorithm. Dona worry about it.

[@tyshaffer3771]

Where do we call in hands? I have a super good hand

[@jonduberman2573]

How about a bet/fold the river with like 300 sizing, almost like a big block but to get a crying call from an ace or a jack who just might not want to let it go, but it prevents a big bluff like this?

[@squallloky]

I'm probably jamming this because your line has little to no flushes, especially if I have a hand like KK, QQ, Jx with a spades or AK/AQ with a spades or bricked Jx of clubs. There are a lot of logical bluffs that block a lot of the thick value here and it's easy to make you fold anything that isn't a straight with a spade or flushes here.

[@matthewbeard752]

I wonder if your having bought in for less than the max affected villain's decision to bluff all-in? Often, asking opponent's stack size then shoving big seems designed to induce a call; often successfully.

[@MCFoultier]

That is some serious donk-on-donk violation... To summarize heros thought process: Flop: lets check thats what you do. Hm have two pair lets raise. Turn: damnit, I dont want him to bluff me, I'll show him and blow him off! River: shit, now I'm fucked, I check. Damnit damnit damnit, but I cant fold two pair, lets call Bart afterwards to complain how unlucky I got. Driving home: lets still call Bart to show how smart I am

[@TG-rx8kd]

AQ offsuit with the A of spades

[@ryanjones4150]

Interesting hand. I always defer to Bart, he's the man, but if I use my CLP training, the button opening range is very wide and can contain a lot of pair plus straight draws, or gut shot backdoors or the kind of hand he actually had. I think a better hand than the hero's might raise the turn - flopped straight, aces up set etc. So, I think that there are too many combos of bluff type hands that get to the river and you have to call, yes there are lots of spade combos that you lose to, but there are a lot of draw hands that brick and can't beat 2 pair.

[@spenceringermanson4385]

I disagree. Because hes IP he is uncapped. He shouldn't be raising any hands on the turn other than KQ (so says my solver anyway).

[@702couch]

The over bet on the river made me fill he was trying to pull off the bluff. If he hit his draw I think his bet would have been sized smaller.

[@sendy5220]

Where do you submit hands for these reviews?

[@fozsilrodriguez]

1/3 player here and your right Bart I’ve bluffed a bet like 20 in a pot of 100+ when a flush comes and people have folded

[@Aceinlife]

Y or y not a blocker bet from the hero recommended on the river?

[@SerErryk]

I'm not raising the flop specifically for the purpose of not getting blown off the pot.

[@stefancopicuk]

Same.

[@Paul_pp]

People are mocking the caller in the comments but He should be proud of himself for making the call. The villian was trying to represent the flush because Hero made it obvious with the river check that he did not have it himself. Calling a big over sized bet in a tough spot and being right is probably the best feeling in poker. Anyone can win with the nuts. We need people to be happy about their poker play it's good for the game but haters in the comments want everyone to be miserable like them and wonder why the games they play in suck.

[@chefmikeankh6434]

Two questions… how do you get your hand on Crush Live Poker? Also , how do these guys remember these hands to run it back to Bart?

[@MustangScott]

Man Parx Casino has tons of call ins haha

[@schroederluck7984]

It’s funny how solvers think differently than humans regarding bet size - it worked out for Hero here by sniffing out the abnormal bet size, but very often the solver goes for all the chips when it has a massive hand. It places less weight on “what can I bet to get called by worse”, which was Hero’s logic as to why he called, and more along the lines of “I have the nuts, I want all the chips”. There’s a lesson in here in live poker to bet big when you have it - people often just won’t believe you.

[@JasonEmerson711]

The more thinking of the player (opp), the more crazy and innovative you need to get with your pure hands (polarized). This won't apply to most opponents, it's more of the abberation than the norm. Point is....stick with a good strategy and be able to do small deviations according to your opponents.

[@anilyzerr]

haha I almost never make that call, even against the local notorious maniac

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

why is this vid auto HD 1080p? i don't need that definition on bart's face! all my other vids are at 240

[@Theman26642]

Tough thing about amateur players is most don’t know proper sizing or value bets. When they make a big hand on the river, they’ll often jam.

[@PokrRat777]

I disagree with the caller regarding the bet sizing. If this was a smaller game I'd understand his scepticism. Low-stakes players are much more ABC. However, in a 10/10 game, I'm expecting to be playing with competent regs, who aren't afraid to mix it up and go for max value because they know that you know they are polarizing and that you will finds some hands to defend with that are not the nuts. If I got to this spot with the nut flush or a missed draw with good blocking properties, I would strongly consider jamming, since my opponent is going to get here with a lot of hands that are tough to lay down.

[@caymanchronicles4753]

I would be more likely to call because he asked how much you had behind before he shoved for 2x pot. There's no reason to ask how much you have if hes going to make it 2 times the pot that Makes any sense other than trying to make sure that you're not pot committed already with a short stack before bluffing

[@Daniel-fo9jf]

This is such a bad board for hero I don't know how you can check raise this. Villain's range and nut advantage is huuuuuge

[@terriblebhop]

First hand he’s ever seen the villain play “he seemed like a pretty aggressive player”

[@AT-bw4cm]

His logic was all over the place. Sounds like alot of revisionist thinking. He didn't want to just call the flop bet and not know what to do if villain continued on turn, so he check raised because he wanted to take the betting lead. Yet he is comfortable bluff catching a 2x river shove.

[@terriblebhop]

@@AT-bw4cm I’ll never judge someone for playing a hand badly. We all do it. But I will call out a horribly played hand, and this was one of those hands. Thankfully his opponent didn’t know where he was at either.

[@stevenanderson7046]

Damn hero has balls of steel

[@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1]

I actually like being out of position sometimes because it lets you bluff quicker than the other person

[@troymcjessy7493]

Oof

[@eshootziscrs2868]

Gus Hansen, it's not first to act, it's first to bluff.

[@jbarres80]

What makes poker so great is players are playing Multiple types of poker some are the gto others that are good people readers can sometimes play by feeling or there gut we all see some wacky stuff that makes zero sense at the table

[@pokerqAK47]

Caller played this hand like a fish. Overplayed bottom 2 oop.

[@kudelm]

kJ club

[@tomrichardson9799]

I walked into south point casino years ago after dropping my son off for a business meeting. I’d never played poker there and was killing time for a few hours until he was finished. I bought in for $300 in a 1-2 game and sat down around 4:00 pm with what looked like regs. They tried pushing me off hands several times by going all over in. The way the hands were played they should never have had the best hand. After 3 hours I cashed out for $2,200. Never try to push out a thinking player.

[@drfunkinstein1]

I'd just fold the river here. Looks like opponent ran into a flush and hopes I have a straight or set and make a call.

[@patrickjordan2233]

The voice sounds kinda like Johnny V? Can't remember where Johnny grew up...🤔🤔? Bluffs? KsKo, a lot... Qs,Qo with a small frequency?.. I'll be back after reveal... Edit: well, I missed that guess... although a KcJc would make a sense? Kc9c makes more sense, V would know he has no showdown when Clubs brick (given CR flop from hero...)

[@fateaglio]

No his voice is different

[@patrickjordan2233]

@@fateaglio I know it's not Johnny, but just reminds me, especially accent...👍

[@Gos1234567]

So where is the crucial poker tip?? Cmon Bart dont clickbait us !😁

[@Forever31-u7k]

Villian jams on spades cos he's reading you don't have at least a strait 🤔🤷

[@jamesbell1613]

Yeah I don't think you can ever shove the river in that spot, except as a raise.

[@HoneyBadger_DontGive_F]

Everything got there, let it go.

[@DaveFu]

Always Sunny In Philly.....until it isn't! #BartMoneyIsHardMoney

[@sampsonsyring8892]

Are these the players I’m loosing too 😂😂😂

[@flybone100]

Parx on Friday 3/3? Maybe I'll show my face.

[@Darwizzy966]

the meet up was this past Friday unfortunately

[@flybone100]

@@Darwizzy966 Story of my life, day late and dollar short. I don't always catch the live stream. :/ Wah wah

[@Darwizzy966]

@@flybone100 lmao I know how it goes sometimes

[@CrushlivePoker]

I was there!

[@flybone100]

@@CrushlivePoker Next time, I promise! :D

[@denniss420]

This guy has a lot of "feelings" lol

[@supersmoo7377]

I’m only halfway done with the video but the caller sounds like he is trying to teach Bart how to play poker… these callers should act a little more like students willing to learn, rather than acting like they know as much as Bart does.

[@TJayClark2]

I'll never understand why some of these players enjoy lighting money on fire with these terrible bluffs. Asking how much someone has, then jamming $3,000 into a $1500 stack would immediately cause me to call and single pair... let alone 2 pair hand. Also, idk what the point of bluffing this was? What on earth would the villian put the hero on here, since he was the aggressor. Why would he fold at the end to almost any river card? Pot equity much?

[@KraphtOne]

Bart’s in a shit mood… good call sir

[@joshuacolemam9168]

Lmao poker is hard

[@raimanyuh]

Absolute whale call off hahahahaha

[@joey-rr4xm]

I've learned one thing in the 25 years of playing holdem, and that is you will always lose if you are an unlucky person!,literally, I can flop open ended straight flush draw , run it 3x and lose every time. Flop top set, and lose to a legit 1 outer since guy to my right folded one of the 10s and opponent had pocket 10s! I run so bad lately in this current home game. Really starting to think there is some.cheating going on. Same people always finding a way to hit miracle cards way too often! And unfortunately my local casino got rid of holdem when covid hit and decided to n ot reopen the poker room! .