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@SpeakOnFS1
@SpeakOnFS1 5 жыл бұрын
Is player control helping or hurting the NBA?
@Sammy-kx4lh
@Sammy-kx4lh 5 жыл бұрын
Speak For Yourself hurting
@signsofthetimestvhq1134
@signsofthetimestvhq1134 5 жыл бұрын
Do the Math. Nba generates 8 billion between 450 players will the NFL makes 16 billion off of 2500 players. NBA makes more money per player
@BNSF2012
@BNSF2012 5 жыл бұрын
Helping I love it
@BNSF2012
@BNSF2012 5 жыл бұрын
Helps
@WiscoFisherman93
@WiscoFisherman93 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion I think it hurts the league. Theres always 4 or 5 teams that are real contenders while the other 25 teams in the league are just there for the sake of being there. The lack of parity is extremely obvious. In the NFL there is much more parity which I feel helps a tremendous amount.
@robertofranciscor.beltran5588
@robertofranciscor.beltran5588 5 жыл бұрын
Let's not act like every player in the NBA can decide where they want to go. It's only the star players that have that power.
@deesee2051
@deesee2051 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not true at all players can decide where they want to play that’s what free agency is for
@robertofranciscor.beltran5588
@robertofranciscor.beltran5588 3 жыл бұрын
@@deesee2051 Tell that to guys like Jeremy Lin.
@deesee2051
@deesee2051 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertofranciscor.beltran5588 he was a free agent before and got paid by Houston which was his choice
@robertofranciscor.beltran5588
@robertofranciscor.beltran5588 3 жыл бұрын
@@deesee2051 That occurred once in his career. He was hot at that time because this was right after Linsanity. After that, he went to teams who would have him. Now, he's in China.
@jeffduncan7381
@jeffduncan7381 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't even watched and I know Whitlock will be gargling the balls of the ownership..
@joshrodriguez4154
@joshrodriguez4154 5 жыл бұрын
Jason is right! Players have to much power
@RBZ-1
@RBZ-1 5 жыл бұрын
nailed it...gargling a mouth full of em. And forget this argument of player's power to move. Once all contracts include a no-trade clause, then we'll talk about a commodity being forced to remain in a situation where they would rather not be.
@TheKondinho
@TheKondinho 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshrodriguez4154 players are the primary product, they deserve the power they have
@fcdl61
@fcdl61 5 жыл бұрын
Whitlock is also a small market basketball fan. As a Pacers fan, he understand how tough it is to be a small market fan.
@cantonbelford1903
@cantonbelford1903 5 жыл бұрын
And you know this.🤷🏾‍♂️
@AcerbicOrder
@AcerbicOrder 5 жыл бұрын
Whitlock is full of it and contradicts is own argument. Blake Griffin scenario was the perfect example. Clippers made a spectacle of resigning him...a cheesy social media type proposal with a fake ceremony hanging his jersey in the rafters only to trade him 6 months later. If you think that's ok then asking for a trade should be too.
@Youngindy21
@Youngindy21 5 жыл бұрын
The difference is the only teams doing things like that are in the Big Markets like Boston where they know they can easily get more star players. What small market team did something like that?
@raulvillanueva4175
@raulvillanueva4175 5 жыл бұрын
The thing is he is still getting paid. NBA players are literally employed to keep the fans happy so that they can keep on buying jerseys, merch, etc.. it's a privilege to play in the NBA so if a owner thinks it's best to trade said player then it should be fine as long as he is doing it for the right reasons.
@Opinlinz
@Opinlinz 5 жыл бұрын
Acerbic So if you had a business and promised your employees job security but 6 months later a billion dollar offer was given to you to sell your business. You mean to tell me you wouldn't take the offer?
@raulvillanueva4175
@raulvillanueva4175 5 жыл бұрын
@Yonis Ali so then why else are they employed? Because the owners enjoy paying basketball players millions just to watch them play?
@camerondrain8166
@camerondrain8166 5 жыл бұрын
Raul Villanueva the clippers are still getting paid too. So if they can trade him he can ask to be traded. Both are going to be paid
@0P9ine
@0P9ine 5 жыл бұрын
Iv'e heard in so many interviews how nfl players, especially ex-nfl players, say they would rather play basketball if they could do it over again
@Brewern07
@Brewern07 5 жыл бұрын
NFL players said that because NBA contracts are guaranteed.
@0P9ine
@0P9ine 5 жыл бұрын
@@Brewern07 All about playing smart not hard
@kennethscott621
@kennethscott621 5 жыл бұрын
Whitlock is just playing the bad guy. NBA basketball players are not technically employees, their independent contractors.
@Opinlinz
@Opinlinz 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if you deem them independent contractors because they sign a contract for that team and in that contract they are ask to perform for set business. If those players don't like being traded they could ask for a no trade clause
@ebhs0089
@ebhs0089 5 жыл бұрын
National Basketball Association basketball players
@camerondrain8166
@camerondrain8166 5 жыл бұрын
OpenLinz oh and they kinda do have a no trade request clause because when you get traded you can't sign as big of a contract.
@Opinlinz
@Opinlinz 5 жыл бұрын
@@camerondrain8166 You are mixing up no trade clause with a contract extension for a player who has been traded to a new team. That's not the same thing. If a player gets traded to a new team he has to be with that team over 1 season in order to receive the max extension
@ruttc
@ruttc 5 жыл бұрын
@@Opinlinz In the NBA you can only get a no trade clause after you have been in the league 8 years. And after that you will have to be with a team 4 years before you enter in talks for a no trade clause.
@bluewave3417
@bluewave3417 5 жыл бұрын
The whole "business owners" argument Whitlock is making doesn't really apply. The players don't just work for the owners. They ARE the product. That's a totally different set up. So that logic he's using comes up short.
@bluewave3417
@bluewave3417 5 жыл бұрын
@TheMrProtocol so when people are buying jerseys and wearing player sponsored shoes that's not the players driving that? If the game is the product then its produced by the players. Kids on the basketball courts emulate Steph Curry. It's the players that shape their concept of what the game is.
@mmiller7615
@mmiller7615 5 жыл бұрын
@Jihad Da God Haha. Great point. We watch the NBA for the players. Period. You can go to your local LA Fitness or The Y and watch basketball for free. You wouldn't dare pay money to watch has-been, former college and high school players and teenagers play pickup ball.
@CouchCit
@CouchCit 5 жыл бұрын
@TheMrProtocol Dude, I can go to the park and watch the game be played for free, or go play myself, for free. The product is the NBA, not the sport of basketball, and they offer top shelf product in comparison to other offerings. The product is more than just the players, but the players are the heart of it and without them you really don't have a mvp (minimum viable product)
@eugenekim4648
@eugenekim4648 5 жыл бұрын
Kareem demanded a trade from Milwaukee. Barkley demanded a trade from Philadelphia. These guys act like any of this is new.
@YourJamaicanChief
@YourJamaicanChief 5 жыл бұрын
Sports is not the same as every regular jobs
@alicabdallah9297
@alicabdallah9297 5 жыл бұрын
Is this big guy saying it's ok for a team to trade you but you have no right to go where you want ? Some people are 👤
@calw8085
@calw8085 5 жыл бұрын
players are tired of being legal slaves lol. Masters own the players, send them to the next master when you not wanted to see what your new master can do with you and what they can get for you.
@alicabdallah9297
@alicabdallah9297 5 жыл бұрын
Jewelz did the contract existed when they signed and traded clipper's Blake Griffen after 1yr , it's a two-way street stop fuking the players and they will stop ruining your plans
@alicabdallah9297
@alicabdallah9297 5 жыл бұрын
Jewelz stop hating only cause they in a better position than you are doesn't mean you should side with the devils
@ballinglikeimtobe4920
@ballinglikeimtobe4920 5 жыл бұрын
The league is in the best shape it's been in for a while.
@bigballer6198
@bigballer6198 5 жыл бұрын
Not true. Over social media maybe. 4-5 teams draw all the revenue and the rest are going to be underwater.
@fcdl61
@fcdl61 5 жыл бұрын
Only on the coast. Small markets serve as farm systems today. Big markets don’t need draft picks when they can persuade superstars to play there so they just shovel out picks for trades.
@slayer45637
@slayer45637 5 жыл бұрын
@@bigballer6198 Exactly and limited player movement is supposed to remedy that. If nothing changes only 5 teams will be relevant.
@Youngindy21
@Youngindy21 5 жыл бұрын
Not really. Small markets like Memphis, New Orleans, Indiana, OKC, Orlando, Charlotte, Phoenix, etc. can't really compete for championships. The league is not in good shape.
@dnn32
@dnn32 5 жыл бұрын
Adam silver would fix it by proposing a limitation of superstars going in one team via free agency, set in place a grading system of players like superstar, star, role player etc...., and imposing a 4 or 5 year rookie contract to be fully finished when a player enters in the NBA via draft.
@BNSF2012
@BNSF2012 5 жыл бұрын
Its not a mess I'm more interested because when player get to old they are thrown away
@bille3742
@bille3742 5 жыл бұрын
Like nothing
@Opinlinz
@Opinlinz 5 жыл бұрын
They aren't thrown away because they received million dollar contracts for years of service. For a game people play for free
@MarkLeel
@MarkLeel 5 жыл бұрын
@@Opinlinz like I told you before you're defending a double standard.
@Opinlinz
@Opinlinz 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkLeel It doesn't matter what you said before if what you said doesn't hold water
@MarkLeel
@MarkLeel 5 жыл бұрын
@@Opinlinz what I said is factual.
@gunsgiftsgalleries7711
@gunsgiftsgalleries7711 5 жыл бұрын
Snacklock is just angry that young black man in the NBA have increased influence over their lives and financial situation.
@williamdillard5060
@williamdillard5060 5 жыл бұрын
Snacklock😂😂😂
@dolo4625
@dolo4625 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@stephaniecaldwell8257
@stephaniecaldwell8257 5 жыл бұрын
.....when people stop watching it because the competitive spirit is taken out because of a bunch of whining, then those young black men can enjoy smaller paychecks due to bad ratings
@RoeBenJudah
@RoeBenJudah 5 жыл бұрын
Snacklock...funny
@sammygulley7204
@sammygulley7204 5 жыл бұрын
Nah I rarely agree with him but on this topic I somewhat do. I like the fact that players are free to play for other teams at their own request and also with other players when they're in free agency. If I'm a business owner this can be a problem.
@Julius29C
@Julius29C 5 жыл бұрын
If a player fulfills his contractual duties,no one should be crying about where that player goes to play.
@darugdawg2453
@darugdawg2453 5 жыл бұрын
tell that to PG
@Stonecoldalston
@Stonecoldalston 5 жыл бұрын
Sultan Mabini He didn't furfil his contract
@coresan9956
@coresan9956 5 жыл бұрын
thats fine but when you force your way out of town to play with your 'boys' on another team while this team is paying you handsomely and in many cases treating you right, then therein lies a problem. If you're a free agent, absolutely go whee you want but forcing a trade I'm not a fan of.
@Julius29C
@Julius29C 5 жыл бұрын
For those saying PG forced his way out,how could he do that when OKC has his rights?Nobody was talking this mess when OKC had Westbrook on the trade block. Look the GM didn't have to listen to any trade demands and George would've been still playing for OKC this fall.
@coresan9956
@coresan9956 5 жыл бұрын
@Tylar Durten triw but what would have happened if OKC stuck to their guns and said "no you're under contract " you dont thi k that would have caused a problem down the road?
@longjump08
@longjump08 5 жыл бұрын
You can't compare the NFL to the NBA because the NFL has 53 players on a roster versus 12-15 in the NBA. Owners are not going to pay 53 guys guaranteed contracts, especially in a sport with such a short lifespan. That's just business...
@bigballerju07
@bigballerju07 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This the one thing everybody forgets. It would be a bad business move.
@jamaljones566
@jamaljones566 5 жыл бұрын
On top of guaranteeing the medic bills of all 53. Ppl don’t think with logic though
@abdevious3854
@abdevious3854 5 жыл бұрын
you'd be right with that logic if every variable is equal. However, its obvious the NFL is a cash cow in American sports so brings in considerably more revenue than the NBA and proportion in which it pays its top performers is not as fair as the NBA.
@brianboyle4589
@brianboyle4589 5 жыл бұрын
If the nfl union was willing to have balls and strike for a year, they would get guaranteed money. They gross 15 billion a year. Football is America's most popular sport. Hope they strike next time the cba is up.
@brianboyle4589
@brianboyle4589 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamaljones566 They should. They are sacrificing their lives to make the Jew owner rich. They need to get their money.
@oskiworld1
@oskiworld1 5 жыл бұрын
Piglock u sound slow, there are owners who aren't try to win chips so how are they doing what's best for the fans and players. But yet a player saying where he wants to play is not doing whats best?!
@kinfolkthedalai
@kinfolkthedalai 5 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahaha "Piglock"
@leel8235
@leel8235 5 жыл бұрын
Whitlock’s negativity is dragging this show down. He’s too stuck in the old times. Overrun by corporate mindset.
@playablue
@playablue 5 жыл бұрын
This is why he was choose . A chosen token from white supremacy as a whole.
@Curtis69213
@Curtis69213 5 жыл бұрын
Then don’t watch the show...u do have a choice
@cjaxxxreactz
@cjaxxxreactz 5 жыл бұрын
He's usually playing devil's advocate....I actually like that he challenges the obvious it makes for entertaining banter. That's what makes this the Best Sports show on TV.
@vivahernando1
@vivahernando1 5 жыл бұрын
Globally NBA destroys American football. After soccer, basketball is the most global game
@petemartinez1375
@petemartinez1375 5 жыл бұрын
Owners agreed to current conditions with the union....now they gonna cry about it?
@chiggsytube
@chiggsytube 5 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Jumbo37279
@Jumbo37279 5 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched it but I know Whitlock is probaby agreeing with the commissioner this commissioner is the best in sports but I do disagree with him on this one
@caldwell2253
@caldwell2253 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@binary
@binary 5 жыл бұрын
You're wrong.
@michaelplowman8674
@michaelplowman8674 5 жыл бұрын
I think what the commissioner is really talking about more so is the fan bases. Paul George a year ago signed a deal to "stay" is OKC. Then he says trade me. I ain't saying he's wrong for it. I think what might help is a contract kicker/penalty in trades. First thing I'd say is full one year NTC on all new contracts unless it's a pre-arranged sign and trade. Team trades a player against the player wishes, player gets a 10% bonus to his remaining contract paid by the trading team with no salary cap hit. If the player has a team option in his contract, it becomes a player option. Player requests a trade, player takes a 10% penalty to his remaining contract. Any option years on a contract if the player requests the trade is automatically invoked. I would also allow teams and players a one person mutual trade with no penalty or bonus and contracts options remaining the same.
@Jumbo37279
@Jumbo37279 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Plowman the only reason I say that wouldn’t work is because players have proven money doesn’t mean much to them. A lot of them have give. Up 50 mill $ just so they can play for another team. At the same time though there isn’t really that many superstars asking for trades. Most just leave in free agency.
@michaelplowman8674
@michaelplowman8674 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jumbo37279 It's a bit of a misnomer to say players leave $50 million on the table when most of that is the extra year a re-signing team can offer. And here's a list of star players who over the past few seasons have demanded trades. Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler, Paul George again, Chris Paul, Kyrie Irving, and we can quibble over if want want to add Westbrook to the list now.
@Cody15241
@Cody15241 5 жыл бұрын
There are a total of 30 NBA teams with 15 players each, equaling 450 players. Why is it that there is always so much negative discussion about young star athletes from the NBA being able to use free-agency to their advantage when time permits, and not Major League Baseball or the National Hockey League? Didn't Bryce Harper sign a $330,000,000 dollar contract this year, and Mike Trout a $430,000,000 contract? Not one single word has been said about their money, or the lucrative contracts for NHL players this year. But NBA players shouldn't be able to negotiate on their own. What crock of garbage!!!
@jingqi9106
@jingqi9106 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, the NBA is not a mess and we may have more parity than we’ve had since the 70s.
@bboywolf
@bboywolf 5 жыл бұрын
False in 2010s it's been the lakers x1 mavs x1 heat x2 spurs x1 warriors x3 Cavs x1 Raptors x1. Cavs and heat were courtesy of lebron james so you can add those up. 5 teams have won. In the 70s 8 different teams won the chip
@younggggggg
@younggggggg 5 жыл бұрын
Wolfwarrior I think he meant the nba has more parity going further after this year (2018-19). Courtesy of there no longer being any super teams left now
@RickyFreshHD
@RickyFreshHD 5 жыл бұрын
NBA players get paid more than NFL players. That’s why the revenues different.
@RickyFreshHD
@RickyFreshHD 5 жыл бұрын
NFL brings in more cash than almost any sport cause they don’t pay the players and that’s facts.
@kirkbyscouser1
@kirkbyscouser1 5 жыл бұрын
You can just tell that Whitlock wishes he was a white man called Ernie who grew up in Beverly Hills.
@dametwalker5977
@dametwalker5977 5 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆🤫
@bosshoggish1
@bosshoggish1 5 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭
@jeromemaida4933
@jeromemaida4933 5 жыл бұрын
Way to bring race into it unnecessarily, loser!
@SouL1Jacker
@SouL1Jacker 5 жыл бұрын
A deeply racist and shameful thing to say. One of those things you would never say to his face.
@douchelyfegaming64
@douchelyfegaming64 5 жыл бұрын
Andy Gravey 😂😂😂
@jamesharris30096
@jamesharris30096 5 жыл бұрын
Why does Whitlock challenge everything Steven Jackson said.
@jusim1000
@jusim1000 5 жыл бұрын
Coz he thinks a verbal back and forth makes him an all star
@jusim1000
@jusim1000 5 жыл бұрын
@BR0D1E Thank u 4 stating the obvious
@gtjohns220
@gtjohns220 5 жыл бұрын
This was the greatest free agency in league history. Why do you think people are even clicking on this link which is paying your bills.
@moneyearl78
@moneyearl78 5 жыл бұрын
Whitlock is just one of those people who thinks because you sign a contract you cant have any say so or push back ever. That Blake Griffin and JJ examples were the perfect argument for the players
@evertonpingue1373
@evertonpingue1373 5 жыл бұрын
And Derozan smh
@RJames-uy2mt
@RJames-uy2mt 5 жыл бұрын
Whitlock just likes to shuck and jive for the owners. NBA free agency is exciting, and has been dominating sports talk for weeks.
@DJ_VBZ
@DJ_VBZ 5 жыл бұрын
Contract Completion Bonus for player if player completes full contract tenure. Contract Non-Completion Penalty for team if player is traded during contract years. Maybe? Not sure, just throwing an idea out there.
@rjtherenegade7743
@rjtherenegade7743 5 жыл бұрын
DJ Shrevie that could work
@jsobers
@jsobers 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea
@zregory
@zregory 5 жыл бұрын
Idk if it'd work. Players are already turning down supermax deals worth 200mil to stay with a team and taking 140mil to go play where they want. Its kinda like your bonus if you stay, penalty if you leave idea is going on now
@chinaexpat1827
@chinaexpat1827 5 жыл бұрын
GREAT IDEA!!!
@vlonelord6585
@vlonelord6585 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea but players are leaving 50+ million on the table to play where they want
@moneyearl78
@moneyearl78 5 жыл бұрын
And Silver can thank the players for actually bringing some parity and competition back.
@verawallace9055
@verawallace9055 5 жыл бұрын
When it's was unbalanced it was ok with him, as much as I like Lebron am happy Leonard didn't joined them
@davidhernandez5673
@davidhernandez5673 5 жыл бұрын
can't the teams and players just agree to sign contracts with no-trade clause? both sides have to agree and then they can't be traded
@ChrissyDaBlck
@ChrissyDaBlck 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, get a no trade clause or add a trade kicker to get more money for being moved
@nlsmason9466
@nlsmason9466 5 жыл бұрын
You have to have been in the league for about 7 or 8 year. Also be on that specific team for 4 from what i hear.
@Ghostkilla773
@Ghostkilla773 5 жыл бұрын
Difference between NBA and NFL are guaranteed contracts, soft vs hard cap, one position domintes
@candylk247
@candylk247 5 жыл бұрын
Those bad guaranteed contracts kills these teams for years
@Ghostkilla773
@Ghostkilla773 5 жыл бұрын
@@candylk247 yea but also big difference is that the NBA is a bandwagon/player league while the NFL they follow teams more.
@candylk247
@candylk247 5 жыл бұрын
True look.at golden state. Bandwagon jumpers
@herod911
@herod911 5 жыл бұрын
@@candylk247 that's true I caint stand any super team
@iliketurtles4463
@iliketurtles4463 5 жыл бұрын
If somebody doesn't like the contents of a contract then they shouldn't sign it. Happy on the day...
@MrJavien
@MrJavien 5 жыл бұрын
Just because u sign a contract doesn’t mean an individual should be owned.
@MrOasis316
@MrOasis316 5 жыл бұрын
MrJavien or that you should just be able to crumple it up and move to la when they come calling
@g5162
@g5162 5 жыл бұрын
How is the player owned. Dont insinuate that they are slaves.
@MrJavien
@MrJavien 5 жыл бұрын
So a company should not be able to do whatever they want with that agreement, ie send me to another company out of state etc...
@HeathenHammer123
@HeathenHammer123 5 жыл бұрын
if you get traded you're still getting paid!
@MarkLeel
@MarkLeel 5 жыл бұрын
Heathen Hammer but the team still broke their commitment to you.
@MR.__G
@MR.__G 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkLeel there's just disloyalty going both ways. So many variables that go in between players & owner. But at the end, everyone is getting paid lol
@MarkLeel
@MarkLeel 5 жыл бұрын
@@MR.__G I hate the double standard. For so many it's okay for a team to explore better options despite a contract but it's not okay for player.
@MR.__G
@MR.__G 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkLeel yeahh!! Will be interesting seeing what happens going forward.
@Stonecoldalston
@Stonecoldalston 5 жыл бұрын
Heathen Hammer who cares that didn't sign up for that when there traded they have to move there whole family who built lives there
@Zackaveli
@Zackaveli 5 жыл бұрын
If they don't want players to request trades, the owners should stop trading players.
@verawallace9055
@verawallace9055 5 жыл бұрын
Makes Sense
@evertonpingue1373
@evertonpingue1373 5 жыл бұрын
Point blank end of story
@Austintwo3
@Austintwo3 5 жыл бұрын
they act like ownere cant just effin say no to trade demands 🤦🏾‍♂️
@iamhe77
@iamhe77 5 жыл бұрын
Then what, the player fakes a lingering injury and sits out or becomes such a bad influence that he destroys team chemistry and morale?
@vlonelord6585
@vlonelord6585 5 жыл бұрын
Facts lmaoo idk why there making this a big thing if someone signs a 5yr deal and wants to be traded in yr 3 you as a owner can tell him no
@vlonelord6585
@vlonelord6585 5 жыл бұрын
@@iamhe77 well you seen what happen to Kawhi and Kyrie both were actually hurt in Kyrie case the same injury he was threatening Cavs with end up keeping him out the playoffs
@godpigeon2784
@godpigeon2784 5 жыл бұрын
Why is Jason Whitlock always on the wrong side of every argument
@joshrodriguez4154
@joshrodriguez4154 5 жыл бұрын
Whitlock is real !
@Ghostkilla773
@Ghostkilla773 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on your Perspective if hes wrong
@markmittens
@markmittens 5 жыл бұрын
He's not on the wrong side of the argument he's on the right side. I think most people honestly are 2 dimensional thinkers they think being traded is slavery.
@dbrageagainst2
@dbrageagainst2 5 жыл бұрын
He’s a simp lol
@TheACCofficial
@TheACCofficial 5 жыл бұрын
It’s how he stays relevant, he intentionally became “the Black guy that works on Fox News”. There’s a lane for it.
@siddhi9075
@siddhi9075 5 жыл бұрын
R U kidding me !!!? Is that Even a Discussion !!!? . Of course Players have The right To decide Their destination . It is Called " Free Will " .
@bond-yieldbond007
@bond-yieldbond007 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@bebebebe5491
@bebebebe5491 5 жыл бұрын
Curry was previously paid pittance money and look what he has done for the GSW franchise. He is the best example how players should behave or act when a franchise rewards them with a big contract.
@RobertA-sl5fh
@RobertA-sl5fh 5 жыл бұрын
Need to get rid of about 8 teams and shorten up the season a lil bit so the competition can be stronger
@ChrissyDaBlck
@ChrissyDaBlck 5 жыл бұрын
And lose all that money? No way the league would do that
@manimavuso
@manimavuso 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Silver forgets that he is a commissioner and not a PR manager. Stop going with the popular opinion and doing your job sir
@trendsports3136
@trendsports3136 5 жыл бұрын
Yea but the NFL is greedy with their money that stuff goes to the owners , where's the money for the superstars? Oh noone knows
@bigballer6198
@bigballer6198 5 жыл бұрын
And the NBA isn't?
@alltheworldsastage8597
@alltheworldsastage8597 5 жыл бұрын
Steven Jackson is talking about Chandler Parsons I think he just got traded to the Hawks 😂😂😂
@Sammy-kx4lh
@Sammy-kx4lh 5 жыл бұрын
Adam silver didn’t have a problem when KD joined to Warriors but he has a problem with the talent being spread out gtfoh and resign
@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.
@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON. 5 жыл бұрын
Facts
@BruvahSulaiman
@BruvahSulaiman 5 жыл бұрын
He started having a problem with KD moving to GS. He would not have a problem anymore if KD or Kawhi would've joined LeBron but because they didn't it's a problem.
@markmittens
@markmittens 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone pays attention anymore, KD was a FREE AGENT PG was not, Anthony Davis was not. That's the problem!!!!!!
@LoveMusicVideoArt
@LoveMusicVideoArt 5 жыл бұрын
This don’t make sense cuz you’re mixing FA with trade demands WHILE under contract 🤓
@Thegoldenchild415
@Thegoldenchild415 5 жыл бұрын
KD was a free agent when he joined the Warriors. He did not go to his team and demand a trade. It's not even comparable.
@banyarydym
@banyarydym 5 жыл бұрын
NBA ratings ought to go back up this next season with LeBron back in play and also Zion making his debut. Can't wait too for the match-up between Lakers vs Clippers.
@verawallace9055
@verawallace9055 5 жыл бұрын
People always said this and that about bron, but I know whenever time he is no longer playing he will be missed, even Skip said he missed him, I didn't know that was possible ,Lol
@Hova-dw5sw
@Hova-dw5sw 5 жыл бұрын
Bron got wind of those financial books and real money circulating and started schooling everyone. I'm all for it. PG did Russ dirty though👀..."Unfinished Business"....
@N.a.j.i.
@N.a.j.i. 5 жыл бұрын
AGREED..and what u NOT gonna tell me(As an owner of a team NOT of me) is where I'm gonna go to "wrk". You get out there and play then. Those days of dancing when they tell the players to 'dance' are over.
@verawallace9055
@verawallace9055 5 жыл бұрын
I like Westbrook, he plays hard, wish him the best, don't like what am hearing
@Hobbes250
@Hobbes250 5 жыл бұрын
Then don't have players as independent contractors.
@NewfutureIT
@NewfutureIT 5 жыл бұрын
NFL is only watched my Americans (mostly) NBA is followed by most of the world, if its not past NFL yet,, dont worry, sit back have a coke and a smile and it will happen
@sirmi9868
@sirmi9868 5 жыл бұрын
It will never happen dude at this rate
@Stonecoldalston
@Stonecoldalston 5 жыл бұрын
Andre Johnson I'm sure that was a US poll and not a worldwide Pole and stop that's why NBA ratings is higher then baseball's right
@TheHuxleyAgnostic
@TheHuxleyAgnostic 5 жыл бұрын
@Andre Johnson The op's point was global popularity, and you pointed to national popularity. Basketball is a global sport. There are zero American style "football" teams in the Olympics. The US and Canada are about the only two countries in the world that play it. Everywhere else just plays rugby. So, just in terms of the sport they're playing, the NFL is at an extreme global disadvantage. Meanwhile, in China, a billion and a half population market ... www.cnbc.com/2018/11/20/the-nba-is-chinas-most-popular-sports-league-heres-how-it-happened.html
@sportsreport989
@sportsreport989 5 жыл бұрын
Players have too much control. They get paid for a service. The second they dont live up to it, on or off the floor. The people paying them are gonna look to move u and get the value they paid out back. Do your job. Trades are part of it
@jonathonodum6007
@jonathonodum6007 5 жыл бұрын
A rule requiring players to forfeit a percentage of the salary remaining in their contract as well as from any new contracts in a 4-year time period after should be introduced. It would work.
@ChrissyDaBlck
@ChrissyDaBlck 5 жыл бұрын
A percentage of the current contract isn't a bad idea but idk about for the new ones... Maybe about a 1-2 year time frame for the new ones if they would do that
@jonathonodum6007
@jonathonodum6007 5 жыл бұрын
chrissydablacc The maximum number of years in any new contract on a new team is 4-years, that was the reasoning. Whatever the percentage and duration would be it would have to be sufficient enough to stop almost all trade demands.
@dozhadeville444
@dozhadeville444 5 жыл бұрын
How is it a MESS..?? *Its Evolution, everything Evolves.* From Big-Man Paint Dominance to Threes from the HalfCourt line!
@arashkordi7771
@arashkordi7771 5 жыл бұрын
Jim jackson played for abour 248 nba teams in his career. Love how he says they were basically stuck "back in da days".... LOL!!!
@Citiz3nX
@Citiz3nX 5 жыл бұрын
Players are independent contractors. They go where their services are required. And if we’re being real some of these guys (steph, lebron, KD, etc.) don’t even get what they’re worth given the revenue they generate so I’m not tryna hear all of these contrived narratives attempting to swing the momentum back to the favor of the owners.
@leroydirks5751
@leroydirks5751 5 жыл бұрын
About to have a league losing teams instead of expanding. Not many will be able to compete long term when players are able to choose LA and NY for their outside ventures. Not sure of a good solution but this won't be good in 5-10 yrs.
@kevinkirk6276
@kevinkirk6276 5 жыл бұрын
The NBA is the company. Teams are like branches within the company. Players still get their money even if they’re traded.
@bcl143
@bcl143 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect....a step further, the NBA franchisees are like dealer network to car manufacturer i.e the NBA...The NBA makes money irrespective of which dealer sells the car...
@Stonecoldalston
@Stonecoldalston 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Kirk so what that dont mean they want to get traded when they go to a new team they have to move there whole family who built lives there and change there whole routine
@kevinkirk6276
@kevinkirk6276 5 жыл бұрын
People get relocated in their jobs all the time. If they don’t like it then don’t be in the NBA. The difference is they get compensated very well to put up with it versus a regular person who relies on that check and can’t just leave their job.
@Stonecoldalston
@Stonecoldalston 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Kirk and People leave jobs all the time same goes for the owners i have no problem with players being traded but were not about to be okay with a double standard its cool for owners to trade players but then get mad at a player for leaving a team especially as a Free agent idc what team they go to whether Its KD going to Goldenstate type situation or a Khawi Situation players played out there contracts and earned that right
@kevinkirk6276
@kevinkirk6276 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody is mad at players who played out their contracts. Everything you just said is dumb. No one is complaining about that especially not me. Fulfill your contract and do whatever you want to do
@yourRockinwithth
@yourRockinwithth 5 жыл бұрын
They should make it so a player has to stay with that team for half the contract. ..
@supervilliansvworld2010
@supervilliansvworld2010 5 жыл бұрын
Whitlock is incorrect on this. The Owners own the facility and the brand. The players are contractors, some more independent than others but they all supply a service. The players are tradesmen in owners facilities. Honestly the nfl should apply this rule.
@Independent365
@Independent365 5 жыл бұрын
Whitlock has a point. Fans will get annoyed when they get a star player and 2 years later he dips to team up to another superstar team when they are still under contract. No sense of stability
@soonerintexas.3845
@soonerintexas.3845 5 жыл бұрын
Right! Might as well cut the league down to 10-14 teams... and there would still be some irrelevant teams...
@ki196
@ki196 5 жыл бұрын
"This ain't FOX". Owned!
@RecencyBiasRadio
@RecencyBiasRadio 5 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how I'm starting to agree with Whitlock more & more. What is happening to me?
@ibraheemrao8434
@ibraheemrao8434 5 жыл бұрын
This is helping THE NBA because it puts their front office on notice
@thehideoutbarandgril
@thehideoutbarandgril 5 жыл бұрын
Alright Whitlock we see right through you...it’s ok tho.
@joshuahagad9594
@joshuahagad9594 5 жыл бұрын
The NBA is better back then... when teams pick their players, not players picking their teams and teammates... but still NBA is the Best!
@kennethopoku4221
@kennethopoku4221 5 жыл бұрын
Joshua Hagad because owners were better back then
@BoxOfOranges84
@BoxOfOranges84 5 жыл бұрын
An off-season like this every 4-10 years is manageable, but if players are asking for trades every January/June, everything becomes very unstable and confusing for fans. It works in soccer because fans are primarily loyal to teams. NBA fans are primarily loyal to players and seeing your favorite players move every 1-2 years will start to seem very cartoonish after a while
@dandrefalcon3963
@dandrefalcon3963 5 жыл бұрын
I’m I the only one that disagrees with Jason, on the poll even before he speaks?!?🤷🏿‍♂️
@DELTABOY04
@DELTABOY04 5 жыл бұрын
players having to much control and teaming up is terrible especially for small market teams
@ralphthompson355
@ralphthompson355 5 жыл бұрын
Well, the billionaire owner can sell their team if they don't like it! Trust me, another one will line up to buy it!
@stevebell5970
@stevebell5970 5 жыл бұрын
About time Players get to pick where they fit best 🏀🏀🏀 especially Veterans 💯💯💯
@mattlarocca16
@mattlarocca16 5 жыл бұрын
The league is waaaaaaaaaaay more balanced this next season than its been in 4 years. CANT WAIT!
@Talus31
@Talus31 5 жыл бұрын
Indiana Pacers have been a model franchise for 30 years and have been in contention for a title each decade. Yet they can't even get a meeting with NBA all stars. That's an issue that probably can't be fixed, but give the team more power to retain players they acquired would help.
@RBZ-1
@RBZ-1 5 жыл бұрын
then cut the team's ability to send players where ever & when ever they up and decide to.
@johndavis8457
@johndavis8457 5 жыл бұрын
As a Dallas fan I feel your pain. But these players leaving 10 of millions of guarantee dollars is crazy! There is not much more that can be done!
@fcdl61
@fcdl61 5 жыл бұрын
I can relate as a Spurs fan. Despite having an all time great coach, SA is never considered on the radar for top free agents minus LaMarcus Aldridge. We had to get lucky in the draft lottery and build our team from scratch.
@derekblankenship8970
@derekblankenship8970 5 жыл бұрын
This might be the best most exciting FA of all time wtf are they talking about?
@ryantruax4635
@ryantruax4635 5 жыл бұрын
Solution: Write up more thorough contracts that both parties can agree on. If it's written into the contract that said player is guaranteed X amount of dollars, then it should also be written into the contract that said player is guaranteed to spend X amount of years at said orginization. No re-negs from either party.
@robertphoenixastroplus8182
@robertphoenixastroplus8182 5 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of no trades and the only way players can move is through true free agency or like in soccer, when a club buys another players contract.
@Romamb
@Romamb 5 жыл бұрын
Football is a wreck. You don't want the NBA to follow the road football has went down. I cant provide an answer but following football is not it!
@Romamb
@Romamb 5 жыл бұрын
No trades....needs thought 🤔
@kennethscott621
@kennethscott621 5 жыл бұрын
I love that idea
@rasheeddavis2938
@rasheeddavis2938 5 жыл бұрын
Tell me a corporation where ur not allowed to decide where u work if ur the best at ur job??
@SpinnTraxxMusic
@SpinnTraxxMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Player movement is not an issue but it's when players decide to team up and create super teams. That's not good for the sport from a fan perspective.
@P4p775
@P4p775 5 жыл бұрын
Watch the NBA this upcoming season. Kawhi ended the superteams
@robertphoenixastroplus8182
@robertphoenixastroplus8182 5 жыл бұрын
Just have'em choose up sides every season.
@emceeace6851
@emceeace6851 5 жыл бұрын
They make it seem like you should never leave nor have the option but no career accept the Military says you can not quit or seek locale change. Plus all these players been leaving after 7+ years , that’s more than enough to prove what you can offer me in the future or I’m out.
@producerfav1974
@producerfav1974 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched yet but I'm 100% sure that Whitlock answer is pro owners.
@JayloveTheFoodguy
@JayloveTheFoodguy 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Whitlock sounds crazy this was thing for the NBA..
@bryanalmestica5208
@bryanalmestica5208 5 жыл бұрын
I’m all for player power as we all fight for our rights in the workplace but why do we expect the owners to just hand it over to the players? None of us would let the employees tell us how to run our own business so why should they? Fair pay for their services is one thing, but control and power over the industry that they WORK FOR is completely different🤷🏽‍♂️
@kam3410
@kam3410 5 жыл бұрын
The NBA doesn't have a contract with the player the team does and the team can trade players anytime they want and there is nothing requiring them to trade you. The only requirement a player has is the salary and if.....IF, they have a no trade clause. The rest is in the hands of the owner.
@blackbolt3423
@blackbolt3423 5 жыл бұрын
Its a thin line , but at the end of the day the Nba won't have a league that fans watch if this kind of thing continues You cant continue to have players jumping ship before they fulfill their contactual obligation.
@memorymachingambi2230
@memorymachingambi2230 5 жыл бұрын
Anjohn Davis: How about when teams don’t fulfill their contractual obligations? The comparison between teams trading players mid-contract versus players demanding trades mid-contract isn’t even close! There’s only a handful of players with that kind of profile - literally a handful YET every team has the ability to trade everyone on their roster anytime (except a few players with trade veto power). As for Free Agents, well they are exactly that; FAs!!!
@MrAjama9
@MrAjama9 5 жыл бұрын
Something about Whitlock that loves owners...masters too
@grayhound3re
@grayhound3re 5 жыл бұрын
THE PLAYERS WORK FOR THE TEAM. Enough of this bs.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 5 жыл бұрын
I bet Toronto fans are enjoying this
@ksanchez8095
@ksanchez8095 5 жыл бұрын
5:09 Oh and guess what else? if the contract doesn't SPECIFICALLY says that you have a no trade clause, then you can be traded. It literally IS written in the CBA. So yeah, keep victimizing the people earning MILLIONS to put a ball through a basket.
@rorisnorris
@rorisnorris 5 жыл бұрын
The worst is the NFL. Look at the revenue and the players do not get compensated even close to their worth.
@tonyrame7548
@tonyrame7548 5 жыл бұрын
53 man rosters has something to do with that. Only the QBs get paid since they are the most valuable
@saucygyro
@saucygyro 5 жыл бұрын
In Europe, soccer players are free to sign and play wherever they are wanted and no one forces them to sign anything. If you are good enough, they will do what it takes to sign you.
@yungsimba7425
@yungsimba7425 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever situations like this come up I always think about how the Clippers did Blake and how f'ed up that was. Like Stakk said it's all about power and control and I'm with the players on that. Shout out to Kawhi for that power move he pulled, and for the balance it brought back to the league.
@froglifechannel
@froglifechannel 5 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't that players get to leave when their contract is up. The problem is that they're banding together to form superteams. Even that, in and of itself, is not terrible, if it occurred more randomly. The problem over the long term is players forming superteams in a handful of markets: NY, LA, Miami, Houston. Now, from the fan perspective, the rest of the league, some 25 or so teams have become a development league for the handful of markets that will get to have these superteams. Hasn't hurt the league yet. But it could in the long run as fans in the other 25 markets tune out.
@eatemup88
@eatemup88 5 жыл бұрын
The only reason this a problem is because of the one and done rule. The kids coming out college are not ready for NBA. And it taking at least 4 or 5 year for those players to develop. And if they stay around that long
@Talus31
@Talus31 5 жыл бұрын
Jax how are small market teams going to get good players if they don't give a contract to up coming players. The NBA stars don't even return their calls.
@P4p775
@P4p775 5 жыл бұрын
Jay not only that manage well
@Iamjustavibe
@Iamjustavibe 5 жыл бұрын
Players didn't go to Spurs or Golden State so they drafted well and built dynasties
@The_Loathsome
@The_Loathsome 5 жыл бұрын
Signing the contract means your signing up for the possibility of being traded. That’s why they have no-trade clauses.
@g5162
@g5162 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I dont understand the argument
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 5 жыл бұрын
The real issue is that coaches have little influence anymore, and that star players+agents can GM-gineer a team to a greater extent. The resulting dynamic is now that the emotional demands of players can supersede any and all prerogatives of coaching. Coaches are now little more than the front-line analyst suggestion-maker/supervisor ready to get the boot after a year or so.
@KingTv312
@KingTv312 5 жыл бұрын
So nfl generate double the money the nba make but nba players make way more & it’s guarantee money lol
@slayer45637
@slayer45637 5 жыл бұрын
NFL makes more money and has triple amount of players as the NBA. Plus, if NFL gave out fully guaranteed contracts to everyone they would go broke.
@blackanimelover18
@blackanimelover18 5 жыл бұрын
Thats becauses theres way more NFL players. If the rosters were the same, NFL players would be signing $500 million dollar contracts.
@ignanttv3006
@ignanttv3006 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Victor ... NBA 82 games, 400 players... NFL 16 games, 2000 players....
@saidufofanah2210
@saidufofanah2210 5 жыл бұрын
slayer45637 who wouldn’t rather play in the nba, qbs are the only ones making what their worth. In basketball an ok player can make more than a hof wide receiver over career lifetime and avoid cte
@KingTv312
@KingTv312 5 жыл бұрын
NizzyNizerson you sound like you play football suffering from concussions
@patd4ddy500
@patd4ddy500 5 жыл бұрын
A contract is a contract though. If you fulfill it you can go where you want. But mid contract you can’t just request to leave
@damienprince1077
@damienprince1077 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever makes the league more competitive. The past few years have not been competitive.
@WorldwideJamal
@WorldwideJamal 5 жыл бұрын
Im surprised the players have not decided to just start their own league.
@smittyjje
@smittyjje 5 жыл бұрын
I think you should have to stay at the team you sign with for a certain percentage of the contract. Both the team and player are obligated to do this
@Noc4ball
@Noc4ball 5 жыл бұрын
Who can blame the players? Who wants to play for a small market or live in those cities?
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